Slightly annoyed at new attribute panel

I really like the skill panel changes, great organization options, but I too would like the old attribute panel back, also, they should really put the numbers to change the attributes on the right side (instead of the left), as the mouse is naturally on the right from scrolling through skills, it's just more room to travel to change attributes.

At the very least they should put the arrows on the attribute panel in the right order. The "increase" arrow should logically be on the right and the "decrease" one on the left. This is the first thing me and 2 of my friends noticed about the new attribute panel.

I've always wanted to sort them via Profession/Attribute at the same time... Gets annoying scrolling through 50 secondary profession skills before you come to your own professions. Or through a load of elites you've captured each time you want to find something in between 2 of your primary professions attributes. Necro is the worst. You've gotta scroll through Blood, Curses and Death, before you reach your own (Ranger skills usually). Then you get to the bottom and find out the No Attribute section has moved randomly to the top again without you noticing!

As good as the Skill grids are... i don't think i'll ever use it tbh. Its good been able to actively compare the E-cost/Recharge/Cast times of multiple skills.

Guild Wars looked more professional with the old interface (a button for the remaining attribute points, the attribute buttons being in a position more...native to us humans). Now it looks so much more unprofessional. People who get into the game after this update will have a different opinion on GW's interface. Not good for publicity as far as I know.

Know what else I miss? Weapons saying "Req. # <attribute". Putting the full word instead of the abbreviation "req." makes it seem like they don't know anything about abbreviations and they're being all noobish...

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The flipped attribute table makes people read the rows right to left, which is not what Westerners are used to. Since ArenaNet has been good about allowing customization in the past, I really hope it provides the option to flip the table back in a future update.

This is probably the best way to put your skills:


And the attribute set up really is annoying, I don't mind the attributes left over though.
I don't mind the skill bar popping up when I load a template but at least make it so that its outside of the box so when I highlight the title it doesn't get in the way of what I'm trying to read.

I would love to have collapsible skill lines. I've mentioned it randomly, but no one ever picked up on the usefulness of the idea. I really really want to collapse the Hammer Mastery line since I never use it on anyone.

As far as Anet not being able to revert any UI changes, I call bullshit. To my way of thinking, if you put it in there, you can revert it or take it back or however you want to phrase it. I really hope they do that with this ridiculous attribute panel. It's all kinds of wrong.

I agree with everything here. All of the changes were exceptional except the attribute panel. What bothers me above the rest is the switching of the up and down arrows. I mistake those constantly now!

As for the pop-up window over the templates, I just read them with the cursor off to the side. That's just a minor annoyance.

Maybe some checkboxes in the options panel is a winning solution?

Honestly, I like the new attribute panel except for two things, and it appears these two things annoy just about everyone:
1) The attribute setup on the left side (ungh, back to the right side, please)
2) The annoying popup skillbar when you are trying to manage saved builds

Everything else is fine, IMO. I like changes, just not annoying changes.

EDIT: Whoa, missed that post by Feathermoore - Agreed completely, and worded better than mine.

Yep, the left side is very confusing. I like what they've tried to achieve generally, but that one change seems needless and is making my aging brain struggle far more than it should, with a simple task.

I love the update. The attribute window, however, is indeed a bit flawed. It's nice, but it's really confusing to have the arrows on the other side than what we're used to (as in, the up arrow is on the left, down arrow on the right). Also, it could be a good idea to move the previewbox when loading templates a bit to the right.

However, listing skills by icons is hot.

Great update apart from...

1. Template: put the pop-up with the skill icons lower so it doesn't overlap the template name.
2. Attributes: Same thing as the templates... No overlapping please

My thoughts entirely.

I really like the new update

Ferret.

I'm not a fan of the new attribute pane either. Things are in non-intuitive places, the popups obscure things, the entire layout feels poorly designed.

This is my idea of a panel for a right-handed:

BTW, I posted an better idea about this in October'06 (with negative reactions of people) here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10064228

i agree with the op - Pop-ups should not obstruct the UI

I thought it was a bad bad idea at first moving it to the left side but, Like the Male Elite Sunspear Helm for warrior, It grew on me

I don't like it, the tool tips block the number of 'Unused points'. But I like to leave the tooltips on because my girlfriend also plays, but she doesn't remember what everything does all the time.

So whenever I'm trying to get the best uses out of all my stats, I have to keep moving the mouse out of the way so the tooltip closes just so I can see how many points I have left, its very annoying. It would work find though is everything was right aligned, with the tooltip showing up outside the skill window.

I am left handed so what does this make as i use the mouse with my right hand like gear shift in Car all. I would like to see is the total number attributes agian.I wouldn't mind seeing left handed keyboards though the mumber pad on the left.

I hate the new popup in the skill template window. It covers the template names making it difficult to navigate. The same info displays in the bottom of the window, so why does it have to popup too? Or at least why does it popup right over the list?