Domain Of Anguish
scrinner
On the comment of rings... Now arent you guys just speculating a bit.. Too much? Also i believe they added something of the sort during the beta of guildwars but was removed before prophecies was released. Dont quote me on that though
gabrial heart
OK total let down! Razah a rit? That totally sucks!!!! Hero armor??? What crap! So not cool.... The only thing I might look forward to right now is the weapons. I'm totally not happy about this. If this new "mission" is a challenge mission I'm going to scream!!! Wow A-net, good going on changing razah to a rit hero, thats really crappy IMO and i HAVE factions...
Midnight Harmony
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Originally Posted by jackie
Three new screenies from DoA, looks mmm tasty:
http://www.guildwars.com/gallery/screenshots/nightfall/ Edit. Ah it seems new armours will be for heroes. Hmm, wonder if they are first hero armours that'll cost something or some quests there that reward players with armour parts. |
natuxatu
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Originally Posted by gabrial heart
OK total let down! Razah a rit? That totally sucks!!!! Hero armor??? What crap! So not cool.... The only thing I might look forward to right now is the weapons. I'm totally not happy about this. If this new "mission" is a challenge mission I'm going to scream!!! Wow A-net, good going on changing razah to a rit hero, thats really crappy IMO and i HAVE factions...
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Dreikki
Hahahahahaha, best post ever.
Hopefully this is going to get me interested in GW again.
Hopefully this is going to get me interested in GW again.
gabrial heart
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Originally Posted by natuxatu
Everyone cries and screams that there is no rit hero.. and now there is one and what happens. ^
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unienaule
Don't post inappropriate comments. These forums are family friendly, or at least we try to be.
KoalaMeatPie
I know, A Ritualist hero is sorta of a let down.
Whatever a Rit can Do, Paragons can do Better.
Not to mention what was previously said about People who don't have Factions will be stuck with an incompleat Hero. (Skills)
Its no longer a "Variable profetion" Hero, Which sounded as thought he could change his Primary Profetion, In which case people with Factions, people could have gotten an Rt If they chose to, AND it would have been compleat.
As far as any other part of the DoA, I am quite happy.
Whatever a Rit can Do, Paragons can do Better.
Not to mention what was previously said about People who don't have Factions will be stuck with an incompleat Hero. (Skills)
Its no longer a "Variable profetion" Hero, Which sounded as thought he could change his Primary Profetion, In which case people with Factions, people could have gotten an Rt If they chose to, AND it would have been compleat.
As far as any other part of the DoA, I am quite happy.
Scutilla
I'm not sure why people are so sore about Razah being a ritualist... if you need a hero of a different profession use a different hero. Not to mention a character with a variable primary would be insanely difficult to choose weapons and runes for.
It's also sad that so many people are complaining about the lack of new armor, when they never said there would be new armor in the first place. Maybe ANet should never tell us anything until it actually happens to avoid misinterpretation?
It's also sad that so many people are complaining about the lack of new armor, when they never said there would be new armor in the first place. Maybe ANet should never tell us anything until it actually happens to avoid misinterpretation?
Sanji
Really though, we already have two heroes in most Professions. I wouldn't count out getting more as time goes by, which would make the whole variable profession thing superfluous.
Vital
I have a leet build for my Rt Hero already...
Slot 1 = Soul Twisting
Slot 2 = w/e Spirit
Slot 3 = Shelter
Slot 4 = Rez Sig
Slots 5-8 = Empty
Get Soul Twisting going on the first generic spirit. Put up Shelter and disable slot 2. Throw in Boon if needed and watch in amazement the pure skill of crapping spirits!
Slot 1 = Soul Twisting
Slot 2 = w/e Spirit
Slot 3 = Shelter
Slot 4 = Rez Sig
Slots 5-8 = Empty
Get Soul Twisting going on the first generic spirit. Put up Shelter and disable slot 2. Throw in Boon if needed and watch in amazement the pure skill of crapping spirits!
Horseman Of War
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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
I don't know if anyone else mentioned it yet cause I don't feel like combing through the last 14 pages; but Gaile has confirmed Razah is a rit hero
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083624 |
From the description in the Manual though, I would have thought he was 'any' class primary....
...Rit is good tho- not just good, but AWESOME Im about a million times better at Rit than I have ever been with a monk (and the skill unlockds/time played on my account prove it: you guys would laugh so hard if you saw my small collection of Monk elites..)
Kha
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Originally Posted by Sanji
Really though, we already have two heroes in most Professions. I wouldn't count out getting more as time goes by, which would make the whole variable profession thing superfluous.
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Because of how armor works for Heroes, I'm guessing it was too complicated or annoying to find a reasonable way to work it out for a variable Hero, besides making him have multiple armor sets. Maybe they ended up not liking the idea of having a variable hero afterall. Who knows, and oh well. I'm more excited/worried about the new areas and not another hero.
Sanji
Well, the variable Hero thing would work if you allowed him to access to something like the PvP Equipment window, but y'know, give them an inch and they'll take the whole yard.
c_ras
Well what doesn't make sense if Razah is a Rit, is this one of ANet's way of "tieing" the games together?
Scenario: "Wow....I just bought Nightfall. I can't wait to make an Uber Hero group with a Rit and a Sin in there. What???? I can only get the Rit hero in NF? You mean I have to actually buy Factions to get the Sin hero? Noooooooooooooo /ragequit
Either make the Sin hero available to people that only have NF as well or don't make Razah a Rit.
BTW....to me..it doesn't much matter since I have all 3 chapters and I'd be more than happy to add a Rit to the rest of my heroes, but i am sure some people out there are thinking this and don't want to speak up.
Scenario: "Wow....I just bought Nightfall. I can't wait to make an Uber Hero group with a Rit and a Sin in there. What???? I can only get the Rit hero in NF? You mean I have to actually buy Factions to get the Sin hero? Noooooooooooooo /ragequit
Either make the Sin hero available to people that only have NF as well or don't make Razah a Rit.
BTW....to me..it doesn't much matter since I have all 3 chapters and I'd be more than happy to add a Rit to the rest of my heroes, but i am sure some people out there are thinking this and don't want to speak up.
gabrial heart
I'm not upset that he's a rit, I'm upset that it's one more thing they said and didn't implement, so the list goes on. I know they change things all the time, but the variable idea i thought was pretty outstanding.
I have a good amount of the elite hero armor already and switch whenever i feel like it, so i really don't get the need for more hero armor. As it is I'm pretty set with the idea that heros should just be account wide, outfitting, equiping and organizing 36 or more different heros isn't my idea of a good, time, let alone the ABSOLUTE need for storage for all of them. Gawd forbid i need to move a weapon from dunkoro a to dunkoro b and so on.
I have a good amount of the elite hero armor already and switch whenever i feel like it, so i really don't get the need for more hero armor. As it is I'm pretty set with the idea that heros should just be account wide, outfitting, equiping and organizing 36 or more different heros isn't my idea of a good, time, let alone the ABSOLUTE need for storage for all of them. Gawd forbid i need to move a weapon from dunkoro a to dunkoro b and so on.
Sanji
Letting your heroes access your Rune and Insignia unlocks after a certain point in the game would be beyond decent.
reetkever
Wait - making Razah a ritualist is wrong! People who only have nightfall can;t give the poor hero skills.
Zenmai is only unlockable when a player owns Factions, so that's settled, but the Ritualist is also for Nightfall-only players?
Hmmmmm that sucks...
Zenmai is only unlockable when a player owns Factions, so that's settled, but the Ritualist is also for Nightfall-only players?
Hmmmmm that sucks...
jon0592
Who even uses their heroes? Let alone LOOK at them. The only time you could look at the armor is in a zone. You're either a) fighting, which you should be looking at what's going on, not your hero's armor! or b) standing around in a zone, watching your hero's armor, which is a complete waste of time.
Kijik Oni Hanryuu
bah I was gonna make a rit either way, variable or not, I needed that tenth prof. oh and gabrial, you said a paragon can do anything a rit can but better, I really want to see you back up that statement, I don't see paragons creating armies of spirits that pressure the enemy party and at times spike them... saying one class does another class' job make you looke like a noob.
Kha
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Originally Posted by jon0592
Who even uses their heroes? Let alone LOOK at them.
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gestalt
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Originally Posted by gabrial heart
I'm not upset that he's a rit, I'm upset that it's one more thing they said and didn't implement, so the list goes on. I know they change things all the time, but the variable idea i thought was pretty outstanding.
I have a good amount of the elite hero armor already and switch whenever i feel like it, so i really don't get the need for more hero armor. As it is I'm pretty set with the idea that heros should just be account wide, outfitting, equiping and organizing 36 or more different heros isn't my idea of a good, time, let alone the ABSOLUTE need for storage for all of them. Gawd forbid i need to move a weapon from dunkoro a to dunkoro b and so on. |
A variable profession hero gains you abosolutely nothing since you already have completely configurable heroes for every profession except Rit.
If you had a variable prof hero the only thing you could do is take Razah everytime. But it gives you nothing extra as far as actual team builds, except to perhaps flesh out a few extra prof slots if you want 3 primary monks or something. But that would be far better to do by simply adding in other heroes in updates and expansions.
Once there are 3 heroes of each profession the variable hero idea is completely useless and causes unecessary problems and confusion.
The variable prof idea sounds cool at first but functionally adds nothing but problems
I suspect Anet came to this conclusion.
Geishe
I highly doubt Razah will be Ritualist, Gaile didnt 100% confirm it. It would not make sense for NF owners to have to suffer with a useless hero. I doubt Anet is that illogical.
MasterThrawn
It actually does not make sense. Yeah - why make the Rit Hero Nightfall only, when you can only get the skills if you have Factions. Skill capping I guess. I love Rits though, and will be more than happy to have one. Still doesn't make sense to me - if I didn't have all three chapters, I wouldn't be happy.
Greygon
From what I remember the manual said Razah was of an "unknown" profession. That doesn't mean variable does it? We already have 2 Warriors, 2 Monks, 2 Rangers, and 2 Necros... We need a Rit Hero as well.
Besides, like someone else commented, it would be almost impossible to keep up with Runes and Insignias if it was variable.
Don't Worry! Be Happy!
We've got a big update in about 24 hours!
Some people just aren't happy unless they are unhappy.
I know my guild has an exploratory trip into the new area scheduled for tomorrow night.
Besides, like someone else commented, it would be almost impossible to keep up with Runes and Insignias if it was variable.
Don't Worry! Be Happy!
We've got a big update in about 24 hours!
Some people just aren't happy unless they are unhappy.
I know my guild has an exploratory trip into the new area scheduled for tomorrow night.
Senlur
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Originally Posted by Greygon
From what I remember the manual said Razah was of an "unknown" profession. That doesn't mean variable does it? We already have 2 Warriors, 2 Monks, 2 Rangers, and 2 Necros... We need a Rit Hero as well.
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As to if it bothers me if Razah is just a ritualist, I dunno. I'll reserve judgement until I get him and know for sure.
Former Ruling
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So the arguement that she didn't confirm it is mute, but what you CAN speculate is the fact that she might not be giving us the whole story, like the idea that his profession is variable is still alive - She just confirmed that he is a ritualist she didn't confirm or deny whether that can be changed or not.
I still think he is just a ritualist though, it saves me grief. IF I think he is a ritualist and he turns out changable - Cool, but if he just turns out a ritualist I won't be setting myself up for disappointment.
In the same post she also confirmed that the new "Novel Armor" is for your Heros, not yourself.
Myria
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Originally Posted by Greygon
From what I remember the manual said Razah was of an "unknown" profession. That doesn't mean variable does it?
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Razah
Unformed Hero
“I live to serve.”
Origin: The Mists
Age: Inapplicable
Profession: Variable
Quid Pro Quo
My guess is that Razah's proffession will be chosen once you get to him. His proffession will probably be locked once you pick it.
Fluffyx
I don't know where everyone got the idea that a variable profession would mean you could change his primary in an outpost. It sounded more like when you met him you could chose what he would form as.
Ninna
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Originally Posted by reetkever
making Razah a ritualist is wrong! People who only have nightfall can't give the poor hero skills.
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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ritualist_Nightfall_skills
and the hero will come with some base skills
I personally prefer Razah as Ritualist -- even if I didnt own Factions
Horseman Of War
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Originally Posted by Myria
The Nightfall manual, page 36, states --
Razah Unformed Hero “I live to serve.” Origin: The Mists Age: Inapplicable Profession: Variable |
thank you
Greygon
Senlur and Myria are correct. I stand humbly corrected.
Variable WOULD work if you chose his/her/its profession once at the time you get the hero. Lock in the primary profession one time.
Personally, I still think it will be a Rit. I'm ok with that. Adding a Rit to the hero builds I already have can only make them better in most cases.
I can see a 2 person/6 hero build that would just OWN.
Variable WOULD work if you chose his/her/its profession once at the time you get the hero. Lock in the primary profession one time.
Personally, I still think it will be a Rit. I'm ok with that. Adding a Rit to the hero builds I already have can only make them better in most cases.
I can see a 2 person/6 hero build that would just OWN.
natuxatu
My question is.. which i didn't see on Guildwars.com is when will open? Midnight PST or Noon PST o_O I want to know if i need to stay up late or not 
Count to Potato
Its says late evening but thats late eveing PST so for me 3 in the morning saturday, in the scribe is says any day or hour???
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
My guess is that Razah's proffession will be chosen once you get to him. His proffession will probably be locked once you pick it.
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Kalki
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Originally Posted by scrinner
On the comment of rings... Now arent you guys just speculating a bit.. Too much? Also i believe they added something of the sort during the beta of guildwars but was removed before prophecies was released. Dont quote me on that though
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Cronnie
Well it seems Razah is a rit (at first), according to the priest of balth.
Zinger314
For emphasis, the Seer of Truths in the Chantry of Secrets, the path to the Domain of Anguish, spawns without needing favor.
black_mamba
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Originally Posted by Geishe
It would not make sense for NF owners to have to suffer with a useless hero. I doubt Anet is that illogical.
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suffer? useless? I dont know about you, but I think rits are very usefull!
they can heal, protect, deal a good amout of damg and solo alot of places.
Anet illogical? haha