Chapter 4 Hints in Nightfall Manual?

I also dont think they would ever go back in time for certain ingame reasons - plus they already have issues with the gap between Nightfall and the first two chapters. I was just suggesting if they ever did try to go back in time with the story i am guessing it would be around the time of the bloodstones being forged.

I wonder what lies west of the Magumma Jungle

And i think the idea of a profession that would allow you to become a animal like a wolf would be excellent class. Maybe it could expand into greater lore with Melandru (who appears to be the only god who does not seem to do much).

Maybe actually going into the Mursaat's homeland?

We hear that the homeland is there, shrouded by some mysterious force. So a storyline taking us there actually is not be a bad idea.

As to where its set, I would love a Norse theme.

Thing is Norse, was pretty much done with the Shiverpeaks type areas. And Norse Mythology is very much based around its gods, and its ideals of life/afterlife and so on, but with the five gods already set up in Guild Wars, It would be very difficult to set it all up.

Saying that. If Anet could pull it off nicely, I would enjoy it. I liked the Shiverpeaks a lot. (Not as much as Maguuma though! )

Druid : I'd love the ability to take the form of certain animals, Obviously the forms would have to be either Elite skills or only allow one skill to turn you into the other forms at a time.

Personally I'd be a Moa. All the time.

If we did i am guessing we would not be welcome since we helped destroy most if not all of their race. Also a chapter featured in the Mursaats homeland would mean new players would start out as the actual Mursaat race (since humans living in a Mursaat led land does not sound right)

Some ideas for a Norse them game:

It would not have to be all snow/mountains. Starter Island could be like the Brittish isles, with rolling hills and temprate climate. One area could be dense forrest, possibly evergreen forrest. Another could be mountains of course. And frozen tundra.

Some points from Norse Mythology that would be fun to play with include thier legends of giants (cant remember the races name) that fought wars with the gods. There is also the Banshee legends and legends of the Fay, or Fairy people, that were prevelant in far northern Europe.

I was thinking more in terms of just visiting his homeland, it could be a part of the whole campaign.

Figure this...Prophecies (Europe), Factions (Asian), and Nightfall (African)...which can only mean...AUSTRALLIA! A Net takes WOW's idea of riding animals and we get to ride kangaroos.

Chapter 4 takes place in a public bathroom in Mexico City. Cuccarachas and crackheads fight for the prime handicap stall and ou have to muscle your way in between the conflict to flush the clogged toilet of destiny. May I introduce Guildwars: Blightstall!

I'm sorry but an Australian Guild Wars would be exactly the same as Nightfall.

Australia has massive open plains..a forest..and well not exactly a Desolation, But there is a giant red rock.

South American ftw. Minus the Drug problems.

i still bet on a greek/roman theme

I'm betting on an american indian and gypsie style, in the factions artbook theres one page with indian esque style chars also carrying spears though and other page is gypsie looking characters. id love to have a char running around with a feathered headset ;p

It will be set in the future, with lots of robots and AI. There will be a plague of player characters all with the number "8" branded on their foreheads for some inexplicable reason ("4" in the starter areas). They often stand around silently in the outposts, apparently unwilling to talk. Except the traders who only know "WTS!"

Eventually Terminators will turn up and play the game for you, muttering about how everybody else sucks (end sarcasm)

Sure those weren't Mayan/Inca's ?

I am still sticking by my thoughts that it has SOMETHING to do with Lord Odran. I still think that something happened after he got destroyed by the spirits of the Rifts. If there is a whole undead thing, I'm thinking he might have somehow got ressurected and is leading an army. Some are speculating North of Tyria as the setting. If that is the case, then I think you will see the city of Drascir. If I remember my lore correctly, after the Exodus of the Gods, the Gods then went to dwill in the rift. I think after everything with Abaddon, he ressurected Lord Odran to somehow close the rift so that he could gain power over the others (since he was brilliant enough to pass through as a mortal the first time). It's just my thought. It will be interesting to see what comes up.

We've already seen it, where they found the Stormcaller in Prophecies..That was the Academy of Drascir, the old capital city. The sister to Nolani Academy

that was the academy not the city

kinda makes sense that the academy is near or in the city don't you think? Or you've seen the Paris Univercity on Antartica?

no i dont think that paris univercity is in antarctica but who knows frenche guys are crazy(no offence) but tell me if i am not wrong in beta of guildwars there was a town with the name drascir(i may be wrong)that was totelly different than the academy and also there is no nolani city near nolani academy and drascir and drascir academy are still in the same land(see ascalon)

i say it will be Duild Wars: Mother Russia

*cought*Guildwars Zehlon thread*cough*

If you have even been to Mexico.. which i dought it by your message, then you would know that their bathrooms are hell of a lot cleaner then the bathrooms here in America...

Spirit: "The dynasties still live in my deams. There is another true blood heir....."
what dynasties? ascalon and orr blood lines are still alive?

There doesnt Necessarily have to be a Nolani City/Town, Just because Drascir had one. It is labelled as the Sister Academy, not sister city.

Furthermore, there are some ruins outside the Nolani Academy outpost, so it could be that those ruins are what remains of a town or city (quite possibly one of those towns that pretty much only exists in order to provide services to the students and staff).

The ruins there are the ruins of Nolani, It says so in the Quest: Cities of Ascalon. Keyword there being Cities. It was also founded long before the great wall was built, hence why is was north of the wall and why it was presumably destroyed by the char, much like Drascir.

My thoughts on the Ch4-6.

First make me character care. For example, from an RP stand point I had no reason to goto Cantha. "My dumb monk friend wants to go to Cantha. I should stay here and save my own peoples butts, but I'm going because I'm the selfless hero."

Ch4 should give characters from all the continents a reason to go to help out. For example, Gwen could reappear with some tie back to phrop. For factions to Luxons have discovered a new trade route(i.e a sea to the south) so Luxon players need to protect it while kurick players are trying to prevent the trade. Elonian could have something going on with the cosairs or something.

Ch4 should be norse themed. Ch5 should introduce an underwater area(not Orr). Ch6 should involve the new bad guy screwing with the time line so the players have to go back to the start of the guild wars to fix it.

For Chapter four there should be a certain areas only accessible by owning a previous campaign. Tryia should have an area off the Magumma Jungle, Cantha should have an area south of the Jade Sea, and Elona this chain of Islands were the corsairs hide.

I like the durid class. But we don't need a another version of the A or D. I'd rather see more races. Char, Tengu, Centaur, maybe dwarf. However racial attributes would seriously screw with the meta game. Maybe a pirates class too(see below).

Make the Norse theme and include an area small islands and give us boats. Giving us a PvP area where we can have ship battles or letting us act as pirates would be nice.

I guess that's all for now.

Ok this thread opens up with people stating that Gaile said that there were some hints in the manual as to what C4 could be about. So on that notion, one of the first clues we are given is the lands to the north. Which in my opinion this means north of Tyria. Why do I say this ? Well, those Ascension Pilgrims tell you that they see a light to the north and they think it is Turai Ossa calling them,then mentions about the Mists not being too far as we once led to believe. Now what Hero do we have that is from the Mists ? Razah Razah is my speculation is a shapeshifter just the the Djinn are, so infact Razah might be a Djinn. Ofcourse this is all speculation. If you go to the NF manual you will read that Djinn and Razah sound almost alike in being able to change forms. So who knows, perhaps we will go to the lands of the Mists where they have demons, ghosts ect but not all creatues are demonic there according to the NF manual I downloaded from the gw site. My guess we will be seeing more Djinn.

Lord Odran a new/old villian ? Check out the links below which add something interesting here.

http://eu.guildwars.com/gameplay/tyr..._odrans_folly/
http://eu.guildwars.com/gameplay/tyria/the_rift/

Bahltek NPC - I know he is not in the NF manual which i am trying mostly to base this on because the thread is suggesting hints within the manual but really check this link out, its explains very little on hints but what it does mention and he does emphasize about a spirit ship aka ghost ship and water.
So I am thinking islands surrounded by water which leads me to speculate that the Corsairs have a role because they travel the seas where no Istani can follow them and if you read the NF manual about the Corsairs, you will have a better idea of what I am trying to say.
So bascially I am just going to speculate that we will be seeing Lord Odran as our villian who is trying to get back to mortal form similar to Shiro to rule the world Also I am not totally sure this has ever been mentioned but when we killed Shiro you speak to the Oracle who gives you an Amulet of the Mists ! How ironic is that ??? Amulet of the Mists which brings up the theory about The Rift which leads us to Lord Odran What do we find in the Rift, spirits,demons and ancient creatures
So this is all just speculation on my part and all I did was just read alot on the forums and did some small research on my own. If anyone else had some more info or can correct me on some things by all means do so. I for one am no major loremaster by any means but hey it is sure cool learning about it

Should be North, should be cold with alot of snow and pines ;] thats how i feel.
And i dont mind to kick some more Charr ass

if the next campaign is north of the great wall, it better include Drascir, and thus the Tombs of Drascir as well.

That would be really really sweet

I stick with my name, the land (not the game name) of gw4 is Zehlon

and alot of undead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and charr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and dragons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your theory doesn't even make any sense...get over it lol.

Plus, not only are you the only person to suggest it, your the only person to actually believe its real...which its not....

On a side note...I'm guessing the land of Mursaat is our best guess at the moment, I just wish Anet would realise some info!

omg you crushed my dreams!!!!what have I done to you

Its a joke, I say it in every forum about chapt 4, wooo!!!, who really cares anymore? you see 14 viewers in here every day lol, max 20 (rare) chapt 4 is too close, no more threads on it should be made.

Why does most people want Charr, Charr isn't even listed in the nightfall manual that was supposed to give us some hints. If you want Charr then go to piken square and farm Charr Mursaat sounds alot better but can we have some atleast ideas on why you think so ? Yeah Anet needs to give us
something to nibble on while we wait, all this Bahltek talk, those spirits and tormented souls babbling stuff in mysteries got me kinda wondering whats up .

Yeah Anet needs to give us something to nibble on here, its been 4 months now. Supposedly every 6 months we get a new chapter but for some reason Anet is being hush hush on this one for some odd reason and I heard speculation we wont see C4 until after the summer but even Gaile posted there has been no official announcements so guess we all gotta keep waiting.
If some are you gonna insist on Charr then I wanna see some theories as to why you think so not just toss it in the thread with no idea behind it

ì dont think there will be mursaat, we need to infuse armor again etc? =/

if we see mursaat in ch4 we will see them as our allies i guess

I've said this many times, I say it's going to be the northern regions (preferably mountainous and snowy) that are on the other side of those greyish-green mountains that border the northern edge of Tyria.

Someone earlier said there should be a norse theme. I would LOVE that. I want GW to stay with a medieval theme, as many MMORPGs have done it (EverQuest I believe). Norse is quite similar and I would love it. Other things like an Asian theme, I think, are totally irrelevant to the fantasy/DnD/medieval theme.

Nah, I lived in Mexico, then moved to USA. I lived in tourist towns, and they were horrible. America's are much better.

I bet it is Down near Fire Island! with all the titans etc.. now that would be some pwnage

^Didn't they already do that 2 chapters ago? :P