/signed
I want to get new armor for my war but I dont like any NF armor and I dont want to be left with inferior armor options either.
Petition: Insignias available for Tyrian/Canthan armor
Kool Pajamas
TsunamiZ
/signed
anet will delay this for money. like back then with no characters templates and 4 character slots. so not fun.
anet will delay this for money. like back then with no characters templates and 4 character slots. so not fun.
phasola
/signed
I can see why you can't add Inscriptions to weapons, but why don't they let you add insignias to armor ? Just feels stupid.
Ex : Johnny Killer bought full knights fow when he was farming 24/7. After some time, he realised he made a mistake, and now wants full glads. What would it be easier ? Buy another fow or add some stuff on your armor?...
I can see why you can't add Inscriptions to weapons, but why don't they let you add insignias to armor ? Just feels stupid.
Ex : Johnny Killer bought full knights fow when he was farming 24/7. After some time, he realised he made a mistake, and now wants full glads. What would it be easier ? Buy another fow or add some stuff on your armor?...
Phaedra Firesoul
/signed
i would love my studded leather armor to be useable other then just against lightening or my drakescale other then just against fire.
i would love my studded leather armor to be useable other then just against lightening or my drakescale other then just against fire.
Kuldebar Valiturus
You all realize that ANet does actually want people to purchase more than one Campaign? <shock>
So, let's consider for a moment that some content is found in one Campaign and not another.
If you want something that badly, go out and buy the new Campaign.
Correct me if I am wrong, but most Elona armor doesn't come "off the shelf" with a lot of the stats that Canthan and Tyrian armor does. So the Insignia and Inscription system evens it out.
It does however make that armor much more flexible.
But asking Anet to go back and retool the first two Campaigns isn't cool.
So, let's consider for a moment that some content is found in one Campaign and not another.
If you want something that badly, go out and buy the new Campaign.
Correct me if I am wrong, but most Elona armor doesn't come "off the shelf" with a lot of the stats that Canthan and Tyrian armor does. So the Insignia and Inscription system evens it out.
It does however make that armor much more flexible.
But asking Anet to go back and retool the first two Campaigns isn't cool.
Jeremy Untouchable
/agree...........why not, i think FOW guys would love to update.............i would like to get 16 axe with my 15k ascalon helm
phasola
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You all realize that ANet does actually want people to purchase more than one Campaign? <shock> So, let's consider for a moment that some content is found in one Campaign and not another. If you want something that badly, go out and buy the new Campaign. Correct me if I am wrong, but most Elona armor doesn't come "off the shelf" with a lot of the stats that Canthan and Tyrian armor does. So the Insignia and Inscription system evens it out. It does however make that armor much more flexible. But asking Anet to go back and retool the first two Campaigns isn't cool. |
MithranArkanere
This is solved easily.
1. Make all armor with no functionalities allow insignias. This includes collector ones.
2. Make all the non-perfect armor crafters craft only non-insigned armor. This mainly affects Prophecies until Droknar's Forge and Shing Jea.
3. Turn old armors with max armor insigned. Users won't notice the difference, since the attributes will stay the same. Yup, a lot of isignias will be created that way, but... I don't think that anyone will try to recycle an Obsidian armor to get a +10 armor bonus out.
4. Non perfect armor with functionalities will remain the same for a time, to let players have time to change to the new system, then, after some time (3 months is more than enough to make a charater get a better armor) , they will lose their functionalities, to prevent people geting free insignia from low level armor.
5. Make all the creatures in Cantha an tyria drop insignias in recyclable armor drops.
That should fix that.
1. Make all armor with no functionalities allow insignias. This includes collector ones.
2. Make all the non-perfect armor crafters craft only non-insigned armor. This mainly affects Prophecies until Droknar's Forge and Shing Jea.
3. Turn old armors with max armor insigned. Users won't notice the difference, since the attributes will stay the same. Yup, a lot of isignias will be created that way, but... I don't think that anyone will try to recycle an Obsidian armor to get a +10 armor bonus out.
4. Non perfect armor with functionalities will remain the same for a time, to let players have time to change to the new system, then, after some time (3 months is more than enough to make a charater get a better armor) , they will lose their functionalities, to prevent people geting free insignia from low level armor.
5. Make all the creatures in Cantha an tyria drop insignias in recyclable armor drops.
That should fix that.
Gigashadow
/signed.
I would like to keep my Kurzick 15k helm graphic but have something other than the newly added hard-coded +1 energy bonus for legacy helms. Right now I have to use an elona helm and just disable the head graphic (I don't like the look of the combo) if I want a more useful bonus.
I would like to keep my Kurzick 15k helm graphic but have something other than the newly added hard-coded +1 energy bonus for legacy helms. Right now I have to use an elona helm and just disable the head graphic (I don't like the look of the combo) if I want a more useful bonus.
Nadasee
/Signed
I really would like to see this feature now that NF is realeased and all armos there have it. (Not sure about having it as a End Game feature though, a Armorer or just do it in the Inventory window like now would be the best)
Back in the old days i had to get different kinds of sets for my, let's say Necro. if i wanted to be a MM or SS ect, couse of the +5 armor bonus while controling a surten amount of minions or have/cast hex for the SS.
Now i mostly use the new NF set couse i can costomize it for my current build (gets Expensive to change back and so on, I REALLY want to set all my good old sets to different Builds and store them to it's use) But i do use my old ones to, but with less success i have notice, since it's not allways you want just thoes bonuses they offer atm. Well i have managed it this far so i'm not complaining. Just a really nice feature in NF and the future of Armor.
I really would like to see this feature now that NF is realeased and all armos there have it. (Not sure about having it as a End Game feature though, a Armorer or just do it in the Inventory window like now would be the best)
Back in the old days i had to get different kinds of sets for my, let's say Necro. if i wanted to be a MM or SS ect, couse of the +5 armor bonus while controling a surten amount of minions or have/cast hex for the SS.
Now i mostly use the new NF set couse i can costomize it for my current build (gets Expensive to change back and so on, I REALLY want to set all my good old sets to different Builds and store them to it's use) But i do use my old ones to, but with less success i have notice, since it's not allways you want just thoes bonuses they offer atm. Well i have managed it this far so i'm not complaining. Just a really nice feature in NF and the future of Armor.
yayrichie
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You all realize that ANet does actually want people to purchase more than one Campaign? <shock>
So, let's consider for a moment that some content is found in one Campaign and not another. If you want something that badly, go out and buy the new Campaign. |
In other words...
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Fried Eyed The High
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i dont think it is right to modify older chapters of guildwars to be more like the current chapter. insignias and heroes should stay in elona. otherwise why should i buy new chapters when i know the devs will eventually implement the changes.
BTW i an not happy about implementing material storage for tyria characters. in my opinion, if you want these types of upgrades then you need to buy the new chapters and move your toons through them like the rest of us. also, tyria and cantha have their own personalities and introducing these new elements will ruin that. /not signed |
I agree. And if they implement this you should only be able to do it if your account has a night fall CD key attached to it.
/not signed
Avatara
/not signed
Insignia's should be a good reason to force some people to finally buy new armor. It's NF exclusive for now and should stay like that.
Insignia's should be a good reason to force some people to finally buy new armor. It's NF exclusive for now and should stay like that.
yayrichie
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/not signed
Insignia's should be a good reason to force some people to finally buy new armor. It's NF exclusive for now and should stay like that. |
Again, wouldn't making insignias (or for that matter, making any game improvement) exclusive to the campaign in which they were created devalue older campaigns?
dbunder
At the very least, I think they should offer "insignia-able" Tyrian and Canthan armor in Elona to folks who have Prophecies and Factions added onto their account. I play mainly casters, and most of the time armor doesn't make a huge difference between life or death. So I choose my armor based on looks (well, half looks, half +energy), and quite honestly, a good part of the NF armor looks horrible. Just personal taste/opinion. Give me my Shing Jea or Bonelace - no fugly feathery crap. 
Same with weapons. Anything white, blue, purple, or gold dropped in any campaign, providing the user has a NF key, should be able to be inscribed (which would overwrite any Proph or Factions-style mods).
But eh, everyone is right, one or both will happen eventually.
Same with weapons. Anything white, blue, purple, or gold dropped in any campaign, providing the user has a NF key, should be able to be inscribed (which would overwrite any Proph or Factions-style mods).
But eh, everyone is right, one or both will happen eventually.
Darq
/signed
I fell in love with the Bonelace Armour skin today, so all excited, I look on GuildWiki as to where I can find this really cool looking armour. Well I was dissapointed to say the least when I saw it was Prophecies only and thus, stuck with the +15% vs. Peircing, and really, Radient pwns
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I fell in love with the Bonelace Armour skin today, so all excited, I look on GuildWiki as to where I can find this really cool looking armour. Well I was dissapointed to say the least when I saw it was Prophecies only and thus, stuck with the +15% vs. Peircing, and really, Radient pwns
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Hell Marauder
/signed
It's boring to see everyone wearing Elonian armors just for the insignia. And while Anet wants to sell new chapter, they need to take care of customers who bought, and those who are buying Prophecy and Factions too. Anet has the obligation to update Tyrian and Canthan armors, because they're still charging the same price for Prophecy and Factions in their online store.
It's boring to see everyone wearing Elonian armors just for the insignia. And while Anet wants to sell new chapter, they need to take care of customers who bought, and those who are buying Prophecy and Factions too. Anet has the obligation to update Tyrian and Canthan armors, because they're still charging the same price for Prophecy and Factions in their online store.
MithranArkanere
Yup, old campings are been sold right now.
THere should be retroactive changes once in a while.
I would even pay for a 'remake' with new things, like moving mouths in cinematics.
THere should be retroactive changes once in a while.
I would even pay for a 'remake' with new things, like moving mouths in cinematics.
Lord Deathknight
Maybe they should do what they did in Cantha, have an armor crafter in one of the main cities that sells the older type armor with the new upgrades, or they could make a marker for your character that if you have certain campaigns then you would have access to the latest features in armors.
For example you would still have to go to the Marhan's Grotto to get the 15k Tryian Gladiator armor, but by having Nightfalls attached to your account, you would be able to Inscript it with Sentinels. I think by doing the latter you would have more incentive to come back and collect what you like for your character.
For example you would still have to go to the Marhan's Grotto to get the 15k Tryian Gladiator armor, but by having Nightfalls attached to your account, you would be able to Inscript it with Sentinels. I think by doing the latter you would have more incentive to come back and collect what you like for your character.
Pete1975
/signed
They should do this, fow costs a fortune and I wanna be able to change it!
They should do this, fow costs a fortune and I wanna be able to change it!
Swame Rain
NOT SIGNED/ .....and i own all three chapters of GW from day one on each chapter.
My reasoning is when is this gonna end, I want my old weapons to be inscriptable, I want all the same double the drop rate weekends..I want the same skill set that you can get in all the chapters....etc etc....i want i want i want i want....see my point. Just buy new armor.
The only set of armor I would agree on is the FoW stuff..cuz it is connnected to all chapters.
My reasoning is when is this gonna end, I want my old weapons to be inscriptable, I want all the same double the drop rate weekends..I want the same skill set that you can get in all the chapters....etc etc....i want i want i want i want....see my point. Just buy new armor.
The only set of armor I would agree on is the FoW stuff..cuz it is connnected to all chapters.
Lyphen
The day I get to inscribe my ranger's Kurzick armor (never anything else, it goes with the ponytail) with a Brawler's Insignia, and my mesmer's 15K rogue with Sentry's will be a glorious one!
Please arenanet, please!
Please arenanet, please!
Pompeyfan
/signed for being able to add insignia to my FoW armour as noway can I afford to buy it again - it was a struggle the first time.
bhavv
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NOT SIGNED/ .....and i own all three chapters of GW from day one on each chapter.
My reasoning is when is this gonna end, I want my old weapons to be inscriptable, I want all the same double the drop rate weekends..I want the same skill set that you can get in all the chapters....etc etc....i want i want i want i want....see my point. Just buy new armor. The only set of armor I would agree on is the FoW stuff..cuz it is connnected to all chapters. |
I buy armour based on the looks, and I have 15k canthan on my elly, 1.5k kurzick on my monk, and am going to save for 15k kurzick on my rit.
If I want insignias, why dont I buy NF armour? BECAUSE I PREFER THE LOOK OF THE ONES FROM FACTIONS.
If I buy the armour I prefer, why should that stop me from using insignias to change the stats? It just means I dont need to carry around 4 or 5 sets of armour to be able to change between the attributes.
/signed so I can customise my armour without having to buy ugly NF ones.
The Silver Star
/notsigned
I have 4 sets of fissure armor and admittadly was pritty "miffed" when they changed the stats of Platemail and didnt update for so long i actually bought a new set to replace it, i was also unhappy when they added insignias. Personally i think all that they should of never added insignias to armor nor weapons apart from PvP characters, i would hate it if they made all weps inscribable and this would push them to do so.
I have 4 sets of fissure armor and admittadly was pritty "miffed" when they changed the stats of Platemail and didnt update for so long i actually bought a new set to replace it, i was also unhappy when they added insignias. Personally i think all that they should of never added insignias to armor nor weapons apart from PvP characters, i would hate it if they made all weps inscribable and this would push them to do so.
Jedimagician
/signed for fow only because its connected to all 3 chapters.. looks the same.. expensive etc.
Blackstream
/signed
Armor stats are the same for all the armors in the chapters (best armors I mean).
But to make "better" amors in NF (which mostly look awful - alike Dervish) is completly out-of-border idea. Braking the first.
Armor stats are the same for all the armors in the chapters (best armors I mean).
But to make "better" amors in NF (which mostly look awful - alike Dervish) is completly out-of-border idea. Braking the first.
RagnarArthurson
/signed
I find some Tyrian armors are looking awesome, but as they don't have the bonuses I would like to have, I don't buy them (15k Plate Armor for Warrior, for instance). What a shame ...
I find some Tyrian armors are looking awesome, but as they don't have the bonuses I would like to have, I don't buy them (15k Plate Armor for Warrior, for instance). What a shame ...
Karmaniac
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NOT SIGNED/ .....and i own all three chapters of GW from day one on each chapter.
My reasoning is when is this gonna end, I want my old weapons to be inscriptable, I want all the same double the drop rate weekends..I want the same skill set that you can get in all the chapters....etc etc....i want i want i want i want....see my point. Just buy new armor. The only set of armor I would agree on is the FoW stuff..cuz it is connnected to all chapters. |
MithranArkanere
In Cantha the solution is really easy: make the ones without attributes allow insignias.
In Propecies they'll just had to add to the already existing Blacksmiths the set without attributes. And another NPC where the list could be too long.
In Propecies they'll just had to add to the already existing Blacksmiths the set without attributes. And another NPC where the list could be too long.
Carinae
At the very least: All existing FOW and 15K armors should be upgraded to support insignias. They would KEEP their current attributes, but gain the ability to change them.
I don't mind having to re-purchase the 1.5k armors, but I REFUSE to re-purchase my FOW because If I had the option, I would have bought the insignia version originally!
The 15k armors are in the middle. I CAN afford to re-buy them, but I am sentimental about my 15k Necrotic (my first nice set) and don't want to lose it.
I don't mind having to re-purchase the 1.5k armors, but I REFUSE to re-purchase my FOW because If I had the option, I would have bought the insignia version originally!
The 15k armors are in the middle. I CAN afford to re-buy them, but I am sentimental about my 15k Necrotic (my first nice set) and don't want to lose it.
alarico511
/sign and kinda /not sign
Well i /sign beacuse i work my way throuhgt hell getting money for 3 set of 15k armor( all grotto for water fire earth(sry air not rich enough))
not sign beacuse well i think Anet doesnt want it beacuse it might be a invetion of elona and has nothing to do with tyria and cantha(like rice is to china)
Well i /sign beacuse i work my way throuhgt hell getting money for 3 set of 15k armor( all grotto for water fire earth(sry air not rich enough))
not sign beacuse well i think Anet doesnt want it beacuse it might be a invetion of elona and has nothing to do with tyria and cantha(like rice is to china)
LicensedLuny
I think it's fair for there to be an NPC in Elona that can make any armor insignable for a fee. I think it's fair for that NPC to be either early in the game or late in the game, but the NPC should be in an outpost. Don't make people repeat the same quest over and over on the same character to reach an upgrade NPC ... that's already done for infusion.
I don't think it's fair that this option be given only to people with old FoW armor, since there really is no way to say for sure who worked "harder" for which armor art. That's too subjective.
The eventual addition of material storage NPC's to all chapters makes me think ANet will eventually add an option to upgrade old armor. Neither the new armor bonuses nor the art-independent armor system from Cantha were ever introduced into Tyria, so those make me think ANet won't add this option.
Still, /signed /agree
I'd really appreciate this feature, and I think it would be a nice reward from ANet to people with multiple chapters.
I don't think it's fair that this option be given only to people with old FoW armor, since there really is no way to say for sure who worked "harder" for which armor art. That's too subjective.
The eventual addition of material storage NPC's to all chapters makes me think ANet will eventually add an option to upgrade old armor. Neither the new armor bonuses nor the art-independent armor system from Cantha were ever introduced into Tyria, so those make me think ANet won't add this option.
Still, /signed /agree
I'd really appreciate this feature, and I think it would be a nice reward from ANet to people with multiple chapters.
Sable Phoenix
They should only add Insignia to previous chapters' armors if they fix the broken prices first. I'm not going to pay 8.5k for Bloodstained Insignia when I can get the equivalent in Factions for 500g, and I'm not going to accept being forced to pay that 8.5k by switching to the Insignia system for all armors.
TheLordOfBlah
/notsigned, trash the whole inscription/insignia idea.
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/Signed
More money sink.
More money sink.
scrinner
Its not a question about not doing it but it not being possible. What im thinking is the entries for each armors are different and would require real life change of gulidwars software and databases and would cost them alot of time and money.
Thats just me but i know gaile said its currently impossible for them to do.
Thats just me but i know gaile said its currently impossible for them to do.
Nexus Icon
It's very far from impossible; there ARE precedents.
For example, take the stats of the old Rockmolder.
The first Rockmolder had a 20% chance to half skill recharge.
They then changed this so that for a long time, 2 versions of the Rockmolder co-existed, one with 20%, one with 10%.
Then in the 13/7/2006 update, they changed the old Rockmolders to have the same stats as the new ones.
They also changed the stats on the Crimson Carapace shield retroactively.
So it would be trivial for them to upgrade all armours so that their current stats change to inscribable ones instead.
For example, take the stats of the old Rockmolder.
The first Rockmolder had a 20% chance to half skill recharge.
They then changed this so that for a long time, 2 versions of the Rockmolder co-existed, one with 20%, one with 10%.
Then in the 13/7/2006 update, they changed the old Rockmolders to have the same stats as the new ones.
They also changed the stats on the Crimson Carapace shield retroactively.
So it would be trivial for them to upgrade all armours so that their current stats change to inscribable ones instead.
Sol_Vie
At some point they'll probably make it so insignias are current through all three chapters. Right now, it's just a selling point for Nightfall.
hubin_at
/signed
It is completely pointless not to allow them.
It is completely pointless not to allow them.