You can casually play PvE. I can login for an hour and do some quests or farm alittle or just chit chat in one of the main towns.
The same really goes for RA, which is why it is the favored beginning arena and arena for PvErs.
How much PvP could the same person do in an hour? Well they could HOPE to have 8 people on to GvG, spend 20-30 minutes probably finally getting everyone to hall and setup, then have time for 1-2 matches max both of which are likely to just be suicide runs against a decent ranked team because of your lack of experience and practice GvGing. For HA you can have 6 people on (soon to be 8 again) or pick up random people and get slaughtered by the Zaishen or spend the time hand picking people and go for 1 run max before having to leave.
GW has long suffered from not being casual enough to appeal to a majority on the PvP side - Unlike the "login and go" of alot of types of games, GW requires large party numbers, setup times, and etc that keeps the average joe blow from competitively fighting.
why do more people PvE than PvP??
Former Ruling
Ashleigh McMahon
My views on this matter is alike GourangaPizza's. PvE is more laid back. In PvP-you have to concentrate and be organized to do well. Take this for an example;
A person has had the game for 2 months-has just finished Prophecies on his first character. Player goes to RA. Player wins and unlocks Heroes Ascent. Player tries to join a PuG. Player and team fail miserably against a organized opponent. Player's team call player a noob and puts his RL morale down-discouraging him from doing future HA/PvP all together.
I think that you see many fewer PvPer's because nowadays you have to be very organized to succeed..with the exception of RA(Which is also why it is very popular with usually about 5-10 districts)
Unlike PvE alot of missions are completable with PuG's-..and you only really need to organize for bonuses/masters.
Basically many players don't like to jump straight from 'laid back' to 'hardcore'-so the majority of the small majority of PvP'ers you see in HA are usually people who are hardcore/focusing on becoming hardcore PvPer's.
Thanks
Ashleigh
A person has had the game for 2 months-has just finished Prophecies on his first character. Player goes to RA. Player wins and unlocks Heroes Ascent. Player tries to join a PuG. Player and team fail miserably against a organized opponent. Player's team call player a noob and puts his RL morale down-discouraging him from doing future HA/PvP all together.
I think that you see many fewer PvPer's because nowadays you have to be very organized to succeed..with the exception of RA(Which is also why it is very popular with usually about 5-10 districts)
Unlike PvE alot of missions are completable with PuG's-..and you only really need to organize for bonuses/masters.
Basically many players don't like to jump straight from 'laid back' to 'hardcore'-so the majority of the small majority of PvP'ers you see in HA are usually people who are hardcore/focusing on becoming hardcore PvPer's.
Thanks
Ashleigh
Blame the Monks
I agree that the difficulty of casual PvP is why so many people PvE. Most people don't like to put in a huge amount of effort to lose more than half of the time.
For myself, I PvE when:
1) A new chapter comes out -- I like the new missions and storyline. Twice through the game wears this out tho.
2) When a friend needs help or when a friend wants me to play a difficult area with an organzied team (doa).
3) When I want to farm a new title -- heros only usually.
I probably spend 10% of my time or less in PvE, except during the week when new chapters come out when I spend 90% of my time pveing.
For myself, I PvE when:
1) A new chapter comes out -- I like the new missions and storyline. Twice through the game wears this out tho.
2) When a friend needs help or when a friend wants me to play a difficult area with an organzied team (doa).
3) When I want to farm a new title -- heros only usually.
I probably spend 10% of my time or less in PvE, except during the week when new chapters come out when I spend 90% of my time pveing.
Daysy
Right after the Searing, my hunting partner headed for Ascalon Arena, both of us level 7. What should have been fun was totally ruined by people insulting us because we were there with our noob skills and noob armour, and had dared set foot into an arena without first paying someone to run us to Drok's to get high level equipment. Eventually we just turned off all chat but left at the end of the battle.
Compare that experience to following a storyline, exploring the map, partaking in quests, completing missions, enjoying the scenery, etc., etc. We've never had to grind or farm and have always had enough for our next armour, skills or whatever else we wanted.
After playing for 3,700 hours we still have plenty left that we want to do, so the question isn't what the point is of PvE, but rather why anyone would choose to go to an arena when it's so much more pleasant outdoors.
Compare that experience to following a storyline, exploring the map, partaking in quests, completing missions, enjoying the scenery, etc., etc. We've never had to grind or farm and have always had enough for our next armour, skills or whatever else we wanted.
After playing for 3,700 hours we still have plenty left that we want to do, so the question isn't what the point is of PvE, but rather why anyone would choose to go to an arena when it's so much more pleasant outdoors.
ForgeWhelp
To be honest I fnd much more satisfaction in pissing off Glint by snatching her egg and then laying the smack down on her than any intereaction win or lose agains a group of humans. To me PvE is too much like trying to farm a group of enemies that always have different skills. I'd prefer to galavant across the country-side defeating evil in the name of good.
Some people like apples, some people like roasted pork slatherd in BBQ sause...
Some people like apples, some people like roasted pork slatherd in BBQ sause...
crime.mob
hey thanks for the replies, im glad this was moved from Questions and answers
but still... there were so many of the people who responded to my findings on PvE with flames about PvP, and some posts kindof soured my PvP experience, so i simply skipped over reading the ones that started with "BECAUSE HA IS REPETITIVE AND TEH SUXOR AND BLABLABLALBA"
i guess i kindof understand why people pve, because its like a traditional rpg. I liked those too but i guess Guild Wars just seemed a little dry to me compared to console rpgs and stuff ( and people said they play PvE because they don't have enough time to play PvP, lol i stopped PvE because i thought it was more time consuming than PvP, which isn't bad at all if you don't immerse yourself in the metagame and you remember its just a game- i may seem very much like a n00b but if i want quick action and am short of time, i try to find some random group in TA or even stop by in random arenas)
but still... there were so many of the people who responded to my findings on PvE with flames about PvP, and some posts kindof soured my PvP experience, so i simply skipped over reading the ones that started with "BECAUSE HA IS REPETITIVE AND TEH SUXOR AND BLABLABLALBA"
i guess i kindof understand why people pve, because its like a traditional rpg. I liked those too but i guess Guild Wars just seemed a little dry to me compared to console rpgs and stuff ( and people said they play PvE because they don't have enough time to play PvP, lol i stopped PvE because i thought it was more time consuming than PvP, which isn't bad at all if you don't immerse yourself in the metagame and you remember its just a game- i may seem very much like a n00b but if i want quick action and am short of time, i try to find some random group in TA or even stop by in random arenas
CassiusDrehyg
More people PvE than PvP because PvE is a more light-hearted experience that doesn't take as much skill to pull off effectively. Personally I can't stand any online gaming experience that is not competitive, so when I PvEd for about an hour and unlocked a few skills, I was straight over to RA learning the ropes.
cosyfiep
why pve? my question would be why does anyone pvp....but thats another thread.
I pve because I like to play a game, not beat the crapp out of other people....I get no satisfaction out of killing off people in pvp---and I am not very good, nor really care that the warrior was able to beat my ele to a pulp (gee he has al100 vs al60). Nor waiting for hours to play for what 10minutes???
In pve there are quests and rewards for quests....there is gold to be found, cool weapons to modify, neat armor to be bought and its materials to get (those vabbi gems for one)....You can start these immediately --no waiting for a group of humans to form a leet team. There are the missions, finishing the game and seeing the end credits (ok, who really cares about the end credits but finishing the game gives a feeling of accomplishment).....and when you get to level 20 you can go back and bash the level 6 char solo! (hey I played an ele for the first 4months of the game and the char gave me lots of grief--so it was payback time!)
so there are tons of reasons to pve.....there are tons of reasons to pvp (I still dont get pvp really, but then I am a 40yearold woman and still dont get into sports either)......
I am happy that anet made this game both to try and let peoples of both minds share a great game.
I pve because I like to play a game, not beat the crapp out of other people....I get no satisfaction out of killing off people in pvp---and I am not very good, nor really care that the warrior was able to beat my ele to a pulp (gee he has al100 vs al60). Nor waiting for hours to play for what 10minutes???
In pve there are quests and rewards for quests....there is gold to be found, cool weapons to modify, neat armor to be bought and its materials to get (those vabbi gems for one)....You can start these immediately --no waiting for a group of humans to form a leet team. There are the missions, finishing the game and seeing the end credits (ok, who really cares about the end credits but finishing the game gives a feeling of accomplishment).....and when you get to level 20 you can go back and bash the level 6 char solo!
so there are tons of reasons to pve.....there are tons of reasons to pvp (I still dont get pvp really, but then I am a 40yearold woman and still dont get into sports either)......
I am happy that anet made this game both to try and let peoples of both minds share a great game.
zwei2stein
Frustration.
interaction with wanna-be-l33t people, interaction with l33t people.
loosing because some one else screws up, loosing because you screw up, not being able to ejoy victory because then you will screw up and loose.
not being able to experiment, being forced to build you dont like.
interaction with wanna-be-l33t people, interaction with l33t people.
loosing because some one else screws up, loosing because you screw up, not being able to ejoy victory because then you will screw up and loose.
not being able to experiment, being forced to build you dont like.
Ashleigh McMahon
Cosyfiep...I love you :P That's some really nice points on why to PvE 
*Logs on and gets questing*
Hehe..I love PvP still though You said about completing the game gives you a sense of accomplishment. In my guild, and I bet many others, winning a GvG match or earning Halls is also a great sense of achievement...I mean,who gets to see you finishing the game except your party? Anyone can observe your Halls victory
Great points you made though.
*Logs on and gets questing*
Hehe..I love PvP still though
You said about completing the game gives you a sense of accomplishment. In my guild, and I bet many others, winning a GvG match or earning Halls is also a great sense of achievement...I mean,who gets to see you finishing the game except your party? Anyone can observe your Halls victory Great points you made though.
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You can casually play PvE. I can login for an hour and do some quests or farm alittle or just chit chat in one of the main towns.
The same really goes for RA, which is why it is the favored beginning arena and arena for PvErs. How much PvP could the same person do in an hour? Well they could HOPE to have 8 people on to GvG, spend 20-30 minutes probably finally getting everyone to hall and setup, then have time for 1-2 matches max both of which are likely to just be suicide runs against a decent ranked team because of your lack of experience and practice GvGing. For HA you can have 6 people on (soon to be 8 again) or pick up random people and get slaughtered by the Zaishen or spend the time hand picking people and go for 1 run max before having to leave. GW has long suffered from not being casual enough to appeal to a majority on the PvP side - Unlike the "login and go" of alot of types of games, GW requires large party numbers, setup times, and etc that keeps the average joe blow from competitively fighting. |
AceeBlueEagle
For it me it's simple:
I PVP at my job all day long trying to work with internal and external customers in the REAL world.
The last thing in the WORLD I want to do when I login to GWars is PVP someone.
Leave the "Boom! Headshot! Boom! Headshot!" for someone else.
I PVP at my job all day long trying to work with internal and external customers in the REAL world.
The last thing in the WORLD I want to do when I login to GWars is PVP someone.
Leave the "Boom! Headshot! Boom! Headshot!" for someone else.
xxSilhouette
Well. I personally enjoy PvE more...It seems to give me much more things to do, and instead of pressing 'I' and choosing my armor and the colors, and the weapons, I can go out and get to whatever town i need for the armor I choose. It seems to keep me occupied and it keeps me from bashing my head into my laptop screen. To put it simply, I don't enjoy PvP in Guild Wars at all...and no its not just Guild Wars itself, I don't like the people i have encountered in PvP. Some of them can make it very un-enjoyable.
And plus, I don't like to go out and kill other players characters. I just don't. I enjoy killing monsters, beacuse to me that is what a game is about. It doesn't mean it is what it is for everyone, It's just how i feel.
and I don't like following builds. at all. I make up most all of my builds unless they are some type of farming build, and a few rare others. I like to be able to play and experiment with different skills instead of going out and getting owned beacuse I didn't bring such and such a skill.
And plus, I don't like to go out and kill other players characters. I just don't. I enjoy killing monsters, beacuse to me that is what a game is about. It doesn't mean it is what it is for everyone, It's just how i feel.
and I don't like following builds. at all. I make up most all of my builds unless they are some type of farming build, and a few rare others. I like to be able to play and experiment with different skills instead of going out and getting owned beacuse I didn't bring such and such a skill.
Age
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PvE was fun until they introduced the heroes.
I was accustomed to typing " Forming mission bonus group self invite" and i receive invite, play the game and finish the mission bonus back in prophecies hey day. Now, i wanna do the poghan mission so i can ride those wurms in gates of desolation but all of the 25 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin guys there have 8 on top of their character and only 1 guy looking for a group. Sad. Please remove heroes from PvE and throw them back in HA please. Heroes are dumbing down the PvE experience. HAers need heroes more so they can get fame easily. |
When it come to HA and RA well that hasn't been the same since beta as most just have FoTM builds an to get in to a group well you might wait while but heros can't help this out.The reason I don't I have a small guild that can't GvG.
The only part of PvE I don't like is the repetition of it having to do 1 quest than 1 mission then 1 quest and 1 mission over and over.I would prefer to skip some of those like in Good ole Prophecies.
SparhawkJC
Because I've seen the Leeroy Jenkins clip and don't want this to happen:
FoxBat
While there are certainly issues with getting a GW PvP game organized, bottom line is Guild Wars is an RPG. There aren't any major pure PvP RPGs (yet, one or two are coming) compared to a good number of very successful PvP-only (bots optional) FPSes and RTSes.
Of course, one of the things that makes an RPG an RPG is some amount of long-term character progression, which hardcore GW PvPers have tended to whine about, and this element is usually minimal or lacking in FPS/RTS.
Of course, one of the things that makes an RPG an RPG is some amount of long-term character progression, which hardcore GW PvPers have tended to whine about, and this element is usually minimal or lacking in FPS/RTS.
Skuld
Because PvE is much more casual, IMO.
cosyfiep
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Cosyfiep...I love you :P That's some really nice points on why to PvE
*Logs on and gets questing* Hehe..I love PvP still though You said about completing the game gives you a sense of accomplishment. In my guild, and I bet many others, winning a GvG match or earning Halls is also a great sense of achievement...I mean,who gets to see you finishing the game except your party? Anyone can observe your Halls victory Great points you made though. |
(dont tell my hubby ok?)glad you like them...
...and its my accomplishment,I dont seem to have the need to share it with others....
but thats just me <a very private person>....
Dougal Kronik
For me, it's the character exploring, and completing the storyline, while developing within the world.
Seeing the hero/henchies/NPC's quips and comments makes me laugh at times.
I can stop after a mob to take a bathroom break.
Seeing the hero/henchies/NPC's quips and comments makes me laugh at times.
I can stop after a mob to take a bathroom break.
Grasping Darkness
I quit pvp except for the occasional aspenwood because if I got r3 emoted by one more NOOB (yes I said noob) while testing a new build I I was seriously going to snap....O'doyles ftl....and no wamo you arent cool in your fow. you look like a insecure noob with tasteless chicken legged armor.
Perkunas
I am still playing in Prophesies after 14 months of the game, can't afford the 2 new chapters. I enjoy the challenge of completing each mission & bonus and all the quests with each character class. It is getting more difficult and time consuming putting together teams lately, but I think most people are getting use to seeing a hench or two in a group now.
In PvP, to me all you are trying to do is kill a character just for points to unlock skills to kill better with.
I don't see trying to complete quests, exploring 100% of the map, or hunting for greens and golds as 'grinding'. I see it as challenging.
In PvP, to me all you are trying to do is kill a character just for points to unlock skills to kill better with.
I don't see trying to complete quests, exploring 100% of the map, or hunting for greens and golds as 'grinding'. I see it as challenging.
Coloneh
honestly, i enjoy PvE more. i have spent the last few months PvPing and iv gone back to PvE. now i can do a GvG or HA every once in awhile, but figuring out ways to solo things, and "finishing" the game(never really ends) is funner to me.
Absolute Destiny
I don't complain about PvE anymore, since I realized a loong time ago that ANet meant this to be a PvP game with a shallow world wrapped around it.
Even so, I despise PvP, even the missions that RESEMBLE PvP (Searing mission, Thirsty River, etc) because even in PvE, I despise having to rely on other human players.
Just ain't my style. I'm a control freak, and without TeamSpeak, and a team of people who actually know their roles (ie, no spellcasters/rangers bumrushing), I can't get shit done.
That's why I'm on the verge of getting Nightfall, just for the Heroes, so I don't have to worry about ANet nerfing the henchie AI (or about Alesia being in the middle of the fray).
I care nothing for "competitiveness".
I care more about soloing missions and exploring places said to be impossible to solo with henchmen.
Plus, I'm a hardcore RPG fan at heart, and do everything possible to immerse myself in this shallow world
Anywho, that's just my opinion.
Even so, I despise PvP, even the missions that RESEMBLE PvP (Searing mission, Thirsty River, etc) because even in PvE, I despise having to rely on other human players.
Just ain't my style. I'm a control freak, and without TeamSpeak, and a team of people who actually know their roles (ie, no spellcasters/rangers bumrushing), I can't get shit done.
That's why I'm on the verge of getting Nightfall, just for the Heroes, so I don't have to worry about ANet nerfing the henchie AI (or about Alesia being in the middle of the fray).
I care nothing for "competitiveness".
I care more about soloing missions and exploring places said to be impossible to solo with henchmen.
Plus, I'm a hardcore RPG fan at heart, and do everything possible to immerse myself in this shallow world
Anywho, that's just my opinion.
erfweiss
It's all what you find enjoyable. If you like PvP, more power to you. I personally don't, spending 95% of my time in PvE.
The main reason for this: I have kids, I am a soccer ref, and I work long hours. I get told I'm an idiot quite enough, thank you, that I don't want to log in using my "free time" for someone else to have the chance to tell me what they think of me.
PvE is self paced, relaxed.....and best of all, I don't see the mobs taunting me! Sure, they may stand over my corpse once or twice, but I can deal with that.
The main reason for this: I have kids, I am a soccer ref, and I work long hours. I get told I'm an idiot quite enough, thank you, that I don't want to log in using my "free time" for someone else to have the chance to tell me what they think of me.
PvE is self paced, relaxed.....and best of all, I don't see the mobs taunting me! Sure, they may stand over my corpse once or twice, but I can deal with that.
RinLian
I happen to find both enjoyable. I have done a lot of the PvE part of GW by myself when I don't want to bother anyone to come and help me. I also run TS to do missions with my guild mates when they need help. I enjoy it because when you're going through them for the first time, it's interesting... and after you've figured the missions out, it's fun to help people and strategically complete the missions. I follow the story line and watch the sequencing and it's a little more laid back. Now, after I've gone and completed anything, the only reason I'd go back is if my monk wants kurzick armor or my ranger wants 15k armor... Sorrow's furnace, anything.
I enjoy PvP because it allows me to explore the skills and learn why certain things work well together and why others don't. I've played with a lot of "guild wars wiki" builds and learned why they made good builds. I've added to them, and made my own things. It's fun. I think it allows you to experiment and learn more about the skills.
I enjoy PvP because it allows me to explore the skills and learn why certain things work well together and why others don't. I've played with a lot of "guild wars wiki" builds and learned why they made good builds. I've added to them, and made my own things. It's fun. I think it allows you to experiment and learn more about the skills.
Ashleigh McMahon
Aw..Why hate Bambi? :P Believe it or not- but some R3 players actually try to get that rank rather than just IWAYing to that. It's much more fun than using VIM/VIMWAY/IWAY.
Back on topic. I personally only PvE when I feel the urge to unlock more skills or get another end game item. Otherwise you can find me in AB trying to get my Ally Of The Kurzicks title or in RA/TA/HA GVG
Back on topic. I personally only PvE when I feel the urge to unlock more skills or get another end game item. Otherwise you can find me in AB trying to get my Ally Of The Kurzicks title or in RA/TA/HA GVG
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I quit pvp except for the occasional aspenwood because if I got r3 emoted by one more NOOB (yes I said noob) while testing a new build I I was seriously going to snap....O'doyles ftl....and no wamo you arent cool in your fow. you look like a insecure noob with tasteless chicken legged armor.
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TheBaron82
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Here's a few good reasons:
- Making a competent high-ranked team in PVP can take between 1 - 3 hours, only for it to then lose 2 rounds in and disband, thus wasting a ton of real-time for no gain whatsoever - Making a competent team of low-ranked players is virtually impossible - Any serious PVP requires hardcore third party voicechat software - The three above points make participating in PVP a major headache |
Ashleigh McMahon
GvG isn't really an issue with me. We all turn up on time, know what were doing and were off into a game within 10 minutes. Anyway...I do tend to stay away from HA. I usually only go there if I can get a guild party or a friend needs one extra player. The reason for this is; everyone is so uptight about getting into parties. Before; it was 'R3+ only!' Now it's 'R6+' Only. My guess is it'll keep on rising.
Matsumi
For me, I like to PvE to relax and learn how to play my character without harsh criticism, as well as developing my character and experimenting. After you hit level 20, have done both attribute point quests, and passed all the missions, the development stops for me. Gold and vanity items/armor offer nothing of interest to me anymore, so I decide to go PvP after that. Furthering my learning experience from facing more formidable opponents, and learning more about skills/builds. Then I usually feel my character development is complete, and I either delete the character, or keep them if I enjoy their style of playing or for utility reasons. Titles don’t interest me or impress me either, so I don’t even bother usually unless I’m bored.
Deagol
I stopped playing chess at the point where the other kids started reading chess books and playing in clubs. I couldn't see the fun of memorizing a number of standard openings, and that was needed in order to stay competitive.
For the same reason, I don't play in the team arenas. The random arena can still be fun, you can go in there with your normal character and contribute with what you have with out reading up on builds.
It is not really a PvP vs. PvE question, the elite PvE areas are just as bad, you need specific builds to be accepted (and useful), and it takes the fun out of it for me.
Luckily, there is more than enough fun for me in the rest of the game, and obviously the high level PvP and PvE with specialized builds is fun to other people, so it is good that there are places for them as well.
For the same reason, I don't play in the team arenas. The random arena can still be fun, you can go in there with your normal character and contribute with what you have with out reading up on builds.
It is not really a PvP vs. PvE question, the elite PvE areas are just as bad, you need specific builds to be accepted (and useful), and it takes the fun out of it for me.
Luckily, there is more than enough fun for me in the rest of the game, and obviously the high level PvP and PvE with specialized builds is fun to other people, so it is good that there are places for them as well.
Loviatar
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may even stay with the friendly noobs indefinitely.
and i dont sell things there i give them.
Savio
If this thread continues to deviate to complaints about PvP elitists, it will be closed. Saying you don't like PvP is one thing, ranting and stereotyping everyone who plays PvP is another.
Loviatar
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it was not directed at pvp as i have no contact with them.
elitests in general of all stripes.
sorry for not specifying
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bart
other ppl can be mean at times. Monsters don't /spit and call u names when they beat u.
The Ernada
I really dont get all the PVE vs PVP hate that goes around in here. I usually only get sucked into them because I've seen too many "OMG PVP players whining ruined PVE!!" I myself am a hybrid player. I usually play both PVE and PVP in MMOs and like them both. But I've gotten tired of the repetitive play of PVE in GW so now I'm mostly PVP.
I can understand why people don't PVP. It takes too much organization at times. And yes sometimes there are crappy mean people. But there are just as many as these idiots in PVE PUGs. So the comment that PVP is full of elitists is stupid at best.
PVE CAN be more fun than PVP at times, since it's more casual. But it makes me wonder how some PVE'ers can tolerate the repetitiveness of the same map, same monsters spawning in the same exact spot with the same exact skills in a given specific instance. Blah.
I can understand why people don't PVP. It takes too much organization at times. And yes sometimes there are crappy mean people. But there are just as many as these idiots in PVE PUGs. So the comment that PVP is full of elitists is stupid at best.
PVE CAN be more fun than PVP at times, since it's more casual. But it makes me wonder how some PVE'ers can tolerate the repetitiveness of the same map, same monsters spawning in the same exact spot with the same exact skills in a given specific instance. Blah.
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PVE CAN be more fun than PVP at times, since it's more casual. But it makes me wonder how some PVE'ers can tolerate the repetitiveness of the same map, same monsters spawning in the same exact spot with the same exact skills in a given specific instance. Blah.
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Vermilion
I won't go into detail about how Pve is more accessible than Pvp and more casual, thats been said a lot already. 
For me, Pve just got boring. Never during my time with this game have missions and quests really been fun for me. With the deletion of all my Pve characters due to the discovery of my password by someone, I can never get myself to achieve what I have again. (Not much, in any case.)
I came from FPS games though, so Pvp was naturally going to by my eventual destination. Ive been desensitized to dealing with people in competitive games, I guess.
Funny, because I got back into AB/Aspenwood again recently, and got Tiger /ranked by an SP sin in Grenz Frontier. ...
For me, Pve just got boring. Never during my time with this game have missions and quests really been fun for me. With the deletion of all my Pve characters due to the discovery of my password by someone, I can never get myself to achieve what I have again. (Not much, in any case.)
I came from FPS games though, so Pvp was naturally going to by my eventual destination. Ive been desensitized to dealing with people in competitive games, I guess.
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I quit pvp except for the occasional aspenwood because if I got r3 emoted by one more NOOB (yes I said noob) while testing a new build I I was seriously going to snap....O'doyles ftl....and no wamo you arent cool in your fow. you look like a insecure noob with tasteless chicken legged armor.
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i'm sorry this is a semi-noob question, but whats the point of PvE.
I went to kamadan and there are like 12 servers, and other towns have multiple servers too, while random and team arenas has only like 4, and even HA has only 3. It seems like pve is a really big deal, but i can't figure out why. I come from games that the main point of grinding was to PvP (but soon found out the main point of grinding was to grind some more b/c theyre pvp systems suck). I made a NF PvE character before i made a pvp character, so I could get skills to pvp. Around level 16 it got to a point where it was much more effecient to get skills from pvp than grinding for it in pve (and you learn much more about the game from it too) Im not flaming PvE, but i don't see what the big deal is. I mean after level 20 what is there to do? I guess you aim to finish the game, grind for skill points, and do dungeon raids or something like that (UW FoW). Also there is elite armor you can get, but its a bummer because no one can see them in the "instanced" world. The instanced part of the game is interesting because it makes things diablo-like, but its dumb that no one can see your tight armor, team up with you, or help you deal with an extremely hard part of the game. The story is actually insanely good (nightfall) for a mmorpg, but most of the time it feels like im playing a one player (or 12 player co-op )console game, so in those terms it sucks because of the insane down time... collecting god-forsaken sunspear points (of course its much worse for a level 20 character who doesn't get ANYTHING from a quest other than sunspear points). The quests as a whole seem to drag the game down, since unlike most other games, they don't offer items or unlocks for completing quests... just experience and skill points ( i think it would have been more interesting if I got prophecies because they give skills, which you don't have to buy with all your money like nightfall)I'm not bashing PvE or anything, I just feel like I'm missing out on something but i don't know what. |
rpg players have been telling anet and pvpers this for a long time. Now all the pvers are bored with the game.
Tauren Arcanist
More people PvE because the last time I stepped into RA I got my ass kicked by a group of 4 Bunny humpers 5 tries in a row. I cried a bit, ate a hotpocket, and went back to ToA dis1 : )