You should be able to get the gist of this from the title, but anyway..
Razah in PvE is currently the biggest joke to get.
He is a FACTIONS PROFESSION, and in lodged in the insanely difficult NIGHTFALL elite area.....this practically alienates people without the ability to "make it" in the elite area from getting him.
Come on Anet, make it reasonable to get him, a way that won't require dependancy on others.
As for the rest of the Gate of Anguish, keep it the way it is.
Dear Anet: Make Razah's PvE aquisition REASONABLE.........
Sarevok Thordin
Radu Deucalion
I agree, I dont mind an insanely hard area, with huge rewards, like those weapons, hero armors etc, but I want my rit hero, thats just too hard.
LumpOfCole
It's just Anet's way of telling us that the Ritualist class is simply far better than every other class.
TiNkLeR
Get the ideia..
If you pass the quest , to complete the 4 areas.
You get Razah + (Elite)Mission. Its better than just getting a mission.
If you pass the quest , to complete the 4 areas.
You get Razah + (Elite)Mission. Its better than just getting a mission.
viper008
/signed and I can't say it any better than
Like this guy said
Like this guy said
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Razah is not an special hero.
Is not worth 4 of those gems. You can unlock it in PvP just by 6000 faction. Acquistion of a ritualist hero shoud have been in Factions like the assain, another mesmer should have been in Prophecies, next chapter shoud have one of each of it sprofessions and Razah should have been really a Varaible Hero. |
HzzB
/signed
Actually, DoA is an after-game elite area. Why anybody need another PvE hero at this point? For PvP it is only 6000 faction to unlock.
And I am not understand why A-Net removed all henchmen from so difficult area. It is a big challenge and PUG is a very bad choice to do it.
Actually, DoA is an after-game elite area. Why anybody need another PvE hero at this point? For PvP it is only 6000 faction to unlock.
And I am not understand why A-Net removed all henchmen from so difficult area. It is a big challenge and PUG is a very bad choice to do it.
Bel
/Signed.
I would only pay that high price from him if he really had a variable primary profession.
I would only pay that high price from him if he really had a variable primary profession.
Bankai
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Originally Posted by LumpOfCole
It's just Anet's way of telling us that the Ritualist class is simply far better than every other class.
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The Ernada
I agree.
I don't mind that DoA is insanely hard. I prefer it that way. But making you go through all that just to get the hero (and a Factions hero at that) is not worth it. It's not like he's the special variable hero anyway.
I don't mind that DoA is insanely hard. I prefer it that way. But making you go through all that just to get the hero (and a Factions hero at that) is not worth it. It's not like he's the special variable hero anyway.
Shadowspawn X
/not signed
Razah is the new UW spider. Nice to have but not necessary, we need at least one challange in the game. Everything doesnt have to be easy or quick in this game.
Razah is the new UW spider. Nice to have but not necessary, we need at least one challange in the game. Everything doesnt have to be easy or quick in this game.
Sarevok Thordin
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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
/not signed
Razah is the new UW spider. Nice to have but not necessary, we need at least one challange in the game. Everything doesnt have to be easy or quick in this game. |
The other professions seemed to get heroes easy enough.........
Well99
I know I would like to have RIT with chrs starting the mainland after pre.Useing heroes is a important part of the game to me.Doesnt make sense to have him/her for game after you finished....oh well
viper008
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Originally Posted by HzzB
/signed
Actually, DoA is an after-game elite area. |
Since all the players care about different things and have different playing styles in game.
HzzB
BTW, who need variable profession hero if you may easy switch heroes. What runes and armor this "variable hero" will have?
May be this hero would be useful at the starting area when you luck heroes, but not at the end game environment.
May be this hero would be useful at the starting area when you luck heroes, but not at the end game environment.
Pkest
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Originally Posted by HzzB
BTW, who need variable profession hero if you may easy switch heroes. What runes and armor this "variable hero" will have?
May be this hero would be useful at the starting area when you luck heroes, but not at the end game environment. |
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Whine more. This is the same thing as "make FoW cheaper please" a.net. Something in this game is a challenge. A Rt hero isn't NECCESSARY. Nothing is neccssary in this game.
Whine more. This is the same thing as "make FoW cheaper please" a.net. Something in this game is a challenge. A Rt hero isn't NECCESSARY. Nothing is neccssary in this game.
Sarevok Thordin
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Whine more. This is the same thing as "make FoW cheaper please" a.net. Something in this game is a challenge. A Rt hero isn't NECCESSARY. Nothing is neccssary in this game. |
No, if they add a variable primary profession hero, full power to them putting it in there, but NOT a hero with a primary profession that isn't accessable elsewhere.
HawkofStorms
Again, it isn't neccessary. It's not like a.net ate your first born child or something. Its a freaking game. Have a hyernia elsewhere and stop complaining. It isn't that big of a deal. If you can't be bothered to try to beat the domain of anguish, then why are you complaining on these boards? If you care so much about getting a Rt hero, go out there and start playing and try to beat it instead of wasting your time and energy here complaining and asking to make it easier.
broodijzer
/signed
we have easy access to all other profession heroes, why no rt? if it was a 2nd mesmer, sure, variable profession, sure. But rit is lame. It is a very hard area after all. Elite mission. Not for the normal people, else it'd lose it's meaning.
It's not necessary. But is it just for show? No.But isn't the core of the game having everything available without any hard challenges? Why is there 1k armor+15k armor, stalker + uw pet, crap skins + awesome skins, etc etc?
But why is the only rit hero insanely hard to get?
we have easy access to all other profession heroes, why no rt? if it was a 2nd mesmer, sure, variable profession, sure. But rit is lame. It is a very hard area after all. Elite mission. Not for the normal people, else it'd lose it's meaning.
It's not necessary. But is it just for show? No.But isn't the core of the game having everything available without any hard challenges? Why is there 1k armor+15k armor, stalker + uw pet, crap skins + awesome skins, etc etc?
But why is the only rit hero insanely hard to get?
Mr_T_bot
I wouldn't agree, except for the fact within a month no one but the confirmed working cookie cutter will even be able to get into the area to try and to the quests to try and get him and after a month the population of the area will be less than a fraction of what it is now.
noir0
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Again, it isn't neccessary. It's not like a.net ate your first born child or something. Its a freaking game. Have a hyernia elsewhere and stop complaining. It isn't that big of a deal. If you can't be bothered to try to beat the domain of anguish, then why are you complaining on these boards? If you care so much about getting a Rt hero, go out there and start playing and try to beat it instead of wasting your time and energy here complaining and asking to make it easier.
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The op is requesting that it be made easier, not whining, (s)he is requesting. Not a very hard concept to grasp now then is it.
I don't really care about the whole rahza thing, but as the poster above me said. Why? It doesn't make any logical sense :S.
Mad King Corn
I agree 100% with the topic title. It needs to be changed so that its easier to get the ritualist. It's way too unfair now, perhaps it can be fixed to allow a PVE character to get trading in Luxon or Kurzick faction points? This would allow at least most people in the game to get him.
This is one petition I will gladly sign!
/signed
This is one petition I will gladly sign!
/signed
nightwatchman
The Razah thing really doesn't make any sense to me. Anet have always made GW so that everybody can get perfect items (greens and collectors brought perfect items to the masses, etc.)
The elite areas were all about players getting nice skins on their weapons, etc, but they've never been able to get items that are impossible for non-elite players.
I'm all for that, because the game mechanics put a cap on what you can equip so after a while looks is all that matters. (fissure armor ftw)
Razah on the other hand is a game mechanic. There is no choice for getting a ritualist hero except by completing these missions. You can't get a "common-skin" rit hero.
The elite areas were all about players getting nice skins on their weapons, etc, but they've never been able to get items that are impossible for non-elite players.
I'm all for that, because the game mechanics put a cap on what you can equip so after a while looks is all that matters. (fissure armor ftw)
Razah on the other hand is a game mechanic. There is no choice for getting a ritualist hero except by completing these missions. You can't get a "common-skin" rit hero.
vergerefosh
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/not signed
Don't suck and you'll get Razah eventually. |
Got nothing to do with sucking, and a lot more to do with people being elitist and snobby
"I'm soo cool, i'm so leet, you can't come in my group as you can't fit my nice little build plan, and you're not a max LB"
/signed
viper008
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Again, it isn't neccessary. It's not like a.net ate your first born child or something. Its a freaking game. Have a hyernia elsewhere and stop complaining. It isn't that big of a deal. If you can't be bothered to try to beat the domain of anguish, then why are you complaining on these boards? If you care so much about getting a Rt hero, go out there and start playing and try to beat it instead of wasting your time and energy here complaining and asking to make it easier.
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So like it or not complainers are here to stay and you don't have to read and reply too their post.........................
Bel
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Originally Posted by vergerefosh
Got nothing to do with sucking, and a lot more to do with people being elitist and snobby
"I'm soo cool, i'm so leet, you can't come in my group as you can't fit my nice little build plan, and you're not a max LB" |
Cherrie
/signed
As someone already said, Elite Missions provide extras - more leet skins etc for some to show off, but not things that can not be counterparted. Sure, Rit hero isn't necesary, neither are ANY heroes (apart from the fact that they are needed for N missions) since we have hench. The way to obtain Razah should be changed in my oppinion so that every average player can obtain him - just because he can not be couterparted. Add 3rd leet monk with fancy looks and make him cost 50 gems, but not a hero who's proffesion is missing from the current set of heroes.
As someone already said, Elite Missions provide extras - more leet skins etc for some to show off, but not things that can not be counterparted. Sure, Rit hero isn't necesary, neither are ANY heroes (apart from the fact that they are needed for N missions) since we have hench. The way to obtain Razah should be changed in my oppinion so that every average player can obtain him - just because he can not be couterparted. Add 3rd leet monk with fancy looks and make him cost 50 gems, but not a hero who's proffesion is missing from the current set of heroes.
Hell Marauder
/signed
Had Razah been a "switchable" hero, he would've earned the right to be in an elite area. But now he is just a rit, he should be in normal areas like all other heroes.
Had Razah been a "switchable" hero, he would've earned the right to be in an elite area. But now he is just a rit, he should be in normal areas like all other heroes.
MithranArkanere
We'll I actually made an suggestion about heroes, and stated my opinion about this somewhere else, but...
#1 If you don't own factions Razah is useless.
#2 Each campaing has two unique classes...
#3 To make ritualists and assasins and get the most of their skills you need factions.
#4 Factions gives the Assasin heroine. But not a Ritualist.
#5 There are two heroes of each core class, but member.
#6 There is one hero of each campaing-only class, but the ritualist is receiben after beating 4 madly hard lite missions.
What we get?
*Prophecies should give another mesmer.
*Factions should give the ritualist.
*Razah should be really variable
#1 If you don't own factions Razah is useless.
#2 Each campaing has two unique classes...
#3 To make ritualists and assasins and get the most of their skills you need factions.
#4 Factions gives the Assasin heroine. But not a Ritualist.
#5 There are two heroes of each core class, but member.
#6 There is one hero of each campaing-only class, but the ritualist is receiben after beating 4 madly hard lite missions.
What we get?
*Prophecies should give another mesmer.
*Factions should give the ritualist.
*Razah should be really variable
marshy man
give it a week and the eliteness wontbe so elite anymore...
Curse You
/signed
There is no other ritualist hero available, however there is a hero for every other profession. As it is right now, in order to get a simple Ritualist hero, you have to do the most difficult area in Nightfall.
The worst part is, PvP players can get the same hero for only 6,000 Balthazar Faction.
Try telling me that's good balance between PvE and PvP players.
There is no other ritualist hero available, however there is a hero for every other profession. As it is right now, in order to get a simple Ritualist hero, you have to do the most difficult area in Nightfall.
The worst part is, PvP players can get the same hero for only 6,000 Balthazar Faction.
Try telling me that's good balance between PvE and PvP players.
Randomway Ftw
Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
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/End Sarcasm
Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him.
Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything.
Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No.
!!!11
/End Sarcasm
Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him.
Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything.
Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No.
Bel
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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw
Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11 /End Sarcasm Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him. Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything. Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No. |
Do we have the right for feedback? Yes.
Sarevok Thordin
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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw
Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11 /End Sarcasm Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him. Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything. Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No. |
Cherrie
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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw
Come on Anet make the game super easy, I'm too lazy to get off my ass and actualy learn to play a succesful build, give me Razah without any work111!!!1
!!!11 /End Sarcasm Seriously, it was Anet's choice whether to include Razah at all, and now you bitch because the didn't give it to you on a silver platter and you actually have to, guess what? Play the game to get him. Remember you are playing against static unchanging AI, you can change your skills to exactly counter their skills and they wont do anything. Seriously just play the game and get Razah. Do you need Razah? No. Is Razah necessary? No. |
I won't give you the anwser on the silver plate, since you wouldnt like that I suppose, so here you have a quest: read the post and find out why we actually want the way rit hero appears in pve changed. Quest difficulty : noob, if you have IQ at at least 1+ that is.
Kool Pajamas
/signed
There is no reason why a simple rit hero should be in an elite area where its hard to even find a decent group. And you are required to party with at least 1 other person since there are no hench.
There is no reason why a simple rit hero should be in an elite area where its hard to even find a decent group. And you are required to party with at least 1 other person since there are no hench.
Curse You
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The worst part is, PvP players can get the same hero for only 6,000 Balthazar Faction.
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I just tried getting Razah via PvP. It took me about 2 hours of playing RA.
Now, how long does it take to get all the gemstones you need to get Razah in PvE?
Traveller
I would also say it's a bit imbalanced between PvE and PvP players, especially compared to how you can acquire the other heroes. So yes, I would /sign this.
Kai Nui
When I heard of Razah, that was probably the only thing I was looking forward too when I played Nightfall. Now that we find he's a lousy ritualist, Guild Wars just feels like a huge shit hole. Thanks for this major let down.
The Ernada
First, this isnt a petition to make DoA easier. People just want Razah to be separate from the Elite mission. It's okay to make DoA hard but making it mandatory to go into the mission to get Razah seems a bit too much.
The problem is that all the other heroes are easily obtained. Then suddenly there's one hero, not even a special one like a variable one, is tenfold as hard to obtain. He is definately not a "FoW" type hero because there are no other replacements for him, it's not like we can get a "cheaper" version of him somewhere else. There are no other ritualist heroes and that's a problem.
Especially since this is a Factions profession in a Nightfall elite mission. This whole thing doesnt make sense.
The problem is that all the other heroes are easily obtained. Then suddenly there's one hero, not even a special one like a variable one, is tenfold as hard to obtain. He is definately not a "FoW" type hero because there are no other replacements for him, it's not like we can get a "cheaper" version of him somewhere else. There are no other ritualist heroes and that's a problem.
Especially since this is a Factions profession in a Nightfall elite mission. This whole thing doesnt make sense.