E/Me Smite only run: Mass aggro and quick!
Arcane Guardian
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Originally Posted by mrlopes
Arcane,
It's a little hard in the beginning, before you learn the patrol paths, and know when to lure, you will spend some gold in the beginning and maybe become frustrated but relax, training makes perfection, and after you have some experience this run is very very easy.
It's hard to explain all the run, DL the video, and watch very careful, after that put your questions here.
And after take the quest from ghost, don't forget to target yourself or SV/AV won't work
(Everyone do this in the beggining )
In UW there's no much space for mistakes, so!!! Well, first of all, thanks for the reply. I have seen the video already- the run itself indeed seems to be very easy there. It was the reason I decided to try going to the UW. I am a longtime GW player, but dont play with people much. And thats why i have never been there. Both full parties for quests or dual runs require people.
As for the money, I am willing to spend some cash on the entry fee, if it pays off in the end. But still, a bit of advice isa good thing, before going the route of trial and error. Thats why I asked.
It's a little hard in the beginning, before you learn the patrol paths, and know when to lure, you will spend some gold in the beginning and maybe become frustrated but relax, training makes perfection, and after you have some experience this run is very very easy.
It's hard to explain all the run, DL the video, and watch very careful, after that put your questions here.
And after take the quest from ghost, don't forget to target yourself or SV/AV won't work
(Everyone do this in the beggining )In UW there's no much space for mistakes, so!!! Well, first of all, thanks for the reply. I have seen the video already- the run itself indeed seems to be very easy there. It was the reason I decided to try going to the UW. I am a longtime GW player, but dont play with people much. And thats why i have never been there. Both full parties for quests or dual runs require people.
As for the money, I am willing to spend some cash on the entry fee, if it pays off in the end. But still, a bit of advice isa good thing, before going the route of trial and error. Thats why I asked.
Evilsod
How have the drops been for everyone? Done about 10-15 runs it seems and ive had a grand total of 3 Gold Hand Axes and 2 Globs of Ecto... (and about 6million keys). Most of the runs barely pay for themselves... nothing seems to drop.
Koning
well, yesterday was a good day for me, did about 10 runs, 1 run had 4 ecto's, there was another with 2 and 2 without, rest i got 1 ecto each run.
today it wasn't very good, about 8 runs, got 3 runs where i got 1 ecto. not very good, but I still keep golds almost every time. I don't try to keep farming @ one place to prevent farming code kicking in.
today it wasn't very good, about 8 runs, got 3 runs where i got 1 ecto. not very good, but I still keep golds almost every time. I don't try to keep farming @ one place to prevent farming code kicking in.
speedy21589
lol I want credit for the technique to aggro all the graspings in the beginning!
haha don't actually really care. Nice video of the technique, though, Koning, it's pretty much exactly the way I explained it on page 3. Still wish we could dodge coldfires and pick up loot faster :P. I guess teotuf has an interesting duo build for that posted, maybe we should try it sometime.
haha don't actually really care. Nice video of the technique, though, Koning, it's pretty much exactly the way I explained it on page 3. Still wish we could dodge coldfires and pick up loot faster :P. I guess teotuf has an interesting duo build for that posted, maybe we should try it sometime.
Koning
Yes I wanna thank you again for the luring technique, it really became soo fast now
It's really not hard to lure them, only to keep em on you cause 1 group likes to run off when you get back too far.
Like in that duo build idea (need to try it, in theory it looks nice (dunno if ppl already tried it)), assasin might have some skills to dodge the coldfires. Now I don't really know assasins cause I dont have 1 myself, but maybe shadowstepping to smites works (and leaving the patrol behind).
Than again, we need to drop mantra of earth, but with the Ele's high energy and AV for graspings that would'nt be a very big problem. (the defense can be raised with armor of earth if needed)
It's really not hard to lure them, only to keep em on you cause 1 group likes to run off when you get back too far.Like in that duo build idea (need to try it, in theory it looks nice (dunno if ppl already tried it)), assasin might have some skills to dodge the coldfires. Now I don't really know assasins cause I dont have 1 myself, but maybe shadowstepping to smites works (and leaving the patrol behind).
Than again, we need to drop mantra of earth, but with the Ele's high energy and AV for graspings that would'nt be a very big problem. (the defense can be raised with armor of earth if needed)
Zeddicus Tam
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Originally Posted by Koning
I don't try to keep farming @ one place to prevent farming code kicking in.
The anti-farming code shouldn't be kicking in when you go to a place like the Underworld. The same goes for the elite missions and the Fissure of Woe. So you shouldn't have to worry about that.
As for the build, I'm going to give it a try later tonight if we get favor. I watched the video of it in action and was blown away. Impressive stuff. I'm probably going to give the duo build a try too. It can get kind of dull being alone all the time.
Anyway, great job figuring this one out!
As for the build, I'm going to give it a try later tonight if we get favor. I watched the video of it in action and was blown away. Impressive stuff. I'm probably going to give the duo build a try too. It can get kind of dull being alone all the time.
Anyway, great job figuring this one out!
Hyprodimus Prime
To all of the original authors of the smite-run specific terra-tank/geo nightfall, whatever you call-it ele build, Id like to ask your permission to post it on Guild wiki (its already done, but someone reminded me that this variant is unique and needs concent). If not, then ill delete it.
speedy21589
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Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime
To all of the original authors of the smite-run specific terra-tank/geo nightfall, whatever you call-it ele build, Id like to ask your permission to post it on Guild wiki (its already done, but someone reminded me that this variant is unique and needs concent). If not, then ill delete it.
Well, as Koning made the original post, he's the main guy to ask, I guess, but I give you permission to post all the minor tweaks I contributed in this thread (mainly pulling all the graspings at once in the beginning) 
Koning
Ye i give you permission too
as for the anti farming code, my VwK mesmer caught it badly after farming UW (entering from toa all the time) for some time. Graspings didn't even drop for me and only half of the smites dropped something (ofcourse not ecto).
as for the anti farming code, my VwK mesmer caught it badly after farming UW (entering from toa all the time) for some time. Graspings didn't even drop for me and only half of the smites dropped something (ofcourse not ecto).
mrlopes
The drops!!!
My Elementalist don't use to go to UW until this great build (kudos to Koning), so no chance for any kind of anti-farm code at least at UW , but ... i must say the drops he's getting is crap and more crap, not a single ecto, 2 or 3 gold drops, chests = only purples, real bad drops.
But if i get my VwK Rt who has done UW hundreds of times, i normally get 1/2 ectos each 2/3 runs and some decent drops.
Weird and an Ele with bad luck i think!
My Elementalist don't use to go to UW until this great build (kudos to Koning), so no chance for any kind of anti-farm code at least at UW
, but ... i must say the drops he's getting is crap and more crap, not a single ecto, 2 or 3 gold drops, chests = only purples, real bad drops.But if i get my VwK Rt who has done UW hundreds of times, i normally get 1/2 ectos each 2/3 runs and some decent drops.
Weird and an Ele with bad luck i think!
DRGN
I started running thing build a few weeks ago when someone posted a little blurb about it in a different thread. At one point I got curious as to how many Smites I could get at once. First time I had seen +20 smites die since the spirit bond nerf. It would appear that they will very reluctant to run if they are out of energy; I guess this is because they think if they run off, they can't heal themselves anyway and will just get smacked. The time you wait after SV seems to affect it, too, no matter how many smites you have. I noticed if I wait about 12-13 seconds(with enchanting staff) then cast sandstorm, they rarely run off on me, but if I wait less sometimes, they run, even though there's no way they could have energy left(23 smites triggering SV for 10 seconds).
As far as Colds go, I decided to screw around with them after a run, and actually had some success. I was able to kill a mob of 2 Colds and have about 60 HP left over. I'd imagine a mob of 3 would probably be able to kill you. The AoE can actually help you in this case, since Sandstorm can force them out of their Ward Against Harm, at which point you can EQ/AS by watching for the little crystal thing that comes up prior to a Maelstrom. It took a long time and I don't plan to every do it again, but at least if you aggro 2 Colds and get Shard storm'ed it's not necessarily the end of the run. :P
As for the drops, I haven't had much of a problem. I get one ecto almost every run, and if not, I usually get multiples the next one(had two dry runs in a row one day, got 3 ecto the next run). Like I said, been running this for a few weeks; gotten 12 ectos in about 18 runs(this counts my wiped runs due to bad aggro/lag; nothing like running behind Benton and getting hit in the back by Aatxe that are still on the stairs...like rubber band lag, but you never bounce back.)
Haven't watched the video since I've the of how to run it, but looks like a great guide. Good job. Also, if anyone wants to watch a live run to see it in person(if you have trouble getting past the Darkness, etc.), PM me in game. IGN: Noob Attunement. Again, great guide.
As far as Colds go, I decided to screw around with them after a run, and actually had some success. I was able to kill a mob of 2 Colds and have about 60 HP left over. I'd imagine a mob of 3 would probably be able to kill you. The AoE can actually help you in this case, since Sandstorm can force them out of their Ward Against Harm, at which point you can EQ/AS by watching for the little crystal thing that comes up prior to a Maelstrom. It took a long time and I don't plan to every do it again, but at least if you aggro 2 Colds and get Shard storm'ed it's not necessarily the end of the run. :P
As for the drops, I haven't had much of a problem. I get one ecto almost every run, and if not, I usually get multiples the next one(had two dry runs in a row one day, got 3 ecto the next run). Like I said, been running this for a few weeks; gotten 12 ectos in about 18 runs(this counts my wiped runs due to bad aggro/lag; nothing like running behind Benton and getting hit in the back by Aatxe that are still on the stairs...like rubber band lag, but you never bounce back.)
Haven't watched the video since I've the of how to run it, but looks like a great guide. Good job. Also, if anyone wants to watch a live run to see it in person(if you have trouble getting past the Darkness, etc.), PM me in game. IGN: Noob Attunement. Again, great guide.
The Arching Healer
just tried this build, need a few runs to get the build working for me. After 10 runs or somethin i got 2 perfect runs. Total of 4 ecto's, 1 rq 10 stormbow and 1 golden twin hammer so i think it's been worth
thnx for the build m8
thnx for the build m8
Dead_Metal_Zero
Darn it all, whenever I want to test it, I never have favor....
Judgeing from the video, though, I'm quite pleased at what this build has become. And here I was, using it on kirins and imps.... Never thought it'd be the next solo UW and surely not the fastest either.
Judgeing from the video, though, I'm quite pleased at what this build has become. And here I was, using it on kirins and imps.... Never thought it'd be the next solo UW and surely not the fastest either.
lauratos landof
Thanks for the build it really rocks!
For those crying that they dont get any drops:
Me and 2 friends were doing UW Solo. 7 runs for everyone.
Friend 1: 7 runs 0 ectos
Me: 7 runs and 5 ectos
Friend2: Quit after 4 runs, he had 12 ECTOS...
Drops are completely random i think.
For those crying that they dont get any drops:
Me and 2 friends were doing UW Solo. 7 runs for everyone.
Friend 1: 7 runs 0 ectos
Me: 7 runs and 5 ectos
Friend2: Quit after 4 runs, he had 12 ECTOS...
Drops are completely random i think.
Koning
omg 12 ecto in 4 run! thats cool
I did 6 runs today, 2 runs had 2 ecto, 3 runs i had 1, only 1 run nothing. so 7 ecto in 6 run isn't bad...(especially if you consider the lenght of 10 min )
I did 6 runs today, 2 runs had 2 ecto, 3 runs i had 1, only 1 run nothing. so 7 ecto in 6 run isn't bad...(especially if you consider the lenght of 10 min
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Now i need to get to refuge and kill drougth with my ele. yay
RaisetheFish
Thanks for such a great build...Too bad drop rate has gone down the hole again...
lauratos landof
Did some more runs, and i have 1 request to anet: PLEASE FIX THOSE RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING STUCK LAGS! They ruined me about 5 runs...
Koning
same here, the rubberbanding lags cost have costed me more than 10k now
its really weird, before the update with NF it never happened to me
EDIT: count 2k more
its really weird, before the update with NF it never happened to me
EDIT: count 2k more
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by lauratos landof
Did some more runs, and i have 1 request to anet: PLEASE FIX THOSE RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING STUCK LAGS! They ruined me about 5 runs...
Perhaps those lags are a way of telling you to stop wasting your money? The droprates from these smites is beyond fcking pathetic. In over 40 runs ive had 4 ectos, 6 golds and 1 black dye. Half of the golds and a black dye came from the first lot of Grasping Darkness to get out the entrance hall!
Anyway i got sick of the smites... i took this build Kirin farming. No entre fee, shit drops guaranteed w/ decent drops a bonus. Even by pure merching and gold drops i'm netting more money than those damn smites. Just needed some minor adjustments... no running skill, Crystal Wave to finish off Undergrowth, EoE to make sure all Kirins die and GoEP.
Anyway i got sick of the smites... i took this build Kirin farming. No entre fee, shit drops guaranteed w/ decent drops a bonus. Even by pure merching and gold drops i'm netting more money than those damn smites. Just needed some minor adjustments... no running skill, Crystal Wave to finish off Undergrowth, EoE to make sure all Kirins die and GoEP.
lauratos landof
Drop rate is ok with me, again 7 runs 5 ectos, but... its so annoying: You have a nice 15 smites-mob after you, you are at the perfect position... ah, wait you arent, you are in the patrolling route of coldfires! Oh here comes Maelstrom! Oh nice, wasted another 1k thanks to lags!
I hate it...
I hate it...
pegasux
sounds like you guys are having my bad luck in the uw...NVR get ectos down there!
Evilsod
Oh noes... 5 ecto in 7 runs and your find time to bitch about you screwing up like that? I'd rather have the occasional warp and lag issue and actually get drops. 40 runs netting 1 ecto per 10 runs sound fair to you?
Swame Rain
Wow...i Just wanted to say thanks for the great build..got a glob of ecto on my first group of smites down there...build works sweet...just wish i could get rid of the exhaustion causing skill...i'll work on it...but i'm sure you've already tried every angle.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
Kcp
I had 4 ecto drop from smites today, and 2 black dyes drop off the squids the game before , also had several 2-3 ecto runs, and a rare -5/19% chance r12 gloom shield. The drops are there, it's like fishing, you don't always catch keepers to take home. Everyone has a couple 0 ecto runs, rubberband,and all out disconnects while tanking 20+ smites in a safe spot right before you drop your skill chain on them. It sucks.
The coldfire nights are easy to kill guys. At least I'm having absolutely no problems killing them unless body blocked by smites. I've been regularly killing coldfires upon accidental aggro WHILE tanking smites. I'm using 45 enchant +10 vs earth rare shield though, it helps cut the damage from their frozenburst or w/e it is they use when you get up close.
The coldfire nights are easy to kill guys. At least I'm having absolutely no problems killing them unless body blocked by smites. I've been regularly killing coldfires upon accidental aggro WHILE tanking smites. I'm using 45 enchant +10 vs earth rare shield though, it helps cut the damage from their frozenburst or w/e it is they use when you get up close.
kicks66
just a quick thought, what entrance is everyone using to enter UW? Prophecies, Factions or NF?
w0lla
I dont think it matters, its all the same (the drops anyway). I personally use ToA (prophecies)= faster access to the statues :P.
Prize_check_asker
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:blushed: Hehe, I am kind of new to UW farming, and didn't find any good advice for this ele build how to run to smites after killing Grasping Darkness creeps. [tried search and checked some topics, etc.]
I tried to run that part by using the running spell, but I don't know how to run that part without getting the "extra" group of Graspings to chase my back -> kill me (as you can see, I am not very professional in UW, but help could help
) Anybody has some easy tip how to do that part [post link to the topic where's the info/help, youtube video (the one I watched had that part cutted off...), etc.] ? ;o
ps: This build rocks, great job for making/sharing it up Koning
Enko
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Originally Posted by Prize_check_asker
[sorry already for this n00b-question]
:blushed: Hehe, I am kind of new to UW farming, and didn't find any good advice for this ele build how to run to smites after killing Grasping Darkness creeps. [tried search and checked some topics, etc.]
I tried to run that part by using the running spell, but I don't know how to run that part without getting the "extra" group of Graspings to chase my back -> kill me (as you can see, I am not very professional in UW, but help could help )
Anybody has some easy tip how to do that part [post link to the topic where's the info/help, youtube video (the one I watched had that part cutted off...), etc.] ? ;o
ps: This build rocks, great job for making/sharing it up Koning There's a W/Me UW solo build on the farming forum that has the full run shown. i had to use that one to find the route the first time i tried this.
:blushed: Hehe, I am kind of new to UW farming, and didn't find any good advice for this ele build how to run to smites after killing Grasping Darkness creeps. [tried search and checked some topics, etc.]
I tried to run that part by using the running spell, but I don't know how to run that part without getting the "extra" group of Graspings to chase my back -> kill me (as you can see, I am not very professional in UW, but help could help
) Anybody has some easy tip how to do that part [post link to the topic where's the info/help, youtube video (the one I watched had that part cutted off...), etc.] ? ;o
ps: This build rocks, great job for making/sharing it up Koning There's a W/Me UW solo build on the farming forum that has the full run shown. i had to use that one to find the route the first time i tried this.
pegasux
Boy I just bite at this. Everytime I pull the grasps I get interupted when i get the 2nd group down. if i don't get interupted i can't kill em in 1 shot so they come back and i get interupted trying to recast my stoneskin. oh well i just need to learn the pattern...lol.
Koning
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Originally Posted by Enko
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Originally Posted by pegasux
Boy I just bite at this. Everytime I pull the grasps I get interupted when i get the 2nd group down. if i don't get interupted i can't kill em in 1 shot so they come back and i get interupted trying to recast my stoneskin. oh well i just need to learn the pattern...lol..
If you stand in the narrow space next to the right stairs, they all die because they can't run from your sandstorm, so you don't have to recast.
IF you are gonna recast, do it immediatly after you sandstorm/dragonstomp/aftershock combo, they rarely interrupt me than cause they all run away. (except 1, but you can watch his disrupting blow, mostly he uses it b4 you recast your aua) Also, if you wanna make sure all the graspings have wasted their interrupts when they just came to you, attack a few times with your weapon. they will try to interrupt your attacks if they have their interrupt not wasted yet. My Green Storage
Ha ha!!1 The jokes on all fo you!
We Americans never have favor!! ;/ I've been looking at solo UW builds for smites. Easier then the other ele build I saw on you tube (Armor of Earth + others). Seems straight forward. Get quest, put the 3 enchants on, pull, AV, kill combo. Ahh well looks like I have to wait about 5-6 hours until we get favor ... (And hopefully my first ecto drop :P)
pegasux
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Originally Posted by Koning
Koning
If you are luring the graspings to the spot next to the stairs, it's normal that 1 group runs back if you run straight to that spot. to prevent this, rest 1 sec in the middle on the platform where you first spawn, wait till they are on you, and proceed to the spot by tabbing forward key (w on my keybord) so you don't run in a straight line but have some stops. You can see this a bit in the video where i take on all groups.
pegasux
ok got it...so just don't run all the way there but let them stay close enough to you. gonna give it another shot tonight...thanks Koning
Valeria
This is really funny at times.. especially when the smites run away with around 5hp then you can just wand them to death and even divine intervention doesn't save them (1hit kill
 )I got my first ecto at the secon run right before my enchantments were ending and some coldfires came towards me. tried to pick it up but.... "invertory full" Just in time i dropped some crappy smite rod and picked it up before i died. the grasps are really scary once the disrupt you youre about dead.
AscalonWarrior
Capped Sandstorm!! I needed to do Rilohn Refuge 3 times with henchies before I managed to capture it lol
America has favor atm, but when Europe has it I ready to give this a shot
Swame Rain
truely is easy..but for beginners who don't know the paths of the monsters down there then it could be tuff....only thing you can do is go down and experiment...there is a set path for everything down there. Once you figure out the safe spots then the coldfires are easily avoidable. Anyways..it's after 1am just wanted to post this cuz I see some poeple that may be new to the whole UW thing... and are just haveing a hard time knowing where to stop and fight the smites at.
So far 2 nights and 6 ectos...tonight only did 2 runs...and got 3 ectos..it's all good though since I'm doing it solo now...thanks again! sometimes it sucks when you mess up with a big group of smites and they just won't seem to stay on you til they get there health almost to full health..but that situation is pretty rare. Also..I finished a run and decided to try to kill the coldfires...I couldn't do it..if you did then you must being doing something different...very much a pain to kill them. Running is a better option..even then they will sometimes chase you through the complete map area. LOL
Cebe
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Originally Posted by Prize_check_asker
:blushed: Hehe, I am kind of new to UW farming, and didn't find any good advice for this ele build how to run to smites after killing Grasping Darkness creeps. [tried search and checked some topics, etc.] I tried to run that part by using the running spell, but I don't know how to run that part without getting the "extra" group of Graspings to chase my back -> kill me (as you can see, I am not very professional in UW, but help could help ) Anybody has some easy tip how to do that part [post link to the topic where's the info/help, youtube video (the one I watched had that part cutted off...), etc.] ? ;o ps: This build rocks, great job for making/sharing it up Koning |
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Originally Posted by Swame Rain
Also..I finished a run and decided to try to kill the coldfires...I couldn't do it..if you did then you must being doing something different...very much a pain to kill them. Running is a better option..even then they will sometimes chase you through the complete map area. LOL
This is so SO annoying...rarely I manage to accidentally catch their aggro and it really hurts because they just never seem to give up chasing! I did almost manage to kill some onece though...the trick seems to be you *hope* they case Maelstrom first...let them cast it...then run up to them and do the Sandstorm>Dragon's Stomp>Aftershock thing...nearly worked for me once but it's SO not worth the hassle!!
pegasux
Finally kinda figured it out...the graspings are what get me. I can't get the whole 1 large aggro thing on them so I do it in 2 groups in the 1st chamber. then i swap my headpiece to get the xtra 3 sec run and haul butt. the smites are easy enough and it is annoying when they take off running and your sitting there trying to kill em. In 4 runs i got 2 ecto's...just wish there was a way to kill the bulls.
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