E/Me Smite only run: Mass aggro and quick!
Koning
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
This is so SO annoying...
Sometimes when I run closely to coldfires (they don't see me) to wait for them to move further, a stupid NM pops up and warn the coldfires of my presence
that kinda sucks
But the most dangerous killer is still lag
that kinda sucksBut the most dangerous killer is still lag
AscalonWarrior
3 runs, 4 ectos. 3 on first run and 1 on second run
14 Smites
14 Smites
Dmevi
Nice build
finally im getting ectos
45 runs 9 ecto (monk/SS/trapper/warrior builds)so i pimp my ele to SS tadaa
5 days farming after schoolday and i got 34 ecto and 130k!! BANG! Im totally back in the UW lols
nice song btw ^^
only i have 1 kinda prob... and i wann know if more people have it.
Sometimes Colfires are just CAMPING they stand still blocking ur way and dont move at all until ur trying to get past... my friend has never seen this before and he farmed himself 2 FOW armors...
another prob: Sometimes smites are fighting VS colfires or vs smites from a other group u lure.. U got this 2?
Most of the time the runs go great im even poss to kill 2 colfrire+2 smitegroups+1 DNM in the 1 fight lolled
Though i HATE warplag.. yay im safe bambambam guess not:\ bye 1k
even im getting pretty good i cant see how u make this run in 10 min! im always around 16-22min
Ty again and Gl getting ur ecto's all
hope they dont nerf this i finnaly get some money after 1600 hours GW
finally im getting ectos
45 runs 9 ecto (monk/SS/trapper/warrior builds)so i pimp my ele to SS tadaa
5 days farming after schoolday and i got 34 ecto and 130k!! BANG! Im totally back in the UW lols
nice song btw ^^
only i have 1 kinda prob... and i wann know if more people have it.
Sometimes Colfires are just CAMPING they stand still blocking ur way and dont move at all until ur trying to get past... my friend has never seen this before and he farmed himself 2 FOW armors...
another prob: Sometimes smites are fighting VS colfires or vs smites from a other group u lure.. U got this 2?
Most of the time the runs go great im even poss to kill 2 colfrire+2 smitegroups+1 DNM in the 1 fight lolled
Though i HATE warplag.. yay im safe bambambam guess not:\ bye 1k
even im getting pretty good i cant see how u make this run in 10 min! im always around 16-22min
Ty again and Gl getting ur ecto's all
hope they dont nerf this i finnaly get some money after 1600 hours GW
AscalonWarrior
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmevi
Sometimes smites are fighting VS colfires or vs smites from a other group u lure.. U got this 2?
Yep, I lured 2 groups of Smites and they started to fight each other And sometiems they fight against coldfires, yes.
Yep, I lured 2 groups of Smites and they started to fight each other And sometiems they fight against coldfires, yes.
Ecksor
well, they probably will nerf this.... im pretty sure they were already talking about nerfing SS
My Green Storage
Any chance that I can see the path in the smite area?
Mind you last night was my first time getting that far, so I was like where the ...... do I go.
Anyway about 6 "successful" runs (Dumb ass Grasping Darknesses ...), produced 0 ectos, phantom residues, gold and a Req 13 Eternal Shield (+28 health) I'll slap on Koss.
I will later add the possible reason for my following question:
Is it normal that the graspings still have a decent amount of life left after the first go through of SandStorm, Stomp and Aftershock? And it seems I only kill 1-3 the first go through of that combo.
Now what possibly would be the reason: I get afraid AV will run out during the pull, so I don't pull them into that little crevice and I stop on the platform.
Would that be a reason? And when's the best time to put AV on? The last skill to use before of the pull or pull into the crevice and put AV on?
Mind you last night was my first time getting that far, so I was like where the ...... do I go.
Anyway about 6 "successful" runs (Dumb ass Grasping Darknesses
...), produced 0 ectos, phantom residues, gold and a Req 13 Eternal Shield (+28 health) I'll slap on Koss.I will later add the possible reason for my following question:
Is it normal that the graspings still have a decent amount of life left after the first go through of SandStorm, Stomp and Aftershock? And it seems I only kill 1-3 the first go through of that combo.
Now what possibly would be the reason: I get afraid AV will run out during the pull, so I don't pull them into that little crevice and I stop on the platform.
Would that be a reason? And when's the best time to put AV on? The last skill to use before of the pull or pull into the crevice and put AV on?
AscalonWarrior
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecksor
well, they probably will nerf this.... im pretty sure they were already talking about nerfing SS
Let's enjoy this then when we can! Finally I can afford my Ritualist 15k Kurzick Armor 
Finally I can afford my Ritualist 15k Kurzick Armor Kcp
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecksor
well, they probably will nerf this.... im pretty sure they were already talking about nerfing SS
Let them increase the recharge on Sandstorm, it really doesnt matter. As long as they don't nerf the damage side of the skill there's no problem. You only have to cast it 1x anyways, they could up the recharge to 60 secs like meteor shower and it still wouldn't matter
IMO stoneflesh is going to get the axe. I would almost guarantee it because other classes are regularly using it and you know how anet is about skills that get overused. While it may be usable if they nerf it, they will add some downtime on the skill so it can't be maintained infinitely.
Until the axe comes i'm stockpiling ectos regardless. Ectos price is high, if they drop another nerf bomb across classes that price will probably go up for a nice payout.
It would be a shame to nerf the first "worthwhile to run" ele uw build after all that benchwarming the ele's had to endure through 2 entire chapters.
IMO stoneflesh is going to get the axe. I would almost guarantee it because other classes are regularly using it and you know how anet is about skills that get overused. While it may be usable if they nerf it, they will add some downtime on the skill so it can't be maintained infinitely.
Until the axe comes i'm stockpiling ectos regardless. Ectos price is high, if they drop another nerf bomb across classes that price will probably go up for a nice payout.
It would be a shame to nerf the first "worthwhile to run" ele uw build after all that benchwarming the ele's had to endure through 2 entire chapters.
Feathermoore Rep
The Conditions required for Sandstorm to do its full damage should be enough to not give it a damage nerf. It is sees a recharge time increase - Ok Sure it'll make things a little longer but it wont kill the skill.
And for those still reading this - and too people new to this build and area - this run has a decent learning curve. I repeat this run has a learning curve.
Mainly, the aataxes are not forgiving. If you aggro one and can't shake it, your screwed. This run can be done in ~10 minutes if your good and everything goes right. My first full run took about 35 minutes, because i played it safe and aggro'd groups one at a time. I'm now done to 20 minutes after about 15ish runs. 10 of which have failed. (8 of which were the first 8 runs i tried). So don't expect to go in and instantly just get ecto. IMO if you can make it past the grasps into smite territory,your pretty much home free.
Ill post up a pic later of me aggro'ing a cow and crying because i couldnt kill it. It was bodyblocked for awhile between a spirit and me. THen it ran around
And for those still reading this - and too people new to this build and area - this run has a decent learning curve. I repeat this run has a learning curve.
Mainly, the aataxes are not forgiving. If you aggro one and can't shake it, your screwed. This run can be done in ~10 minutes if your good and everything goes right. My first full run took about 35 minutes, because i played it safe and aggro'd groups one at a time. I'm now done to 20 minutes after about 15ish runs. 10 of which have failed. (8 of which were the first 8 runs i tried). So don't expect to go in and instantly just get ecto. IMO if you can make it past the grasps into smite territory,your pretty much home free.
Ill post up a pic later of me aggro'ing a cow and crying because i couldnt kill it. It was bodyblocked for awhile between a spirit and me. THen it ran around
Koning
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmevi
Nice build
Sometimes Colfires are just CAMPING they stand still blocking ur way and dont move at all until ur trying to get past... my friend has never seen this before and he farmed himself 2 FOW armors...
another prob: Sometimes smites are fighting VS colfires or vs smites from a other group u lure.. U got this 2?
Yes, the coldfires also are stuck sometimes on my runs. (rare, but it happens)
most of the time it's the group that's patrolling the road when you enter the second area in the ice wastes (i hope you know what i mean). I just put my enchants on, and fire with a longbow (if that doesn't work just an attack should do) and run immediatly back. try to make sure there is a wall between you and the coldfire. if you run far enough back (to the second room where there are still aatxes), their aggro should brake.
About the fighting smites, thats very very annoying . To avoid this as much as possible, I don't lure the first group of smites to the others, because it seems that most of the time the group of fighting smites is the second group b4 the first coldfire patrol. (not always, but i rather play safe than deminishing my chance on ecto)
my green storage, about the graspings, it's normal they don't die in 1 combo. look at the video and you see how to deal with it. put av up b4 you lure (if you wanna lure 3 groups, watch the other video)
I'm also afraid stondeflesh gets nerfed indeed that skill is just too good to be true
Sometimes Colfires are just CAMPING they stand still blocking ur way and dont move at all until ur trying to get past... my friend has never seen this before and he farmed himself 2 FOW armors...
another prob: Sometimes smites are fighting VS colfires or vs smites from a other group u lure.. U got this 2?
Yes, the coldfires also are stuck sometimes on my runs. (rare, but it happens)
most of the time it's the group that's patrolling the road when you enter the second area in the ice wastes (i hope you know what i mean). I just put my enchants on, and fire with a longbow (if that doesn't work just an attack should do) and run immediatly back. try to make sure there is a wall between you and the coldfire. if you run far enough back (to the second room where there are still aatxes), their aggro should brake.
About the fighting smites, thats very very annoying
. To avoid this as much as possible, I don't lure the first group of smites to the others, because it seems that most of the time the group of fighting smites is the second group b4 the first coldfire patrol. (not always, but i rather play safe than deminishing my chance on ecto)my green storage, about the graspings, it's normal they don't die in 1 combo. look at the video and you see how to deal with it. put av up b4 you lure (if you wanna lure 3 groups, watch the other video)
I'm also afraid stondeflesh gets nerfed indeed
that skill is just too good to be true
Swame Rain
Lets hope they don't nerf something..but I'm sure they will...it really gets them going when someone can solo stuff...especially in the UW.
But..of course I won't let my hopes fly on this one...since I've seen many many nerfs of lots of good builds in the past.
But..of course I won't let my hopes fly on this one...since I've seen many many nerfs of lots of good builds in the past.
Hullu Hugo
i think i start making this now:P
onerabbit
right after a stressful attempt the other day to get this right, i think im rdy to give it another shot :P
Kcp
If there's a stuck patrol I usually kill them
Those things are hard to shake, and I find it faster to kill them *if I have to aggro them. Sometimes they follow you all the way back to the stairs, back in the day I had coldfires follow me all the way to the starting point in the UW, and back around by the behemoths. They are just plain silly, I personally don't mind killing them they arent that hard if you have smites to drain their energy with SV. Once they are drained 2 skill chains and they are done.
My personal record is 11 smites 3 coldfires so far. The smite hex will kill you from frozen burst so be very careful attempting this ( the frozen burst hexes the smites when they nail you with it ) you must get SV up as your moving in towards the coldfires so the smites can't smite hex
Those things are hard to shake, and I find it faster to kill them *if I have to aggro them. Sometimes they follow you all the way back to the stairs, back in the day I had coldfires follow me all the way to the starting point in the UW, and back around by the behemoths. They are just plain silly, I personally don't mind killing them they arent that hard if you have smites to drain their energy with SV. Once they are drained 2 skill chains and they are done.
My personal record is 11 smites 3 coldfires so far. The smite hex will kill you from frozen burst so be very careful attempting this ( the frozen burst hexes the smites when they nail you with it ) you must get SV up as your moving in towards the coldfires so the smites can't smite hex
onerabbit
lol...i think me being an ele and going in uw doesnt like me...i go in with warrior,monk,necro im fine..i go in with ele i always have bad luck..1st i run in with no skills up..next i get error 7
i just managed to aggro em all..no im liying..i managed to aggro them in 2 goes (graspings) and i killed em all..iwas so happy..then i realised 1 got stuck behind ghost..so i thought ah np..peice of cake..so i re casted everything..went on for the kill...and he killed me?!?!?!? WTF! i give up on this..wasted way to muchh money trying to get this right, it just isnt for me..gl to every1 who is having great success.
i just managed to aggro em all..no im liying..i managed to aggro them in 2 goes (graspings) and i killed em all..iwas so happy..then i realised 1 got stuck behind ghost..so i thought ah np..peice of cake..so i re casted everything..went on for the kill...and he killed me?!?!?!? WTF! i give up on this..wasted way to muchh money trying to get this right, it just isnt for me..gl to every1 who is having great success.
Durik Lakmor
can anyone name some areas to use this build in some non-favored times
Lykan
Any tips for not getting stoneflesh interupted by graspings?! :/
Just wasted 10k on this shit.
Just wasted 10k on this shit.
flipfly2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
Any tips for not getting stoneflesh interupted by graspings?! :/
Just wasted 10k on this shit. cast MoE, stone striker, stoneflesh aura, storm-djinns haste, av/sv... then get aggro... go to safe zone, wait 3 seconds (approx time in which grasps get 0 energy), cast sandstorm, earthquake, aftershock and IMMEDIATELY cast stoneflesh aura right after shockwave!!! then finish the rest of remaining grasps with aftershock! et voilà!
Just wasted 10k on this shit. cast MoE, stone striker, stoneflesh aura, storm-djinns haste, av/sv... then get aggro... go to safe zone, wait 3 seconds (approx time in which grasps get 0 energy), cast sandstorm, earthquake, aftershock and IMMEDIATELY cast stoneflesh aura right after shockwave!!! then finish the rest of remaining grasps with aftershock! et voilà!
My Green Storage
I hear you Lykan.
3 of them were left at one point and I was interrupted on like 5-6 different spells ... I was WTF there's 3 of em!!!
But .. they have skull crack which also interrupts (Complete bull honky) ...
3 of them were left at one point and I was interrupted on like 5-6 different spells ... I was WTF there's 3 of em!!!
But .. they have skull crack which also interrupts (Complete bull honky) ...
xDusT II
It's tricky to time it right, with AV/SV on the graspings should be left with no adrenaline after the first sandstorm combo, and by the time aftershock recharges they wont be able to build the adreneline to use skullcrack.
Divinus Stella
A friend told me about this build earlier this evening, its pretty much the same as the termite build a lot of eles use, i got the UW run down to 9.30 from loading screen to last dead smite, that wasnt from aggroing all the graspings at the start like that vid you posted, usually do em in 2 lures.
The drops were pretty good for me aswel, did about 2hrs in there and got 17ecto, as soon as flagging kicks in itll be down to 1 a run again.
The drops were pretty good for me aswel, did about 2hrs in there and got 17ecto, as soon as flagging kicks in itll be down to 1 a run again.
Durik Lakmor
been trying this but the interupts and accidental aggro is killing me (broke now lol 500g) suppose I'll have to farm elsewhere and try again.
My Green Storage
Yea it started as a pain, but now I'm more successful then unsuccessful.
Even though it isn't a lifesaver skill, I found setting the enchants up (MoE, StoneStriker, Dijinn, Stoneflesh -- Listed longest lasting to shortest duration), run straight into aggro getting the "tip" of it, turning around, running into the middle (or more if needed) and doing AV in the middle with the aggro seems to work better.
Maybe just mentally I feel safer doing it (Graspings are fast SOBs so yea it does get interrupted at times) ..
wait 4-5 seconds AFTER the last one gets there to do Sandstorm / Stomp (or Earthquake) / Aftershock
1-3 will stay with you (Depending on mob(s) size) and die, others run. That's the time to put up stoneflesh and stonestriker again. Maybe even AV if it recharged fast.
Then do Aftershock or Sandstorm / Aftershock.
--- Few times 1 or 2 were left and they were gaining energy because I didnt have AV on, I'd just wand em dead lol
Then do the run to the smites.
Heck.
Thursday: 0 drops
Friday: 10 drops (Give or take 20-25 successful runs .. we won't discuss unsuccessful runs :P) --- All but one run was 1 drop. One run produced 2.
Even though it isn't a lifesaver skill, I found setting the enchants up (MoE, StoneStriker, Dijinn, Stoneflesh -- Listed longest lasting to shortest duration), run straight into aggro getting the "tip" of it, turning around, running into the middle (or more if needed) and doing AV in the middle with the aggro seems to work better.
Maybe just mentally I feel safer doing it (Graspings are fast SOBs so yea it does get interrupted at times) ..
wait 4-5 seconds AFTER the last one gets there to do Sandstorm / Stomp (or Earthquake) / Aftershock
1-3 will stay with you (Depending on mob(s) size) and die, others run. That's the time to put up stoneflesh and stonestriker again. Maybe even AV if it recharged fast.
Then do Aftershock or Sandstorm / Aftershock.
--- Few times 1 or 2 were left and they were gaining energy because I didnt have AV on, I'd just wand em dead lol
Then do the run to the smites.
Heck.
Thursday: 0 drops
Friday: 10 drops (Give or take 20-25 successful runs .. we won't discuss unsuccessful runs :P) --- All but one run was 1 drop. One run produced 2.
Durik Lakmor
yea got a little more success then got drilled by some wayward coldnights
Europe is gaining favor so about time for me to call it a night
Europe is gaining favor so about time for me to call it a night
AscalonWarrior
Lol, had a good spawn today
gigahertz205
can i just use stone flesh aura and physical resistance instead of stonestriker and mantra of earth? because stonestriker is at the end of nightfall unless i read something wrong..
Ecksor
That would probably work, and you would have an extra skill slot for maybe Earth Attunement.
w0lla
or do some pvp and unlock it ---> go to kamadan and buy it from there
gigahertz205
i thought only certain skills can be bought from kamadan, not all skills.. well if thats the case ill go unlock them right now since i got 14k factions
EDIT: it worked.. ty
EDIT: it worked.. ty
Koning
Quote:
Originally Posted by gigahertz205
can i just use stone flesh aura and physical resistance instead of stonestriker and mantra of earth? because stonestriker is at the end of nightfall unless i read something wrong..
Mantra of earth is more here for the energy management than for the damage reduction. With stoneflesh up, you will still take 0 dmg from smites and from graspings. Yes, it will also reduce damage but that's not why it's in here. (finally tripping my farming code, after a 1.5 week of intensive farming and gettin 1-4 ecto's each run, i'm now happy IF I get ecto... Well at least i've got a nice stack of these things now
prepare to encounter me in some missions )
prepare to encounter me in some missionsArcane Guardian
My thanks to Koning for his great advice to Uw newbie. This is working flawlessly now. I had to spent about 15k to learn the run, but now I can make it pretty much consistently. When I do mess up, its because of some oddly stuck grasping or the coldfires. It seems that there are some smites I cant get to, because of these annoying eles. Is it possible to kill at least one or two at a time? Oh and my run isnt done in 20 minutes obviously.
As for the drops, I am having bad luck. Still waiting for my first ecto to drop. That is after about 20 sucessful runs. So yeah, I still have to earn the money spent in learning. Best drop so far was Phantom key. I didnt have a chance to use it yet, cause Coldfires attacked me while I was killing the smites near a chest.
As for the drops, I am having bad luck. Still waiting for my first ecto to drop. That is after about 20 sucessful runs. So yeah, I still have to earn the money spent in learning. Best drop so far was Phantom key. I didnt have a chance to use it yet, cause Coldfires attacked me while I was killing the smites near a chest.
MrSlayer
Watched the video. Now I must go and buy new underwear to replace this set I have just ruined :O
Xethrion
If you learn the patrol patterns of the Coldfires, you should be able to kill every single smite in the Ice Wastes without aggroing Coldfires.
The hardest group to get to would either be the group next to the statue, or the group up the hill beside that. For the first, lure them from the hill with a longbow, and run back down to the safe spot to kill. For the second, just dodge coldfires, aggro them to the safe spot in the middle of the hill, and kill.
The hardest group to get to would either be the group next to the statue, or the group up the hill beside that. For the first, lure them from the hill with a longbow, and run back down to the safe spot to kill. For the second, just dodge coldfires, aggro them to the safe spot in the middle of the hill, and kill.
mr_groovy
Well the build is perfect . Takes some adjusting to agro the grasps but then you can do them very quickly . I already had a 4 ecto run too. Still doesn't beat my 5 ecto's on a solo necro run but still good
I made a nice movie of a 12 Min run for all of you to enjoy. Mind you that I know the patrols well, that's why I could pull off most of the agro's
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...50775046451636
Koning You can ad the link to your Openings post if you like...
. Takes some adjusting to agro the grasps but then you can do them very quickly . I already had a 4 ecto run too. Still doesn't beat my 5 ecto's on a solo necro run but still good I made a nice movie of a 12 Min run for all of you to enjoy. Mind you that I know the patrols well, that's why I could pull off most of the agro's
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...50775046451636
Koning You can ad the link to your Openings post if you like...
chicks boy
hey niice this is way faster than the rit/me VwK i have to try this XD
oh and since the stoneflesh aura going to get nerfed 100% next week. will the build still works???? im very very curious... cuz i dont want to use this if it gets nerf 1 week later.. d:P
oh and since the stoneflesh aura going to get nerfed 100% next week. will the build still works???? im very very curious... cuz i dont want to use this if it gets nerf 1 week later.. d:P
Kry Onicle
10 runs and ONE ecto. Sigh. I don't even farm most of the time so this is just annoying. Nice build though, veeery easy to use
Koning
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Hengis
If you do this enough times it almost becomes TOO easy....
A Guildmate described it as:
"Grasps, Leeroy, Smites, Rinse and Repeat" which pretty much sums it up LOL.
For those of you still having trouble playing the build, just keep trying, you will learn it eventually.
My biggest tips are:
1) Don't Panic, whatever happens.
2) Wait around 3-4 seconds from agroing the Grasps to casting Sandstorm.
3) After they break away from you, watch the grasps carefully for them to use up their interupts when they come back (You can see the tentacle flash gold)
4) Don't panic if you don't kill the Smite group in one hit. Just recast your enchants and wait for SV/AV to recharge before trying the sequence again.
5) Learn the Coldfires patrol routes. They are always the same.
The right weapons help a lot. A Totem Axe with its +5 energy and +20% enchantments is pretty much perfect.
There is a great collector's Earth scroll available in Kourna for 5 Kournan Pendants. Take a few minutes out to farm those pendants and get the scroll!
Use Sjeng's Collector Finder to locate it:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/sjeng/index.htm
It really does become almost automatic once you have done it enough times.
A Guildmate described it as:
"Grasps, Leeroy, Smites, Rinse and Repeat" which pretty much sums it up LOL.
For those of you still having trouble playing the build, just keep trying, you will learn it eventually.
My biggest tips are:
1) Don't Panic, whatever happens.
2) Wait around 3-4 seconds from agroing the Grasps to casting Sandstorm.
3) After they break away from you, watch the grasps carefully for them to use up their interupts when they come back (You can see the tentacle flash gold)
4) Don't panic if you don't kill the Smite group in one hit. Just recast your enchants and wait for SV/AV to recharge before trying the sequence again.
5) Learn the Coldfires patrol routes. They are always the same.
The right weapons help a lot. A Totem Axe with its +5 energy and +20% enchantments is pretty much perfect.
There is a great collector's Earth scroll available in Kourna for 5 Kournan Pendants. Take a few minutes out to farm those pendants and get the scroll!
Use Sjeng's Collector Finder to locate it:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/sjeng/index.htm
It really does become almost automatic once you have done it enough times.
Ryuchan
Quote:
Originally Posted by w0lla
or do some pvp and unlock it ---> go to kamadan and buy it from there
or if you are lazy and a non pvp'er like me, unlock it with a hero skill point in torment (provided you have a char that far) and then buy it.
thanks for the build btw gozer
thanks for the build btw gozer
pegasux
I had tons of problems with this at first...then i just got used to it and now it's cake. Once you kill the Graspings then the rest is a gimme. The only time I run into trouble now is when I talk to the ghost and a nightmare spawns and the aataxes attack...I get around that now by cast sdh then talk to the ghost...if the aataxes attack i just run and break aggro. btw i still do it in 2 groups in the chamber...the one group thing rarely works for me =(.