Domain Of Anguish

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

On the login screen it totally says "Novel Armor" and "New Method of Weapon Aquisition"

Made In Ascalon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

None

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
Mesmers have a counter To every build. You can't kill a mesmer specified to kill you.
Paragon shouts/chants/echoes.
Until Energizing Finale is nerfed, not even E-Denial can counter it.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Good one. Did not think about that.

But 1on1 VS a Paragon, Mesmer Wins, Seeing that the Paragon has to Attack at some point, and heal himself.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Considering the requirement to finish the game, and the statue is barred from access unless you do, putting a favor requirement on it would be a bit of a stupid idea. Quite likely, the statue takes you to the lobby town in the Realm of Torment, with that being the 'door' to get in. That stops people who haven't completed the game being ferried there.

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon
Paragon shouts/chants/echoes.
Until Energizing Finale is nerfed, not even E-Denial can counter it.
Diversion and/or Pyschic Distraction.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Three new screenies from DoA, looks mmm tasty:

http://www.guildwars.com/gallery/screenshots/nightfall/

Edit. Ah it seems new armours will be for heroes. Hmm, wonder if they are first hero armours that'll cost something or some quests there that reward players with armour parts.

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

Am I the only one reading "New Method of Weapon Aquisition" as trade improvements whether it be auction house or a new green weapon merchant? If I'm right remember you heard it from me first.

I don't know if I should buy greens or sell them off to prepare hehe

At first I read "New Method of Weapon Aquisition" as a rolling system or "customized on pickup" system like seen in WoW. Maybe we'll get those changes too, but I'm really leaning towards some kind of trade improvement instead.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Customized on Pickup would sky rocket all the Items we have right now that are NOT customized, So i highly doupt that would be it.

*crosses fingers* Oh plz oh plz Auction Houses.....

Geishe

Geishe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Agonized

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie

Edit. Ah it seems new armours will be for heroes. Hmm, wonder if they are first hero armours that'll cost something or some quests there that reward players with armour parts.
It totally would not make sense, but don't our characters count as heroes too >.>

Im just trying to not lose hope.

Sigh, my rit has run out of armor to buy.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, Gaile has post some more information regarding this Friday's update on gwonline.

Summary.-

1. This is indeed the large update they mentioned last month. It just comes earlier than expected.

2. The new armor is indeed for heroes.

3. Razah is a Ritualist hero. So much for the "variable" if you ask me.

I wonder, though, what this means for players without Factions. You get Rt hero in Nightfall, but since you can't unlock any Rt skills, what's the point?

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, Gaile has post some more information regarding this Friday's update on gwonline.

Summary.-

1. This is indeed the large update they mentioned last month. It just comes earlier than expected.

2. The new armor is indeed for heroes.

3. Razah is a Ritualist hero. So much for the "variable" if you ask me.

I wonder, though, what this means for players without Factions. You get Rt hero in Nightfall, but since you can't unlock any Rt skills, what's the point?
Good point, You should post it in the thread where Gaile made the comment:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083079

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, Gaile has post some more information regarding this Friday's update on gwonline.
...

3. Razah is a Ritualist hero. So much for the "variable" if you ask me.

...
That's kind of disappointing. I was really looking forward to seeing a variable primary character. Razah's story sounds too cool in the manual just to be a Ritualist.

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalki
Am I the only one reading "New Method of Weapon Aquisition" as trade improvements
I was kind of hoping this meant questing for weapons that are named after good guys or something... though with "nearly a dozen quests" there doesn't seem to be enough... I guess I can hope for trade improvements insead, but if you have to beat Nightfall to get trade improvements, that's just dumb.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
My milk tastes funky.
It looks like cottage cheese. That could be why.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

I guess my only question is, if Razah is a Ritualist hero what is that going to do for Nightfall only players? Considering that there are no core skills that means there will only be 25 skills (15 buyable 10 elite) that is offered for NF only.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu
I guess my only question is, if Razah is a Ritualist hero what is that going to do for Nightfall only players? Considering that there are no core skills that means there will only be 25 skills (15 buyable 10 elite) that is offered for NF only.
Razah will probably be from a pathetically easy quest (otherwise people would complain), that's only accessable to Factions owners.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Razah Was formed in the mists, FoW, UW anybody? It does not mean that it has to be in the DoA.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kha
It looks like cottage cheese. That could be why.
It was Grey.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

So Razah will be useless for all real proposes, Like Ritualists in general?


:\ Anyway, I am still hoping for that Gold Sink I mentioned somewhere.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

I'm a little sad that the armor is in fact for Hero NPCs only. But I'm happy that it means I wont be tempted to buy new armor Still.. I'm wondering what these gems are all about.. one more day..

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Didn't Gaile Suggest the Devs (on a few occastions) that we should have jewlery? Such as necklaces.

Didn't Gaile Also Suggest the Whitch Hat, A Mini varesh upgrade and countless other things?

Lyonette

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

E/

considering the limited armor options in NF, i was really hoping for this update to include a new armor set.

*sigh* but it's hero armor.... *sigh*

Not.. Happy.. Jan!

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Ok so it's hero armour, what does that mean? We did those challenge missions to upgrade our hero's armour for nothing cuz we're gonna overwrite them with the DOA armours? Hope we get an answer soon from some uber elite guild that pulls an all nighter =b

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Didn't Gaile Suggest the Devs (on a few occastions) that we should have jewlery? Such as necklaces.
Didn't Gaile Also Suggest the Whitch Hat, A Mini Varesh upgrade and countless other things?


I still say that the new gems are to "bling up" our Existing armor, there is now Way Gaile said everything right there and then.

Unless The new gems are indeed for hero armor and a new money Sink.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

I'd be cool with jewlery.. as long as it wasn't a major bonus.. maybe a ring with +1 engery ect... but i'd be surprised if that was the case at least in the elite area.. i don't see how that would translate well to people who haven't finished Nightfall or don't have Nightfall.

Hero armor = armor like you got in the challenge mission yes. I'm sure this is just another variation.. though I would think the majority of people would rather have armor for themselves.. so that strikes me as odd. Unless I'm wrong and people rather have more hero armor choices.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

I would be Surprised if it was rings, Sure you can see the nails on your characters Given high enough Detail, but for a lot of people Rings might only be a 4-9 Square Pixel Brownish Dot.

If there are rings, there should be a Zodiac-esk Light Orb of different colours for differeing rings.

Now THAT would be cool, and could sooth many "Give us Norm-ies Divine Aura"

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
Didn't Gaile Suggest the Devs (on a few occastions) that we should have jewlery? Such as necklaces.
Didn't Gaile Also Suggest the Whitch Hat, A Mini Varesh upgrade and countless other things?


I still say that the new gems are to "bling up" our Existing armor, there is now Way Gaile said everything right there and then.

Unless The new gems are indeed for hero armor and a new money Sink.
I'd expect these so-called gems to be something equivalent to "Ancient Armor" or "Stolen Armor".....and that's it.

Cunning

Cunning

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vabbi, Elona

Ex Talionis [Law]

Me/

Does anyone care what their heroes look like? Does anyone even glance at heroes? I was looking forward to getting something for myself, not for the customised henchmen that no one will ever see.

On http://www.guildwars.com, it says "New gems, new weapons, new hero armor", yet in the announcement it says new "weapon acquisition" and "novel armour upgrade options", which is it?

Slomo

Slomo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Denmark

Southern Farmers Union

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cunning
Does anyone care what their heroes look like? Does anyone even glance at heroes? I was looking forward to getting something for myself, not for the customised henchmen that no one will ever see.

On http://www.guildwars.com, it says "New gems, new weapons, new hero armor", yet in the announcement it says new "weapon acquisition" and "novel armour upgrade options", which is it?
Seeing as "they" are always a bit lazy in the update-the-login-department i'd say Hero Armour... it is usually the newest "post" from the devs that count. In this case the webbie.

And i was SO looking forward to some cool looking armour...

/bit off-topic: i was actually very fond of my predator-like kurzick assassin armour... but hey! thats a matter of taste, and taste CAN be discussed, but almost never agreed upon.

/see ya in DoA, when the weekend's over... Got work to do

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Therefore, no one is trading contracts in order to buy them!
Rather amazing how you are able to speak for over 2,000,000 players around the world.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Killer
Rather amazing how you are able to speak for over 2,000,000 players around the world.
I had assumed that people had the common sense not to buy something that was useless. I was wrong.

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I had assumed that people had the common sense not to buy something that was useless. I was wrong.
diamods are usefull as investment... dont be surprised if people foresee things

WhiteZombie

WhiteZombie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I had assumed that people had the common sense not to buy something that was useless. I was wrong.
that didnt stop people from collecting rubies and sapphires now did it

c_ras

c_ras

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Eternal Deliverance

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cunning
Does anyone care what their heroes look like? Does anyone even glance at heroes? I was looking forward to getting something for myself, not for the customised henchmen that no one will ever see.

On http://www.guildwars.com, it says "New gems, new weapons, new hero armor", yet in the announcement it says new "weapon acquisition" and "novel armour upgrade options", which is it?




I noticed this too and I'm wondering what they are planning. So those that are expecting new armor for your own characters...please don't be disappointed when it doesn't happen. It probably won't. For now, it looks like there won't be any new armor except those for Heros. I'm pretty sure Razah will be in there and will be unlocked through one of the various quests they have. As far as what it will be like....I'm seriously thinking it may be sort of like a SF crossed with maybe a little Tombs. I'm kinda intrigued by this. I'm also intrigued when they say "Novel" items. Ok at first I started thinking "Ok....there will just be new Green items"....but that doesn't necessarily fit the word "Novel" very good if they are just more Green items since "Novel" means something that has never been seen before. As far as the gems go....I have a feeling the new gems may have to deal with armor crafting for the heros. It is going to be interesting to see what they have going on and I for one can't wait.

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I had assumed that people had the common sense not to buy something that was useless. I was wrong.
You got a problem with my collection of Juni berries?

(Yes, it's an improper comparison, since there's no money involved. But I couldn't help it.)

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

I'm hoping the new armor options means we can change our armor created in other chapters. Other then that, I'm not overly excited about the new elite mission. But I hope you guys enjoy it.

Vital

Vital

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

MN

Wart Machine [Dojismom]

Even more Hero armor? Wow, really exciting...

Buying a Hero a rune is enough too tick me off, giving them bling is just retarded.

P.S: Get the "Hero" out of, poorly named at this point, Heroes Ascent!

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

We isnt that just crappy, couldnt wait to get new armor......FOR MYSELF!

now i feel empty kinda like a "meh" feeling, maybe i'll do it maybe i wont......but one things for sure....I WILL NOT SPEND GOLD ON ARMOR FOR HEROS.....how useless would that be?

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

I like getting new Hero armor.

Hence the reason I hate Remains of Sahlahja (sp?).

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I don't know if anyone else mentioned it yet cause I don't feel like combing through the last 14 pages; but Gaile has confirmed Razah is a rit hero
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083624

Cid

Cid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Its well lame that Razah is a Rit hero, wanted to make a 4 man beastmaster party and chew through Travalers vale

Meh

I hope hes/shes got a margonite skin. With the wings. Thatd rock

Velath

Velath

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

A/

I thought thread speculation/and possibly Gaile said this was not the elite mission earlier? But now she says it's the major update that they've been talking about just earlier than expected...

I skimmed through some other pages but couldn't see anything on this, what is the current opinions?