The Chestrunners Thread

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

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Does any one have a good chest run build for an Ele?

Yarghetaus

Yarghetaus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Clan Acciaio [AcO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by KycooGhost
Does any one have a good chest run build for an Ele?
[skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]feigned neutrality[/skill][skill]dark escape[/skill][skill]shadow refuge[/skill][skill]shadow form[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]deadly paradox[/skill]

20% enchantments weapon.

Basically, keep djinn haste up, use dash to break aggro in HM, use deadly+SF while opening chests. Feigned neutrality and Shadow refuge helps a lot against degen hexes. Can use it almost everywhere with a little bit of time practicing

IattackU

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

NJ, America

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yarghetaus
[skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]feigned neutrality[/skill][skill]dark escape[/skill][skill]shadow refuge[/skill][skill]shadow form[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]deadly paradox[/skill]

20% enchantments weapon.

Basically, keep djinn haste up, use dash to break aggro in HM, use deadly+SF while opening chests. Feigned neutrality and Shadow refuge helps a lot against degen hexes. Can use it almost everywhere with a little bit of time practicing
sweet, ill get right on trying this and give you feedback.

Ok, I just tryed this on the Poisoned Outcrops run. I did manage to make it even though i died once, that was on NM. (btw got 4 chests and 3 lockpick saves) So probably a little more practice and this will work.

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

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Thanks I'll also be testing this one out.

ghostlyfenix

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yarghetaus
[skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]feigned neutrality[/skill][skill]dark escape[/skill][skill]shadow refuge[/skill][skill]shadow form[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]deadly paradox[/skill]

20% enchantments weapon.

Basically, keep djinn haste up, use dash to break aggro in HM, use deadly+SF while opening chests. Feigned neutrality and Shadow refuge helps a lot against degen hexes. Can use it almost everywhere with a little bit of time practicing
add deaths charge[skill]death's charge[/skill] incase u get blocked by some creeps...rubberband

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

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posting here my favourite chestrun route. told several ppl about this ingame but i guess i'm posting it for everyone now.
this is simply the fastest and easiest HM chestrun u may find.

leviathan pits --> hatchery explorable.
if u find 2 chests in the big reefclaw/jaqui plain just /resign and start over. ^ the plain run is usualy 90 seconds including loading times.
should u find 0 or only 1 chest just go on. there are up to 5 chests in the map.
after 15000+ chests i can safely say it's 65-70 HM chests / hour.

Interesting drops are Jade swords / axes. canthan hand axe (the non inscr one) emblazoned defenders, outcast shields and oni blades (only from chests surrounded by onis).
anyway. here's the vid showing a full run should u find no chests at the beginning. there might be a 5th chest in the west part of the map, but it wasnt profitable time wise to go find it. 4 in 3:20 was fine
ignore me dying before picking up the last chest item, i lagged a bit and naga surronded me
have fun

http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=OTFIFFAO

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

theres also a map on the 1st page

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
theres also a map on the 1st page
was i supposed to look through 204 posts to look for it? received loads of pm's and had to post it

The Far Shooter

The Far Shooter

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Teutonic Monks [Holy]

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Is there a ranger build to CR in Hell's Precipice? I really want a Magmas Shield :P

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Far Shooter
Is there a ranger build to CR in Hell's Precipice? I really want a Magmas Shield :P
Just use R/A .. the usual sin skills and ranger running skills, deaths charge is decent here, also shadow form is to.

The Far Shooter

The Far Shooter

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Teutonic Monks [Holy]

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okay, does anyone have the route for this run??

And also... if you have a titan quest open e.g. Defend Droknar's Forge do the chests have titan stuff in them? and what places, only mineral springs or...?

Quartermaine

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

my join date>yours

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hi just took a 6 month hiatus from GW and am looking to finish my CR title, 1 queston do req 8's still NOT drop in HM?

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quartermaine
1 queston do req 8's still NOT drop in HM?
Max dmg Req 8 from chest? from what I've seen NO. from monsters or killing stuff NO (but some around the forums say YES and i have yet to see any my self)


***EDIT****
I meant GOLD drops.. sorry mybad

royal mercenary

royal mercenary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Me/Rt

already got a r7dropped but that was while vanquishing, but they do drop

expounder2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

is chest running in hard mode profitable? Like, if i bought a bunch of lock picks and opened chests, could i make enough back to pay for the lock picks? Also, what can you get from chests that is worth something. I know you can get purples and golds and unidentified runes. Is there something good to look for?

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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you can get tomes and other stuff mainly money is dependant on luck and how many chests you open
@royal i was under the impression that req 7's dont drop anymore so for now imma call you a liar until i get a screenie

The Far Shooter

The Far Shooter

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Teutonic Monks [Holy]

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Elite tomes would probably get you the bulk of your money back. But also the fact on how many lockpicks you retian effects how much you will spend and what your net profit would be.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by chessyang
Max dmg Req 8 from chest? from what I've seen NO. from monsters or killing stuff NO (but some around the forums say YES and i have yet to see any my self)
i dropped a 15-22 14^50 FDS Q8 a while ago (but purple :/ )
from monsters in NM though

Matt_Night

Matt_Night

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Poland

[SOLL]

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any advice for an efficient chest running GW:EN route guys?
those maps just seem to be big as life... :|

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

I'm getting 45-50 chests per hour running Fronis Irontoe's Lair. Best of all, its doable by any class and pretty much impossible to die.

clicky for video

Dark Paladin X

Dark Paladin X

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yarghetaus
[skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]feigned neutrality[/skill][skill]dark escape[/skill][skill]shadow refuge[/skill][skill]shadow form[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]deadly paradox[/skill]

20% enchantments weapon.

Basically, keep djinn haste up, use dash to break aggro in HM, use deadly+SF while opening chests. Feigned neutrality and Shadow refuge helps a lot against degen hexes. Can use it almost everywhere with a little bit of time practicing
This is actually quite good, I try this even though of the lowered time for shadow form. I might as well do an assassin variation after I have my elementalst get the max treasure hunter title.

Other than that, here are some tips:
  1. Know what skills the enemy use, they may have snares and/or speed buffs
  2. ALWAYS try chest running in normal mode
  3. If you want to increase the lucky title track with lockpicks, then farm low-end chests. In other words, ascalon and shing jea in normal mode, but if you want good loot, then go to hard areas like south shiverpeaks or the luxon area
  4. Find safe spots and avoid popups (if you see a chest with no visible foes around, expect popups)
  5. Check your retain chance when using lockpicks and compare which is better, using a normal key, or a lockpick
  6. Remember, speed buffs and survival is important when chest running
Also, keep in note that since you are running like crazy, you might as well get legendary cartographer.

Psychology

Psychology

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Inside your head!!?

Liars cheats and Thieves [Liar]

W/E

Does anyone have a build for CR Snowman caves in EoTN HM, i read that it's got alot of chests their.

I wanted to CR to max my title, alternative to witmans which has sucky gold drop rate.


Also does anyone know of a area with a consistent Chest spawns?

And could a warrior run the snowman caves, not using a SF build that is.

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

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any one can say easy running for mesmer ?

i want run just for tittles .. for wisdom and Treasure Hunter ...



and second ... where u sell the gold weapons ?

i often sell to merchant ..
its boring to stay in city and spaming .. WTS ...

Yarghetaus

Yarghetaus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Clan Acciaio [AcO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychology
Does anyone have a build for CR Snowman caves in EoTN HM, i read that it's got alot of chests their.

I wanted to CR to max my title, alternative to witmans which has sucky gold drop rate.


Also does anyone know of a area with a consistent Chest spawns?

And could a warrior run the snowman caves, not using a SF build that is.
I don't really think you could CR Snowman's cave except than going down there and butcher them all
If you don't like Witman, give a try to Mirror of Lyss (NF area), Boreas Seabed (Factions) or Poisoned Outcrops (again NF).

Krye Dimag

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Souls of Torment [RIP]

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Mirror of Lyss -

Does anyone have a picture of the route?

Yarghetaus

Yarghetaus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Clan Acciaio [AcO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krye Dimag
Mirror of Lyss -

Does anyone have a picture of the route?
Search is your best friend, but since we're close to Christmas, here you go:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=68

Mr Mc Spleen

Mr Mc Spleen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Death Serpents of Hell

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
I'm getting 45-50 chests per hour running Fronis Irontoe's Lair. Best of all, its doable by any class and pretty much impossible to die.

clicky for video
Can you post your build and Att please?

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Mc Spleen
Can you post your build and Att please?
Builds and attributes has nothing to say as your skills will be replaced by the brawling skills. 12 in dagger mastery would help though.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Boreal Station is a pretty easy run, too.

You run to the Worms outside and find 1 and rarely 2 chests there. Then you zone back. I am currently evaluating if it is faster than the Mirror of Lyss. On the other hand I wanted to stop treasure hunting, actually... (max title number of chests takes a lot of time)

Mr Mc Spleen

Mr Mc Spleen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Death Serpents of Hell

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Quote:
Originally Posted by blurmedia
Builds and attributes has nothing to say as your skills will be replaced by the brawling skills. 12 in dagger mastery would help though.
Ahh... I see now, Just got Eotn 3 days ago and tryed this out. I got pretty lucky with my one lockpick and got 5 uses out of it with 40% retain rate.
Drops Have been sucky with the one gold Tidal staff and 3 purple canes and water staff.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

I guess this is the right thread for this?

I have worked hard to improve my retention rate and am close to both R4 Treasure Hunter and R4 Lucky.

I have been running chests a lot in Normal Mode, Shiverpeak Chests, in Witman's Folly using lockpicks. My retain is 55% and the golds come out at 33%. I have run around 500 chests like this and kept a log of all the RP/BP/RG/BG results. I found that for the first 300-400 everything was *exactly* as per the proportions above.

But now, suddenly, I have noticed some kind of 'anti farm' kick in. Over the last 200 lockpicks I have broken around 70% and the loot from the chests has been 10% gold and 90% purple. This is not just a bad run, it's just BP, BP, BP endlessly now.... I leave it a few days, do some other stuff, and then come back and it's the same.

Maybe this is just the game telling me to go and do something else, but I really wanted to get these titles to a meaningful level as I play a lot of Hard Mode and wanted 30% retain HM and 60% NM. I am also working on the Wisdom track.

Now I see that A-Net has put some invisible anti-farm flag on my account, probably guessing that I am a bot, and I have no idea how to make it go away. This really sucks - A-Net is lying to you about retention rates. It can change whenever they feel like it. And they must HATE chest runners. All I can say now is that it's now costing me too much to continue, and I'm going to have to stop. It's just break, break, break.... and runs of 10-15 purple instead of 1/3 before. I have considered going back to Shiverpeak keys, as a guaranteed loss of 600g is better than a nearly guaranteed loss of 1250g. But the lack of gold is sickening too.

A real shame, as I was actually ENJOYING chest running.

Just wondering whether anyone else has experienced or noticed this?

I noticed the same effect on 55-farming once. After a few runs, there's no golds, nothing decent.

Any idea how I get my luck back to 'normal'?

Ugoff The Unholy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

That Irontoe run is brilliant, I just tried it. When you get to the part with non-hostile stone summits blocking entrance to Frolis, you can go around the one on the far right and solo him. Pretty much guaranteed a chest, an ale, and gold knuckles in a short period of time (whatever they sell for).

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugoff The Unholy
That Irontoe run is brilliant, I just tried it. When you get to the part with non-hostile stone summits blocking entrance to Frolis, you can go around the one on the far right and solo him. Pretty much guaranteed a chest, an ale, and gold knuckles in a short period of time (whatever they sell for).
Thanks, I had no Idea you could get past the body block! Once in a blue moon the locked chest spawns back there so no more wasted runs .

Lens

Lens

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Under a rock

Envoys From Above [soul]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqual
Now I see that A-Net has put some invisible anti-farm flag on my account, probably guessing that I am a bot, and I have no idea how to make it go away. This really sucks - A-Net is lying to you about retention rates. It can change whenever they feel like it.
Don't forget to put on your aluminum hat.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lens
Don't forget to put on your aluminum hat.
You obviously haven't run a lot of chests as I describe above.

I am telling you that I recorded the rates and they went from exactly 55%R/33%G to more like 30%R/10%G ... over hundreds of lockpicks. We are talking about statistically significant sample size... I have evidence.

So it's not superstition.

This is exactly why I kept a record.

dies like fish

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Winter Wonderland [brrr]

W/E

A statistically significant sample size is over 1500.

The Mountain

The Mountain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Realm of the GWAMMs

Teh Academy [PhD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dies like fish
A statistically significant sample size is over 1500.
Agreed.

I've run close to 7000 chests now, tracking stats for the middle 4000 (after I had my own experience of 'bad runs'). Some days (and weeks) seem bad. Some are great. Some are a mix. I've noticed drop rates and types vary more based on times I'm playing than on how long I've been continuously running in an area. And no, I haven't found that rates are 'better' during off-peak hours, at least not all the time. Some of my best runs have been on Saturday afternoons.

My 2 cents: if you think you're having a bit of consistent luck, then you should keep running until that luck stops.

miprat

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/Me

Is Chest Running usually something that you can make good money on from the chest drops vs cost of keys/lockpicks? Sorry if that is a dumb question I have just never done any kind of chest run

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Ive been running a bit in Raisu Palace NM with this build:
[card]Shadow Form[/card][card]Death's Charge[/card][card]Dark Escape[/card][card]Dash[/card][card]Storm Chaser[/card][card]Natural Stride[/card][card]Troll Unguent[/card][card]Feigned Neutrality[/card]


Ive really just been mapping the place out in my head, I know of some of the regular chest spawns (eg, next to Silent Onata etc) but does anyone have a map?

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by miprat
Is Chest Running usually something that you can make good money on from the chest drops vs cost of keys/lockpicks? Sorry if that is a dumb question I have just never done any kind of chest run
No not really. With elite tomes you usually break-even in Hm, but Normal drops aren't worth the picks.