Unique Drop (3 x likely) Weekend Planned - ((Elona Only))
Sooty
Well i think i'm happy about this, I kinda wish they'd waited until we'd found all the bosses and had a list of all the greens. I've finished the game twice and explored a fair bit but i'm still bumping into new bosses all over the place and wouldn't have a clue what half of them drop. Hopefully they'll do it again a bit later.
olth
Nice event, too bad im still on the starter island 
You didnt spend enough time in school :P
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Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing
You spend too much time on the forums :P
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Kha
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Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing
3 times 0 is zero . .
You spend too much time on the forums :P |
Someone didn't pay attention in math class.
VitisVinifera
well well this thread is playing out exactly like the Canthan 3x green drop weekend. And back in that thread I recall making a point that now seems even more valid.
Back in the 3x Canthan green drop, I commented it was a cool idea, but since it came at the tail end of that game's 6 months, that by then everyone pretty much had all the greens they wanted. Fine. I concluded that making it about half way through (ie, 3 months into it) would have been optimal.
Well now here we are at the opposite end of that, this is the 3rd weekend into the game. While again, I won't complain, this is too early. I only just got to the Realm of Torment with my farming Warrior, and only played a tiny bit with my other characters. It would be nice to have explored the entire game, get an idea of the layout, where the bosses are, especially the easier to farm / most desirable uniques, etc.
Again, I'm not complaining, but it would be nice to have a bit more time playing this game, exploring it, understanding it, before jumping right into the rat race that is farming. Looks like I'll be spending the little playing time I have during the week unlocking the towns in Realm, as well as trying to get my farming Necro as far as I can.
Back in the 3x Canthan green drop, I commented it was a cool idea, but since it came at the tail end of that game's 6 months, that by then everyone pretty much had all the greens they wanted. Fine. I concluded that making it about half way through (ie, 3 months into it) would have been optimal.
Well now here we are at the opposite end of that, this is the 3rd weekend into the game. While again, I won't complain, this is too early. I only just got to the Realm of Torment with my farming Warrior, and only played a tiny bit with my other characters. It would be nice to have explored the entire game, get an idea of the layout, where the bosses are, especially the easier to farm / most desirable uniques, etc.
Again, I'm not complaining, but it would be nice to have a bit more time playing this game, exploring it, understanding it, before jumping right into the rat race that is farming. Looks like I'll be spending the little playing time I have during the week unlocking the towns in Realm, as well as trying to get my farming Necro as far as I can.
chicks boy
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Originally Posted by Deleet
Yep, people can see this as a bad thing.
* Weaponry (including Greens) are suposed to be availible for average Joe. This game isn't about making loads of money, it's about having fun. |
Thallandor
Perhaps some players need to understand some basic principles again:
Greens are the causal players equal of perfectly modded gold items, they are there to provide easy access to max modded items by playing through the game "hopefully" normally, not to fuel the economy.
There has been some reports of observations that drop rates have been decreased but this could be likely due to more players playing with Heros+Hench, hence resulting in an illusion of lesser assigned drops, with this 3x weekend, it serves to help players who might like to obtain such of a green item to do so. Please consider how this might benefit more players than your own pixelated wallets.
Greens are the causal players equal of perfectly modded gold items, they are there to provide easy access to max modded items by playing through the game "hopefully" normally, not to fuel the economy.
There has been some reports of observations that drop rates have been decreased but this could be likely due to more players playing with Heros+Hench, hence resulting in an illusion of lesser assigned drops, with this 3x weekend, it serves to help players who might like to obtain such of a green item to do so. Please consider how this might benefit more players than your own pixelated wallets.
natuxatu
Wow people clearly need something to complain about. First there is the 11+ pages of Elona boring already... so they have this green weekend and the majority are complaining about drops when it *hasn't even started yet* It's kinda sad really the lenghts some will go to but it's so much easier to hate.. such is games such is life.
Anyway I'm excited about it. I'll get some greens for my heroes and so forth.
Anyway I'm excited about it. I'll get some greens for my heroes and so forth.
Malice Black
Hope I get some decent greens my heroes need something beside starter items lol
Good idea imo, will bring chaos to my green baseline pricing guide for a little while though..
Good idea imo, will bring chaos to my green baseline pricing guide for a little while though..
CyberNigma
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Originally Posted by Zakarr
Online games are always about the virtual ego. Majority of people want to show others than they are better. Unfortunately this is a cold fact and the biggest reason why GW doesn't have 6 million accounts.
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bam23
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Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing
3 times 0 is zero . .
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BoredJoe
Feel it's too early for an event too. Hope the "we're bored" thread hasn't caused this, as I thought that was a more general discussion about Guild Wars rather than a we want an event thread.
Maybe I'm being paranoid but perhaps A.Net ran some reports over the player base and found that they're either not taking to Nightfall or leaving after it's done?
EDIT: spelling mistake
Maybe I'm being paranoid but perhaps A.Net ran some reports over the player base and found that they're either not taking to Nightfall or leaving after it's done?
EDIT: spelling mistake
duverga
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Originally Posted by Thallandor
Greens are the causal players equal of perfectly modded gold items, they are there to provide easy access to max modded items by playing through the game "hopefully" normally, not to fuel the economy.
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natuxatu
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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Hope I get some decent greens my heroes need something beside starter items lol
Good idea imo, will bring chaos to my green baseline pricing guide for a little while though.. |
Thallandor
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Originally Posted by duverga
Odd, I would have said that of collector items, not greens. I don't see how the drop rates of green weapons facilitate "easy access ... by playing through the game". Unless you're referring to the end-game greens obtained from a Book of Secrets of course...
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Spike
Since the drop rate for anything apart from tyiran greens is as close to ZERO as makes no difference it would'nt make a different if they had 50 times as likely weekend you still would'nt get any.
oh and theres a difference between 3 to the power of 0 and 3 times 0. Anything times 0 IS ZERO.
oh and theres a difference between 3 to the power of 0 and 3 times 0. Anything times 0 IS ZERO.
Casserole
A couple of silly quotes already....
Try not passing your opinion off as "cold fact" next time. Online games may always be about vitual ego for you, but not neccessarily for the next player. I have very little need to impress the unwashed masses on Anet. This seems like the same kind of thinking that makes some fools believe that a gold item is better than a blue/purple/white item with the same stats. Another thing, where exactly can I look up this "cold fact" that Anet doesn't have 6 million accounts because of whatever it is you're claiming?
Thank you chicken little, but I don't think the sky is falling just yet. Heaven forbid Anet make greens more available at the expense of farmer's profits...that will just ruin the game. <-sarcasm in case you didn't realize it
I doubt I will partake much in the event simply because my characters are not that deep into the game yet. Plus I am not very impressed with the stats on most of the Elonian greens that I have seen so far, they seem inferior to Canthan greens. I guess I just will have to buck the trend and not give into my supposed vitual ego by getting the fotm skin that so many think is uber. I also don't think this kind of event contradicts Anet's alleged anti-farming stance. If greens become more common, they will likely command a lower price and make them that much less attractive to farm. This may just be a way Anet thinks they can nip Elonian green farming in the bud before it becomes an industry.
I'm not saying that green farming will become an industry or that this event would reduce farming for sure, just an observation. I am not one to roll out my opinions as "cold facts" that are etched in stone and undeniable.
P.S. - Seems like a bad weekend to do this for the GW community because of the Wiki problems. I have no doubt that most people would like to use GuildWiki extensively for farming info. Oh well, here's to hope that the site can be brought back to life!
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Originally Posted by Zakarr
Online games are always about the virtual ego. Majority of people want to show others than they are better. Unfortunately this is a cold fact and the biggest reason why GW doesn't have 6 million accounts.
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Originally Posted by raca137
OMG WTF are you thinking?!?!?!?!. OK that part is out of the way now to why this is a BAD THING.
There is a little thing called enconomy and you are messing with it big time. Nightfall hasnt even been out a full month and you are allready skrewing the pony with this weekend event. Greens should be able to mature with some time ( not less then 3 weeks) so that the vaule of them will stablize. Once they have been around for a while people will except a certin price range for them. Now if you do this at this point in nightfall's life, you can ruin the NF greens forever. We all know once green rate increases price goes down. After this weekend so early in the game, the green prices may never recover. So like greens will be worth like 10-20k a piece and will mess up with the green farmers that use that for their source of making money. PLEASE dont do this now. Wait like a month or two so more people will get further in the game so they will have a chance to get those greens they want/need. Gaile STOP THIS NOW BEFORE IT RUINS THE BRAND NEW NIGHTFALL!!! |
I doubt I will partake much in the event simply because my characters are not that deep into the game yet. Plus I am not very impressed with the stats on most of the Elonian greens that I have seen so far, they seem inferior to Canthan greens. I guess I just will have to buck the trend and not give into my supposed vitual ego by getting the fotm skin that so many think is uber. I also don't think this kind of event contradicts Anet's alleged anti-farming stance. If greens become more common, they will likely command a lower price and make them that much less attractive to farm. This may just be a way Anet thinks they can nip Elonian green farming in the bud before it becomes an industry.
I'm not saying that green farming will become an industry or that this event would reduce farming for sure, just an observation. I am not one to roll out my opinions as "cold facts" that are etched in stone and undeniable.
P.S. - Seems like a bad weekend to do this for the GW community because of the Wiki problems. I have no doubt that most people would like to use GuildWiki extensively for farming info. Oh well, here's to hope that the site can be brought back to life!
WasAGuest
Sounds like fun... oh wait... AI is still dorked! Bring your infi-snares or the mobs will run across the map. 
Sephir Demange
Is there anything on forums people will not complain about? I don't know how many people were around for the release of tyria, and the subsequent months and months, but I for one LOVE the fact that Anet has been keeping weekend events going, no matter how lame they may first appear (extra XP scrolls dropping imo?). No matter what it beats the hell out of the absent parent syndrome that they seemed to have before. The economy will not suffer from this, in fact, it'll go along just fine. Besides, isn't it obvious that Anet dislikes the current state of the economy anyway? Just look at the inscription concept. Basically, you can make the rarest dropped skin in elona a 15^50 perfectly modded piece as long as it's at least a blue drop. Lowering the difficulty in obtaining a perfect item reduces the pseudo value people attach. QQ please, and when you're done, maybe you go out and nab yourself a few greens eh?
pingu666
think ive only ever had 3-4 green drops for myself, since i started playing in feb/march
maybe im unlucky..., but a green for most pve players is a really big rareity to get
and oh noes to prices falling...
maybe im unlucky..., but a green for most pve players is a really big rareity to get
and oh noes to prices falling...
Sirus Dibley
A triple drop weekend so soon ? Sorry anet but that just smacks of desperation. Maybe people are getting bored of single playing Nightfall already......
Cedric
Ever since Anet nerfed farming I have hated them. I hope this pisses people off as much as that update did. It's good that they are giving all the nubs a chance to get greens without spending any time to get them, since we can't farm them anyways! Why don't we all just quit gw and play Final Fantasy 12? We'd have much less of a headache and wouldn't have idiots like anet always screwing everything up.
Cjlr
Just so we're clear:
3 ^ 0 = 1
3 x 0 = 0
That is all.
3 ^ 0 = 1
3 x 0 = 0
That is all.
majoho
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Originally Posted by raca137
Dear any Anet rep that reads this,
Gaile STOP THIS NOW BEFORE IT RUINS THE BRAND NEW NIGHTFALL!!! |
I suppose you mean it ruins it for farmers, why should anyone care about farmers - now regular people have a good chance of getting a green, that seems like a good idea to me.
Rusty Deth
Whats a Ps3?
Desires
Stupid idea just anets way of screwing over experinced players and handing everything to the newbs.
lg5000
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Originally Posted by Desires
Stupid idea just anets way of screwing over experinced players and handing everything to the newbs.
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Btw, I thought greens were put in the game to help the casual player? The non-casual player normally opts for the skin they like + the mods they like rather than a green which can't be changed, right?
Tranquilis
*shrug*
Doesn't bother me any. I've been picking up green drops like candy, and that, in the course of general play. Got two new ones tonight in about two and half hours of play... Some of my chars are now spoiled for choice. My mesemer and my monk now have multiple green weps and/or focii. My Necro has more greens now than he has wep slots available.
Go ahead, drop more greens on me, see if it makes me happier... It won't. Probably won't make me much richer, either, as prices plummet.
*shrug again*
Whatever blows ANet's skirts up, I 'spose.
Doesn't bother me any. I've been picking up green drops like candy, and that, in the course of general play. Got two new ones tonight in about two and half hours of play... Some of my chars are now spoiled for choice. My mesemer and my monk now have multiple green weps and/or focii. My Necro has more greens now than he has wep slots available.
Go ahead, drop more greens on me, see if it makes me happier... It won't. Probably won't make me much richer, either, as prices plummet.
*shrug again*
Whatever blows ANet's skirts up, I 'spose.
Sirus Dibley
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Originally Posted by Desires
Stupid idea just anets way of screwing over experinced players and handing everything to the newbs.
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Avarre
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Stupid idea just anets way of screwing over experinced players and handing everything to the newbs.
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Blackest Rose
What the **** is Anet doing?
On one hand they nerf farming and on the other they increase green drops to encourage it... this doesn't make sense.
What happened at the last green weekend - the place was overrun with 3/4/5 man farming teams?
Anet you need to make up your mind - is farming good or bad?
Where does farming become "bad" farming?
Is solo farming bad? Is 2 man farming bad? Is 3 man farming ok? WTF?
Of course the only difference this time around is that the 3/4 man farming teams will of course be a single player with heroes.
On one hand they nerf farming and on the other they increase green drops to encourage it... this doesn't make sense.
What happened at the last green weekend - the place was overrun with 3/4/5 man farming teams?
Anet you need to make up your mind - is farming good or bad?
Where does farming become "bad" farming?
Is solo farming bad? Is 2 man farming bad? Is 3 man farming ok? WTF?
Of course the only difference this time around is that the 3/4 man farming teams will of course be a single player with heroes.
The Bloodrose
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Originally Posted by Blackest Rose
What the **** is Anet doing?
On one hand they nerf farming and on the other they increase green drops to encourage it... this doesn't make sense. What happened at the last green weekend - the place was overrun with 3/4/5 man farming teams? Anet you need to make up your mind - is farming good or bad? Where does farming become "bad" farming? Is solo farming bad? Is 2 man farming bad? Is 3 man farming ok? WTF? Of course the only difference this time around is that the 3/4 man farming teams will of course be a single player with heroes. |
But now Anet finds itself either losing sales or watching people leave. SO what do they do to try and stop people from leaving, try and tempt us with green farming. All I have to say Anet is "Too little, too late" Fix the motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing real problem, and quit wasting your time, our time with a sugar coating. Thats only a temp. fix and what then? Are you not going to address the real problems and instead, try and keep us hooked with triple/double weekends for the next 5 months?
Oh and Btw - you need to invest in a person that actually talks with the community about real problems. Not one that skirts the issues because they are not "Happy" topics.
Sephiroth Istari
So soon? I haven't broken enough ground to make this event useful enough to me yet.
Desires
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Quite alot of experienced players don't care about greens for money, and wield max rares instead
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gamecube187
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Originally Posted by raca137
Dear any Anet rep that reads this,
OMG WTF are you thinking?!?!?!?!. OK that part is out of the way now to why this is a BAD THING. There is a little thing called enconomy and you are messing with it big time. Nightfall hasnt even been out a full month and you are allready skrewing the pony with this weekend event. Greens should be able to mature with some time ( not less then 3 weeks) so that the vaule of them will stablize. Once they have been around for a while people will except a certin price range for them. Now if you do this at this point in nightfall's life, you can ruin the NF greens forever. We all know once green rate increases price goes down. After this weekend so early in the game, the green prices may never recover. So like greens will be worth like 10-20k a piece and will mess up with the green farmers that use that for their source of making money. PLEASE dont do this now. Wait like a month or two so more people will get further in the game so they will have a chance to get those greens they want/need. Gaile STOP THIS NOW BEFORE IT RUINS THE BRAND NEW NIGHTFALL!!! |
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Originally Posted by Eclair
Most greens are nearly worthless already anyways because of the flag trick that most people do it with ever since Nightfall was released.
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What flag thing? I wana know it before this weekend if it will make farming greens easier!Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing
3 times 0 is zero . .
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[QUOTE=Thallandor]There has been some reports of observations that drop rates have been decreased but this could be likely due to more players playing with Heros+Hench, hence resulting in an illusion of lesser assigned drops, with this 3x weekend, it serves to help players who might like to obtain such of a green item to do so.QUOTE]
No. For me, when I go with heros in any continent, not just Elona, I get about half the drops as when I go with either henchies (no heros, just me and henchies) or players (no heros, just me and other players). Oh, and I've been counting how many items I have before I sell them to the merchant/put them in my storage.I generally get at least double without the heros. Now maybe I'm just really, really, really unlucky when I'm with heros, but I doubt it. Oh well. At least heros made it a lot easier to play when you are just questing or don't feel like playing with other people or things like that.
natuxatu
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Originally Posted by Spike
Since the drop rate for anything apart from tyiran greens is as close to ZERO as makes no difference it would'nt make a different if they had 50 times as likely weekend you still would'nt get any.
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garethporlest18
Well I don't mind about this event, but we find out some things.
People move to slow trying to enjoy so get shafted.
People who don't have time to play the 30 hours it takes to get to the endgame get shafted, but some of them guys are slow too.
Then people who don't care like me and and some others who prefer rares to greens.
People who use greens to make money think they are getting shafted when they aren't because 5 greens for 20k is 100k and that's still quite a bit.
Then there are the people who like this and want the greens (eww greens whether I use them or not i'd use a non perfect gold over greens anytime) for hero's or themselves or are just sucking up to Anet.
People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased. I use greens but I don't like them one bit, I just haven't found anything better and if I do, I will use it over a green any day. Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is...
Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much.
People move to slow trying to enjoy so get shafted.
People who don't have time to play the 30 hours it takes to get to the endgame get shafted, but some of them guys are slow too.
Then people who don't care like me and and some others who prefer rares to greens.
People who use greens to make money think they are getting shafted when they aren't because 5 greens for 20k is 100k and that's still quite a bit.
Then there are the people who like this and want the greens (eww greens whether I use them or not i'd use a non perfect gold over greens anytime) for hero's or themselves or are just sucking up to Anet.
People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased. I use greens but I don't like them one bit, I just haven't found anything better and if I do, I will use it over a green any day. Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is...
Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much.
Shaggeh
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But no, I'm sure it's just a desperation move on A-Net's part. Doing things to keep your fans happy is always a desperation move.
Smokindan
Cool. A better chance of Chor's Axe and Lunto's Pincers dropping in my 10 minute farming run 
Thallandor
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People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased.
Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is... Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much. |
But on the last point i can agree on. At some point, Anet seemed to have changed it stance on "we support legitimate farmers" to the current unsaid anti farming stance which maybe due to several reasons.
-Some in the community complaining about the presence of bot/swearshop farmers farming mino and trolls and asking Anet to act on it.
-Some in the community complaining about high prices of items cause the rich players set the market for those items they are willing to pay for at prices out of reach of most other players.
-Some in the community gloating about how there are gonna all make Dervish/Monks before NF release and single-handedly solo UW/FOW/Elite missions and singlehandedly tank the economy from all their stacks of ectos and what not.
And after all that, did we just expect Anet to sit there quietly and let a small population of the community screw the entire game over for the rest? Some called for actions but dont specify how and consider the consequences. Dont cry when it comes back to smack you in the face.
Sid Soggybottom
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Then there are the people who like this and want the greens (eww greens whether I use them or not i'd use a non perfect gold over greens anytime) for hero's or themselves or are just sucking up to Anet.
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People who like greens kind of annoy me but I'm biased.
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Then again casual players annoy me too cause they seem to have an attitude towards people who "have no lives." But that's a different story for a different time, fact is...
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Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Greens are the easy way out, Anet listens to people who don't like high prices, and they don't listen to people who like to farm because farming is bad apparently because it makes money to afford the armors that they make cost so much.
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