Petition: Insignias available for Tyrian/Canthan armor

Karmaniac

Karmaniac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Lookie lookie! We all love petitions! Devs love petitions! Lets have a petition then!

As you probably all or at least most know Tyrian/Canthan armor cannot currently hold insignias. Although I have my own complaints about the system I think it would be a good idea to add an end-game NPC with the ability to strip all modifiers from Tyrian or Canthan armor. After which you could apply insignias to that armor as if it was normal NF armor.
Considering that quite a few people probably have this armor they like and have paid good money (+runes and dye) for but think the mods have become obsolete (knights and sentinel for example) and would like to change them without having to buy a completely new set. I myself would happily pay 1-5k for that kind of service. I don't see it affecting gameplay in any way so I don't think its unreasonable to ask it implemented.

/agree to agree. All feedback will be appreciated. Thank you.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmaniac
Lookie lookie! We all love petitions! Devs love petitions! Lets have a petition then!

As you probably all or at least most know Tyrian/Canthan armor cannot currently hold insignias. Although I have my own complaints about the system I think it would be a good idea to add an end-game NPC with the ability to strip all modifiers from Tyrian or Canthan armor. After which you could apply insignias to that armor as if it was normal NF armor.
Considering that quite a few people probably have this armor they like and have paid good money (+runes and dye) for but think the mods have become obsolete (knights and sentinel for example) and would like to change them without having to buy a completely new set. I myself would happily pay 1-5k for that kind of service. I don't see it affecting gameplay in any way so I don't think its unreasonable to ask it implemented.

/agree to agree. All feedback will be appreciated. Thank you.
You do realise this will probably be added anyway!

They updated the tyrian armor when factions was released, so there is no reason they wont get around to updating tyrian and canthan armor to fit in with Elonian gear.

Its only been about a month, give them a chance.

Karmaniac

Karmaniac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
You do realise this will probably be added anyway!

They updated the tyrian armor when factions was released, so there is no reason they wont get around to updating tyrian and canthan armor to fit in with Elonian gear.

Its only been about a month, give them a chance.
But I just absolutely 100% positively LOVE petitions! Anyways I haven't heard anything about whether or not Anet will be adding the option. Therefore little puppy-eyed begging can't hurt, right? Its a safe bet. We have nothing to lose here.

omcginty44

omcginty44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Xen of Onslaught

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i need to be able to have insignias in my fissure armor 'cause i of course can't afford another set

/signed

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

There was another post on this, but I'll...

/signed

...this one too. Please, please, please, please make this happen!

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

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I think it will never happen.
Factions came out and introduced the ability to buy any armor look for any stats you want.
This feature was never added to the Tyrian armor. If you want warrior +energy and have only ch1 then you are stuck wiht being naked using the glads armor.

I think they should keep it the way it is.
Each chapter will introduce a new way to craft armor/weapon to keep things exciting.

/not signed.

Tobias Feelgood

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

UK

Sandiz Druids

Me/N

I agree with the fact that its only a matter of time before its rolled out, remember that like factions when that was released there where things that needed ironing out then too.

Nightfall has brought many changes, some good, some brilliant, some bad I am sure for the most it will work out great

/not signed YET

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by omcginty44
i need to be able to have insignias in my fissure armor 'cause i of course can't afford another set

/signed
I'll sign for Fissure Armour but not the others as they're obviously not in the same league when it comes to cost as stated above, I also think there should be a seperate NPC for Insignias rather than the Rune Trader as it's confusing a lot of people with Prop/Factions only atm.

Question: Anyone crafted FoW for any profession (other than Para or Derv as I'm guessing you can insignia those types) since Nightfall has been live and been able to put insignias on at all?, as if so then those of us with existing FoW should really have the option available to us should we wish to change.

morimoto

morimoto

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Ft. Worth TX

House of Soot?!

Mo/W

i dont think it is right to modify older chapters of guildwars to be more like the current chapter. insignias and heroes should stay in elona. otherwise why should i buy new chapters when i know the devs will eventually implement the changes.

BTW i an not happy about implementing material storage for tyria characters. in my opinion, if you want these types of upgrades then you need to buy the new chapters and move your toons through them like the rest of us.

also, tyria and cantha have their own personalities and introducing these new elements will ruin that.

/not signed

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Actually, I like the idea of having an NPC to do it. Put it in Kamadan and you keep the people who don't own ch3 from having access to it, but those that do own it, can upgrade their armor as it suits them. My primary character is a ranger and I wear the druids armor, but I much prefer the 15k drakescale and would love to be able to give it druid stats, I just don't like how the NF druids armor looks, personal preference I know, but my preference in how an armor looks should mean I'm screwed as far as being able to have inscriptions on an armor set, I do own all 3 chapters and have them all linked together, let me upgrade my drakescale.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by morimoto
otherwise why should i buy new chapters when i know the devs will eventually implement the changes.
For someone new to Guild Wars, the question would be:

"Why should I buy the old chapters when I know that the devs have left them woefully inferior to the new chapter?"

With inscriptions, there is a valid argument against pushing that change back to Tyria and Cantha (see the 50+ page thread for a discussion of that).

However, with insignia, there is absolutely no reason that armors shouldn't have the same functionality in every chapter.

Viriato

Viriato

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Os Cremento

N/Mo

/signed with gusto

Badger Muffin

Badger Muffin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Underworld Refugees

N/Me

/signed

dont want 2 buy my necro fow again

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

R/

/signed for people with Nightfall, but /unsigned for those without Nightfall...

I believe that when people bought Nightfall, they bought this option for armor as well. Therefore, if you have, say, 15k Luxon for example, you should be able to change the Insignia of the armor at the end of the game of Nightfall.

However, if you don't have Nightfall, then I believe it wouldn't be fair for them to have the option of this.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

I would rather see Anet working forwards, not looking back.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by omcginty44
i need to be able to have insignias in my fissure armor 'cause i of course can't afford another set

/signed
/signed

for the above reason

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

/signed. The best option, imo, is to have some sort of NPC in Elona that can convert old armor to NF-style armor...

That way, you'd still need NF.

Chaco Nautzi

Chaco Nautzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Dont Pwn Us Again [PLZ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
I think it will never happen.
Factions came out and introduced the ability to buy any armor look for any stats you want.
This feature was never added to the Tyrian armor. If you want warrior +energy and have only ch1 then you are stuck wiht being naked using the glads armor.

I think they should keep it the way it is.
Each chapter will introduce a new way to craft armor/weapon to keep things exciting.

/not signed.
Honestly I dont axiously wait for the new campaign only for the excitement of a new way to craft my armor :3

/signed(and glads is kick ass armor >.>)

Tarus From Taros

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
/signed. The best option, imo, is to have some sort of NPC in Elona that can convert old armor to NF-style armor...
That way, you'd still need NF.
/Signed.

I understand the reasoning behind leaving it as a NF only addition. However I do believe it would be a nice gesture for those people who havn't purchased NF yet. So kind of on the fence about that.

Regardless, I feel this should definitly be implemented for those of us who do not want to part with our current armor.

Hello Kitty

Hello Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed

I like my 15k Glad's armor a lot on my girl warrior, but I sure would like to be able to swap the stats up. Energy is good, but I have gravitated towards wanting more armor as of late.

IrishCatholicNewYorker

IrishCatholicNewYorker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

FL (from Long Island NY)

Rage Against The Dying [RAGE]

Me/W

/signed
this is a great idea i love my canthan armor and i'd like to grab some insignias for it. Plz anet add this for us older players! don't penalize us for buying your first two campaigns.

BaconSoda

BaconSoda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

*Somewhere Under The Rainbow*

Leo

Me/

/ signed

Huzzah! I can wear stonefist gaunlets from tyria without looking like an idiot with 4/5 of me looking cool, and the other 1/5 with the knight's gloves.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmaniac
But I just absolutely 100% positively LOVE petitions! Anyways I haven't heard anything about whether or not Anet will be adding the option. Therefore little puppy-eyed begging can't hurt, right? Its a safe bet. We have nothing to lose here.
I know the feeling.

I had just finished buying my 15k armor for my pyro ele, and factions was released and the ele armor was far superiour with stats.

So my poor 15k tyrian armor was outdated.

They said they would modify all 15k armor in an update to make it the same as canthan armor.

It took months of waiting, but they did it in the end.

Be patient my young padwan.

Tydra

Tydra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

/signed

i think they should make new features available to older chapters. not only insignias, but also inscriptions for weapons. prophecies is a nice game and u can get good drops there .. but thats of no use if u cant get those inscriptions off them so u can put em on sumthin else. for example, if i find an chaos axe with 15^50 but high req and i have another axe with low req, id like to be able to take the 15^50 off the high req one and put it on the low req. u can do similar stuff with other weapons ofc too.

i dont know y new features should be available only for the new games. take the storage upgrade as an example: it was only in cantha at first, but since halloween its also in tyria available. i think they should add such new features in the same way to the older chapters.

im totally signing this petition ... for inscriptions and insignias for older chapters

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tydra
for example, if i find an chaos axe with 15^50 but high req and i have another axe with low req, id like to be able to take the 15^50 off the high req one and put it on the low req. u can do similar stuff with other weapons ofc too.
You can do with the new salvage facility cant you?

Accross all the campaigns you can choose what part to salvage and then attach it to any item.

Tydra

Tydra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
You can do with the new salvage facility cant you?

Accross all the campaigns you can choose what part to salvage and then attach it to any item.
nah, that new salvage system counts for upgrades, like, fiery, sundering, fortitude. but the mods, like 15^50, have to be on the weapon alrdy, otherwise u got bad luck. but in nightfall u can get those things off the weapons too, so u can apply it to sumthin else. at least i think so .. can anyone confirm this?

Karmaniac

Karmaniac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tydra
nah, that new salvage system counts for upgrades, like, fiery, sundering, fortitude. but the mods, like 15^50, have to be on the weapon alrdy, otherwise u got bad luck. but in nightfall u can get those things off the weapons too, so u can apply it to sumthin else. at least i think so .. can anyone confirm this?
I think that is the way it works. You cannot however use the inscriptions on Tyrian/Canthan weapons (at least not to those already holding inherent damage mod). Btw. since UW and FoW are core realms any knowledge if inscribed weapons or insigniaed armor drop there ATM?

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

/notsigned

If I ever go back to Cantha and Tyria for armor, I don't want to have to buy insignias for them too, especially at the price some insignias are at.

If Anet feels like FoW armor should be included, since its access is not limited to ToA in Tyria, I don't mind, just don't change the other armors.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

/SIGNED

Why?!

3 Words: Radiant Elementalist Armor

Elementalists gain a new armor mod in Nightfall. Additional Energy.

This armor mod is not available in the previous versions and is grossly overpowered vs existing Prophecies/Factions armor mods for elementalists.

azuresun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

WV, USA

Spirit of Elisha [SOE]

Me/

/signed

I tried to start a similiar petition here.

I think consistancy in game mechanics across the chapters is important. Plus, I would love to have 15k radiant rogue's armor for my mesmer!!

Aeon221

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

N/

It irks me, but I have to agree with this. I'd like to keep my ele in his super sexy pimp suit (aka hydromancer 15k), but I'm tired of having mods more worthless than... well, nothing is more worthless than armor vs cold, except maybe knights. Being able to put +hp armor on him (far superior to +e) without changing his look would be nice.

I already bought the mods because I assumed that something this logical would be in the game from the start.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

/signed

just make it so u need to own NF to do it though

Mr.Bimble

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

[ARSE] The Happy Campers

N/W

/sign
Nf armour is awful except for the dervish. imho.Especially the necro.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

There are both good and bad points inregarding to bringing insignias to armours from the old chapters. What will happen to existing armour that players have bought? Will this be seen as a PvE Nerf? These issues need to be addressed before we simply go ahead and decide to change it cause we feel it should be so otherwise we may start another flamewar over in the forums regarding this issue with dozens of threads making the same complaint over and over again like whats happening here at the moment with HA and Heros and other issues.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tydra
/signed

i think they should make new features available to older chapters. not only insignias, but also inscriptions for weapons. prophecies is a nice game and u can get good drops there .. but thats of no use if u cant get those inscriptions off them so u can put em on sumthin else. for example, if i find an chaos axe with 15^50 but high req and i have another axe with low req, id like to be able to take the 15^50 off the high req one and put it on the low req. u can do similar stuff with other weapons ofc too.

i dont know y new features should be available only for the new games. take the storage upgrade as an example: it was only in cantha at first, but since halloween its also in tyria available. i think they should add such new features in the same way to the older chapters.

im totally signing this petition ... for inscriptions and insignias for older chapters
See what i mean.... the inscription for items from the older chapter have also caused some heavy disccussions prior to release and now that we learn that it only affect NF weapons, everyone seem to be pleased with the arrangement. As for insignia for armours in older chapters, it will open another can of worms.

Tydra

Tydra

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
What will happen to existing armour that players have bought? Will this be seen as a PvE Nerf?
imo, make insignias at all armors into "insignias".. i mean, armor that always used to have extra energy, should have the "always energy" mod changed into an insignia, so u can remove or replace it if u want. this way, prior bought armor could be changed however u want it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
See what i mean.... the inscription for items from the older chapter have also caused some heavy disccussions prior to release and now that we learn that it only affect NF weapons, everyone seem to be pleased with the arrangement. As for insignia for armours in older chapters, it will open another can of worms.
imo, voicing ur opinion and have sum "constructive" discussions about it is good. talking means progress.. if nobody talks about sumthin, nothin would change. ud never know if anyone had a better idea, if u dont talk as long as it doesnt end up in a flamewar (which is just stupid and immature imo), i think discussions r always welcomed .. and the good thing about forums is, if anyone doesnt wanna take part in a discussion, ur not forced to do so

btw i dont see my previous post as an assault to anyone, and im stil not attacking anyone .. if i did or do, im sorry bout it, its not my intention

Anna Ryan

Anna Ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

MU

E/

/signed
I made the mistake of getting Battlemages 15k luxon for my ele instead of the one with the healthbonus. i got all survor insignia's for it so i just would like to replace the Battlemage 'insignia' to survivor instead of having to buy a complete new set + black dyes for it XD

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

/Signed. I'd *love* to turn my 15k Platemail into Radient ; ). Not to mention changing my FoW a bit.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

I'm pretty sure once chapter 4 comes out they will allow insigs to go on older armor.

Remember insigs is part of the selling point of Nightfall. A.net needs to make a profit afterall.

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

W/

/signed.

there's only a few armors I will be upgrading on my characters from Elona, the rest of them I'm happy with. I think this is simply fair.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

^ Yeah that's what happened with the mat storage.

/signed anyway