Guild Wars: Utopia

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Is the name of the next chapter! Now I'm not spreading rumors, there's many sources on this.

GWOnline
Wikipedia
Registered Domain name

Remember how Faction and Nightfall name was discovered?

On the PCGamer issue on GW:Nightfall, it stated that Dervish was a profession that came up during a brainstorm session on Faction. This kind of thing can happen again. Here's a Nightfall concept art revealing a flail wielding warrior. It could be a profession in C4

Naomi Heartily

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Benecia Renovation [RenO]

Mo/Me

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If it turns out to be true....very different path to take the names of GW chapters...doesn't fit at all with Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall.

Stormcloud

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

Until its official its not official, hence it is spreading rumors

dameros

dameros

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Zealand

Im Targeting The Ghostly (HeRo)

W/Mo

Guild Wars: Utopia?? Ugh, makes me think of dinosaurs.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

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While I'm tempted to believe it the first two 'proofs' that you've shown could have been put up by just about anyone. A Forum thread and a entry on a wiki just doesn't cut it.

As for the Registered domain name (which is causing the temptation to believe) I suggest you try domain searches on other guildwarsetcetc.com domain names and you'll find that they are also registered.

Buttermilk

Buttermilk

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dameros
Guild Wars: Utopia?? Ugh, makes me think of dinosaurs.
Ugh... Dinosaurs. I bet that's the "Great Giants" mentioned in the Prophecies manual.

And I was looking forward to get a Scandinavian-mythology themed chapter

/sigh

TiNkLeR

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Well.. the name doesnt match the first 3.

I Guess its the end of the trilogy and the begining of a new life in Guild Wars.

GO GO Factions Team! Proof that you don't suck so bad like you did in Factions with Utopia! Proof us wrong

The Last Cruzader

The Last Cruzader

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Who Kicked Down Our [Door]

W/A

Well.. Utopia means "paradise" the last time I remember. :P

Feme Assassin

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Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

i am sure ch4 name will be utopia and if it comes from a greek word utopia we will see green gardens and waterfalls and magic places with birds singing and hot woman a true heaven

Gares Redstorm

Gares Redstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nomadic

Elite Danger Society

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It's clear that the Utopia name was registered by NCSoft, so I won't get into that. Looking at past titles, each one was the overall basis for the chapter.

Prophecies = Flameseeker Prophecies
Factions = Luxons/Kurzicks
Nightfall = Abaddon's return

It seems most are trying to break the word Utopia down by its Greek roots, yet I haven't seen one poster display the actual definition of the word. However, I do think the answer to the main storyline to the campaign has already been posted. ANet has left some open storylines in the past, some minor and some major, but with the introduction of Nightfall, I think ANet is trying to answer all those questions players have been asking since Prophecies. Storylines such as "Who or what are the Titans?", "Who was the Prophet from Factions and why did Vizier Khilbron read the Forbidden Scroll?", among other interesting little tidbits and plotlines.

That's why I say the answer has already been posted as the hidden city of the Mursaat. The definition of Utopia is:

1 : an imaginary and indefinitely remote place
2 often capitalized : a place of ideal perfection especially in laws, government, and social conditions
3 : an impractical scheme for social improvement

With the plots of the evil that has plagued each chapter up till now has reached a climax, maybe its time to see how and why was the other, seemingly neutral/chaotic good (DnDers ) side involved, meaning the Mursaat and the Seers. Perhaps our heroes will cross the world to reach the Maguuma Jungle and beyond to find what Saul D'Alessio found that no one else has found. Kormir said we (heroes) were never alone and perhaps she being the new God of Secrets will show us the way to this "imaginary and indefinitely remote place" for reasons only C4 will tell us.

Just brainstorming and some wishful thinking as it would be nice to know the origins and really any new information regarding the Mursaat and the Seers.

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

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Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

Oh how i'd hate to go to the shop to buy it.

"Guild Wars Utopia, please..."

Even just thinking about it makes me cringe! Ordering online might not even be safe, either. They'd laugh at you through your order confermation e-mail!

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

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Utopia, a book written by Sir Thomas More (1516) describing the perfect society on an imaginary island.

Was used be some socialists as an inspiration or idea of how to create the best society, Communism. This was Karl Marx i believe, i might be wrong, i'm not sure.

With some hints pointing out that there may be more northern areas, i'm thinking Scandinavia, Greenland and Northern America, mainly Canada, although, they could use inspiration from Sibiria, but I admit to know almost nothing about Sibirian culture.

My first thought was to combine the Scandinavia with Utopia, as many people know. These countries are known to be very humanistic. But this is almost pure speculation and wish thinking.

My initial brainstorm.

english storm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havre Fras
Oh how i'd hate to go to the shop to buy it.

"Guild Wars Utopia, please..."

Even just thinking about it makes me cringe! Ordering online might not even be safe, either. They'd laugh at you through your order confermation e-mail!
it won't bother me i took great pleasure in walking up to the counter and saying i wanted a Wii

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Maybe all the people wishing for a departure from the doom and gloom of the past two chapters will get their wish now.

Given that Utopia sometimes has the connotation of "heaven"...could this possibly mean we're being called to fight at the gates of heaven? Dhuum and Menzies' final assault on the Gods after Abaddon's defeat, or possibly some new enemy.

Brandon1107

Brandon1107

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

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I hope it is something like the Utopia, is the place where the last surviovors of the destruction of Orr was. We have to travel there because that is the last hope to rebuild Orr. Or something about Menzies and Deldrimor. Or something about the Dark River and why everything in Maguuma and The Wildsis abbandoned, and why there are all those weird inscriptions on the stones.

I guess we'll have to wait.

ischuros

ischuros

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Ireland

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Utopia, I tend to believe, comes from the Greek prefix Eu-(Latinised) and the word topos. Eu- means good, and topos means place. So therefore it means good place or paradise, a Persian word, or either the popular asumption that it does indeed come from Uo- (no/non exisitance) and meaning no place. Probably the latter, but the former is more romantic (if etymology can EVER be romantic).

Anyway, information on chapter four should be released soon, so we may the OP proved right, or wrong.

Edit:

Yes I have just realised Eutopia and Utopia are different. Something was nagging me. Well, a(n) utopia could be a non exisitant place in where the next game takes place. A magical domain perhaps?

Brandon1107

Brandon1107

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Ok I think everyone now know that Utopia means - Paradise

Now that we got that through, I remember on the release of NF there was an artical stating to look out for clues about the next chapter. Anyone found any clues? I think its going to be at the Mursaat home land or Deldrimor.

And I hope the theme this time is either Norse or Aztec/Mayan.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

I really hope it doesn't include anything from the trilogy. A completely new game is needed.

Brandon1107

Brandon1107

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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It's going to be a little thing from one of the Games or all of them that was unfinished and left stuff hanging.

ex. Deldrimor, Mursaat, The Wilds, Menzies...ect

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

I'm wondering where it's gonna base off of. What kind of people are you gonna play as?

But that sounds really really awesome...The Mursaat were awesome. Do you think the Seer will have a role to play at all?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Hmm I doubt I'll buy unless it has some great PvE.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

i wouldnt mind if it has the murssat cuz theyre awsome.....but if i see shiro in 1 more mission lol.*twitch.

Interesting name....utopia>.>

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

CHARR?!?!? But utopia is a rather interesting name... A perfect society? A perfect society with evil trying to break it? Beh well for now we dont know anything

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

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Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naomi Heartily
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If it turns out to be true....very different path to take the names of GW chapters...doesn't fit at all with Prophecies, Factions or Nightfall.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TiNkLeR
Well.. the name doesnt match the first 3.
Care to tell me how Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall fit together?

fRag_Doll

fRag_Doll

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Prid of Ankh Morpork [Prid]

W/E

I find this all very odd.

www.guildwars.com
and
www.guildwarsfactions.com
are both registered as domains by ANet, and both addresses take you to the GW homepage.

www.guildwarsnightfall.com
and
www.guildwarsutopia.com
on the other hand are registered to NCSoft. The NF address leads to nothing at all, and the Utopia address takes you to "The future home of guildwarsutopia.com". Also, the Utopia domain was registered only 2 months after the NF domain.

Markaedw

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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I beleive that if there was a "utopia" it would be a false front. All socities that have artists the live the life of luxury, also have ditch diggers that dont.

That could be the plot, we are liberating the "ditch diggers", we could go there to prevent a civil war and find that it is really a slave revolt.

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

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Ok here is an idea that was presented a LONG time ago about chapter 4
It was ATLANTIS.

According to the myths about the real-world atlantis, it was a place of peace and harmony, a utopia. It was also off the coast of Greek as some myths suggest. Lord Ordan might have been a mursaat, in GWP manuscripts it says he was a master wizard, a mystique. That sounds like mursaat. Also pay attention to that bizarre NPC appearing in Elona. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bahltek for more info.

So as far as I know, mursaat city could be something similar to Atlantis. Read the description of Mursaat city and then read the description of atlantis.

This new NPC that appears randomly, Bahltek, is obviously speaking of Lord Ordan, cuz it is the only person we know that matches the description.

So let US all hope next chapter has something to do with Mursaat, cuz I really liked those flying THINGIES. LOL !

Antarctica and Snowy mountains idea, REJECTED.

Stealthc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kansas City Hotsteppers

Guild Wars Utopia could just be the name of a fansite that hasn't got off the ground yet

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Guild Wars Utopia makes you think of DINOSAURS? How!?

That aside, I think of Dredge when I hear this. They are a young society, looking for a better way to live. Utopia, being originally a political term in its modern context, could indicate their progression as a society.

Of course, Utopia also means a place that doesnt exist... and our real-world experiments with it failed, resulting in a conflict that almost destroyed the world (the cold war)...

Either way, I cant wait to see what they do with this.

I just hope they take a few extra months to make it, call it Guild Wars 2, maybe even not allow character transfer between 1 and 2, and give us something REALLY special, hopefully with a focus on good ideas that never got fleshed out fully (my primary concern with the entire GW as-of-yet trilogy: dropped plotlines and missing content). I for one would like to meet this guy:



Or, ya know, use a halberd or other polearm (or flail, etc). Im a sucker for varied melee weapons, Ill admit it.

Actually, looking at the concept art there is alot of technical / mechanical elements in it that I am curious about. Technology has never played an all too prominent role, and where it does it is augmented by magic. Id like to see a straight cyber/steampunk civilization. Perhaps they made a Utopia for themselves, using their its innovation and science. Perhaps, this wasn't quite as good of an idea as they original thought.

But, yeah, in summary - PICK UP DROPPED PLOT (or plot that got cut from the original release versions).

FeuerFrei

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Join Date: Jul 2005

In the middle of WWIII

Airreon Grievers[AG]

R/Mo

woooo...sounds interesting...really looking forward to it

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

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The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

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Guild Wars: Utopia...makes me think of some kiddie game...lol...

I wouldn't mind visiting Mursaat homelands. Would be quite interesting to side with Mursaats...if I'm correct they didn't mean to be evil anyways.

But...the name...ugh...I hate it lol

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

So, we have a [potential] name... does that mean it's speculation time?

Oooh ooh!

Alright, if I had to guess, it would have to deal with an Atlantis-like island/world, as Lord-UWR said. However, I'd say it would deal with the three continents possibly trying to re-create the City of Arah, or the City of the Gods.

This is what I'm thinking: The Tyrians, Canthans, and Elonians decide to explore a fourth continent - a huge island. They find many lost cities and temples to the 6 gods, and decide to recreate this lost civilization as a foothold for a new world order, claiming it to be a new Arah. The whole plan is to create one giant Utopian Society between the three continents.

It becomes the player's jobs to explore this lost world, discovering mysteries to the civilization's disappearance. Where does it lead from there? Perhaps Mursaat, Seers, Margonites, Forgotten, or something entirely different. Who knows? It could have many possibilities.

Also, any cultural influences could show up here. The Mayan/Aztec influence that was mentioned as rumor a while ago would work great (Atlantis-like). Or Roman/Greek, Norse, Native American, etc. Any of it could work great for a lost world.

lightblade

lightblade

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The Etereal Guard

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Pet - Hearty Bird of Paradise

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Ok... where is the Flail???
I see chains, a hood, a shield, a what looks like to be a quiver of arrows. This looks like a mix of a paragon and dervish.

No Flais there my friend, you sir, are high

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

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Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

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Reading the link that Lord-UWR posted, it reveals a little on the new chapter but also opens up a lot of questions. As far as Utopia goes I had already posted the webaddress in another post for all to see. Also if they keep going the way they have been it may be based off the culture of "Shangrila" (I hope I spelled that right) in the Himalayain mountians.
"Shangrila" is a place of perfect harmony with nature and oneself, also here is a bit on it which I dug up:
"Shangri-La is a fictional place described in the novel, Lost Horizon, written by British writer James Hilton in 1933. In it, "Shangri-La" is a mystical, harmonious valley, gently guided from a lamasery, enclosed in the western end of the Himalaya. Shangri-La has become synonymous with any earthly paradise but particularly a mythical Himalayan utopia - a permanently happy land, isolated from the outside world. The story of Shangri-La is based on the concept of Shambhala, a mystical city in the Buddhist religion."

I got this off wikipedia.

Mega Mouse

dameros

dameros

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Zealand

Im Targeting The Ghostly (HeRo)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Guild Wars Utopia makes you think of DINOSAURS? How!
.
Well, i watched a movie called "Dinotopia" (it's about dinosaurs..duh) so Utopia reminds me of that that movie which reminds me of dinosaurs.

Grais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Tools

Quote:
No Flais there my friend, you sir, are high
If your going to make posts such as the one you made, dont make silly spelling mistakes, it blows the point completely. You are correct in that its not a flail,in the classical sense, but some images of chains, one of which it looks like the character is holding.

To the topic of the thread, Guildwars Utopia, I think this is an interesting direction. I too would like to see it lighten up a bit, it seems games always go for dark and brooding, its getting to be like a cliche.

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Damage Radius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormcloud
Until its official its not official, hence it is spreading rumors
But spreading rumors is fun!

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

Hopefully it wont be a half baked combination of the previous chapters where our old adversaries make guest appearances again as Shiros really getting to be a bit of a pain in the arse.....

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

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This is very interesting at least it will give us a little insight in to what we should expect. Though on another note the first expansion where I can't play my characters from previous campaigns will not be an expansion I will buy. :[