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Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

29 Nov 2006 at 18:34 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

2 Days till we find out. Get saving those rubies, Sapphires and Diamonds. 120/120/40 I bet

Hm. That actually got me thinking...

Currently, the only supply of rubies/sapphires are extremely rare drops in FoW/UW + random drops all over the place, trade contracts and once again, extremely rare salvage. An "elite" armor that uses a lot of gems seems logical to me, so to avoid the price of gems skyrocketing to 100k each, anet has to make them drop somewhere.

Wouldn't the elite mission be the perfect place... fow armor is crafted in FoW, made from ectos and shards, which drop... you got it, in FoW and UW. It's perfectly logical that gems will drop in the elite mission, which should bring down Vabbian armor roughly to the level of 15k.

If the above is correct (and it seems very likely to me), people should be selling their gems right now, before the price drops :P Or, at the very least, be the first to go into the elite mission and be ready to sell them on short notice.

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

29 Nov 2006 at 18:45 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scutilla

As the first person to post it explained, it was due to a crappy video card.

Not only can you see it on the U map, but you can also get a good view of it from the Gate of Secrets:

This is the first time I see that map, So I wouldn't know of how it was obtained.

But thats intresting, I compleatly forgot about that floating island nobody could get to.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

29 Nov 2006 at 18:48 - 203

And a cool pet *cough* hippo *cough*

I can dream

c1team

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Homelands

29 Nov 2006 at 18:56 - 204

Too bad the update news doesn't say elite mission but a "compelling mission as well". Expect our awaited elite mission to be out around Christmas.

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

29 Nov 2006 at 19:21 - 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

Hm. That actually got me thinking...

Currently, the only supply of rubies/sapphires are extremely rare drops in FoW/UW + random drops all over the place, trade contracts and once again, extremely rare salvage. An "elite" armor that uses a lot of gems seems logical to me, so to avoid the price of gems skyrocketing to 100k each, anet has to make them drop somewhere.

Wouldn't the elite mission be the perfect place... fow armor is crafted in FoW, made from ectos and shards, which drop... you got it, in FoW and UW. It's perfectly logical that gems will drop in the elite mission, which should bring down Vabbian armor roughly to the level of 15k.

If the above is correct (and it seems very likely to me), people should be selling their gems right now, before the price drops :P Or, at the very least, be the first to go into the elite mission and be ready to sell them on short notice.

In case you didnt know, the scribe already said that there will be gems in the elite mission, but they wont be Sapphires, Rubies and Diamonds. They are something else. Something new. So if there is a new armor its more likely to be made of new gems, not the old ones. So old gems probably will drop in price, while the new ones skyrocket.

Velath

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

A/

29 Nov 2006 at 19:38 - 206

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

/joke

Me (in team chat): Do we need an assassin in our team? He has R7LB too.
Team: NO! Get an extra monks or whatever.

/jokeend

lol I was wondering if I'd get a response to that...although it was much better in Elona with my sin than Cantha. Hopefully there are enough of us that are helping sins' reputation that there might be a use for us.

I wouldn't be too surprised if LB Gaze or the whole affect was somehow neutralized in DoA seeings how they've let AFKBringer go on for a while now.

As far as setup goes could it be something like how the Challenge Missions are set up. Meaning it's an outpost with portals to explorable areas, yet you can talk to a NPC that takes you to the mission that isn't a mappable area of space (like the elites)?

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

29 Nov 2006 at 20:56 - 207

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

*cross fingers* Hope for merchant weapons that cost 3000 plat....and hopefully no dumb favour requirement to get in.

No one would be able to buy novel weapons at 3000k, since you can only carry 100k on any toon, and they are not going to raise that cap.

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

29 Nov 2006 at 21:09 - 208

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehnchu

That was for Factions Elite missions, there's nothing stating other wise that the same the party size will be for this elite area.

Sorry for the late reply, but in the manual it is stated that the maximum party size for elite missions is 12 i'm fairly certain.

Just checked it, page 123.

"In an elite mission, a cooperative team of up to twelve high-level characters works together"

dfscott

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Me/Mo

29 Nov 2006 at 21:20 - 209

Quote:

Originally Posted by logan90

In case you didnt know, the scribe already said that there will be gems in the elite mission, but they wont be Sapphires, Rubies and Diamonds. They are something else. Something new. So if there is a new armor its more likely to be made of new gems, not the old ones. So old gems probably will drop in price, while the new ones skyrocket.

*hopes you're right*

I really want Vabbian armor (at a reasonable price)

Nine Soul

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Slotting Crew

R/

29 Nov 2006 at 21:29 - 210

Vabbian sucks, imho. But then again, I'm a male ranger, so Vabbian = crap (except for the vest, which I'm considering getting, wanna see some SSs first).

On a different note, I'm intending to be one of the first people in there, and I've heard rumors of... well, you'll see. Let's just say that it won't be pleasant for some "high-and-mighty-and-holy" people, if the rumors are true.

See ya in there on friday... and saturday... and sunday ("Incoming!" coffee FTW!)

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

29 Nov 2006 at 22:26 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by logan90

In case you didnt know, the scribe already said that there will be gems in the elite mission, but they wont be Sapphires, Rubies and Diamonds. They are something else. Something new. So if there is a new armor its more likely to be made of new gems, not the old ones. So old gems probably will drop in price, while the new ones skyrocket.

Hm. So much for my theory and "120/120/40" armor as well. I still have a hard time believing anet isn't planning to introduce a place where gems drop...

(No, I don't read the scribe)

dfscott

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Me/Mo

29 Nov 2006 at 22:37 - 212

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine Soul

Vabbian sucks, imho.

Well, if you're an assassin, your inscriptable armor options are limited to vabbian, ancient, and FoW. Ancient is hideous (imho), Fow is outrageously expensive, so my choice is clear.

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

29 Nov 2006 at 22:46 - 213

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfscott

Well, if you're an assassin, your inscriptable armor options are limited to vabbian, ancient, and FoW. Ancient is hideous (imho), Fow is outrageously expensive, so my choice is clear.

Is your assassin male? If not then I can't see why you'd not want Ancient armor it has everything you could ever want. Like lots of pointy things

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

29 Nov 2006 at 22:49 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffyx

Is your assassin male? If not then I can't see why you'd not want Ancient armor it has everything you could ever want. Like lots of pointy things

Pointy things are the basis of assasin armor, all the good ones at least, i don't see any real assasin without points, now only if they could be used as weapons

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

29 Nov 2006 at 23:21 - 215

the armor if its a full set anyone think it will be as popular as FoW armor?

I got a necro and spent my money on the crappy 10k ancient necro armor, (it was the best looking armor in the game) so im hoping this armor relys on gems like hero armor relys on green armor. and what would the lightbrinker ranks be worth in this place besides skill power? the only way you can get in the place is if you beat the game

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

29 Nov 2006 at 23:32 - 216

Razah looks like this, obviously.

edit: screw it, that's my new avatar.

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

29 Nov 2006 at 23:40 - 217

Well if anet has learned of their old "mistakes" they will make 55ing and such impossible (rending touch and such)

. Maybe i will finally get in a group which wants to clear it (and not a cookiecutter group)

SirErnieMacGloop

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Area 52

29 Nov 2006 at 23:43 - 218

My guess as to what Nine Soul is hinting at:
the Lighbringer skills and benefits will not be applicable to the mobs in the Domain of Anguish, as they are not minions of Abaddon.

Just a guess: waiting to see on Friday night....

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

29 Nov 2006 at 23:45 - 219

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggard

Razah looks like this, obviously.

edit: screw it, that's my new avatar.

zOMG! It's the Kool-Aid Man's evil computer nerd inbred step son!

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

29 Nov 2006 at 23:47 - 220

Quote:

Originally Posted by exiled mat

Well if anet has learned of their old "mistakes" they will make 55ing and such impossible (rending touch and such)

. Maybe i will finally get in a group which wants to clear it (and not a cookiecutter group)

apparently you dont know much about the 55 build. its more versitile than you would think.

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

30 Nov 2006 at 00:59 - 221

Quote:

Originally Posted by manitoba1073

apparently you dont know much about the 55 build. its more versitile than you would think.

So, you're saying that it's impossible for an area to be 55-proof?

Still, I willing to bet that there will be a solo/small group farming build for the area in 6 hours or less. 24 hours and it will be commonly known and widely used. (Remember how fast IDS solo farming caught on?)

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

30 Nov 2006 at 01:23 - 222

If they add one of each proffesion at the entrance or have well balanced teams all over the place, i doubt there will be any solo build there.
Like adding degen, enchantment removal, stance removal and slow, nothing will be able to solo it

The problem with the other areas ppl did solo farm, its because a.net didnt cared too much on updating it.

Another good idea would be decreasing the drop rate when ur with 1-5 ppl at the group, or getting a higher rate with 8 ppl (about 120%, considreing 100% the normal drop rate), this would surelly nerf any solo farming, or these stupid 5-man-fow ¬¬

Another thing they have to work out its the necessity of the other classes at these places.
For an example, you can easly do fissure of woe with 2 monks, 2 warriors and 4 nukers. These areas dont explore all classes unique abilities

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

30 Nov 2006 at 01:29 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by manitoba1073

apparently you dont know much about the 55 build. its more versitile than you would think.

And thats why we see it farming everywhere right?

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

30 Nov 2006 at 01:33 - 224

Quote:

Originally Posted by manitoba1073

apparently you dont know much about the 55 build. its more versitile than you would think.

Well, I for one (IMHO) think that it will definitely be anti-55.

Why? Nightfall was built on Paragons, and more importantly, Dervishes.

Now, how do Dervishes deal damage? They enchant themselves and end those enchants.

We all know it, and Anet knows it too. Most of the Nightfall players are Dervishes.

My point is, DoA will most likely have mesmers that can strip enchantments, you must know it too, with all these new skills revolving around enchantments.

Hmm...how do 55s survive? THEY LIVE OFF ENCHANTMENTS!

So yea, IMHO the DoA will be anti-55.

/rantover

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

30 Nov 2006 at 01:46 - 225

Oh come on, anything thats 55-proof needs a select few skills.
Chilblains, Rend Enchantments, Vamp Touch, Well of Profane and the various Dervish attacks that either steal health or remove enchantments.

I'm looking forward to a way to max Sunspear. And hopefully a more enjoyable way to max Lightbringer too... this afk thing really is the only way unless you wanna spend all your life mass farming the Domain of Secrets.

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

30 Nov 2006 at 01:48 - 226

Yeah I knew he meant 55, but Also I was wondering if he had Anything Else.

And if DoA is jack filled with mesmers, i for one, Will not go in. Mesmers piss me off. It makes me want to cripple the person who thought up Mesmers. Degen, Domination, Shut down.

Go Spent some times in the plains in the UW, try and finish off the mesmer hordes, come back up and see if you still like them.

Mr Jazzy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Cali

Mending For The [win]

W/A

30 Nov 2006 at 01:57 - 227

mesmers are the most interesting class! all of the other ones are cookie-cutter!

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

30 Nov 2006 at 02:30 - 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffyx

Sorry for the late reply, but in the manual it is stated that the maximum party size for elite missions is 12 i'm fairly certain.

Just checked it, page 123.

"In an elite mission, a cooperative team of up to twelve high-level characters works together"

You are right, well at least that's one good thing. Now to see if it's favor based or not.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

30 Nov 2006 at 02:43 - 229

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Jazzy

mesmers are the most interesting class! all of the other ones are cookie-cutter!

So that's why I always see mesmers with Conjure Phantasm, Conjure Nightmare, and some other degen spell in PvP?

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

30 Nov 2006 at 03:01 - 230

Quote:

Originally Posted by exiled mat

Well if anet has learned of their old "mistakes" they will make 55ing and such impossible (rending touch and such)

. Maybe i will finally get in a group which wants to clear it (and not a cookiecutter group)

Maybe you cant get into a group to clear for other reasons?

Of course go ahead and blame it on that which you dont like, the 55.

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

R/

30 Nov 2006 at 03:02 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxterduke

Having Koss or Orgu running around in FoW armor will be sweet since I never liked warrior FoW to get it for my warrior but would not mind having a hero with it
If Razah is here then there might be an armor upgrade for him after doing a quest or something like that.
But I still think armor upgrades are for us and it has to do with inscriptions.

If thats the case then I hope all the whiners stop complaining and realize how great Anet is by listining to us.

I doubt this is going to be implemented, but I thought I would correct this so others don't get confused.

First, his name is Norgu, not Orgu

. Also, the other Warrior hero besides Koss is Goren, and Norgu is a Mesmer.

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

30 Nov 2006 at 03:07 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

So that's why I always see mesmers with Conjure Phantasm, Conjure Nightmare, and some other degen spell in PvP?

I'm guilty of that! Conjur phantasm anyway, nightmare is too high an energy cost.. course, this is while ineptitude recharges

Generally in pvp, I'd prefer domination.. but in small teams 4 vs 4 or aspenwood, the degen/ineptutide build does soo much better because mesmers (are supposed to) play on the stupidity of other players.. in my case, ineptitude seems to own warriors...

As for the weekend.. I'm hoping to get my final hero during it.

Geishe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Agonized

Rt/Mo

30 Nov 2006 at 03:09 - 233

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

So that's why I always see mesmers with Conjure Phantasm, Conjure Nightmare, and some other degen spell in PvP?

whoooow, you don't see the e-denials? The interrupters? Migraine/Crip Ang? IW (especially in RA >.<)?

Wow, mesmers SURRRE are cookie cutter.

Or you just dont play enough PvP.

ON TOPIC: I suppose I'm fairly excited for it. Yes, bunch of new content, but if Ritualists and assassins are excluded again, it'll be such a pity.

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

Mo/

30 Nov 2006 at 03:46 - 234

Well all I can say is since the other elite missions only drop war/ranger greens...maybe these bosses will give us some monk/ele/mes/insert prof here Lovin'

Spirit Of Azrael

Echo-mending Master

Join Date: Jun 2006

Service of Shadows [SOS]

W/N

30 Nov 2006 at 03:47 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti Oath

Novel Weopans! (do you think this will be the Super Powerful PvE Only Weopans?)

Novel = Amusing. Like the banana scythe

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

30 Nov 2006 at 04:22 - 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Was'nt the context of the question about armor in ch4 and it not being as 'ugly' as ch3's?

Not saying there won't be new armor(I've mentioned a few time I think we're a set short) but just making sure the context of Gailie's answer is taken into account. The website only mentions Armor Upgrades..

2 Days till we find out. Get saving those rubies, Sapphires and Diamonds. 120/120/40 I bet

Don't get your hopes too high....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile on GWOnline

...Yes, the armor upgrades are indeed for your Heroes. Poor little guys -- they've only had a couple of sets and they've been feeling a bit behind the Fashion Scene, what with our characters having so many options. Soooo... the Heroes will now have the option of getting a spiffy new set of duds...

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

30 Nov 2006 at 04:32 - 237

I was Speaking rehtorically About the Crippling, I received a few PMs, and its fun to know I can raise a mob... But seriously folks, I hate mesmers, a lot, Which only makes the creator even more of a genious, And a sadist.

Mesmers have a counter To every build. You can't kill a mesmer specified to kill you.

And a Mob of general Mesmer like that in the UW, is just sadistic, plain and simple.

I just hope I won't see too many fo them in the DoA.

And now for something compleatly Different:

My milk tastes funky.

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

30 Nov 2006 at 04:35 - 238

i said the BUILD not HP, more to using the BUILD then just having 55 hps. then theres also armor swapping and that. like ppl said u couldnt get past the vamps in urgoz, with a solo build. been there done that. got all the way the bridge room. but we will see how it goes.

theres always more than 1 way to skin the cat.

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

30 Nov 2006 at 04:39 - 239

This isn't the "discuss the merits of AFK Lightbringer farming" thread. Please discuss that in another Lightbringer thread or create a new one if you really feel like it.

~~~

You can see some of the alternate hero armors in the Nightfall manual; not sure if that's what they'll have available.

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

30 Nov 2006 at 04:41 - 240

Yes, please do not force this thread to be close, it is my baby.

As For Razah, the "Changable Profetion" I thought you could change his Primary and Secondary one, would have made more sense.