The Worst Skills in GW

zealous benediction worst elite? are you crazy or sth its one of the best elites in the game...Also Frenzied Defense is extremely powerfull if you know how to use it. To sum up try going ra with this build (just made it out of my mind, i usually go mo/me) :
reversal of fortune,zealous benediction,dismiss condition,protective spirit,frenzied defense,shield of absorption,holy veil,guardian or sth else instead of guardian

p.s. b4 using frenzied use protective spirit

Yeah tbh they really need to get it straight what Protection and Healing actually means...

Even though Healing Seed/Healing Hands are named as Healing skills, there definitions sounds like protection. When you take damage its healed. The only thing that makes it seem like healing is the fact the damage isn't effected in any way.

ZB on the other hand is a straight healing skill. Its effects are the exact same as 2 healing spells and more to the point, almost identical to Word of Healing. It really doesn't belong in Protection... but people would probably whine and bitch if they moved it.

Chilblains isn't a bad skill. Its bad for you to use. But for a Monster is absolutely brilliant.

Otyugh's Cry.
Agree, it's been in the game since 2004 and has yet to be used by anyone, ever.

I agree ZB doesnt really belong in protection. maybe move it to divine that would be fine i think

There are many subpar skills in GW. But that's to be expected when there's a thousand or so of them.

And that gold comes from...?

Trixz isn't joking. He's just an idiot. ZB rocks *mainly* because running full healing is a waste of a monk's time/energy - there's only a handful of Healing Prayers which I believe are all too good (Heal Party - take a bow!), Protection on a halfway decent monk is gonna bring a hell of a lot more to the team than a monk trying to keep all the red bars up.

Whatever - that belongs in another discussion.

Useless skills? Outside of *maybe* full beastmaster teams *cough*lawl*cough* Otyugh's Cry doesn't seem to have much use (when's this BM buff coming? ). There's plenty of attack skills that are near totally trash too - Power Shot, for instance.

There's also plenty of skills that, while not *totally* sucking balls, are simply far too limited/conditional for my tastes.

Guys, this skill might just be a Watch Yourself for pets, but is also unlinked to any attribute.

And by virtue of it doing something, automatically beats Extend Conditions.

I don't think maybe everyone is familiar with this particular skill, so:

Extend Conditions 5 e 1/4 c 20 r
Elite spell.
All Conditions on target foe last 5...81% longer (Maximum 30 seconds).

Fevered Dreams is better than this. Fevered Dreams can at least be used in PvE to AoE condition-slam monsters. The only condition expensive enough to warrant this spell over just re-applying the thing is maybe daze.

Extend Conditions has got to be the worst skill in the game currently, not just for its effect but the potential on your bar it squanders away. The power creeps both ways.

I am open to the idea of a worse skill (worse than Swirling Aura, Elemental Flame, or Oogie-Boogie's Cry), or maybe some meaningful use for this trash. It always feels like mesmers get some of the worst elites, sometimes..

Cathedral Collapse doesn't knock you down.

Mm...a Healing spell in Protection Prayers is good enough, and with a full energy return at <50% is just...hax.

Assuming you use ZB 50% times above 50%, which shouldn't really happen, you get, at 12 Protection: 150 per 5e, which is 30/e. While if you use WoH 50% times, you get 83 per >50% heal and 83*2 per <50% heal, which makes for 24.9/e. Even then it's more efficient.

Enough said.

[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]

Mending, and I concur that Balthazars Pendulum is worthless.

Most Useless Skill Evar: Keystone Signet.
Reasons: I capped it, made a 50% signet build.
Result? Got wiped in 2 seconds because signets have way to damn long of a cast time.

kthxbai

Any elite tweaked to work well enough in one mode of play while, as a result suffering in another mode of play.
That's probably a lot of Elites!
Did I cheat in my answer. hee hee

Heh heh, I assume you ment buff or was joking, that skill is so funny, I remember seeing a lvl 15 lion pack in NF, would not that be cool to see all those lions attack the heckets, however according to wiki they will turn hostile on you as well!

About ZB, ya it really is unfair for the healing line, but o well, I think it is more unfair for the other potental elites in the protection line, for instance life sheath is a perfect example of what one would think a normal protection elite would be. but ZB is much more superior due to the line it is in and its fantastic heal/energy managment. but that is off topic.

Bad skills: perhaps not the worst but I found that signet of strength is a poor skill, as for "the power is yours" elite ya thats really bad. I liked some of ths suggestions on how to change it, it would be intreasting since pargons could rely on adrinline attacks and such while keeping there team with some health energy gain.

To the guy on the first page who said Glimmer of light was bad:

It was incredibly good during the beta when it had a 1 second recharge. They nerfed it.

Zealous Benediction bad? On protection 16 it heals for 190 health +divine bonus...about the same as heal other...but wait, if target had less than 50% health you gain 10 energy...you get to cast it again for free basically. Sounds good to me

Chilblains the worst? Guess you never played a necro...cold damage and removal of enchantments...yes you get poisoned but a necro has skills that transfer conditions. So it's a great combo skill...you hurt a group, take a couple of their enchantments and then you transfer the condition to them...you need to think outside the box a little on this one.
Of course it was a great skill to use against the doppleganger cause you don't give the combo to him and he sits there and dies together with SS and insidious parasite...and you just stand there and watch him die.
Nah there's worse skills out there....

try infuse health: for 10 energy you lose half your health and target is healed for the same + a third of it....a monk or anyone with their health halved is in danger of dying very quickly....imo it will take too much to offset the health loss even in PvE...you'll need protection spells to make yourself less vulnerable etc etc...what's the point in healing someone for 300 health if it kills yourself...

Infuse is one of very few ways to save someone from a spike. Until healer's boon, it was pretty much the only way.

Oh, and otyughs is not the worst skill in the game. It's good in a pet heavy build (though I'm not sure if there's such a thing as a good pet heavy build). It has its use in pve when you're grouping with a buch of other beast masters.

Extend conditions is the worst skill, by far.

What?

Chilblains is awesome!

It allows you to say "O RLY" to all the Awakened Dune Carvers using Vow of Silence.

As for "The Power is Yours!" would this not have a decent place on a Mesmer/Paragon with high command and Inspiration using Mantra of Inscriptions and signets so energy is not an issue?

Umm...[wiki]Symbolic Celerity[/wiki] anyone?


My useless skill is [wiki]Symbolic Posture[/wiki]...why would you use this when you could use [wiki]Mantra of Inscriptions[/wiki]?

As well as agreeing with some of the afore mentioned skills these ones have to be mentioned

[skill]swap[/skill] The ultimate skill no one should be without, lol as if. I dont ive Ever seen or heard of anyone using it.

[skill]Dark Bond[/skill] What goods a minion based skill when its on in the attribute with minions

[skill]Second Wind[/skill] Heh dont even get me started on this one

Say why is there no conjure Earth or Mind Quake (same as Freeze and burn etc.) skill? seems to me Earth gets the rough end of the Eles skill spectrum.

Swap is good for a Channeling Rit with Destruction and Rupture Soul...

I wouldn't call Chilblains the worst skill, but it is very awful. It uses a ton of energy, the damage a player can do with it is minimal (elemental = reduced by armor and level - against high level monster monks/necromancers/mesmers it'll do about 30 damage), and it's range isn't too hot.

The condition transfer skills aren't extremely hot for a necromancer primary; the most awesomest one is Plague Touch, and that's more of a melee dudes tool.

So most of the time, Rend Enchantments and Gaze of Contempt performs better than Chilblains.

Beaver might have given a situation where it's pretty useful - my indesire to play through Nightfall so far has left me (satellite modems are not fun) ignorant of the later half of that campaign.

It's a pretty okay protection enchantment. Even with zero blood it can be kept up all the time.

Second Wind also counts its own Exhaustion in its energy return. The skill is clearly linked to Energy Storage >_> if not explicitly, then functionally. I guess if you want the Energy RIGHT NOW.......... you could tinker around with Ether Prism??

.... the only skill that has the same direct functionality as Second Wind is Energy Boon (unless you want to spec for Offering of Blood/Spirit....). Second Wind will give higher energy return when your exhaustion goes beyond 20 with it.

That it recharges in 5 seconds also makes it vicious for pumping out energy for massive Exhaustion.

Extend Conditions!

Balthazar's Pendulum is pretty lame. Would be kind of cool if it knocked down someone who hit the dude.

Rend or Gaze can't remove Shadow Form or Obsidian Flesh or Spellbreaker or Vow of Silence. Course Vow has the advantage of been that low duration you can just interrupt it when they try to recast it.

But removing the other 2 ASAP is handy. Signet of Disenchantment can only go so far.

I dunno why, but Balthazaars Pendulum sounds like it should be the Mark of Protection of the Smiting line, it reverses XX damage back to whoever attacked for X seconds. Guess it would be too powerful for farming or just completely worthless though...

Worst skills ?
Discord, Lamentation...
Worst class ?
Rit. Just need to remove it from the game.

Discord - try it with four or so AI heros with it. Be amazed at the Obsidian Flame level damage coming out every two seconds.

The Ritualist really hasn't been well defined.

Not worst but look compare these 2

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Swirling_Aura

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/%22Shields_Up%21%22

Sophita... I hope you're sarcastic about Dark Bond. IMO it's one of the few *essential* MM skills. Who cares if it's in Blood? It can still be kept up permanently at 0 rank.

Swap has uses - as someone mentioned, rits could find a use for it. It's also pretty good on a 'sin for getting close to a spirit spammer or MM safely. There's a *hell* of a lot worse skills than Swap.

Also... The reason Earth doesn't have Mind Quake and Conjure Earth is 'cuz Earth eles got Obs. Flame and Ward vs. Melee instead. Much better.

Scavenger's Focus is embarassingly weak. If you're using a bow, Read the Wind is better. If you're NOT using a bow, in order to make it pump out an amount of damage that would make it worth the elite slot, you need an amount of Wilderness Survival which is, frankly, difficult to reach for non-Rangers... so if you ARE a ranger, why aren't you using a bow? This doesn't work with a thumper or expertise sin... I just don't see the use.

Meekness hardly seems worth it... the extra area it has over Shadow of Fear doesn't matter with Shadow's miniscule recharge.

Breath of Fire is inferior to Fire Storm in just about every way... and that's friggin' Fire Storm.

Banishing Strike is so conditional as to be nigh-worthless... I guess it could be fun in AB, but still.

Lava Arrows is just confusing as to why it even exists. Half range on an ele isn't good, the damage is inferior to Flare (Flare!), even the multi-targeting isn't that useful due to its tiny range (adjacent)...

Muddy Terrain is one of those skills that's designed to be used by monsters, not humans. I can think of no time that it would be useful in PvE, and in PvP, there's almost no time that it would make enough of a difference that it would be worth snaring your OWN team along with the enemy. The reactions if you use this in AB are humorous, I admit, but humorous and useful rarely overlap.

I have tried and tried, but I cannot find a use for Malign Intervention. Seriously.

Has anyone ever used Winds of Disenchantment? Seriously? If each foe could lose more than one it MIGHT be worth the large amount of sacrificed enchantments it needs to be better than most other enchant removal, but as it is... why?

It pains me to say this, but Fragility is just so hard to use it's tempting to call it worthless. It may have been overpowered earlier, but even basing your entire build around it, it's hard to do a respectable amount of damage with it.

Similarly, I have NEVER seen Griffon's Sweep or Leviathan's Sweep used. Why do they exist? What is their purpose? WHY IS THERE TWO OF THEM?

Snare. Why would anyone take Snare when Barbed Trap does the same thing only BETTER, with the SAME CAST TIME and SAME RECHARGE, for only ten more energy (which you should have plenty of Expertise for anyway)? If Snare recharges in 10 seconds I could maybe see it. Maybe.

Point Blank Shot/Zojun's Shot. The range is prohibitive and the damage isn't worth it... not to mention that they cost too much to take advatage of their quick recharge times, the one advantage they have over Power Shot (yes, Power Shot).

Ignite Arrows. Fun in pre-searing, I suppose, but it's mediocre damage, reduced by armor, that casuses foes to scatter. If I'm going to have my enemies running from me, I want the damage they're fleeing to make it worth it (Sandstorm pre-nerf, for example)

If Spell Shield had a lesser cast time it would be decent for emergency situations (last-ditch Rebirthing, for example), but... the huge cast time, downtime, and skill disable make this skill firmly Not Worth It.

Unyielding Aura. WHYYYYYYYY.

Amity. Why is this elite? Why does it have a 45s recharge? Why isn't the area bigger?

Kirin's Wrath and Symbol of Wrath are another baffling pair. Why would a smite monk want to get point blank, then cast a two second long spell? At least use Balthazar's Aura so you can chase them and inflict more than two hits.

Stone Sheath. There are better ways to prevent criticals that aren't elite... and forcing earth damage isn't that big of a deal. Definitely not worth the elite, anyway.

That's enough for now.

I don't really feel there is TRULY any bad skills. Ok-well maybe there are a few-but overall, It is how the person uses them IMO

Right now it actually looks like ArenaNet is running out of ideas for skills...because with the introduction of Nightfall, and already a load of nerfs (Bye Bye Paragon) there really is nothing new. There are lots of dupes of skills, and most of those dupes are just worse versions of the skills. You gotta admit that many skills are just copies of another. There are some good original skills but right now it looks like they running dry.

So yeah that's pretty much another reason this thread was made...to point out those skills

[skill]Reverse Hex[/skill]
imho

ZB is too crapy and conditional.

Is Symbolic a stance? (wiki not displaying correctly for me, i'm not at home), and if it isn't, would they stack? I'm starting to see something here... ZOMG, IT COULD BE THE KEY TO BANE-SIGNET SPIKE

As for Shield's Up, I have the paragon bring it in FoW (in addition to Watch Yourself) so that we can tank the Shadow Rangers without troubles. Barrage is alot less painful that way.

Second wind is actually a good skill if you know how to use it, dark bond is pretty useful aswel.

Try using swap then rapture soul on destruction, its not the most imbalanced thing in the game, but it has a use.

Used it as a rank 200 guild with 2 mm bombers and a total of 6 pets, had revive animal, call to haste, the general idea was to overload with melee try to get all those +10-20 damage add up pretty much like moving spirits, worked decently, but not very useful and more a for fun build.

there is no conjure earth because it would be horribly abused by geo farmers. you wouldnt have to put points in another attribute to deal damage.

When you're an assassin, getting hit with Stone Sheath is deeply depressing.

You'd be surprised. My smiting monk always carries one or the other of them (depending on the visual effect I want to see when using it). It's extremely useful as an emergency defensive mechanism if you're surrounded and can't get away - the AoE update that made monsters flee was a huge benefit in this situation. Even if you go down before the damage forces the monsters off you, it'll still last long enough for the monsters to be forced away from your corpse's location, so when you're rezzed the area is guaranteed to be clear and you can heal yourself back to full health and get down to business again without being pestered by incoming attacks.

Dark bond is constant with 0 blood... and you're gonna have 3 or 4 if you throw some change into it, so it's a really good self-prot for a MM.

The problem is, of course, why does MM need a self-prot? When you're on top of things and have 10 minions running around, nothing is gonna get to you anyway. Unless it's PvP... then it's really good because an active MM poses more threat that pretty much everything else and you'll be the #1 target. Of course, "who the hell runs a MM in PvP?" is another question.

I guess it's a good AB skill...

(It used to be a whole lot more useful when blood of the master healed minions "in the area" and you had to be on the frontline with them.)