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Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

21 Mar 2007 at 01:07 - 201

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HOLY CRAP!!!

Well, there is some stuff that sounds exciting to me, some stuff that has me curious and worried for the details seem only partially detailed, and alot of time to ponder in between.

I know I want to check out GW:EN.

GW2?

GAILE! WERE DO WE SING UP FOR THE BETA?!?!?!?!
I want to see this in action before I make any doom/praise statements on the future of GW.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

21 Mar 2007 at 01:07 - 202

Thanks for the info.

Now to sign up for GW2 beta

Still don't know what would be cooler, Gwen hero to stand by your side, or Gwen the Destroyer, evil archqueen of chapter 4

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:08 - 203

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inde

Ah ha! I have the 'partial' answer to this according to the article. Your titles/achievements will be transferable and "will go down in history via a monument in your honor." It will act as a family inheritance, a place where your GW1 titles and minipets (these were the examples) are displayed and and allow access to some GW2 benefits. Such as you can put your weapons in a display case and have your GW2 characters use them. You'll have to have the Eye of the North chapter in order to gain all this though.

Alright a grave yard ----

PS thank you for the reply Inde

bubbadoll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Brisbane

o Ameralia o

E/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:08 - 204

this will be my last post about this topic...

and sorry if i'm a c*nt..

but i want a refund on my extra character slots! :þ

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:08 - 205

*shrug*

Anet listens to some players, other players complain.

Thats how it always goes.

These changes will please some, piss off others.

What are you gonna do?

If the lag continues though...im gone. :P

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:09 - 206

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazjun

Thanks for the info.

Now to sign up for GW2 beta

Still don't know what would be cooler, Gwen hero to stand by your side, or Gwen the Destroyer, evil archqueen of chapter 4

She's what, 12 years old by the end of Nightfall? Yea, real useful hero...

Bo Azum

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Mongoose United

Rt/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:09 - 207

The +20 level might just be a sort of title. Like, Legendary Survivor is about lvl 100 not died. It doesn't make anyone any stonger.

There's been requests about showing off your XP. Maybe this will be it... A character with 1,337k XP, will have level 100, but will be in theory as strong or weak as a character with 140k XP, at level 20, concerning attributes and such.

As said, XP does not tell player capabilities, neither does any title.

Sure hope I'm right, would hate to lvl grind to be allowed to do something

Teddi

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/E

21 Mar 2007 at 01:10 - 208

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

Just curious (and too lazy to find out for myself); is PC gamer sold in Canada, or at least Toronto? I don't want to walk into a store and end up looking like a complete idiot, if they don't even sell in Canada...

I'm fairly certain they do.

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

21 Mar 2007 at 01:10 - 209

I’m sorry Inde thanks for the whole update, you did a fine job piecing things together. Anyways I’ll wait until thing cool down here before I start asking any questions it’s a mad house in here. If you can do me a favor and give me an update about the professions I would really appreciate it. Otherwise the question gets lost in this mess.

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:12 - 210

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbadoll

this will be my last post about this topic...

and sorry if i'm a c*nt..

but i want a refund on my extra character slots! :þ

agreed

unless we can carry the extra slots over to gw2

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 01:12 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Azum

The +20 level might just be a sort of title. Like, Legendary Survivor is about lvl 100 not died. It doesn't make anyone any stonger.

There's been requests about showing off your XP. Maybe this will be it... A character with 1,337k XP, will have level 100, but will be in theory as strong or weak as a character with 140k XP, at level 20, concerning attributes and such.

As said, XP does not tell player capabilities, neither does any title.

Sure hope I'm right, would hate to lvl grind to be allowed to do something

That's not "advancement." Advancement is a physical growth.

As I said in the other thread, the "advancement" will likely be additional damage only effective in PvE.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:13 - 212

Eye of the North Sale +1.
GuildWars 2 sale -1.

art of war

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

maryland

way of the phoenix

A/W

21 Mar 2007 at 01:13 - 213

well the higher level cap sounds cooler. it feel like pso all over again

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:14 - 214

Well that's good about what you said Inde, that means my titles I've collected won't go to waste totally, neither the weapons/shields I'm presuming. That keeps me happy kind of. I'll just have fun right now though, instead of worrying about having my 11 characters beat the game. Well 9 now. Just use Gareth to do everything and take it easy with all the others. Smooth fun roads ahead.

Brandon1107

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:14 - 215

....I don't like it at all. It feels to me Anet just wants it to be like all other MMO's...this makes me sad, I probably ain't getting it.

VendingMachine

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 01:15 - 216

This GW2 is become more like WoW (Scream like a girl). Stick to the level 20 level cap please please please please. I don't mind the other stuff.

please

PRETTY PLEASE

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 01:16 - 217

Quote:

Well that's good about what you said Inde, that means my titles I've collected won't go to waste totally, neither the weapons/shields I'm presuming.

What about armor and cash/other items?

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

21 Mar 2007 at 01:16 - 218

Everyone is gonna complain, that's what change does to people.

Anet Made history by changing the formula, sounds like they are doing it again. I LOVE the Idea that things will be more persistant, that will add to the in-game community. The level cap sounds odd, but I bet they will pull it off well. As for the races, I'm allways down for more visual variety.

I am intrigued by GW2. EotN sounds great too. We'll see!

edit: Hope we can atleast take our GOLD over to GW2, geez!

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

21 Mar 2007 at 01:16 - 219

I feel sad ATM, cuz of the higher level cap, and playable races, well I don't have a problem with Charr, but the rest are just weird. Please reconsider some of the things your trying to do, maybe take a poll in diff forums, I am pretty sure you haven't gone too much into the game so there is still the posibility of change to plans right? I mean you want your game to sell, don't you? that is your goal right?

One question, are you people going to be using a similar engine to that of Aion: the tower of eternity?

Well, I actually do not mind a level 30 cap (or 31, Glint FTW!!!), but the rest is just a little like other mmos out there. I moved to GW cuz it was different, it felt more like an FPS game than a grinding alternate social life like WoW. Hm....DX10 huh? so in the graphics setting, we're gonna have ULTRA MODE as a choice?

Psuedo Halgoen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

GMT+10

21 Mar 2007 at 01:17 - 220

If you can bring your weapons over via gwen can you also bring your money over via this monument?

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:17 - 221

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannzzigg

To all those complaining about the raised level cap...

A higher level cap simply does not mean that a level 100 is better than a level 30.

It does not mean that you have to grind to be "competetive".

It does not mean that your level 33 Warrior will have a problem getting into a party where the predominant levels are much higher (well, unless you use the GW2 equivalent of Mending, that is

)

ANet has done a great job of introducing high demand items that are no better in function than other, easier to obtain items. If you WANT to grind for those higher demand items (certain Green drops, rare weapon skins, FoW armor etc...) you are welcome to, but not having them will in no way affect your ability to play the game at the same level as someone who has all of it and then some.

This model can easily be used regarding levels. If at say, level 30, you stop gaining attribute points (if there even is such a thing in the new game) but continue to grow in other ways (ranks, titles, whatever) then there is opportunity for those who like to grind and earn the hard-to-get stuff that is in no way detrimental to those who simply don't want to or do not have the time to do it themselves.

Simply put, a higher level cap can mean many different things. It does not have to equate to higher level = more powerful character. Think outside the box. ANet does.

Just wanted to quote this again, for all of those out there that are blowing the whole level cap thing out of proportion. We don't know anything yet, so just relax.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:19 - 222

Quote:

Originally Posted by VendingMachine

This GW2 is become more like WoW (Scream like a girl). Stick to the level 20 level cap please please please please. I don't mind the other stuff.

please

PRETTY PLEASE

Just as long it takes less than a month to reach the level cap. In WoW, it takes 5 months. >.<

LoneWolfWinter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

21 Mar 2007 at 01:19 - 223

Ugh, you have to be kidding me. No character transferring = byebye lots of old people who played this game. I'm sure I speak for a lot of people when I say after putting many many hours into characters (ex: my favorite character, my warrior, is at 992 hours, which is nothing compared to alot of people) nevermind all the grinding for armor, equipment, and everything else, I can't see anyone being happy about losing their characters. If anet want to make GW2 work they need to remember that, hey, NOT PISSING OFF OUR CURRENT FANBASE WOULD BE A REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD IDEA.

However, given this speculation, goodbye guild wars, hello age of conan.

KIDGOOCH

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

MD

R/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:19 - 224

Since there is no character transfer, then this is a true standalone game. Does that then mean that the devs will stop working on the the first 3 part series? Prophecies has become the unwanted step child in the first set, considering how it got pummeled when they added Factions (Flesh Golem, and Rits) and Nightfall (Heroes). The second and third chapters have most bosses with weapons that drop, while Proph is limited to Sorrows Furnace and Tombs. Just remember from back in the day when everyone played Diablo, and then when D2 came out Diablo just fell by the wayside. I'm scared this will happen to GW, and since most things are group/team based even in PvE, it may be even harder to fill a "warm body" party.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:19 - 225

If my ARMOR, and my weapons come over, I'm buying it, IF I get the names I want!

Rakeman

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 01:21 - 226

I can't believe it. GW:EN is taking the series in the right direction... then GW2 completely ruins that. Well, at least I can go back to playing FPS and RTS games. Like Faer said... congrats with the fortune, Anet! I'm glad everything GW stood for is being destroyed for GW2. GW was the RPG for people who hated MMOs, the game with the low level cap, the game based on skill... then GW2 comes. Good luck being in direct competition with WoW, the biggest MMO on the planet. You're gonna need it.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 01:23 - 227

I will agree with retribution once more, it's simply too much of a thing to forget for a lot of players including myself. I am not addicted, hardly from it, but I'm not gonna wait around for another game just to get slapped in the face again in this manner. Guys, you are hitting the mark for GW2 in all aspects, by just slightly changing your character policy it will severly increase your odds of success for gw2.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 01:24 - 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift Thief

Just as long it takes less than a month to reach the level cap. In WoW, it takes 5 months. >.<

It takes 5 months if you play, like only 4-5 hours a week. I could easily hit the level cap in 2 months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIDGOOCH

Since there is no character transfer, then this is a true standalone game. Does that then mean that the devs will stop working on the the first 3 part series? Prophecies has become the unwanted step child in the first set, considering how it got pummeled when they added Factions (Flesh Golem, and Rits) and Nightfall (Heroes). The second and third chapters have most bosses with weapons that drop, while Proph is limited to Sorrows Furnace and Tombs. Just remember from back in the day when everyone played Diablo, and then when D2 came out Diablo just fell by the wayside. I'm scared this will happen to GW, and since most things are group/team based even in PvE, it may be even harder to fill a "warm body" party.

The OP says that they have a team working on GW1 after GW2 is released. Of course, no one will be playing GW1. So that's moot.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:27 - 229

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacasner

Your comparisons are flawed..none of these things are similar to mmo type games.
You simply do not understand effect of these characters on future decisions in mmo's.

I think you rushed to a conclusion to prove your point.

Look at the theme of what I'm comparing, rather than the actual items compared.

I could compare apples and oranges to war and peace. Apples, Oranges, War and Peace have no common similarity (out of context), but depending upon how I present it, the THEME does.

What I am saying is, one day either ANet is going to shut down the servers, you are going to grow tired of video games, or some other event to separate you from Guild Wars.

At that point, do you look at it as "I had fun" or "my characters are no longer playable" ?

I'm trying to keep my analogies to MMO elements (or video games at least), since when I go out of that range, it seems to draw confusion.

Halo 1. You play through, Master Chief destroys the ring world and kills the Flood/Covenant/Humans there. The story ends, you are victorious. If they did not make a Halo 2, would you say the time you invested in Halo 1 was pointless?

I think perhaps you are trying to say the items, gold, gear and titles you have invested in, would be "all for naught" in Guild Wars 2, as you would be starting fresh like everyone else (With that Monument thing withstanding...). In a way I can understand and share your sentiment, but at the same time, they are completely different games within the same "universe."

If you don't want to lose your character, continue to play it in GW1. If you want to experience a game for what it is, play GW2. It -is- a fully separate game.

I'm not trying to single you out for this, I'm just trying to say that the world is not ending because you are 'forced' to play new characters and are apparently unable to transfer your accumulated 'loot.'

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 01:27 - 230

4 new Playable races:

* Sylvari
* Asuras
* Charr
* Norn

hmm m whats a sylvari and wahts a norn. Charr is obvious (ugly things in ascalon) and asuras are little ugly elves

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

21 Mar 2007 at 01:29 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Azum

The +20 level might just be a sort of title. Like, Legendary Survivor is about lvl 100 not died. It doesn't make anyone any stonger.

There's been requests about showing off your XP. Maybe this will be it... A character with 1,337k XP, will have level 100, but will be in theory as strong or weak as a character with 140k XP, at level 20, concerning attributes and such.

As said, XP does not tell player capabilities, neither does any title.

Sure hope I'm right, would hate to lvl grind to be allowed to do something

After reading your post and thinking about it, i think you're right. everybody will stop gaining Health and mana at 20 but the lvl will still go up. Hope someone who knows for sure can clear this up.

Now my thoughts on GW2. I'm a PvE-er. I love being better than somebody who hasn't put in as much time and effort as me. so after reading the summary on GW2 i am excited about the radical changes in GW2 and was thinking of getting it if i ever get bored of WoW which is going to be sooner than i expected. I hope that what Bo Azum said (read quote above) will not be true as it would mean that when ppl see me at lvl 100 they will say "OMG u noob. Have you seen daylight recently?" and not "OMG u r so uber!

".

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 01:30 - 232

Quote:

I'm not trying to single you out for this, I'm just trying to say that the world is not ending because you are 'forced' to play new characters and are apparently unable to transfer your accumulated 'loot.'

Your right as well, and perhaps I did rush to prove my point, but think of it in this perspective. Maybe it's a sign simply to stop spending time and money on these "unbeatable" games, so to speak. Only mmo's present this problem, because for instance in Halo I can beat it and be fully satisfied, and realize it is just a game I had a lot of fun in. Do you get my point kinda?

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 01:30 - 233

Lol

At least they didn't copy the classic fantasy races like Elves or Dwarves or Ogres as playable Races. It'll be exciting to see what Sylvaris and Norns are. But Imo... I liek Charrs cuz teh "CHARR SEZ RAWR!"

Noz Crow

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:30 - 234

The whole level grinding thing isn't for me, that i am sure of. I just hope and pray that they will release a patch or a crazy long download that will make the original Guild Wars a stand alone game i can play on my computer without logging into there servers. That way my characters can live on and i can replay the old missions as often as i want. Heck maybe even check out a few of the profs i haven't played yet (srry mes and rit). The original is the best game i have played and now it is terminally ill. I want them to find a cure so it can live , live dam it live.

Remeard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Charter Vanguard

N/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:31 - 235

Obviously, ArenaNet are NIN fans http://yearzero.nin.com/ (track 13) :P

Sorry, had to say it

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

21 Mar 2007 at 01:31 - 236

quite frankly, seeing as i will be unable to bring my ranger through to the next campaign i will NOT be purchasing it, to me this game is a never ending quest to get mmore crap for my ranger and to play, well.. with my ranger, and my other characterss are meant to make money, for my ranger, soo see the point is, if i cannot transfer him and his items i will not be purchasing it, and i'm sure many others will be following me, way to mess up anet, you really had a good thing going.

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

21 Mar 2007 at 01:32 - 237

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolfWinter

Ugh, you have to be kidding me. No character transferring = byebye lots of old people who played this game. I'm sure I speak for a lot of people when I say after putting many many hours into characters (ex: my favorite character, my warrior, is at 992 hours, which is nothing compared to alot of people) nevermind all the grinding for armor, equipment, and everything else, I can't see anyone being happy about losing their characters. If anet want to make GW2 work they need to remember that, hey, NOT PISSING OFF OUR CURRENT FANBASE WOULD BE A REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD IDEA.

Agreed. Thats why i won't be in GW2.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:33 - 238

Guild Wars 2?More like GuildWars :Generic MMORPG #43562.

No really.If you've played MMO's before you could EASILY go right through that list and see that all of these things have been done time and time again.

Sigh.Whatever Anet.Drive a perfectly good game into the ground.

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:33 - 239

I'm afraid that everything I've come to associate with GW will be tossed out the window, especially with the level cap. I realize it's early to speculate, but I can't deny that I'm not anxious to hear more. I really hope A-net keeps competitive PvP around the same, especially with GvGs. The Monument Hall thingy is an interesting idea, if it centers around titles or something, and a lot of the proposed PvE sounds interesting as well, such as new races.

I'm mostly worried about the level cap though.

Noa Lutra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 01:38 - 240

Hold on, NO CHARACTER TRANSFER?

I've created my characters a long time ago and I've grown quite attached to them, seeing them evolve over the campaigns. And now you're saying we can't transfer them over GW2?

Escuse me?

Gaile, the reason I play GW is because, like I've said, I've grown attached to my characters. All 17 of them actually. Without any kind of transfer to GW2 you can't count me out of GW2.

All the investment; 2 copies of each campaigns, 2 collector editions, 2 pre-order, 1 GOTY edition, extra character slots.... ALL gone down the drain because you can't implement a simple character transfer. I don't care about weapons, or armor. It's the characters.

Someone said that GWEN was taking the whole Guild Wars bus on the right road. Right until that bus went down, Wile E. Coyote style, down the ravine with that "no character transfer" thing in GW2.

THUD!

Dunno, I was thinking about getting more of my characters into NF but after reading this, I feel like doing the laundry is a better idea.