130 HP Boss Farming Dervish
Etrik
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Originally Posted by Nokkers
you need prophecies to get essence bond and balthazar's spirit. BS can be picked up at Lions Arch and EB at Beetletun.
If you have EB unlocked, you can get it at LA 
And people - for the love of God - vote on guildwiki.
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And people - for the love of God - vote on guildwiki.
Here is the build and this is the discussion page, where you can vote for favoured/unfavoured. Please vote so we can get it out of the untested builds section.
??Ripskin
I'm having some troubles with this...
I can do this easily with dp. But that takes too long and racks up deaths way too fast.
I keep lining up the enemies so I'm hitting every one of them but still dying. Do I need to buy armor with no hp bonus at all or something? I think I might just be doing something wrong.
I can do this easily with dp. But that takes too long and racks up deaths way too fast.
I keep lining up the enemies so I'm hitting every one of them but still dying. Do I need to buy armor with no hp bonus at all or something? I think I might just be doing something wrong.
RebelHero
Awesome build. One minor thing I would change though:
Original Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
11+3(14) Scythe Mastery
9+3+1(13) Earth Prayers
6+3(9) Mysticism
New Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
10+1+3(14) Scythe Mastery
10+3(13) Earth Prayers
7+3(10) Mysticism (or wherever you want so 6+3(9) and one or two extra ranks in wind prayers)
Its just is more efficient in attribute point use.
Original Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
11+3(14) Scythe Mastery
9+3+1(13) Earth Prayers
6+3(9) Mysticism
New Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
10+1+3(14) Scythe Mastery
10+3(13) Earth Prayers
7+3(10) Mysticism (or wherever you want so 6+3(9) and one or two extra ranks in wind prayers)
Its just is more efficient in attribute point use.
Etrik
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Originally Posted by «Ripskin
I can do this easily with dp. But that takes too long and racks up deaths way too fast.
I keep lining up the enemies so I'm hitting every one of them but still dying. Do I need to buy armor with no hp bonus at all or something? I think I might just be doing something wrong.
. Quote: Originally Posted by RebelHero
Awesome build. One minor thing I would change though:
Original Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
11+3(14) Scythe Mastery
9+3+1(13) Earth Prayers
6+3(9) Mysticism
New Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
10+1+3(14) Scythe Mastery
10+3(13) Earth Prayers
7+3(10) Mysticism (or wherever you want so 6+3(9) and one or two extra ranks in wind prayers)
Its just is more efficient in attribute point use. Where's the change in that? O_o You still get as much energy from Enchants ending and Mystic Vigor still only heals you for 5/enchantment. I see no reason, other than having less spare points (tho you can get that down to 0 if you put 3 in Wind Prayers). I'm not even sure you can get 10 Mysticism.
Original Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
11+3(14) Scythe Mastery
9+3+1(13) Earth Prayers
6+3(9) Mysticism
New Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
10+1+3(14) Scythe Mastery
10+3(13) Earth Prayers
7+3(10) Mysticism (or wherever you want so 6+3(9) and one or two extra ranks in wind prayers)
Its just is more efficient in attribute point use. Where's the change in that? O_o You still get as much energy from Enchants ending and Mystic Vigor still only heals you for 5/enchantment. I see no reason, other than having less spare points (tho you can get that down to 0 if you put 3 in Wind Prayers). I'm not even sure you can get 10 Mysticism.
littlenub113
Hey guys im new to this game so i dont really know much about this thing called "farming" but can u guys tell me whats the difference between using this build to kill the boss and using other kind of builds, and why do i have do die before killing some of the bosses and does "soloing" means i have to go alone or i can bring heroes and henches thank you
Francis Crawford
"Farming" really means "hunting". You kill things for profit.
People in this forum overwhelmingly favor and focus on builds where your character goes truly solo. There are a few exceptions in very high-end zones such as the Underworld. I tried starting a thread on more general hero-aided farming and it seems to have fizzled.
People in this forum overwhelmingly favor and focus on builds where your character goes truly solo. There are a few exceptions in very high-end zones such as the Underworld. I tried starting a thread on more general hero-aided farming and it seems to have fizzled.
novawhiz
This looks sweet, but my Dervish isnt far in game.
Im still stuck at Jokunar Diggings. O well, when i get farther ill try it out.
Im still stuck at Jokunar Diggings. O well, when i get farther ill try it out.
Etrik
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Originally Posted by littlenub113
Hey guys im new to this game so i dont really know much about this thing called "farming" but can u guys tell me whats the difference between using this build to kill the boss and using other kind of builds, and why do i have do die before killing some of the bosses and does "soloing" means i have to go alone or i can bring heroes and henches thank you
Farming means going out into an explorable area and killing a number of enemies, zoning to an outpost and doing it all over again. Solo farming means you go out alone, no other people, no henchies, no heroes. The difference between other builds and this one is that this one can solo alot of areas. Also, you sometimes have to suicide to accumulate Death Penalty and lower your HP to below 130. When you have 130 HP and Protective Spirit on, you take maximum 13 damage every time you are hit. That, however, means that if you get hit 15 times in a time frame of 1 second, you die. Because you get hit for 13x15=195 damage while Mystic Regeneration will only heal you for 30 health/second. So you take a total of 195-30=165 damage, while your health is 130, meaning you die.
If you have 58 hp (the amount of health left after you die once), and get hit 15 times in a time frame of 1 second or less, you will get hit for 5x15=75 damage, whereas Mystic Regeneration will heal you for 30. Thus, you take 75-30=45 damage and have 58 hp, so you don't die. You also get healed by Mystic Vigor.
Hope that cleared things up for you.
If you have 58 hp (the amount of health left after you die once), and get hit 15 times in a time frame of 1 second or less, you will get hit for 5x15=75 damage, whereas Mystic Regeneration will heal you for 30. Thus, you take 75-30=45 damage and have 58 hp, so you don't die. You also get healed by Mystic Vigor.
Hope that cleared things up for you.
darkdawn
could this build works withoud those 2 proph. spell?
i only own faction and NF so... any idea of skills hat could replace these?
anyway great build. looks great
i only own faction and NF so... any idea of skills hat could replace these?
anyway great build. looks great
??Ripskin
Alright.. I agro a group with ps and mystic regen on...
I group them up the best I can and put on vigor.. I attack the queen and usually die right after that.
And um.. this is to chor.. lunto.. behdi... (I must suck at this.. my first solo green farm.)
I group them up the best I can and put on vigor.. I attack the queen and usually die right after that.
And um.. this is to chor.. lunto.. behdi... (I must suck at this.. my first solo green farm.)
lennymon
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Originally Posted by «Ripskin
Alright.. I agro a group with ps and mystic regen on...
I group them up the best I can and put on vigor.. I attack the queen and usually die right after that.
And um.. this is to chor.. lunto.. behdi... (I must suck at this.. my first solo green farm.) That'd be right about 3 secs after your prot spirit has expired then.... the hardest part of farming with a lowhp/PS build is learning the timing.
I group them up the best I can and put on vigor.. I attack the queen and usually die right after that.
And um.. this is to chor.. lunto.. behdi... (I must suck at this.. my first solo green farm.) That'd be right about 3 secs after your prot spirit has expired then.... the hardest part of farming with a lowhp/PS build is learning the timing.
Nokkers
with the minimal amount of energy pool (25) you can cast PS, MR, and MV at the same time, then run in and aggro. usually i target the boss and just concentrate on him, unless there's a healer nearby. PS will usually run out first, so re-cast it when you see it flashing. most of the time you wont even need MV, but its still good to have and its only 5e to cast anyways.
On a side note, you can add Exuro Flatus to the list. He goes down quite easily actually. Just gotta watch out for the patrolling shadow groups to the side.
On a side note, you can add Exuro Flatus to the list. He goes down quite easily actually. Just gotta watch out for the patrolling shadow groups to the side.
??Ripskin
Dude I've been farming before you were born. 55-ing even. This is just new to me.
And I can farm everything in marga now except for buhba or whatever without dying.
And I can farm everything in marga now except for buhba or whatever without dying.
Ecksor
Please don't start any arguing in this thread. Take it to a PM.
CRAzY KeeSTeR
any way to use this in uw??
any skills combos to counter the aataxes evading with ripostes??
hook me up with an uw build if u can figure 1 out
any skills combos to counter the aataxes evading with ripostes??
hook me up with an uw build if u can figure 1 out
Etrik
I'll have to try him, Nokkers.
And Ripskin, if you want to be arrogant, go on. But don't expect anyone to help when you bitch at people for trying to help you out, okay? And you might wanna re-read people's responses to your post, nobody said you're young or anything of the sort, so the 'farming before you were born. 55-ing even' part of your post is plain arrogance. Also, how have you been 55-ing before I was born? I'm farily certain GW's only been out for 2 years, not 19. I also can still not comprehend how you simply always died ;_;.
Wow, some people.
Keep voting on wiki people. And, Ecksor, I'd rather he not PM me. I've also voted on the wiki page, because I technically can vote.. I only posted the build, I'm not it's creator. And, iirc, only creators may not vote [or alt accounts of theirs].
Keester, just attack em again? Their Ripostes have an adrenal cost/10-s recharge, so they're not easily spammable. Don't chain alot of skills though - they WILL interrupt them. Thing is, I don't know if you can take on the Grasping Darknesses. May aswell give it a shot, but if too many are attacking, at the rate at which they attack, it's pretty brutal. Gonna try that too later
And Ripskin, if you want to be arrogant, go on. But don't expect anyone to help when you bitch at people for trying to help you out, okay? And you might wanna re-read people's responses to your post, nobody said you're young or anything of the sort, so the 'farming before you were born. 55-ing even' part of your post is plain arrogance. Also, how have you been 55-ing before I was born? I'm farily certain GW's only been out for 2 years, not 19. I also can still not comprehend how you simply always died ;_;.
Wow, some people.
Keep voting on wiki people. And, Ecksor, I'd rather he not PM me. I've also voted on the wiki page, because I technically can vote.. I only posted the build, I'm not it's creator. And, iirc, only creators may not vote [or alt accounts of theirs].
Keester, just attack em again? Their Ripostes have an adrenal cost/10-s recharge, so they're not easily spammable. Don't chain alot of skills though - they WILL interrupt them. Thing is, I don't know if you can take on the Grasping Darknesses. May aswell give it a shot, but if too many are attacking, at the rate at which they attack, it's pretty brutal. Gonna try that too later
littlenub113
thx Etrik for clearing this up for me now i understand somewhat and i have one more request, can some one post the ultimate build for this with only the skills from the nightfall version cause thats the only one i have thank you
CRAzY KeeSTeR
well for energy management for ppl without prophecies maybe for ur elite run zealous vow??
with10 in wind i think its 4 energy per hit foe but -4 regen but still if u hit 3 foes that 12 energy +zealous scythe= 15 eenrgy if u hit 3 foes and at 14 i think it is in wind u get 5 energy per hit +zealous mod= 18 energy if u hit 3 ppl
so that is fairly good energy management i think i havent tested this so i dunno but its only a suggestion for those of u w/o prophecies
i may cap zealous vow and try the build with it as it will free up 2 spots on my bar that could be used for other skills
if any1 tries this b4 plz say how it went
with10 in wind i think its 4 energy per hit foe but -4 regen but still if u hit 3 foes that 12 energy +zealous scythe= 15 eenrgy if u hit 3 foes and at 14 i think it is in wind u get 5 energy per hit +zealous mod= 18 energy if u hit 3 ppl
so that is fairly good energy management i think i havent tested this so i dunno but its only a suggestion for those of u w/o prophecies
i may cap zealous vow and try the build with it as it will free up 2 spots on my bar that could be used for other skills
if any1 tries this b4 plz say how it went
CRAzY KeeSTeR
hey well i just killed several aataxes using the normal build but i took out eremites attack and added mirage cloak to counter their spike dmg and also to prevent as many interrupts especially of prot spirit but i can definitely say it works it takes awhile but it works only problem i see is the nightmares
i brought a +15% dmg while enchanted +20% dmg customised protective rod to kill the nightmares from a distance it works but it u dont recognze em early enuff they can kill u very easily if u dont get off a perfectly time prot spirit cast after they rend u
dont know how it would do vs grasping darknesses and smite crawlers but im wondering if vow of silence might be in order???
i brought a +15% dmg while enchanted +20% dmg customised protective rod to kill the nightmares from a distance it works but it u dont recognze em early enuff they can kill u very easily if u dont get off a perfectly time prot spirit cast after they rend u
dont know how it would do vs grasping darknesses and smite crawlers but im wondering if vow of silence might be in order???
CRAzY KeeSTeR
oops thought my above post hadnt come thru so i retyped it oh but i guess it did ... my bad
ogami_ito
OK. Tried this last night. Never did 55 farming before so it took me about an hour or more to get the hang of how this works. More difficult than warrior Cyclone Axe/Live Vicariously type farming for sure. However, I’m disappointed…none of those Marga coast bosses dropped a green. And I’m really really trying to get Bubahl’s drop…a cool-looking earth-damage scythe.
I tried it with the undead mass in the Vahlen the Silent, but the enchants WERE definitely stripped. I tried incorporating Vow of Silence…does not work. IF I could do this area, I would swap out Reapers Sweep for Heart of Holy Flame…double damage against undead
I tried hidden city. Its much tougher and nothing good dropped, but I only got throught the first section.
Can anyone suggested easier places to use this that will produce money?
I tried it with the undead mass in the Vahlen the Silent, but the enchants WERE definitely stripped. I tried incorporating Vow of Silence…does not work. IF I could do this area, I would swap out Reapers Sweep for Heart of Holy Flame…double damage against undead
I tried hidden city. Its much tougher and nothing good dropped, but I only got throught the first section.
Can anyone suggested easier places to use this that will produce money?
??Ripskin
lol I never argue. Or flame. It's too immature for me. I'm just making a point.
CRAzY KeeSTeR
im gunna say u need balthazars spirit and essence bond i tested it with zealous vow and a nada u gotta cast too much and spread ur attributes out alot if some1 else wants to try and come up with an all nightfall build like this using zealous its prolly possible just i ddint have much luck or i just havent gotten used to it yet
Etrik
Zealous Vow is really the only option for NF-only characters, sadly.
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i brought a +15% dmg while enchanted +20% dmg customised protective rod to kill the nightmares from a distance it works but it u dont recognze em early enuff they can kill u very easily if u dont get off a perfectly time prot spirit cast after they rend u
dont know how it would do vs grasping darknesses and smite crawlers but im wondering if vow of silence might be in order???
I'm gonna try an UW run later.. tho you definately need to make small pulls - 8 smites would simply rape you if you lag for as much as 1/2 second and don't get that Mystic Sweep off for the healing from Vigor. Meh
Quote: Originally Posted by ogami_ito OK. Tried this last night. Never did 55 farming before so it took me about an hour or more to get the hang of how this works. More difficult than warrior Cyclone Axe/Live Vicariously type farming for sure. However, I’m disappointed…none of those Marga coast bosses dropped a green. And I’m really really trying to get Bubahl’s drop…a cool-looking earth-damage scythe. It is definately not harder than warrior farming... and just fyi, no item is a guaranteed drop. None.
Quote: Originally Posted by ogami_ito I tried it with the undead mass in the Vahlen the Silent, but the enchants WERE definitely stripped. I tried incorporating Vow of Silence…does not work. IF I could do this area, I would swap out Reapers Sweep for Heart of Holy Flame…double damage against undead The only way you can have an enchantment removed is via Rending Sweep if you have Hexes on, but that never happened to me >.< And I don't know about swapping Reaper's, might be a good idea. Sub Eremite's and Reaper's out for Heart and Wounding Strike? :/
Quote: Originally Posted by ogami_ito I tried hidden city. Its much tougher and nothing good dropped, but I only got throught the first section. It is most certainly not hard. I find it too easy - the only hard part is the Paragon boss', and maybe the Dervish boss' groups - too many Ethers, but it's doable.
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Well...something is removing the enchants when I go there. And it gets removed quick. As far as what you can use here...just saying that if you sub out Reapers for Heart of Holy Fury, then each of your attacks will do 2X against the undead, plus the enchants AOE, which does 100 armor ignoring damage against undead.
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Sorry, but I never farm Vermins, so don't be so aggressive please ...|
Originally Posted by ogami_ito
Can anyone suggested easier places to use this that will produce money?
Those are the best places. Please, don't have a 'Why didn't I get 5 golds and 2 greens on my first run through Region A??????' mentality, it won't help you, you'll only be downed by it. Farming in online games means doing something repeatedly in order to get goodies. Repeatedly being the key word there.
The only way you can have an enchantment removed is via Rending Sweep if you have Hexes on, but that never happened to me >.< And I don't know about swapping Reaper's, might be a good idea. Sub Eremite's and Reaper's out for Heart and Wounding Strike? :/
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Yes it is. Warrior cyclone axe/bonnettis/live voracious farm trolls and vermin nets $$$, and if very very easy and quick. Against those mobs. This 130 Derv farming seems to be able to handle more types of mobs though. But if you miss your protective spirit cast, you are DEAD.
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Eremite's Attack is a 3/4-sec cast. If you need a sudden boost of health from Mystic Vigor, just use Eremite's/Mystic. That's why Eremite's is better|
Originally Posted by Etrik
Those are the best places. Please, don't have a 'Why didn't I get 5 golds and 2 greens on my first run through Region A??????' mentality, it won't help you, you'll only be downed by it. Farming in online games means doing something repeatedly in order to get goodies. Repeatedly being the key word there.
I will try more of course. Its fun. I just wanted... betterresults. I think its too early to tell if those are the best places though. There are many other areas in Factions and Prophesies to consider.
Michel Longshorts
Question: Why Eremite's attack? Surely I thought Victorious Sweep would be the better option. While you can do +30 damage while you have 3+ adjacent creatures you are fighting, with victorious sweep you will have a steady +29 damage no matter the numbers. Costs same energy and same recharge.
Just had a run which made this build incredibly promising for me 
ogami_ito
Wooooohoooooo!
 edit: how the frig do I get the image to appear in the post instead of as an attachment?
Cuthalion
Does this build works on Vermins ?
Jelloblimp
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Originally Posted by Cuthalion
Does this build works on Vermins ?
Do vermins health steal? Do they strip enchantments? Do they heal themselves alot?
If you answered no on all 3 questions its doable.
Cuthalion
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Originally Posted by Jelloblimp
Do vermins health steal? Do they strip enchantments? Do they heal themselves alot?
If you answered no on all 3 questions its doable. Sorry, but I never farm Vermins, so don't be so aggressive please ...
Railin
I've been using this build for a few runs now. No drops yet though. The only thing that's really annoying is the groups of Storm Jaricanda or whatever that keep knocking you down. How do you avoid that? I pull them away but they just keep "slowly" coming closer to me and eventually aggro.
Etrik
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Originally Posted by Michel Longshorts
Just had a run which made this build incredibly promising for me http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...d=11653253 20 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Railin I've been using this build for a few runs now. No drops yet though. The only thing that's really annoying is the groups of Storm Jaricanda or whatever that keep knocking you down. How do you avoid that? I pull them away but they just keep "slowly" coming closer to me and eventually aggro. Use PS just as you get LSurge on you, take the elementalists out first?
Quote: Originally Posted by ogami_ito
Yes it is. Warrior cyclone axe/bonnettis/live voracious farm trolls and vermin nets $$$, and if very very easy and quick. Against those mobs. This 130 Derv farming seems to be able to handle more types of mobs though. But if you miss your protective spirit cast, you are DEAD.
This build is just as easy and quick, if you know how to use it. And don't miss your PS cast then ^_^
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About Vermin… someone should try it there. But also note that Vermin have knock-down, so I think you would need to sub-out Reaper’s Sweep for some anti-knock-down skill. Otherwise, you will be on the ground for like 10 seconds.
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Originally Posted by ogami_ito
Well...something is removing the enchants when I go there. And it gets removed quick. As far as what you can use here...just saying that if you sub out Reapers for Heart of Holy Fury, then each of your attacks will do 2X against the undead, plus the enchants AOE, which does 100 armor ignoring damage against undead.
Sounds like bad luck on your side/good luck on mine. I rarely found both Thought Leeches and the Dervish mummies. Try zoning till you get a lucky spawn? And 100 AI damage/double damage won't help if you die, will it
Who is not being friendly?
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I can put that in the Variants section on guildwiki. Hang on, I'll do that in a sec. And
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Quote: Originally Posted by ogami_ito Vermin farming is basically doing AOE damage to many many low-lvl mobs that drop cash. But this Dervish build only does AOE to maximum three targets. To me, it seems that killing a few Djini’s in Forgotten City and in Mirror of Something (outside Honor Hill…and I’m at work now so I don’t know the name) gives about 300-400 gold a during a 10 minute run, and there is a lot of variance as to what drops. On the other hand, my average Vermin run for me is about 25 minutes (with a rezone) and usually nets about 2000 gold. But vermin runs never drop any good items. Vermins come in packs of 3-5 usually. So it's np if you only hit 3 at a time, it's still good enough and faster than most builds
. And in 25 minutes in the Hidden City of Ahdashim I generally get 1 Vabbian key, 2k, 1 purp, 1 gold, alot of essences and purple/gold armors. Not to mention Jeweled Daggers that salvage to rubies/sapphires ^^Quote: Originally Posted by ogami_ito
I wonder though…there is a warrior boss in the Jade Sea area that drops a sword (never dropped for me though) that this build can probably take on… I’ve killed him with a Grenths Touch warrior build, but this build would most probably work much better. His name is Ssasi or something like that. You would need to pull him with a bow because there are some spell casters in his group (don’t know about mesmers / necros though). And if he does not drop a green, will not much profit.
Sskai, Dragon's Birth. I'm not sure you can farm him with the mobs pounding on you, the ritualists use a spirit that does armor-ignoring damage [Destruction], an item spell that does armor-ignoring damage when dropped and a weapon spell that steals life. So, you'll have to pull him. Tho I'm not sure. If you haven't died at all, you might be able to do it.
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I wonder also about killing the Arrahhsh Mountainclub can be soled… I don’t think there were any enchant removals there.
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