130 HP Boss Farming Dervish

Fallen Hunter

Fallen Hunter

I Saw That

Join Date: Mar 2006

The bushes

D/R

Well, this build works well for me. Two things I have had trouble with -
*Marobeh Sharptail - just can't kill him. I can kill the group around him, but I can just keep attacking him until the cows come home - he won't die.
*Zehnelun Fastfoot - I can't kill the group on the path to him. A few seconds after I begin attacking I lose all my enchantments and die. Perhaps you have to take an alternative path there?

Timson

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lords of Cat

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallen Hunter
*Marobeh Sharptail - just can't kill him. I can kill the group around him, but I can just keep attacking him until the cows come home - he won't die.
Don't kill the group around him, they give you energy everytime they hit you. And you need the energy to beat him with the attack skills.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallen Hunter
*Zehnelun Fastfoot - I can't kill the group on the path to him. A few seconds after I begin attacking I lose all my enchantments and die. Perhaps you have to take an alternative path there? I always go towards the shrine and go up to the left around the rock there. And then i'll try to lure him off from the other spiders. And then he is realy easy.

captainccc

captainccc

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

East Coast =D

Various GvG Guilds...Always Moving

Mo/

Hi. I used this build from level 18 to 20 and got 6 greens from it. Very nice. Takes about 2 runs to get used to but after that its very easy and fast. Recommended to any 55 fans, you will love it!



Edit: Something I want to add. With the groups that have monks, I learned to do this: Gather the foes around the monk so you can AoE them all. The monk will have so much trouble trying to heal the others while you AoE they run out of energy and get preoccupied. With 3 scythe skills you can take them down easier.

Fallen Hunter

Fallen Hunter

I Saw That

Join Date: Mar 2006

The bushes

D/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timson
I always go towards the shrine and go up to the left around the rock there. And then i'll try to lure him off from the other spiders. And then he is realy easy. I can't get up to the boss or his group - I can't kill the ntoukas. I put all my enchants on, attack and then die instantly. For some reason chilling victory does full damage to me and kills me in less than a second. I tried avoiding them by going around throught the heket, but this is a huge amount of trouble and the heket are time consuming and difficult to kill. How do you manage to kill the Ntouka group?

Timson

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lords of Cat

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallen Hunter
I can't get up to the boss or his group - I can't kill the ntoukas. I put all my enchants on, attack and then die instantly. For some reason chilling victory does full damage to me and kills me in less than a second. I tried avoiding them by going around throught the heket, but this is a huge amount of trouble and the heket are time consuming and difficult to kill. How do you manage to kill the Ntouka group? Oh sorry, I got it all mixed up. But now i see.
I thought that you needed help to kill the boss and all his minions. But now I know what the problem is. Sorry.

When Im going to Fastfoots location the key is to run past the first group. Put all your enchantments on, then just run trough. Becouse they have the same speed as you, so they will never get the chance to attack you when you have got past them.

DAS Achilles

DAS Achilles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

[GODS]

so i used the build and its great but nightbringer is never there...if ne1 knows y plz tell me!

Timson

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lords of Cat

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAS Achilles
so i used the build and its great but nightbringer is never there...if ne1 knows y plz tell me! He spawns as an ambush (not visible until approached) at the South East entrance to Mahnkelon Waterworks.

deve8uk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

N/A

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timson
Don't kill the group around him, they give you energy everytime they hit you. And you need the energy to beat him with the attack skills.


I always go towards the shrine and go up to the left around the rock there. And then i'll try to lure him off from the other spiders. And then he is realy easy. I think hes having the same issue as me. I target sharptail and bunch the Mobs about him and they all die but he dont get touched.

Timson

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lords of Cat

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by deve8uk
I think hes having the same issue as me. I target sharptail and bunch the Mobs about him and they all die but he dont get touched. Try to get him alone on one side and the others on the otherside so they dont die. it worked fine for me.

Glints Bane

Glints Bane

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I sleep

The Almond Brothers [Bros]

N/

This build sounds good cant wait to try it out.

raylan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

-off topic- ^nice guild tag Glint's Bane :P

i have the same problem with sharptail... i don't seem able to do enough damage to kill him.

anyway i think this build works at some bosses at cantha too, i am gonna try out although their greens don't cost as much as they used to do <(X_x)>

master of cookies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

order of clerics

P/

ok so ive bin thinking of getting a dervish for a while. got nf at Christmas and started with paragon. ive already got him to dasha etc but i wanna know is there any shorter ways to there or do u have to do all the primary quests and then missions? and also from which lvl do u think this build would work providing i can unlock needed skills and use a different skill instead of the elite? great build cant wait to try it.

Another Dervish

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Armies Of The Night [YAG]

D/Mo

EDIT: Fixed my problem with getting the health low enough, but i need to know is it essential to have those skills (cant remember them fully) that were only accessible in proph... i got factions and nf (im fairly new to nightfall u see :S)

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

You need to put 5 superiors on. You need a copy of one you already have on the last piece of armor.

Another Dervish

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Armies Of The Night [YAG]

D/Mo

kk done that bit, got all perfect but havent got proph
Can i really farm with this build without those bits :?

Ghee Warmaster

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Seeker of Valor

W/Mo

Just a quick question. (I'm not sure if it was answered already) Do you need max armor for this build or do you use the least armor (like 55's)

raylan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

i use kamadan armor for this build or at least i think so

Joe L.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

USA

R/

First off, thanks to the OP, this build is amazing. Alot of fun and very effective. Now for my question. Does Jerneh Nightbringer still spawn in Marga Coast like in the original screens, and the one video, I believe on pg. 3?

I found him with ease by the waterworks, but cannot find him at all in the Coast. Thanks in advance for the help.

neocodex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mutants [MU]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghee Warmaster
Just a quick question. (I'm not sure if it was answered already) Do you need max armor for this build or do you use the least armor (like 55's) It's not necesary but I would strongly suggest using a max armor in case your prot spirit ever runs out, you can still take a few hits this way.

Abyss1

Abyss1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Holland

Newbies 'R Us [NRU]

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe L.
First off, thanks to the OP, this build is amazing. Alot of fun and very effective. Now for my question. Does Jerneh Nightbringer still spawn in Marga Coast like in the original screens, and the one video, I believe on pg. 3?

I found him with ease by the waterworks, but cannot find him at all in the Coast. Thanks in advance for the help. No he no longer spawns in the coast only waterworks.

m4rk6

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Older Gamers

D/

Thanks to the OP for coming up with the build.

Few questions though:
How do you deal with Neoli or any mesmer boss who strips enchantments?
When going against Chor and his frenzy using companions (or similar bosses) they can sometimes overwhelm my regen... how do you deal with this?

Thanks.

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

Trust me, Neoli is tough lol. You just have to make sure that you health is low and that you always keep your enchantments covered with Mystic Vigor. As for Chor, I don't know why you have problems with him, unless you're not lining the monsters up so you attack 3 at the same time.

Nacash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

[SC]

W/Mo

hey i dont see night bringer in the waterworks at all, is he inside it or by that hill like it says in the wiki?

Joe L.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

USA

R/

He pops up on the low side of the hill. Just move towards the heket patrolling up the steps, and he should pop right behind you. Never seems to pop up until you advance a little ahead.

m4rk6

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Older Gamers

D/

Quote:
As for Chor, I don't know why you have problems with him, unless you're not lining the monsters up so you attack 3 at the same time. Yeah, that was it. I run through them, line em up and go back for the queen (healer). They usually kill me while Im trying to get into position to hit the queen and 2 other mobs.

Sencartha

Sencartha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Rt/

This is the best Build Eva THX!!!!!!! I love it, who eva made it up shud get an OBE or summthin

frosty7

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

I noticed quite a few people complaining about not being able to kill Marobah Sharptail and I have had the same problem. Easy to stay alive, spamming attack skills right up until PS flashes, but the boss uses victorious sweep and heals too much for me to take out, even using a customized and 15% scythe. Is it possible that some kind of update changed how often VS is used? It's more than a little frustrating spamming attacks for 5 mins with not a dent in the bosses health.

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

D/

Its really an easy boss, didnt have any problems with farming him. I kill the first 2 Behemot groups at 130hp, then die and kill Marobeh and his mobs. You're at 58 hp, so you don't need MV. Just make sure you line your target correctly - best option is to have boss at the one side, and the other mobs behind you.

Really, not a problem at all. Just use combo, RS, MS, EA for nice spike and when you see he's near 50% of hp use MS, EA and RS at the end to inflict a Deep Wound. After inflicting that condition it's a piece of cake.


Oh btw, I use pre-orde Soulbreaker, or after dying 2 times (16hp with +30 from scythe) I use Leilon's Vow.

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

D/

i try to die once then just hit marobeh and maybe 1 or 2 of his henchies. It works best if you can manage to only hit him but try to just have a large amount of behemoths behind you while you kill him.

Also I use a sundering ancient scythe of enchanting. Skin doesn't matter of course.

ecrazy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

HH

D/Mo

quick questions

- best weapon for this build > vampiric scythe of enchantment or zealouse scythe of enchantment?

- and only nf char > not possible for this build ??? no way to grab balthazar and essence bond

- as for chest armor, the armor you buy has the 25 health on it? Is that ok

- radiant for energy or the + armor???

- 5 superior runes.... what are the other 2 that is not for dervish

/Thanks

Joe L.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

USA

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ecrazy
quick questions

- best weapon for this build > vampiric scythe of enchantment or zealouse scythe of enchantment?

- and only nf char > not possible for this build ??? no way to grab balthazar and essence bond

- as for chest armor, the armor you buy has the 25 health on it? Is that ok

- radiant for energy or the + armor???

- 5 superior runes.... what are the other 2 that is not for dervish

/Thanks 1. Vamp and Zealous are neither necessary. Though vamp helps out a bit when facing alot of melee monsters, and you have not died at all, making you lose the full 13hp per hit. I use neither with great success.
2. Use Balthazar faction to unlock the skills you need, and then buy them from any skill trainer.
3.Yes. That is why you have 130hp instead of the 105 that any other class with five sup. runes would have.
4. Radiant all the way. Prot. Spirit is your defence here.
5.You just need to duplicate two of your runes. I believe that wind and earth are the cheapest.(funny how you suffer the negative effects of the duplicated runes, but not the positive effect.)

Hope this helps.

ecrazy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

HH

D/Mo

awesome thanks... so use balthazar faction to unlock the skills needed...
damn so i need to do 2-3 ... ah alot of pvping then

ecrazy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

HH

D/Mo

- quick question... may sound stupid... i know it is lol ... whats the whole point of reducing health ... i never played 55 monkster...
- why is it lower health the better
- so whats the preferred weapon? (best)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe L.
1. Vamp and Zealous are neither necessary. Though vamp helps out a bit when facing alot of melee monsters, and you have not died at all, making you lose the full 13hp per hit. I use neither with great success.
2. Use Balthazar faction to unlock the skills you need, and then buy them from any skill trainer.
3.Yes. That is why you have 130hp instead of the 105 that any other class with five sup. runes would have.
4. Radiant all the way. Prot. Spirit is your defence here.
5.You just need to duplicate two of your runes. I believe that wind and earth are the cheapest.(funny how you suffer the negative effects of the duplicated runes, but not the positive effect.)

Hope this helps.

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

D/

I find that a sundering scythe of enchanting helps, but I can see zealous or vamp working as well. I prefer this as it helps get in a little extra damage when needed (Marobeh Sharptail, Chddekhir)

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

D/

Personally, I use pre-order item for 130hping, but when I die twice I use Leilon's Vow. Also, when I'm facing group of mobs with >3 Ethers, or aggro 2/3 groups with them (e.g. farming Leilon, Tranquil Water) I always use zealous scythe (LV).


Someone mentiones unlocking skills via Priest of Balthazar - bad advice - he won't be able to unlock skills from Prophecies if he's a NF character only.


@ farming in the Foodplains - I don't even bother killing them. There's a possible run to avoid each group when you go for Nighbringer/Robah/B-sth farm.

m4rk6

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Older Gamers

D/

The whole point of reducing health? -- read Protective Spirit and what it does.

I tend to bring 3 scythes -- sundering, vampiric and zealous -- and switch as needed. And _____ scythe of enchanting helps prolong those rather short enchantments you need to stay alive.

To those who farm in floodplains of mahkelon -- do you even bother killing any mobs that have blue tongued hekets? Those are a PITA and they move around too, messing up my careful positioning.

ecrazy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

HH

D/Mo

so this build is hopeless for NF character only.
- i kinda like the zealot more... didnt like the - health regen at all
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassu
Personally, I use pre-order item for 130hping, but when I die twice I use Leilon's Vow. Also, when I'm facing group of mobs with >3 Ethers, or aggro 2/3 groups with them (e.g. farming Leilon, Tranquil Water) I always use zealous scythe (LV).


Someone mentiones unlocking skills via Priest of Balthazar - bad advice - he won't be able to unlock skills from Prophecies if he's a NF character only.


@ farming in the Foodplains - I don't even bother killing them. There's a possible run to avoid each group when you go for Nighbringer/Robah/B-sth farm.

BooRay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Des Moines IA

None

Mo/

Well i dont if anyone has tried farming in wetlands lately but shatter enhancements gets me there now, also I used to be able to farm a few other areas that I cant any longer for some reason. Anyone else notice changes?

m4rk6

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Older Gamers

D/

I can't seem to kill a mob that regularly casts troll unguent or spams healing signet.

Any suggestions?
Would isolating the mob work -- attacking the mob while the rest of the mobs attack you and regen your energy -- and spam attack skills on it?
Primary example would be the rain beetle, bugger keeps using troll unguent.

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

I didn't read through all 15 pages, so if this was asked before, sorry.

How do you clear out the area with the djinn because they are always grouped with the mesmer lions (roaring ethers) and they remove enchantments. Am I missing something? The djinn ele bosses are also grouped with them.

Edit...sorry, it's not that they remove enchantments, it is that they drain energy so that you can't apply your enchantments and then they res each other. With 2 ethers attacking (usually in groups of 2-3) energy is an issue even with essense and balthazar on you.