E/Me Smite only run: Mass aggro and quick!

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Not yet......

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

this has not been nerfed, but the whole loot system has been nerfed.
Dont expect to get any money from mobs. Tho, you receive all the normal items, as long as its not money. Got an ecto this morning while doing e/me uw, just the money drops suck and making an uw run alot less profitable.

Machinae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007



From an entire smite run. I'm not sure I even made back the 1k entry fee.

Oh, and this is the first run I've done in weeks, so it's not anti-farm code. :/

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan
ahahahah lmao all the farm is now pwned, the Emperor's might is great, amen, thank you very much Arena Net for PWNING farmers Well that doesn't relate to this topic in any sense

On topic, That picture machinea the horror

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan
ahahahah lmao all the farm is now pwned, the Emperor's might is great, amen, thank you very much Arena Net for PWNING farmers Prick, you dont need gold or something? Buy a nice set of armor? Wait, you'll just cry, get money from mommy and daddy and start ebay tigering! Pathetic little excuse for a human...

For some ppl solo farming is the last frontier to get items, after finishing the game. A final goal, and now its destroyed...

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Well, something good:

"Repeated map entry no longer reduces loot."

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Only problem with that though and FoW map is it's costing 1,000 gold to get into it. Now, if you got back your gold entirely from after selling things (and including the gold you obtain), it's ok.

Yeah, it might not be as profitable - but we're still soloing UW!

Rebel, you have a point but be weary - don't go and get a fire started. No one needs to get burned. Just know that your doing what most of us do properly, and don't abuse it like some people will and would because (s)he does not have the patience to farm for that armor, that weapon or any of the above.

lawby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

X Fatal Prescription X [Rx]

E/

sure repeated map entry doesnt reduce drops, thats great. But what drops are there to reduce? :/

Meth Kort

Meth Kort

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Portugal

Demonic Swarm

N/

drop rate HAS BEEN nerfed, basically when you are going for a SOLO farm there are like more 7 invensible henchies in your party

SkowroN

SkowroN

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Proud member of [LAoD]

R/

read dev update - Ectos are unaffected by loot scaling so we just need to figure out how to solo UW in Hard now

Meth Kort

Meth Kort

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Portugal

Demonic Swarm

N/

Didn't know that part oh well I thought if we put a hero in our party and let him die at the beggining to not mess, the drop rate would be fine again (?)

Machinae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Yeah, I took that screenshot before that update. Once we get favor I'll try again in hard mode and see how much harder it is.

Pickletron

Pickletron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

[Godz]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machinae
Yeah, I took that screenshot before that update. Once we get favor I'll try again in hard mode and see how much harder it is. Level 25 Dying Nightmares did 50-70 damage to me, stripped my enchantments, and you can't wand them to death.. D:
(Tried trapping too, having a staff and not meeting it's req.. me and 3 guildies couldn't take one 1 nightmare ^_^)

Machinae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

You got that far? I ended up pulling the aataxe when getting the quest and with their 50% speed boost I didn't last long. I guess maybe dash could help, but you couldn't keep it up for long.

Despite this, I got told that I "wasn't ready for hard mode" when enterring, even though I've completed the campaign (Prophecies, I was going from ToA) on another char.

Pickletron

Pickletron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

[Godz]

R/Mo

Yeah I got some "You aren't good enough, hard mode disabled" message when I entered the UnderWorld.

It wasn't disabled. o.o

Dires

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Fellowship Of Flanders

D/

I am having problems pulling the graspings. I just aggro 1 group of graspings but the aatxes always attack me too :S please help

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Grasps follow you nearly everywhere, just run a bit more in and the aatxes won't follow you.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

Anyone have any HM luck with this? With the nightmares juiced up to lvl 26, and the aaxtes now following to no end, I'm not sure its possible with this build.

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by =DNC=Trucker
Anyone have any HM luck with this? With the nightmares juiced up to lvl 26, and the aaxtes now following to no end, I'm not sure its possible with this build. It wasn't made for HM and there is no Smite Run Build for HM yet.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

OK I'll get to work.

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

You can't outrun the aatxes in HM so the only way to get to the smites is by killing the aatxe's too.

Like drupal said, this isn't designed to kill the aatxes.

If you're only going for the ecto's, NM is faster and therefore best for it.

Lord Naike

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Austria

Knights Online [KO]

W/Mo

I just got this build.
i used VwK and my own W/Any build (also aatxe solo), and the 330hp rt.
But my own build is very very hard to use, the 330hp rt sucks, because dying nightmares will kill you in a second.
And VwK is so slow.
Now i got this, and I've wasted even the last 10k i had on trying to kill the graspings...
I put the 3 enchants on, and rinning skill on lure them.
Go in the middle, count to 5...
Then i have to cast AV, and then i wait again, cast stone flesh shit on me, and then i try to use the dmg skills but i get interrupted, sometimes i even get interrupted in casting stone flesh sperma on me.

i know its not your fault, but im RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing tired its like 3am here and i had a long day and i lost my only 10k lol :/
And i cant even use the build.
And couldnt you merge this build with kinetic armor to kill aatxes too.`?

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Killing aatxes would be a waste of time, they have tons of health and therefore take too long to kill. Thats why smite runs were 'invented' , if you're in need of ectos you have to kill them.

About the graspings, it can be hard if you first try it like you said.
All I can tell you is attack them with your wand/sword/axe etc, they will use their distracting blow because they want to interrupt your 'action'. They normally start with a distracting blow anyway, so make sure you watch their moves. When you see they have all used it (count it, the distracting blow has a different sound and animation), you are save to put av on and kill them.

Practice makes perfect.

And don't panic if you ever get interrupted, you don't really need stoneflesh to survive against them. Just go on with your attack cycle and they will be dead before they can kill you.

Absoluum

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

How do you manage to have 13sec of AV.
I heard that sympathetic visage was exactly the same as AV. If this is true, what did you do to get 13sec AV?

I haven't bought factions which is why I am concerned.

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

This build is really old and probably isnt worth it. With SV and AV lasting only 7 seconds due to nerf and nightmares rending encahnts is only 1 second cast it doesnt have alot of use now. I reccomend warrior/rit for almost guarenteed success and rt/warrior for speed.

Hyprodimus Prime

Hyprodimus Prime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Vancouver BC

Sorrow Masters

E/

no....Its been tested after every nerf. Ive tested it myself on those conditions with good(?) results. I have the question mark there because I still dont get amny ectos, but runs still are about 10-12 mins for me.

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
This build is really old and probably isnt worth it. With SV and AV lasting only 7 seconds due to nerf and nightmares rending encahnts is only 1 second cast it doesnt have alot of use now. I reccomend warrior/rit for almost guarenteed success and rt/warrior for speed. If you say that this build isn't worth it... the warrior build does exactly the same. Also it's absolutely no problem with changes of AV/SV to do the run.

If you're having trouble with nightmares run in and let the nightmares pop out, after this you can easily kill them and accept Clear the Chamber.

Cropheus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Prophecy

E/

can this build still be used, as i am struggeling extremely with this build. The Grasplings kill me each time with their interrupts.

Any Help??

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Yes it still can be used.

Cast Mantra, Stone Striker, Storm Djinns, Stone Flesh & aggro Grasps. Let then use their Distracting Blow, once they all have used it cast Ancestors, wait a few seconds then cast SandStorm, StoneFlesh again, wait for sandstorm to do 4 hits of damage then cast Dragons Stomp then AfterShock. The grasps should be dead.

Rinse & repeat for the other 2 groups of Graspings.

GL HF!

Dark Interception

Dark Interception

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

When mastered this build is an incredibly easy uw run, I made about 20 ectos last 2 days. Its worth it.

yui

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

With E/Me build i can finish a run in around 11 minutes depending on spawns. My personal record is 9 minutes.
I'm looking for an eventual Hero's setup tho. Just to speed up the pre-smiter phase.
Anyone has got any idea?

BTW the fastest way for graspings is this:
cast the enches + SDjing aggro them, wait them to use all the DBlow, then cast AVisage. If not much time has passed since the 1st DBlow then immediatly start casting Sandstorm, otherwise wait 2 seconds. Wait for the 4th hit of SS (yes your enchentment is ended) and start casting Earthquake + Aftershock. They will die with the combo and you'll have about 50-75% hp left.
After activating the quest take immediatly the first group on the left. If you are fast enough you'll be able to kill all the 3 groups without even waste any time (watch out for sandstorm skill recharge tho...)

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by yui
I'm looking for an eventual Hero's setup tho. Just to speed up the pre-smiter phase.
Anyone has got any idea? Hmm, would be interesting. It's not that I think the graspings are slow now, but ye I guess it's always nice to shape off more time (too bad we can't lure all 3 groups at once like in the 'old' days).

Guess we gotta lure them in 1 spot (next to the right stairs), and rape with alot AOE. Casters should probably have mantra of resolve.

PathOfPerfection

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Does this build still works?

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Can you still read?

yui

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

This build still works but the point is if that's profitable anymore.
Assuming you do 5 runs per hour, and 1 ecto per run, makes 5 ecto in 1 hour...+ goods (if there are any, that's it) - 5k entrance fee.
Since ectos arent worth a lot anymore, that would make a profit of around 20-30k / hour, depending on rares (such gold items).
And no, this build cant be run in HM.

P.S. always remeber to bring a longbow so it ll be easier to pull more groups of smiters.

Actually i've been told of a setup of Monk+SS+nuker for graspings, but it is rather slow. I think that no Hero setup would help to speeding up the run. ( maybe for DN check you save some seconds...)

.fant0m

.fant0m

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Local trash

Where The Dead Angels (lie)

W/

Great build,i watch videos, and i have one question, can i use another elite besides Sandstorm, if yes, pls tell me name.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Nope. E/Me can use only Sandstorm. You can go E/A and use Shadow Form + nuking spells... But dunno which one is more effective. E/A is kinda harder to play with.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/E_UW_Farmer

Dont worry, A/E means you have few secs of SF more, but elementalist has a lot more energy to throw on smites/graspings.

yui

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

there are many other solo Ele builds for UW, but this is the most effective and the fastest.

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

is this faster than
meteor shower/bed of coals?

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hmm hard to say. Only thing is probably, if you want the fire version to be as fast as this earth version you have to lure multiple (in other words, all smites/enemies in the area) groups at once. Otherwise waiting for MS to recharge (60 sec) would take too long.

I did both, but fact that I'm still using this version says enough I think.