Domain Of Anguish

Zarn

Zarn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Lost Heroes Guild

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Finally its here!!!! Ive been waiting impatiantly for ages :P So looking forward to the grand opening

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

ya I cant wait eithier, and i herd something about being able to salvage gems from the jeweled daggers and I have one pair but forgot where to farm them any word on that?

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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This is not my idea originally but I think it would work well here start sarcasm "Lets make it so you can't GvG unless PvEers in your region have killed the most monsters." end sarcasm :P Just to make u all laugh a little. I found it funny :P

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Think about this. Maximum party size for elite missions is 12, so unless they allow you to form groups in Chantry with 12 people there will be a town inside this new area. So that could mean after one entrance we will have access to it. Or perhaps it will work like the previous ones where we are taken to a mission outpoust which doesn't seem to be the case. Also if this area will be giving us another hero I don't doubt that we will be able to use them in the elite mission.

Bitis Gabonica

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona

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New armor upgrades meaning ... attachments or actually new armor?

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Reading: it does a body good.
Of course there will be a mission because that's what it said.. but there will also be four areas to explore... so yeah.. i stand by what i said.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
I think you are misunderstanding me. Re-read my first post on this. What i'm implying is what if the Elite Mission can be accessed from two different areas? Chantry of Secrets if we have favor and Throne of Secrets regardless of favor. The benefit of going through Chantry is it's really simple vs. having to go through abaddon. What I think is fair is that having favor gives you that benefit but your not limited to needing favor to enter.

Zehnchu you are half way right. When you kneeled to see the avatar you were most likely at the Throne of Secrets, not Chantry. That is why she popped up.
Yes i think i did misunderstand your comments, which i checked again in my Edit to the post as well.

However, i dont think having the Favor requirement with a option to access for those without favor by defeating abaddon would be a good idea as it just adds unneccessary limits on how you should be able to access an area you already qualify for by beating the game.

To give you an example, how would you like it if you will only be able to access your guildhall freely when your region has favor, but with the option of entering it by defeating the lich/shiro/abaddon if your region dont have favor, and seening that you have already paid for it?

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

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Oh noes!! Rank Elitism will kill teh pve! All the r8 peoples who are "highly skilled" afkers wont let me in their teams because im only r2.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Another damnd favor related mission,
A-Net you suck big time.
How about we actually see if its true before chucking the random insults around?
For the record im betting its not favor based because although Kormir is a god she is not one of the 5 recognised realm gods.

Senator Tom

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

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I can see it now...
"r8 lb group LFM"

Sweet, sweet discrimination!

All you other Holy Lightbringers out there, lets get ready to rumble!

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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^ which is why its important that Heros/hencies should be allowed in the Elite mission area.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

So you can develop a powerful solo build and send the heroes/henchies away, getting all the best drops from the end of the mission (if it's factions styled)?

Objection!

sking19

sking19

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Eye of The North

The Blue Acadamy [TBA]

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Have you guys ever looked in ur material storage there happens to be a diamond slot and if u cheak rare materail trader he doesnt have it, mabye that will be in the update

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Diamonds are in the game, the trader doesn't have any as stock is limited and they are rapidly purchased. It's possible they will be a more common drop inside.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Diamonds are in the game, the trader doesn't have any as stock is limited and they are rapidly purchased. It's possible they will be a more common drop inside.
Wrong, diamonds have no use! The Scribe lied: They are not used in Armor Crafting.

Therefore, no one is trading contracts in order to buy them!

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
To those with comments like: "lets wait and find out": Sorry i am not interested in making more hate posts against Anet in a flame thread that spawns over 50+ pages to say that limiting the Elite mission access by favor is a Bad idea apart from the requirement of having to to complete the game.
So you're saying we should be making hate posts BEFORE we know if it's going to require favor? Wait to make sure the sky is actually falling first, Chicken Little.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Wrong, diamonds have no use! The Scribe lied: They are not used in Armor Crafting.

Therefore, no one is trading contracts in order to buy them!
Well, someone's buying them- they were 4k at the trader today (though they sold out as soon as I clicked on them).

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Someone posted an interesting comment of Gaile's on GWO:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vexenna
Guys, I was just reading today's Gaile log-



I was under the impression that there would not be new armor... just 'armor upgrades'. But this (pretty much) confirms what I was hoping, unless I've misunderstood. Go look at the log an try to see what you get from that, but it seems pretty straightfoward to me.

(since you can't see the question asked this may be pertaining to something else. BUT the discussion WAS on the Friday update before and after this. )
The most logical interpretation of this would be that Anguish will have new craftable armors, yes?

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
So you can develop a powerful solo build and send the heroes/henchies away, getting all the best drops from the end of the mission (if it's factions styled)?

Objection!
What Avarre mentioned is a possiblity and has been used ingame currently to "clear" the way to the boss then proceeding to solo the boss in hopes of having higher chances of obtaining the drop of interest. Though i heard of the idea but i am not sure if it works as described since i had not tried it myself.

Then again, are we saying just because players are smart enough to use their heros creatively to increase their odds of success, we should curb them and place limitations on other player choices of play as well?

To me having Heros or henchman in the Elite mission matters little, since i would prefer to try it out with guildies but for those not fortunate enough to have enough friends to form a party of 12 would of course then have to either go and learn to play the new cookie cutter classes to get into even low LB rank grps or go farm/afk 50k LBPs for rank 8 Lightbringer gaze?

Wasnt Heros Introduced in the first place so that players arent forced to play a class that are only popular in cookie cutter PuGs and play the game normally with their class of choice with either their heros+hencies or 2 friends+(3X2) heros ?

If my memory serves me well, i remember having read the PC gamer Nov issue and had the impression that Heros will be able to accompany them into the Elite mission. (please feel free to correct me as i dont have the mag with me atm) But keeping in mind also that things may change over the course of time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutilla
So you're saying we should be making hate posts BEFORE we know if it's going to require favor? Wait to make sure the sky is actually falling first, Chicken Little.
IMO, prevention is always better than cure.

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

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I've personally been trading all of my contracts for diamonds, and constantly check for diamonds for sale at rare trader.

Ya there's no use for them atm, it's guaranteed there will be and it is wise to stock up on these gems just like it was wise to stock up on the original gem types.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sounds interesting enough but prob be a place I'll avoid after a few weeks...that is when the new farm builds will start circulating among the masses.

GLF MONK!! NO NOOBZ!!

stiffler

stiffler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

South Australia

[ToR]

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Finally the Elite Mission is coming

Anyone forming an organised group for this in guru?

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Velath
GJ ANet, I'm no where near done or bored with Nightfall so this is just icing on the cake.

R7(8)LB Sin LFG for Squishie Killing Purposes!
/joke

Me (in team chat): Do we need an assassin in our team? He has R7LB too.
Team: NO! Get an extra monks or whatever.

/jokeend

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
Zehnchu you are half way right. When you kneeled to see the avatar you were most likely at the Throne of Secrets, not Chantry. That is why she popped up.
I was CoS when I went there to check to see if we could get back in ToS by means of Kormir statue without having to repeat the last mission every time. To make it short end game armor you can only hold so much gold unless you go with some you trust, other wise you have to do the mission again just to get back there to craft matching headgear. What I was trying to say is that I don’t recall if my region had favor or not when I checked at CoS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffyx
Think about this. Maximum party size for elite missions is 12, so unless they allow you to form groups in Chantry with 12 people there will be a town inside this new area. So that could mean after one entrance we will have access to it. Or perhaps it will work like the previous ones where we are taken to a mission outpoust which doesn't seem to be the case. Also if this area will be giving us another hero I don't doubt that we will be able to use them in the elite mission.
That was for Factions Elite missions, there's nothing stating other wise that the same the party size will be for this elite area.

Tarus From Taros

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Wrong, diamonds have no use! The Scribe lied: They are not used in Armor Crafting.

Therefore, no one is trading contracts in order to buy them!
How is Avarre wrong? She never said they have a use. And the reason why people aren't trading contracts in for diamonds is because rubies are the most valuable therefore the most money. Now if diamonds were used to make armor and their value was let's say 6k, people (Intelligent ones now) would still trade contracts in for rubies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
how would you like it if you will only be able to access your guildhall freely when your region has favor, but with the option of entering it by defeating the lich/shiro/abaddon if your region dont have favor, and seening that you have already paid for it?
That's a really ridiculous comparison. An Elite Mission and a friggen Guild Hall are two completely different things. But yes, I would much rather have access to the elite mission through the Gate of Torment. This would not require favor nor facing any other obstacle other then game completion to enter. But if that isn't the case I would at least like some form of entrance to Anguish if my area doesn't have favor and if that way would be through killing Abaddon then so be it.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
That's a really ridiculous comparison. An Elite Mission and a friggen Guild Hall are two completely different things.
I agree it was a ridiculous comparison, but it only serves to highlight the fact that apart from completion of the game (defeating Abaddon) once, you got to wait for your region to have favor to enter the Elite mission is...ridiculous.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
But yes, I would much rather have access to the elite mission through the Gate of Torment. This would not require favor nor facing any other obstacle other then game completion to enter.
I am glad we are in agreement on this issue. Edit: Chantry of Secrets =_=

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
But if that isn't the case I would at least like some form of entrance to Anguish if my area doesn't have favor and if that way would be through killing Abaddon then so be it.
Before that happens, i will be soon to be adding several more postcounts to my humble account in this thread and the ensuring Hate thread that would spawn from favor being used for Elite mission entry.


______________________
Keep Favor out of PvE.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

This elite mission is coming out pretty quick, I thought it would take months, anyhow looking forward to it, new amour upgrades/weapons! I can see the little town now, with 100+ districts waiting for the opening.

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
IMO, prevention is always better than cure.
They're releasing the mission in three days, no amount of whining on the forums at this point is going to get them to make a last-minute change before it goes live. Not to mention all that complaining is wasted if it turns out the problem doesn't even exist.

On the other hand, if it turns out that it DOES require favor, and the overwhelming opinion is that this is a Bad Thing, ANet might be convinced to change it afterwards.

In any case, since there's nothing to suggest that it requires favor other than the location of Kormir's statue in the Chantry of Secrets, I'm not too worried.

Golden_Mean

Golden_Mean

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Clan of the Dark Dragon [CDD]

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unrealer
"new armor upgrade options" quote directly from update, note it did not say New Armor. So whats this hype about getting new armors, perhaps they added an NPC that allows you to upgrade your old armor that you purchased before NF so that it can be inscriptable.
This would be great for my rit and his currently useless 15k kurzick that gives +armor while controlling spirits....

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

I don't think it will require favor. Statue of Kormir has always looked same, even with favor - no sparkling elfs jumping around statue. Although of course that might change with the coming update.

If it would require favor I'm pretty Anet would have mentioned it as well.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

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Jackie, You can only Spawn Kormir if you /kneel When you have favour.

And as for what the limited discription said, I beleive that You need to have favour to Enter the outpost, then you can just load then regardless of favour or not.

Think of it as HzH and Urgoz's Warren, Or Cavalon and The Deep,

Then think That "You need favour to go from HzH to Urgoz, but if you loose favour, you will still spawn in the Warren"

Thats just my specualtion, seeing as they said there will be "Four different areas" (So I am thinking it is on a scale similar to the UW) So, Outpost with 4 Different Exits?

timmyw29

timmyw29

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia, mate.

Clan WASD[WASD]

E/Mo

I'm thinking it'd be fun if there were mobs of Shiro's. Anyone else itching to beat up 8 Shiro's with impossible odds, at the same time?

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Yeah that was my bad.

It would sound a little bit absurd though "Domain of Anguish opens this weekend", players roll the update and notice that they can't go explore because some other region has the favor.

It would cause so much bitter talk especially if one is not playing in Europe/America districts.

I'm still keeping positive thoughts about it.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

I am guessing it will be in this new area where we can (officially) gain the 9th rank of the sunspears, so perhaps, there will be some evil, undead sunspears to fight?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Wrong, diamonds have no use! The Scribe lied: They are not used in Armor Crafting.

Therefore, no one is trading contracts in order to buy them!
Incorrect. Diamonds are purchased / traded for with contracts for the same reason people bought rubies, sapphires, and monstrous items in chapter one - speculation. When diamonds do have a use, the immensely limited supply is likely to make them a good investment.

Unless they are added as a more commonly found material somewhere later, as I mentioned in the post you disputed.

Railin

Railin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Am I the only one that thinks that you can't even use LB Gaze on monsters inside domain of anguish? Since Abbadon after finishing the game is defeated, shouldn't his minions stop appearing?

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutilla
The most logical interpretation of this would be that Anguish will have new craftable armors, yes?
I hope not, I'm not sure my wallet will be able to handle changing to yet another 15k armor set =/.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

I suppose I should start saving in case it's FoW price, or anywhere near it.

cachudo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Maybe they will allow you to inscribe your old weapons, or maybe the novel weapons are new green weapons of every skin, like green fellblades, chaos axes or even crystalline swords.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cachudo
Maybe they will allow you to inscribe your old weapons, or maybe the novel weapons are new green weapons of every skin, like green fellblades, chaos axes or even crystalline swords.
That'd suck, cause it'd be an ugly Crystalline sword then. They are pretty cause they have gold writing. It's all personal preference though. I'm excited regardless, seems they were smart enough to add in something before I got to bored.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'm thinking novel weapons will be extremely ornate weapons much like green weapons but with the ability to edit their mods and inscriptions. They would come max req. 8 or 9 always.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Railin
Am I the only one that thinks that you can't even use LB Gaze on monsters inside domain of anguish? Since Abbadon after finishing the game is defeated, shouldn't his minions stop appearing?
No.

I'd say even if he's gone, you still have to clean up the mess he made.

WhiteZombie

WhiteZombie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
No.

I'd say even if he's gone, you still have to clean up the mess he made.
or you have to face-off with his nerdy twin brother, abbarry!