Unique Drop (3 x likely) Weekend Planned - ((Elona Only))

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackest Rose
What the **** is Anet doing?

On one hand they nerf farming and on the other they increase green drops to encourage it... this doesn't make sense.

What happened at the last green weekend - the place was overrun with 3/4/5 man farming teams?
Anet you need to make up your mind - is farming good or bad?
Where does farming become "bad" farming?
Is solo farming bad? Is 2 man farming bad? Is 3 man farming ok? WTF?

Of course the only difference this time around is that the 3/4 man farming teams will of course be a single player with heroes.
Ever think that maybe by experimenting with more frequent Green drops (and possibly gold items) overall that they're discouraging solo farming? I admit that they still havent implemented anything from those "double drop" weekends yet.... but it's a delicate and long process...

But then again, there will be those who yell and scream about more frequent drops destroying the economy...

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
Are you joking? I honestly can't tell. The colour of the item text actually matters to you that much? And people who like greens are sucking up to ANET? Again, I ask...you are joking right?
No I'm not joking. Remember a 20/20 Rare skinned weapon with perfect stats is worth more to me than yourself and a green.



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Huh?! Why?
Because they respond like you just did, you go against my opinion I don't like you. Easy as that.

Seriously though, the same points as above I devalue and dislike all greens and the people that wield them and think they are better than rares.



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?!?!?!?!!!!!??!
Because you say something to them about playing more and maybe they would have more, they say sorry I'm not a no life like you and can't do that. Or I don't have all the time in the world so I should be equal to you. Thing is it's a competitive game, you shouldn't be equal to someone who has more time to play than you that's the way I see it. Equal money/armor/skill wise. Skill as in skill in the game not skills for your class. I've ran into people like that in game and honestly some of you seem like that on this forum and I do judge first when I'm annoyed.




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And this is the point where my head explodes....
Well let me fill you in. Greens are easy because they are already perfect, being the fact that I like things that are worth more than 100k not being perfect already whether it be stupid or not, I call it the easy way out. My opinion you don't agree with it apparently.

Anet does listen to people who don't like high prices, hence 3x green weekend. That is one way to combat it and I'm sure they are thinking the same thing, there is other reasons. The farming nerf to hit botters and what not because of Ebay money and high priced modifiers, no one buys them from them usually anyways cause enough people have enough mods, but still people complain cause they want everything 20k or less.

Anet doesn't listen to farmers by all the nerfs, whether it has a good effect or bad. People don't know whether they like it or not because they confuse with their doings, maybe not to one such as yourself who's so with them.

I like how you say you're not flaming or trolling, when the ?!?!?! and they way you responded to me was a perfect way of showing just that. Good job.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing
3 times 0 is zero . .

You spend too much time on the forums :P
You're wrong.

any number in lifted in ^0 is 1.
^n means multiplied with itself n times.
examples:
3^3 = 3 x 3 x 3 = 27
2^10 = 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 1024
3,34 x 10^10 = 33.400.000.000

etc.

If you wanted to express times 3,

3 x 0 = 0

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
I like how you say you're not flaming or trolling, when the ?!?!?! and they way you responded to me was a perfect way of showing just that. Good job.
I'm sorry but what exactly is the proper way of responding to someone who says "People who like greens are sucking up to ANET" and other outrageous claims? Other than with confusion like I did?

And your post didnt answer anything...

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Desires
I refuse to use them myself but they are a great source of income. Usally a few hundred plat a day. This jsut makes it so all the people without the abilty to farm them get them for next to nothing. I might aswell go back to running people through mission.
You mean you can't exploit people with far less knowledge of the game than you do? You mean you won't make obscene amounts of gold from doing something that doesn't take much, if any, skill to accomplish anymore?

Perhaps you should find another way to make gold rather than running to Kamadan and trying to reel in someone who has little to no clue.

I'm sure everyone's shedding a tear for your type though.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
I'm sorry but what exactly is the proper way of responding to someone who says "People who like greens are sucking up to ANET" and other outrageous claims? Other than with confusion like I did?

And your post didnt answer anything...
This is what the 5th time you misunderstood something I've posted. I said they get them for hero's or themselves or are sucking up to Anet. That or there states that I didn't mean all people who like greens and I was talking about the people who posted in this thread, some of their posts seemed to be sucking up to Anet to me. I don't like Anet's way of dealing with things, I don't like when people suck up to Anet and I don't like when people defend something I feel is bad. I still play their game though because it's fun. I can also contradict myself because I have that power.

The other claims aren't outrageous, where the hell have you been in game? Don't you sit in town and talk to people for 3-5 hours like I do, or play 10+ hours a day like I do? Obviously you know nothing of what I'm speaking if you don't. The other so called "claims" are things I have witnessed in the game, and those statements I made are what I concluded from them.

Honestly Sid what is your problem? You don't like how I talk against this weekend? You accomplish nothing by attacking my posts of an opinion I stated whether it was based on fact or not in your eyes because your opinion doesn't matter to me. So I believe it was fact because I've been there to witness things in the past I see people complaining I see the market and I see peoples reactions to it.

Remember all of it is my opinion, it doesn't have to make sense to you, it doesn't have to be right to you and you don't have to understand it.

Granted I do love this game whether I like the company's actions or not, it's brought a lot to me.

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Don't you sit in town and talk to people for 3-5 hours like I do, or play 10+ hours a day like I do?
No, sorry I don't. I guess you win then.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
No, sorry I don't. I guess you win then.
It's not about winning, it's about you refuting my posts because you don't experience the same thing I do in game.

Menzoberranzan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

Celestial Order

Oh ANet I love you, Green weekends are my absolute favourite

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

I'm not bothered to read the whole thread, but you guys clearly don't see what Anet is nerfing. It's not farming. It's solo and duo-farming they don't like. They enjoy people going in with a group of people trying to get greens. They don't enjoy some guy doing his 71st solorun through uw.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bankai
I'm not bothered to read the whole thread, but you guys clearly don't see what Anet is nerfing. It's not farming. It's solo and duo-farming they don't like. They enjoy people going in with a group of people trying to get greens. They don't enjoy some guy doing his 71st solorun through uw.
Does Anet realize that doesn't make you a good amount of money? You'd have to grind it to get any kind of expensive armor, even if that does include people. But I suppose that's what that armor is suppose to be then, a grind.

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Bingo. Bankai gets it. It's not about nerfing farming, it's about encouraging more people to group. After all the grumblings about heroes destroying Pugging, I thought people would be happy about this.

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Does Anet realize that doesn't make you a good amount of money? You'd have to grind it to get any kind of expensive armor, even if that does include people. But I suppose that's what that armor is suppose to be then, a grind.
What do you think that ANET is doing these triple drop weekends for then?

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
Bingo. Bankai gets it. It's not about nerfing farming, it's about encouraging more people to group. After all the grumblings about heroes destroying Pugging, I thought people would be happy about this.



What do you think that ANET is doing these triple drop weekends for then?
I love grouping up too, but a lot of people know that you can get more if you solo than grouping up with a person. But do you think more people will group up because of this? Or do you think they will still solo and use Hero's and just send them away? Some people will group but I don't think much will change now.

Yeah that makes sense but do you think you can make 1 million off this weekend?

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

I for one am glad they are doing this. Greens should be cheaper. If the economy deflated a lot, people wouldn't need as much gold to do things. It would all balance out. Personally, I am tried of trying to keep my storage above 750k. TYVM ANET.

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Yeah that makes sense but do you think you can make 1 million off this weekend?
Sorry but you lost me. And I've never ever gotten a million in even a year and a half of play....let alone a weekend.... I hope that's just a figure you pulled out of nowhere....

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lets Get to Healing
Ha ha ha, did you read the Factions TRIPLE green drop weekend thread, and decide "Wow, that would be cool to use. 3^0 is zero. Great joke!". Yeah, that's very original.



Like I said in the above, it was times three. They ended up impletmenting the 6v6 HoH that weekend, and promised the green drop would be better. They made it times three.



nope I didnt read that thread, and I was commenting more on the fact that I have yet to get a green so that mutiplying nothing by anything will still give me what I already have---nothing.

Hm, didnt realize they have upped the canthan weekend either....maybe that is why I actually got a few greens that weekend........so maybe I DO stand a minutely tiny chance of getting a green this weekend, if I play at all that is. And are there any good elona greens???

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Let's try and remember why greens were introduced in the first place back in September of 2005. Since Guild Wars is attractive with both PvP and PvE and Anet encourages bringing over PvE characters to play in PvP they introduced a way to help keep the PvE characters competitive with those created for only PvP. Since the PvP characters have access to perfect weapons and it was rather pricey for PvE characters to have comparable items, this was a way to keep the playing field level at a reasonable cost. Of coarse prices started high but they dropped to a more affordable range after a while and were still cheaper then buying all the mods seperatly. Sure, you could get collectors items but they still needed to be modded and we all know how expensive perfect mods use to be back then. Now with the introduction of Heros and having to equip each one seperatly per character, I can see why Anet has done this so soon after the release of Nightfall. Again, you can roll a PvP character and Hero's with perfect items so it only makes sense to give PvE based hero's access to comparable items at a reasonable cost. One could argue why then isn't the drop rate better for green items and I believe it's Anet's way of preserving the integrity of PvE item's while at the same time still making them affordable to those who cross their PvE toons and hero's over to PvP. Anet like's to mix PvE and PvP and this is their way of keeping both sides even on the battlefield.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
Sorry but you lost me. And I've never ever gotten a million in even a year and a half of play....let alone a weekend.... I hope that's just a figure you pulled out of nowhere....
That's a figure for the price of FoW, or near price of it. I was just saying that some people like to get that and have a hard time making money (again that statement comes from what I've seen people say in game), I'm not saying Anet should help them, but they shouldn't take away means to making that money.

This weekend will net people some money, some people more than others, but will it help people gain what they want to buy? It should a little bit. This weekend will help but I dont think it will be enough.

Phoenix Ex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/R

Well...this event is kinda needed since new dervishes and paragons are desperate for good enough weapons.

Thankfully NF has provided plenty of ways to make money. Insignias that are decently priced, rubies and sapphires, new runes.

And for the people that like good stuff to buy, there is the new vabbi armor to add to the fow collection .

Personally I find buy low sell high is actually easier with lower prices since people are much likely to accept a bit higher prices if they need something.

As long as they keep adding more stuff like vabbi armor and white dye/insignia its fine....green ain't exactly prestige compared to gold items and other stuff anyways.

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I for one am glad they are doing this. Greens should be cheaper. If the economy deflated a lot, people wouldn't need as much gold to do things. It would all balance out. Personally, I am tried of trying to keep my storage above 750k. TYVM ANET.
^ must agree with rahja. the reason anet has these types of weekends is to drop prices on all greens and "unique" items so that the masses may have a sniff of them.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysteria
Let's try and remember why greens were introduced in the first place back in September of 2005. Since Guild Wars is attractive with both PvP and PvE and Anet encourages bringing over PvE characters to play in PvP they introduced a way to help keep the PvE characters competitive with those created for only PvP. Since the PvP characters have access to perfect weapons and it was rather pricey for PvE characters to have comparable items, this was a way to keep the playing field level at a reasonable cost. Of coarse prices started high but they dropped to a more affordable range after a while and were still cheaper then buying all the mods seperatly. Sure, you could get collectors items but they still needed to be modded and we all know how expensive perfect mods use to be back then. Now with the introduction of Heros and having to equip each one seperatly per character, I can see why Anet has done this so soon after the release of Nightfall. Again, you can roll a PvP character and Hero's with perfect items so it only makes sense to give PvE based hero's access to comparable items at a reasonable cost. One could argue why then isn't the drop rate better for green items and I believe it's Anet's way of preserving the integrity of PvE item's while at the same time still making them affordable to those who cross their PvE toons and hero's over to PvP. Anet like's to mix PvE and PvP and this is their way of keeping both sides even on the battlefield.
Is there any reason now to use PvE characters in PvP ?

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

Well, I'm going to be watching a football game on Saturday.

I am enjoying Nightfall and like it a lot better than Factions.

Don't have any problem with the 3x green weekend. But would like to know the real reason they seem to be so against farming. I think there could be better ways to fix it than to turn it off alltogether. If I get some greens this weekend fine, my hero's could use them or I'll sell them. Perhaps I'll find something new and different that everyone will want. I can't believe there aren't a few suprizes out there in Elona. As a matter of fact wouldn't it fry everyone if there were some special items out there just for this weekend.

Actually I was hoping for another capping weekend.

CrystalM

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bankai
I'm not bothered to read the whole thread, but you guys clearly don't see what Anet is nerfing. It's not farming. It's solo and duo-farming they don't like. They enjoy people going in with a group of people trying to get greens. They don't enjoy some guy doing his 71st solorun through uw.
"You" clearly don't see what Anet is nerfing. It IS nerfing farming.

Anet could easily nerf protective spirit or put in more enchant removing nightmares or make npcs in these farming places more aggresively attack if only 1 or 2 players without heroes or hench are in that area. This could have been done a long time ago. Or even change the way runes work, one simple change and no more using runes to 55 or things of that nature.

But yes I guess there is no way for AI-Anet to stop only solo or dual farming instead they have to nerf all farming in all forms, and nerf alot of fun in the process. They have nerfed farming, and continue each update to do so.

And why do we need a special weekend to get Ok drops, when we should be getting Ok drops in the first place.

If you read this whole reply here you could see how easy it would be for Anet to change a few simple things to nerf Only Solo and Duo but yet it is not done, instead changes are made that nerf all farming. And just what is wrong with Solo or Duo farming? No matter how much we farm or dont farm, I can guarantee the botters and ebayfarmers will still be selling gold and still finding ways to farm in one form or another while regular farming is nerfed with more fun being nerfed as well for regular players.

Eilsys

Eilsys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

United States

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by raca137
Dear any Anet rep that reads this,
So like greens will be worth like 10-20k a piece and will mess up with the green farmers that use that for their source of making money.
That's horrible! New players won't have to pay 40k for a spear they can farm in 10 minutes!

bizarresk

bizarresk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

wohooo lotsa greens.. much work for my solo ele :P

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

I would put more priority first in helping new gamers get the gear they need, before helping experienced farmers make that extra 40k.

Drop more greens. Make the triple green drop event a week or two long.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

*sigh*, I can't find any greens I happen want on guildwiki.

I had Suli's scythe drop while doing the main story so there is my zealous scythe. I used a hench team and got one I can not even come close to spelling correctly (Esebehts or something like that - +30 vampiric scythe). I have the bonus pack scythe also. There is my three weapon slots (fourth is a longbow for pulling).

I also had a nice gold spear and a purple shield from chests that my Paragon uses. I would rather have a low req gold in the stats I want than a green anyway.

All my other characters are old and already have their items.

Ah well, I'll find something I want to try for if for nothing more than my heroes equipping them. I can probably use an axe or shield from somewhere. It's hard to find better wands/foci than the ones you can craft at the end of the luxon/kurzic areas so not terribly interested in them. Not that I'm complaining, triple greens is a nice thing, I really wish I had just waited a bit before trying to get the vampiric green scythe.

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

I've gotten so used to missing out on special weeked events that this doesn't phase me anymore. lol (Even if collecting greens is one of the things I really enjoy in my spare time).

I agree with everyone who mentioned that this "green event" came a bit early for a chapter that just came out less than a month ago. But it's cool; the only real event I'm looking forward to is Wintersday.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'm also looking forward to the Winter event. I'm taking it easy and hopefully there will be more green drop weekend events.

PanGammon

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

They sort of killed the weekend event thing. It happens so much that I just let it pass me by..........

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

Maybe I will actually get some greens this weekend, I have been playing since the release and I have gotten 1 green. We shall see

sabretalon

sabretalon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Saints Or Sinners [SOS]

N/W

I have the greens I NEED just now so if any do drop for me then yay to me!

I will just play as normal and see how it goes!

As for the farming bit, I still farm when I need money but I seem to be earning money quite easily in NF? Not farmed for a while, but then again I have not spent a lot of money out on other armours yet!

I'm just waiting for their 5x chance of a max rare dropping weekend!

Rusty Deth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Woodland Realm

Mo/N

They nerfed all farming?

If so, how did I farm on Sunday to buy a black dye? I must have imagined it.

Also I thought "green farmers" would be complaining about the collector items towards the end of Nightfall, since alot of them either have green stats, or are two mods away from being one.

I guess they didn't get that far yet.

Oh on a side note my guildmate got 2 greens in Elona in a week. Just us two and 6 hero's, must be the lucky title.

Skids

Skids

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK FTW

R/Mo

What agreat way to get people to rush through the game so they can get to where the decent bosses are. This is too soon Anet!!

/end sarcasm.

How about a Quadruple gemstone weekend first so we can get some decent armour?? In the 1.5 odd years Ive played this game Ive only had 1 x ruby drop, and none in Nightfall so far.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

OH NOES!

TEH ECONOMIES ARE TEH DOOMZORZ@!

OMGOMGOMGOMGOM GOMGOMGOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGMGOMGOGMGOGMGOMGOGMGO GMGOMGOGMGOMGOGMGOMGOGMGOGMGOGMGOGMOGMGOGKJGOGMGOM GGOM

Yeah.I'm a little late.Your point?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

As if green drops were hard to get in Nightfall.....

Well at least this should help equip heros.

^_^ everyone seems to be complaining about not being able to get weapons/runes for their heroes. Heres your weapons.

Greens should always be the cheap but effective alternative. And theres some cute greens in Elona.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

it doesnt matter making them drop tons now as they will all be worth nothing in a month or so time. just gota look at all those proph and factions greens worth nothing.

doesnt make any difference to me as i dont use greens and never will

if it helps people get nice greens so they dont need to farm tons then it is a good thing. if people want to buy expensive l337 stuff then buy golds.

Shaggeh

Shaggeh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Misanthropes

W/N

Quote:
What agreat way to get people to rush through the game so they can get to where the decent bosses are. This is too soon Anet!!
There are bosses that drop decent greens that are available as soon as you get to the mainland, which even the most casual NF player should have hit by now.

We don't need to wait for every duck to cross the line.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

Well, with the release of insignias + weapon mods, greens just aren't what they used to be. You can totally mod an elonian weapon to match the stats of almost any green out there now.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

For this to have an effect on prices the greens have to drop in the first place and since the odds are about 20,000 to 1 of geting one. 3x is not going to make a lot of difference. I killed 50 bosses the other day in elona and the grand total of drops was 67 gold and a blue spear 11-22 with +10 vs hexed foes. I can get better results from farming charr.