Are you going to buy the next chapter?
Sir Skullcrasher
I don't know, Guild Wars is fun but the fun factor is going down with release of new chapters. Also like many peoples said, the level of interaction with real players is declining. We are now using heroes or henchies to do missions and quests rather than spending time getting a real group for it. I'm going to wait it out and see if Chapter 4 offer anything new gameplay-wise and if there any new improvement that make this game fun again.
natuxatu
It is sad that PuG are getting less and less.
Will I buy the next Chapter? Depends on how much I enjoy Spellborn I guess
(or if a new mmo catches my eye) Since GW I've tried D&D:Online and EQ2 but neither kept my interest (especially the first one)
On the flip side DoA requires people to work together more so than not (at least for the time being.) Perhaps if they put less difficult areas in the main story where henchmen were missing (for some reason that fix with the story) then more players would join together.
In short: I'll buy the next Chapter unless another I find another game I enjoy just as much if not more.
Will I buy the next Chapter? Depends on how much I enjoy Spellborn I guess
(or if a new mmo catches my eye) Since GW I've tried D&D:Online and EQ2 but neither kept my interest (especially the first one)On the flip side DoA requires people to work together more so than not (at least for the time being.) Perhaps if they put less difficult areas in the main story where henchmen were missing (for some reason that fix with the story) then more players would join together.
In short: I'll buy the next Chapter unless another I find another game I enjoy just as much if not more.
Antheus
Cry4attention, all of it.
Chapter 4 hasn't been even announced. How many of you will NOT buy Spiral Race and Spiral Race: The Dome City expansion? And let's not forget the #1 game not to buy: Blue Racer. (all those titles may or may not apear in next 50 years).
If you like it, buy it, if not, then don't. But debating about an as of yet unnanounced chapter in past tense in a form that implies it's the chapter that killed GW is silly.
So you won't buy GW. There's lots of people out there like you, and more will join you. And then there's those that will, and more will join them.
This isn't a subscription game. Nobody cares if you do or do not, if you stay or leave. This is why GW works. It doesn't rely on subscription numbers and steady population. It's the secret of GW's success.
But seriously - Whining of highest degree. "I'm not buying something that may or may not be good just because it may or may not be good".
If anyone doesn't buy Chapter 4 on prejudice (btw, what is Chapter 4 about, what will it add, improve, etc.), then you're not a customer anyway. Who cares what you think.
And above all, it all comes down to two things, auction house, and storage, the perpetual whines about something that was never needed. This game isn't about hoarding items or trading loot. This is why they don't add it. Because if that's your only concern (farming), you're not the target market, and never were. Additions to storage will be made when needed, but the future of game doesn't depend on it.
Chapter 4 hasn't been even announced. How many of you will NOT buy Spiral Race and Spiral Race: The Dome City expansion? And let's not forget the #1 game not to buy: Blue Racer. (all those titles may or may not apear in next 50 years).
If you like it, buy it, if not, then don't. But debating about an as of yet unnanounced chapter in past tense in a form that implies it's the chapter that killed GW is silly.
So you won't buy GW. There's lots of people out there like you, and more will join you. And then there's those that will, and more will join them.
This isn't a subscription game. Nobody cares if you do or do not, if you stay or leave. This is why GW works. It doesn't rely on subscription numbers and steady population. It's the secret of GW's success.
But seriously - Whining of highest degree. "I'm not buying something that may or may not be good just because it may or may not be good".
If anyone doesn't buy Chapter 4 on prejudice (btw, what is Chapter 4 about, what will it add, improve, etc.), then you're not a customer anyway. Who cares what you think.
And above all, it all comes down to two things, auction house, and storage, the perpetual whines about something that was never needed. This game isn't about hoarding items or trading loot. This is why they don't add it. Because if that's your only concern (farming), you're not the target market, and never were. Additions to storage will be made when needed, but the future of game doesn't depend on it.
Loviatar
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i disagree and the proof that the majority of playere disagree with the *even a negative experience* is what i want is simple.
there have been few anti hero threads and even those have a bunch of pro hero posts.
also aside from a few *any human contact no matter how bad is better than nothing* players most *as demonstrated by the people who complains own observations* people are welcoming the heroes with open arms saying
*thank you for freeing me from the jerk PUG people*
they have been given a choice and the choice seems clear
heroes FTW
i love my MM and little Barage Ranger supported by my Protective monk
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PVE + heros isn't as horrible, but i'm pretty sure most people play an online rpg for the player interaction, even if it's a negative one.[/QUOTE]
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there have been few anti hero threads and even those have a bunch of pro hero posts.
also aside from a few *any human contact no matter how bad is better than nothing* players most *as demonstrated by the people who complains own observations* people are welcoming the heroes with open arms saying
*thank you for freeing me from the jerk PUG people*
they have been given a choice and the choice seems clear
heroes FTW
i love my MM and little Barage Ranger supported by my Protective monk
I MP I
I doubt I'll be buying chapter 4 or any other future chapters. I'm getting old and loosing interest in video games at this point.
gabrial heart
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PS I've yet to play Jade Quarry mission. Not cause it's too hard, but because there is no one there. Is it a good mission? Was it fun? If A-net could come up with a way for me to try it out (focus on jade weekend?) it might improve my outlook on the company as a whole. As it stands, it's just an empty outpost... I'm sure that wasn't intended.
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birdfoot
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I dont think negative opinion is a bad thing since those are valid.
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I forgot to add that I think such posts are better done in polls for anonymity. With all the heat going on from the dicsussion, at least eventually we might still see some numbers.
Gwmaster
even if im am bored to death and dont play gw as much as before i will buy the next chapter because...well just because.
edit: Birdfoot did i already told you i liked your avatar?
edit: Birdfoot did i already told you i liked your avatar?
gene terrodon
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...I find being in a district of 30-40 people in many of the areas and no one spamming for a pug a greater issue, but I'm obviously in the minority in that view I know. Being forced to hero/hench the game because of this has not been fun to me by any means....
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I am on the fence.
I hate having to hench/hero 70% of the game, that’s not why I bought it.
I missed the days in Tyria and Cantha where you could find a group to do everything...from skill caps, to questing, to missions and green farming. That is now becoming a thing of the past. All the way to HoH, you can play solo...that is just wrong. Why would I want to play in a PvP arena with NPCs?
One human and 5 hench/heroes doesn't count as PvP in my eyes.
I'll buy it if multiplayer gaming, PvE and PvP, are enhanced and wont consider purchasing if they continue down the path to a...lets just say Final Fantasy type RPG. Where it's you and a bunch of bots that you tell what to do.
luinks
No I won't buy it
Enchanted Warrior
Probably not. One deciding factor is the rampant elitest attitude many have in game now. They act as mean and nasty as they can and think they are cool. Maybe I'm just turning into an old fart who knows, but four letter word barrages, lieing, cheating, bullying etc.. is just getting old. Perhaps that's the state of online games in general. And do not take this as a slam on the younger players, they are fine and well mannered. It's the adults, the "You suck" attitude is so rampant it sickens me. Thank goodness for the addition of heroes, however lng or short my future time in game will be, I won't be wasting my time on forming/joining pugs anymore..
gabrial heart
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I don't disagree, there are many people that play mmo's that would rather solo and have totally welcomed the heros. But, to maintain an online rpg only to focus it's course to solo play just doesn't sit right with me. I've put a lot of my attention into the guild and other players, moreso then I've PUG'd the game. I have been entertained thouroughly by our interaction, even when we fail over and over. It seems to be a waste to put so much resources into hench/hero AI so that people can avoid bad PUG's in a MMORPG. Based then on popular demand, anet could take GW offline and not loose much in player base and prolly save a ton of dough. It's not anyones fault per say, and is the reason the few of us aren't hero fans, simply because most people don't want to get in a bad PUG and go hero/hench the game instead.
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i disagree and the proof that the majority of playere disagree with the *even a negative experience* is what i want is simple. there have been few anti hero threads and even those have a bunch of pro hero posts. also aside from a few *any human contact no matter how bad is better than nothing* players most *as demonstrated by the people who complains own observations* people are welcoming the heroes with open arms saying *thank you for freeing me from the jerk PUG people* they have been given a choice and the choice seems clear heroes FTW i love my MM and little Barage Ranger supported by my Protective monk |
The Ernada
I agree with Lyra Song. Some of these people act like they've been abused by Anet and demand reparations with unreasonable demands.
And yes, I'll most likely buy the next Chapter. I do hope for more improvements and changes so that things dont get stagnant though, considering it will be the fourth installment. This is probably one of the few games that I've stuck with for so long.
And yes, I'll most likely buy the next Chapter. I do hope for more improvements and changes so that things dont get stagnant though, considering it will be the fourth installment. This is probably one of the few games that I've stuck with for so long.
gestalt
Well it depends on how good chapter 4 is of course. But if it is as good as Nightfall then yes.
Guild Wars is one of the best CRPGs ever made as far as I am concerned. The class/feat design is top notch. Most online RPGs are quite mediocre RPG-wise. But Guild Wars is actually better in many regards than many offline RPGs. I don't care about all the other MMORPG crap people try to lump onto Guild Wars, half that stuff is bunk or just the perpetual whiners that are par for the course the "we are selling a service but actually sellnig you an investment *wink* *wink* so keep paying us so you can access your investment" paradigm games.
Guild Wars sells you content with a very very good RPG setting. I consider each Guild Wars purchase to have been as good of a purchase as buying Neverwinter Nights or its expansions or buying Fallout 2.
Secondly I do not burn myself out on Guild Wars I play whenever I feel like it. So I have no reason to not buy another chapter of a game I think is good. And I am not trying to substiute some persistent world or world simulation style MMO with GW and trying to make it something its not.
Guild Wars is one of the best CRPGs ever made as far as I am concerned. The class/feat design is top notch. Most online RPGs are quite mediocre RPG-wise. But Guild Wars is actually better in many regards than many offline RPGs. I don't care about all the other MMORPG crap people try to lump onto Guild Wars, half that stuff is bunk or just the perpetual whiners that are par for the course the "we are selling a service but actually sellnig you an investment *wink* *wink* so keep paying us so you can access your investment" paradigm games.
Guild Wars sells you content with a very very good RPG setting. I consider each Guild Wars purchase to have been as good of a purchase as buying Neverwinter Nights or its expansions or buying Fallout 2.
Secondly I do not burn myself out on Guild Wars I play whenever I feel like it. So I have no reason to not buy another chapter of a game I think is good. And I am not trying to substiute some persistent world or world simulation style MMO with GW and trying to make it something its not.
The Lich Ranger
Of course.. it doesnt matter what they really do to Guild Wars, i will always buy it ^_^
broodijzer
I'll wait some reviews
I really enjoyed all games, but I've seen it all. it's all more of the some, nothing really new. Nightfall is a cool game, but I just don't feel like playing it again with another char. most of my playtime now is in prophecies, which says enough I think.
after 12 months and 800 hours, GW has lost it's magic for me. Happens with every game doesn't it
I really enjoyed all games, but I've seen it all. it's all more of the some, nothing really new. Nightfall is a cool game, but I just don't feel like playing it again with another char. most of my playtime now is in prophecies, which says enough I think.
after 12 months and 800 hours, GW has lost it's magic for me. Happens with every game doesn't it
trialist
This is kinda a silly thread don't you think? What does it matter if other people will or will not buy the next chapter? Ultimately it is yourself who will decide whether you want to buy the chapter or not. If you are so disgusted with guild wars that you will never touch another chapter, will a hundred people saying that they will buy the game change your mind? Obviously not.
Similiarly, if you are so besotted with guild wars, that you will buy the next chapter even if it only contained 1 new area and nothing else, will a hundred people saying they won't buy, change your mind? Again obviously not.
You have your reasons for buying/not buying, same as everyone else but i am pretty sure whether or not you will/will not buy the next chapter has already been decided to some extent and a bunch of people saying buying, not buying isn't going to change anything.
Similiarly, if you are so besotted with guild wars, that you will buy the next chapter even if it only contained 1 new area and nothing else, will a hundred people saying they won't buy, change your mind? Again obviously not.
You have your reasons for buying/not buying, same as everyone else but i am pretty sure whether or not you will/will not buy the next chapter has already been decided to some extent and a bunch of people saying buying, not buying isn't going to change anything.
Sakki
Of course I will buy it! After playing through Nightfall its the best chapter ever! I think the next chapter would be even better
lacasner
No, just because there will be some "leet" new games coming out (warhammer, lotro) and I have lost hope in the devs of this game.
TheBaron82
I will buy it. Just because I want more skills, there is only ONE request I have for Anet . Please Do not release a Beta version of the game! Yes it will be fix later on and all but stuff like skills not working properly and bad lags kill the game.
Enchanted Warrior
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This is kinda a silly thread don't you think? What does it matter if other people will or will not buy the next chapter? Ultimately it is yourself who will decide whether you want to buy the chapter or not. If you are so disgusted with guild wars that you will never touch another chapter, will a hundred people saying that they will buy the game change your mind? Obviously not.
Similiarly, if you are so besotted with guild wars, that you will buy the next chapter even if it only contained 1 new area and nothing else, will a hundred people saying they won't buy, change your mind? Again obviously not. You have your reasons for buying/not buying, same as everyone else but i am pretty sure whether or not you will/will not buy the next chapter has already been decided to some extent and a bunch of people saying buying, not buying isn't going to change anything. |
The Ernada
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Then why even respond? (or is trolling a passtime?) LOL
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I'm tired of people accusing others of trolling just because they disagreed with them.
Thallandor
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5. The impression that I am being embittered is distressing. With the majority of games there is the tendency for the game to cheat in order to create the illusion of a challenge.
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steelwill
If the Realm of Torment and Domain of Anguish are an indication of where this franchise is going, then no. I'm sure Anet put a lot of time and effort into these areas, but sadly not enough to actually make it enjoyable. Frustrating area effects and areas that encourage playing gimmick builds or not at all is not my idea of fun. Ironically this drove me to play more pvp, which also has me rather disgruntled over this game at the moment.
Hand of Ruin
Most likely no. Unless there are some REAL improvments, and changes, then no. I really am not interested in more content, I have lots of content to play through now with three chapters and eight characters, what I am looking for is some real improvements and new aspects of the game. Heros were great, but next chapters is gonna have to have something more innovative and game-changing than that, otherwise I'm content to just go back and start doing all the quests I've skipped and unlock all the primary proffession skills for all my characters ect...
Once that is done, perhaps I'd buy another chapter, but if "new content" is their only selling premise, then no.
Once that is done, perhaps I'd buy another chapter, but if "new content" is their only selling premise, then no.
Blessed Winds
Complaints...
complaints...
I'm buying the new chapter.
Getting your game to expand with a new continent every six months is the same price as paying the P2P fees on WoW or most other MMORPGs.
If you don't like heroes, don't use them. If you can't find people to party with, you can easily make a few friends, join a guild.
Besides, GW is alot better, more action-packed, and more multi-player based than many other games out there, so I'll support it fully.
If you're sick of the game, don't rant about it. This game is updated very frequently, it's perfect. Everyone is just demanding too much from a game, that's what's making it less enjoyable.
complaints...
I'm buying the new chapter.
Getting your game to expand with a new continent every six months is the same price as paying the P2P fees on WoW or most other MMORPGs.
If you don't like heroes, don't use them. If you can't find people to party with, you can easily make a few friends, join a guild.
Besides, GW is alot better, more action-packed, and more multi-player based than many other games out there, so I'll support it fully.
If you're sick of the game, don't rant about it. This game is updated very frequently, it's perfect. Everyone is just demanding too much from a game, that's what's making it less enjoyable.
Red-Tide
nope I wont buy it...
valtonray
yes i'll definatly be buying the next expansion. so what if solo builds get nerfed... we've always found new one's and as more skills become avaible we will continue to do so. sure hero's can be idiots at times with sacraficing skills but you should have thought about that before equiping them.
Malice Black
No.
Hopefully something better will have been released by then.
Hopefully something better will have been released by then.
Blackhawk
Lets just say I wont be rushing out to pre-order again.
I'll wait until I see how my characters been kicked in the nuts again first.
I'll wait until I see how my characters been kicked in the nuts again first.
lacasner
Admin, don't you feel any sentimental value to all the millions you made playing? I just can't give em up so easily like you...
It pains me but I feel similar to you as well though.
It pains me but I feel similar to you as well though.
Maria The Princess
im not buying it
why? its all in the previous posts (about gw becoming a single player game with a chat)
oh ya, and the person who i enjoyed playing with the most rage quittted (if i say why ill see flames goin on so ill leave this one out)
why? its all in the previous posts (about gw becoming a single player game with a chat)
oh ya, and the person who i enjoyed playing with the most rage quittted (if i say why ill see flames goin on so ill leave this one out)
Loviatar
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Complaints...
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WOW
15 dollars per month times 12 months equals 180 dollars (US)
GW 2 chapters 12 months.
50 dollars chapter one plus 50 dollars for chapter two equals 100 dollars (US)
why bless my soul that is 80 dollats more for WOW which is almost (80 %) twice as much.
i guess your figures were close enough for government work <snicker>
Sidra
Unless it's the bomb-diggity game of the century, I will not be buying it. I'm really (to try to do it without flaming) more than a bit fed up with the company (for my own reasons and experiences) and do not see myself paying for Alex Weekes' subway in the near future.
Sooty
I am a hardcore guild wars addict and never thought id say this about a future guild wars expansion but I honestly don't know if i would buy it the way im feeling at the moment. Aside from playing through the main storyline which I find fun and entertaining, ANET has taken away everything else that made me keep playing. Namely 55/135 etc farming (which can still be done in limited areas granted but it's just not the same) and chest running. These two things were pretty much what I did once I'd played through the storyline a few times. Chest running was my social activity with my guild and other random chest runners you'd meet up with, and farming was what i did when there was noone around to chest run. At first my guild was solely a chest running group, we recruited far and wide since but i've noticed that the old guys who were on every day chest running etc are the ones who aren't on very much these days. It's funny how such a small change can make such a big negative impact on some of us.
I'm on my 3rd char through the nightfall storyline and I'm just not that into it now. There's not a lot else to do that I personally find entertaining. Green farming was fun for a while, made a ton of gold but even that's old now. Domain of anguish is good to have but it's more of a challenge activity, something more likely to frustrate than entertain.
Perhaps i'm in a very small minority that feels this way but imo the things that made guild wars fun once you'd played through the main story of a chapter and were waiting for the next one, just aren't there now. So I find myself logging on less and less.
I'm on my 3rd char through the nightfall storyline and I'm just not that into it now. There's not a lot else to do that I personally find entertaining. Green farming was fun for a while, made a ton of gold but even that's old now. Domain of anguish is good to have but it's more of a challenge activity, something more likely to frustrate than entertain.
Perhaps i'm in a very small minority that feels this way but imo the things that made guild wars fun once you'd played through the main story of a chapter and were waiting for the next one, just aren't there now. So I find myself logging on less and less.
Tookis Elite
99.9999999999% hellllllll no
unless it comes with a 100$ bill inside the box im not wastin more money....
unless it comes with a 100$ bill inside the box im not wastin more money....
trialist
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Then why even respond? (or is trolling a passtime?) LOL
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If you want to prove me wrong that this thread is silly, go on, grab anyone who posted enthusiastically that they will buy the next chapter and convince them not to, likewise, grab anyone who posted in disgust, "No, it sucks" and convince them to buy. I highly doubt you will change any of their minds. The only purpose this thread has is for those on the fence, but without even an actual chapter 4 out to examine and criticise, what's the point of saying buying/not buying?
The Ernada
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The only purpose this thread has is for those on the fence, but without even an actual chapter 4 out to examine and criticise, what's the point of saying buying/not buying?
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BoredJoe
Probably not. GW's whole business model depends on releasing new chapters every 6 months ie, 1 year to build a new continent, create new missions, quests, environments, armours,.. ie more of the same. After looking at Nightfall I'm inclined to think they don't have the resources to make major additions or improvements to the game e.g trade improvements, storage, lfg system, after creating the base content for the next chapter. It'll be more quantity to heap onto the casual player, rather than enhancing what's there already to make the game itself more fun to play.
The next chapter may not have 60 missions and 500 quests but it'll sure feel like it.
The next chapter may not have 60 missions and 500 quests but it'll sure feel like it.
Clone
Undecided, but the further GW goes to make players more valuable for spending hours grinding, the further my answer moves toward "No!" My furthest character is still only at the third level of lightbringer. Maxing this on multiple characters is out of the question. When you combine this with new areas like DoA where every percent of damage you can do is more likely to get you into a group, Guild Wars looses some of the elements that first drew me to the game.