Idea: PVE Island available to ALL chapters

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

I'm still against the title req... i hate titles... i can't seem to find time to earn them... and it's the only downside to NF as far as i'm concerned. I just hate grind, and killing random things for sunspear points got really old, really fast. And I shouldn't have to run around a whole map, getting that last .000001% I need to access this area.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

/signed

I like.

One small question then?

Would there be an exploration title for this island, and a protector title is there are quests and possible missions?

If there arent any missions, I would suggest having an RPG side to it and making people earn the right to use the island for trading and hanging out.

Make them work through a few missions and quests to unlock certain areas.

To just give it to them seems too easy, especially if it holds armor and weapons.

Or only allow access to certain areas if you have completed certain campaigns.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
I'm still against the title req... i hate titles... i can't seem to find time to earn them... and it's the only downside to NF as far as i'm concerned. I just hate grind, and killing random things for sunspear points got really old, really fast. And I shouldn't have to run around a whole map, getting that last .000001% I need to access this area.
Isnt that like saying you dont want to explore anything, in order to find stuff?

So just give 100% access to everything when you start a new campaign.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
I'm still against the title req... i hate titles... i can't seem to find time to earn them... and it's the only downside to NF as far as i'm concerned. I just hate grind, and killing random things for sunspear points got really old, really fast. And I shouldn't have to run around a whole map, getting that last .000001% I need to access this area.

Ok, well hey since the guru boys like to delete my posts so much, Ill make another one about it here...

**there is currently a bug affecting the Hero Shall Lead Quest- and it works under the same principal as the Consulate Ferry some spots in Cantha.

For Elonians, yes, flame on haters, there isnt a big need for this = we've all enjoyed our time on the starter island with our new characters, and obviously have quite a lot of sunspear points...

but for those of us bringing over our old Monks, Mesmers, Ele's, Necros, Tanks, Sins, Rits, (Do you get my point yet??)

**Join a party with someone who has accumulated the 2500 points, and go with them when they talk to Dunkoro to activate the last phase of the quest. As you go into Sunward Marches, the NPCs will be set for the quest (Kournans at the first Rez Shrine is the visual confirmation) and as long as the person who just got rank 7 talks to the NPC outside Verta Cemetary your party will be transported in the town, with the Cinematic.

**After watching the cinematic, you are able to talk to the Mission Starter NPC in town who then gives you the reward for the Hero Shall Lead quest, no matter what your Rank is.

**My lowest sunspear rank non-elonian is rank 3, with no need to ever farm sunspear again new quests notwithstanding.

Like many others I have already 'done' my time for these sunspear jokers quite a few times over, and my relief/joy when I accidentally stumble across this with my necro was, as you can be sure, very rewarding in itself. All I was doing was being a nice guy and helping some kid out thinkin Id farm like up to rank 5... I almost declined the invitation - LOL


$$$$ I will give an Ecto, Ruby, and Sapphire to the first level 2 character with Bone Palace Armor shown to me In-Game, no screenshots allowed. $$$$



Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Isnt that like saying you dont want to explore anything, in order to find stuff?

So just give 100% access to everything when you start a new campaign.
the point is that we already have explored these areas countless times just in the few weeks the game was out.

Im sorry but Id rather spend my time exploring Desolation and Torment buddy. My old characters are a little past killing level 16 monsters LOL



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as far as the topic of the thread goes.

/Not Signed

That is what the Temple of Balthazar is last I checked. If you want to AFK in a town, go hang out in a cool one.

Some of the ideas werent horrible, but I think it would be a waste of ANet's time and I would be happier knowing they were working on cool content, not some wierd little magic town.


Ironically - If they DO implement an area like this, I think FreakedOutFish has the right kind of ideas for it.

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zui
"Just a place to hang out and go AFK ;D."

You can't replace Marhan's Grotto. Don't even try!
Maguuma Stade.

Oooooooh you got beaten


Kinda unfair, that title holders can only go to certain areas.
Mabye, if possible/not to hard to do, you could make a ban bot which bans people who constantly get text chat exceeded messages?

If so, /signed.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Horseman Of War >

This may make me sound rather stupid, but was that last post generally trying to say that Non-Elonian born characters have a harder time getting sunspear points?

I ask, because I had no issues when I took my lvl20 to Elona and I managed to get plenty of sunspear points into my title.

I think im up to 8 by now - I aoplogise if im wrong, I havent checked in a while.

So forgive me, especially if I miss-understood your post, but im failing to see what the issue is with achieving them?

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

No titles.. no missions. Just a central area. Were not trying to create a new continent now are we ? Lets not scare away anet

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by scrinner
No titles.. no missions. Just a central area. Were not trying to create a new continent now are we ? Lets not scare away anet
So basically its a chat room :P and a trading house! Absolutely no questing or missions. Just a nice sit down in the park with your mates and chill....

...if I didnt think Anet might percieve that as waste of effort and money, Id love the idea.

S_Serpent

S_Serpent

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium

Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erudition
/signed

But I thought maybe you could expand Battle Ilses and change the name? Just a thought.

Signed

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
So basically its a chat room :P and a trading house! Absolutely no questing or missions. Just a nice sit down in the park with your mates and chill....

...if I didnt think Anet might percieve that as waste of effort and money, Id love the idea.
I dont think focusing on the social and community part of Guild Wars is a waste of time, considering the game is very weak in this aspect.

With every expansion, the population gets seperated and the only common area is Battle Isle. Battle Isle/Temple of Balthazar is inherently an PVP area and carries a stigma as well as players with a bad attitude with it.

I have all 3 chapters. So it doesnt affect me much when theres holiday stuff only in chapter 2, or only in chapter 3 or whatever. But other players are not so lucky. A central town for holiday events and such would be more than a welcome addition, imo.

leguma

leguma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Steel Phoenix[StP]

Me/

Personally, I was convinced that A.net would be doing something like this ever since Factions came out. It would have been retarded to have to port from the old temple of the pimeval kings to a Factions version and back again simply to find a group. Especially since to do this you must pass through LA and Kaineng which are both uber lag fests.

Having to do this to get a group for one of the god areas is just as retarded. However, the most retarded things is trying to sell or buy something. Yuu have LA, Droknar's, Kaineng, Kamadan and Kodash Bazzar. Not to mention that to get to some of these locations you Must pass through the choke-towns which are always packed.

This is the important and core part of the game that has been overlooked and needs to be addressed: main trade hub and main god area hub. Obviously, everybody would like to see something or another appear into the game, however, this thread has long degenrated into talks about why you should or should not need this or that title to enter some or another area, all of which might be related to purple unicorns with gills and an afinity for chewing tabacco.

As for the hollydays thing, use you common sense people. They are being used as a marketing tool, and as such they wil never become free for all.

bottom line: gogogogo main trade hub and main god area hub, very easy to make with minimal effrot simply by using existing content. Everything else is wishfull dreaming.

Cataclysm

Cataclysm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Lost Dynasty [SEEK]

W/Mo

/signed

bog boy

bog boy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

pxks

R/E

/signed a million times but the only problem is that u will end up in dis 150 or something:S

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

I wanna set into motion the ability to release minipets in any of the outposts of PvE Island.

If not just for the mass chibi squad.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
$$$$ I will give an Ecto, Ruby, and Sapphire to the first level 2 character with Bone Palace Armor shown to me In-Game, no screenshots allowed. $$$$
That's not possible. You can't DO Consulate Docks if you haven't done the quest leading up to it (even if you join a party with people who have), the guy just decines your party, saying something like "Dunkoro didn't mention *player* was coming along".

desolation0

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Pennsylvania

The Teutonic Warriors [TW]

Me/

Remember that any new content would have to be "doable" by the good, hard-working folks at Anet.

As far as the titles are concerned, just getting to the docks which allow access to other continents should be enough of a qualification to reach the PvE island/continent and do the things that are there. Before then, there is little need to use the services offered usually.

On the part of what the island/continent could contain:

Peacful trading port - your auction house - of course this would depopulate the other large trade towns, but then again it is depopulating them of the selling/buying spammers leaving behind those interested in questing there

Centralized party searching hub/community center - with the Trade ability disabled spamming sellers would be nearly worthless - meanwhile a bulletin board style system (as an expample and probably not the best way) could organize the party hunt by continent/city

Grand Temple of the Gods - universal access to UW and FOW people so greatly desire


Beyond these areas, the other suggestions would seem to take too much change to be made quickly and properly. They also wouldn't add a particularly large ammount of new stuff that could be done by the players.

One option I did like was that each new land, as well as Tyria, Elona and Cantha, gets a "Commerce and Political Outpost" on this peacful commercial island/continent. Players from each of these regions can see a glimpse of the others. This is similar to how some other posts mentioned a city spiraling outwards with new expansions. Creating the first few would be a bit of a pain but new ones would be a normal part of developing the new Campaigns, and it only takes as much effort as any other city that already gets put into the games.

Some of these ideas favor a continent over a smaller island, but not all of that continent would neccessarily have to be covered in stuff to do, or even any terrain, at least not yet.

Allowing the island/continent to be Peacful would prevent the need for much background and storyline. This also prevents the need for the outside areas. Being instanced, they do little for community togetherness anyhow. A plot could be added if the developers wanted, such as through a new elite mission or two that are open to everybody. Here's hoping for having to save the Xunlai Grand Vaults.

The main thing that must be prevented is making these new areas as useless as the Great Temple of Balthazar seems to be to me, personally. There is practically nothing to do there that isn't available in the regular towns/pvp areas.

Among other things that can prevent this, having regular events, whether or not the grand holiday get-togethers are included, in the area. This, even if temporarily, would get players to come to these areas in large numbers.

Oh, and
/signed

I find it rare that an idea sparks such a reasonable discussion on a message board, no matter how mature (or not ) most of the posters may normally be.

Turel2

Turel2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed for overlap island

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

/signed!!

I liked the Zoo idea I read a few pages back. But it should be like a rune trader. You pay a fee and get a chance to tame a certain animal. The animals would be limited to whatever people sold to the tamer.

I wish there was a dance club outpost with unique dance commands. I swear by Grenth that I will have my /dothehustle and /macarena commands!!!

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

el bump!~

Sniper Corps

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Zero Mercy

R/Mo

This shouldnt have to Be Bumped lol. it was such an awesome idea!!!

If they Dont implement it we might have to Tip a Car!!!!
/agree (Again. My post is somehwere back there)

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

good idea...but there could be issues.
A: how does it play into cartographer titles?
B: since a place like this would OBVIOUSLY be more populated, how do you control lag?
C: how do you manage districts, because of the over-population, will come the displacement of current trade-hubs to these areas, forming more districts...this could be a problem with foreign text driving people out.
D: what monster-lvl environment is it?
E: if its made, the place is made, it should definetly have FoW access...bringing people together of all chapters.

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

R/

/signed. They could also have a tavern there.

RodyPA

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Life With The Thrill Kill Kult [Kult]

R/

/signed

For extra goodness, give the place the textures and look of pre-searing Ascalon (I'm not saying take pre-searing and put it there, but that the soft, autumnal look of much of pre-searing was part of what makes it so beloved IMO). There are one or two guild maps that have this look, and I very much like them, too.

ManiakNL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Dutch Assasins

W/

great idea i totaly loved it /signed

the pve hang out place must be someting indeed like pre searing i mean the tree's,flowers etc and grass a nice inviroment to hang out in
not a evil prince rurik hopping around

Cold

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zui
"Just a place to hang out and go AFK ;D."

You can't replace Marhan's Grotto. Don't even try!

SO TRUE, YOU MADE ME CRY

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

This thread has gotten a bit long so sorry if I missed this suggestion but here's mine.

Have an area with a "donation box". This would be a gold sink and for every X gold donated by the community, Anet would make changes to the town/area. Maybe it could be like a "vote". There would be different options to "vote" for. The first option to receive a certain amount of money would be the option implemented into the town. It could be a new statue, new landscape, new skyline, new town architecture, ANYTHING!

Stormcloud

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

/signed cool idea!

The Last Windseeker

The Last Windseeker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

/Signed, I really hope Anet is reading this because this would be great. I hope they put this near the top of their to do list because this would add so many aspects to the game that people have been begging for.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

omg i love this idea, i was kinda thinking this too, but i never thought anyone would like it so....
/SIGNED

Shadow_7

Shadow_7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Raiders of Gilead

W/R

/signed, very cool idea.

CidBlackwood

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ascalon

/signed

The great me bestowes his blessing ^-^

awitelin

awitelin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

E/Mo

There are so many possible directions ANet could take with such a central place. I love it. Plus, since it's more fun/hangout involved, it might cultivate an RP community, which I am totally all for.

/signed

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

good idea, but I'd do like 1 extra outpost(the mentioned auction house maybe)
where it is allowed to sell stuff.
it should not be allowed to ad in central, that would ruin it all...(and please no monsters around this town, so the farm bots don't even think to go there)

/signed:

add:
no trade in central
no monsters around-->no farmbots

baz777

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

/signed

This has many possibilities for future events, (as long as no campaign only bias exists, hate that).

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

/signed

Also add a Title Track that increases as you complete FoW quests or kill FoW enemies, so we can separate experienced players from those less expereinced (just like HA).

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

I forget if I already signed this one....but....

/signed


I also think this thread should be sticky'd



/sticky

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

with the new party search, and trade tab for a whole outpost, do you REALIZE how much more EASIER it could be to buy or sell something? or harder, its all luck and great deals really...

/signed and /signed.

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

/bump for A-Net.
Please make a place where the whole community from each chapter can have fun.
Like would say Gaile
"Ooh Puulll-leeeeease!"

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade26
Also add a Title Track that increases as you complete FoW quests or kill FoW enemies, so we can separate experienced players from those less expereinced (just like HA).
Your kidding right?You really dont mean to make the discrimination go to FoW/UW too right?Ok didnt think so.

I already signed this but ill do it again.

/Signed

V??na R??nd??ttir

V??na R??nd??ttir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Hong Kong

Astral Travellers[OBE]

R/

I think this idea is too amorphous so I don't support it. There are several different suggestions here as to how such a central place would be used, and I don't think they should all belong together.
1. A place for people from different games to meet. No problem with that. We have a PvP island so why not a PvE island too.
2. A centralised marketplace. Not with the current methods of trading thank you. That would be hell. The major towns are full enough with spam already. Trading needs a major overhaul itself, and only after that should a centralised idea be reconsidered.
3. Central holiday event place. Then there would be fewer reasons for people to buy all campaigns, and it would be less varied, so again no.
4. A centralised place for ANet to meet players. Int districts when Gaile appears fill up very quickly with people who want to shout about their own mini pets and storage problems. Having a place reserved for this would only mean you couldn't get in unless you stayed there all the time, which doesn't encourage mixing and meeting. I suspect ANet employees would rather meet players who are in a place to play, rather than lurking there ready to harrass them.
5. A centralised place to join guilds. Do you think this would stop recruitment spam in other places? Recruiting, like trading and mission party making, needs an overhaul too. How anyone could intelligently choose a guild based on a centralised shouting place is beyond me.
6. A place to hang out or roleplay. Yes, I would like that. Role players would like that too. Preferably a place with no traders, recruiters, and where you didn't start quests from.
7. A place to go afk. I hate meeting characters who are afk. If you don't want to miss guild chat go to your own guild hall to do that.
8. A place to get special quests. No need. The main continents have plenty of those. If you want more, buy the next campaign.
9. A centralised place to enter FoW, UW. Not against the idea, but this should be separate from any roleplaying hang out.
10. Centralised core armour makers or skill sellers. No need, they're in all the campaigns already. And some skills are in guild halls too. I see no reason for more in this place.
11. Having it accessible to an 'elite' only, with the right title or rank. Why? If it's to meet friends to role play why do they need a title?