Update - Thursday April 19, 2007

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Pray for the easy button next!

Nice update A-Net! Can't wait to try it!

Captain Arne Is PRO

Captain Arne Is PRO

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Loot now scales according to party size.


/wave to farming

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

" * Repeated map entry no longer reduces loot."

Wonder if they are going to clear out people that are flagged heavily?

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

OK, I just tried to flag heros/henchies away, no matter what you only get 1/8 of the drops.

This has pretty much taken the fun out of game, maybe it is too early to tell, but I enjoy soloing, and now I am being punished for it.

Sakura Haruno

Sakura Haruno

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Secret xD

Xen Of Heroes [XoO] The fabled XoO Alliance!

A/E

solo farming got nerfed just tested 2drops of all the stygian hungers

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Basically it looks like they levelled the playing feild and some die hard farmers will not be happy.. Me personally, I couldn't give a rats ... LOL

Once you get rid of the loot monster in your soul, you like the game a whole lot more

//RogueNine

//RogueNine

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Rogue Squadron

E/Me

i just flagged hench on a few runs.. looks like I got a normal amount of drops, whereas when I didnt bring them I got like 1 drop out of 20 mobs.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

How far did you flag them? I left them at the zone, maybe that is why I didn't get same amount of drops.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

just wondering:

can someone check if the chest/buried treasure Flag got reseted?

atm i have 27% to use a retain a lock pick..... hummm back to some CR and when you open the chest in Hard mode it does count towards it anyways.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Essentially, *If I understand it..* More people now have a chance of getting decent loot. This will not boost the bots, oh at first they may increase, but when no one buys the stuff from them on ebay etc, they will die off fast.

Hopefully this update shafts the bots and the ebayers royally.

//RogueNine

//RogueNine

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Rogue Squadron

E/Me

no it scales DOWN it would seem, if you try farming solo. And sk8tboarder I flagged them at the start too... I didnt do alot of runs though so maybe its sporadic =/

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

It does not boost anything, it was just changed so you still get the same amount of loot as if you were in a full party, so soloing hurts you, and being in a party is unaffected.

@//RogueNine - Maybe them dieing has something to do with it, I did a tusked howler run, I only got 1 drop per group.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Simple

If your a party of 1 or in a party of 8... you get the SAME drop rate for your character.
I honestly think the pt size when you load sets the rate no matter if you take your hero's away from you.

//RogueNine

//RogueNine

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Rogue Squadron

E/Me

Kinda strange that they would do this now... They have said many times in the past that they didnt want to get rid of farming. Kinda pointless to farm now.

Dallus

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NinjaSchooldotORG

E/

Well Just tried my usual farm places and lets see what happened. I got 2 drops. Farming is the only reason why I play this game now. I love making money . I don't like playing with other people and now that I can solo farm its just ...whats the point now?

What do you guys think?



sure I get the whole "teamwork" but We should not be forced to team to get loot.

Taurus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mexico

Go for the eyes [jizz]

W/Mo

im Not Worthy

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Good. That'll make it less profitable for botters to do their job and slow the amount of money going into the economy.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Quote:
Originally Posted by //RogueNine
Kinda strange that they would do this now... They have said many times in the past that they didnt want to get rid of farming. Kinda pointless to farm now.
I smell a petition in the mists. I'm positive when a bunch of people wake up tomorrow and try this out, at least 1/5 of them is going to be very angry one of their favorite hobbies in the game is nerfed: Soloing and Farming alone is a thing of the past my friends.

The updates cool though, I can't even beat northern wall....

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

same here...2 drops.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

LOL, I must be an idiot, I can't find where the hell the Hard mode thing for Factions is. I pwned Shiro in my sin...now let my Dervish eat souls!

Hiotoko

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Flag henchies off your map and you're set.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

i love to solo farm to but not for the money but for the challenge. before i use to do it for gold but now just for kicks.

not to be rude but give the other things in GW a try. I'm sure you'll find something.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

You sound a lot like my brother.

I'm thinking that ANET is implying that we MUST team to get anywhere. This update will make the poor sink lower until they start eBaying gold. And then eBay will run out of gold and... never mind, I'm rambling again.

Seriously, though. I think there's people saying that doing the flagging away thing with Heroes does not work... So this means the end of solo farming.

My brother said "Solo farming is fruitless, because all the fruits went to ANET." I don't exactly understand what he meant by that, though...

P.M. Grey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Central Ohio

The Wandering Shadows

N/R

This is rediculous. I put a lot of time and effort into creating my own personal farming builds. Its the ENTIRE fun of the game for me. I could deal with the occasional skill nerf or what have you, but this is just horrible. No matter how much effort i put into the game, I get less than a sixth of what I used to get.

What's the point of this? If ArenaNet wants to add new exciting things for mission players and title-hunters, that's great, but there's no need to ruin what already exists for those of us who play like I do, making specialized builds for effecting cash farming.

Lotrfish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

1337ville, California

Generic Name [Tag]

R/

Now without soloing how am I going to get greens for all my heroes. I've onyl got like 1/3rd of them equipped because I am lazy. I guess I waited too long. The rest of the updates are real nice, though. They just have to spoil one of the best updates ever with that.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Tsk tsk Anet.

People are gonna be pissed

the party scaling nerf idea posted by several people here was to UPSCALE and reward players in parties, not ruin the fun of soloers.

I understand though....Hardmode produces higher level loot and it needs to be not "farmable".

Maybe Hardmode should be not-farmable. and Normal mode is.....normal?

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

P.M.Grey....
*cough*

Since you do it for the fun....mind giving me some $$ *cough*

Reks

Reks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/P

Reading the update had me so excited until I read...

"Loot now scales according to party size"

...*sigh* Figures they put that one tiny little detail near the end in miscellaneous. Like adding on a "Oh btw guys we got rid of the point of solo farming!!!"

Oh well. Might as well just over look this and enjoy hard mode for what it's worth. The increased rewards should make up for it, I suppose.

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

someone from ANet please clarify the loot scaling. The explanation is too vague.

Awesome update beside the loot scaling. No more solo for green item if you cant get all the loot. If that is the case prepare to buy green at 80k+

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Solo Farming is not dead dudes

Take your henchies, But don't make them fight

Just leave them somewhere around the area, you still get your loot.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

Yet again, anet screws us over... gg anet. no more solo farming...

Samurai-JM

Samurai-JM

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Krimzon Odyssey [KO]

A/

Well expect to see green prices shoot up WTS Kephet's 100k+10!!

Andisa Kalorn

Andisa Kalorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[PMS]

Tried flagging my henchies away... I don't think my rate was quite 1/8 but it certainly was at least half of usual... and they take part of the gold too. This really sucks. Solo farming was one of my favourite things to do with a character once I completed all the goals I had for them in a campaign. Sure some people find it boring, but for me, and others, it was fun. It was particularly good to farm materials for armor, or collector's items or greens to equip heroes. Now equipping heroes will be even more annoying.

So much for my aim to get fow armor... I can only imagine what's going to happen to the price of ectos now.

ss1986v2

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

posted this in the other thread, C&P ftw...

farming isnt dead, just solo farming. although this is going to lead to inflation (i barely passed eco, think thats right). ecto price (as well as other things usually solo'd) will increase, while income from player to player will stay around the same. increase in prices while income stays the same; thats inflation, right?

not going to freak out just yet. will wait for the other shoe to drop before passing judgment. economy is going to be fun to watch. maybe the influx of gems will curtail the rise in ecto prices. if not, good thing ive been stockpiling ectos...

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
Wait for prices to skyrocket and you be there complaining to.


Oh and by the way im buying all ectos while the prices are below 10k. Soon they are gonna hit 20k

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

There complaining because once you've reached your goals and you DO NOT LIKE pvping Farming was all they had, now they can't do it.

Im not a farmer, im a poor Hobo so Im not affected much.
Although if you like economy so much go play Goonzu ONline its Based off buying and selling stuff and farming, its really a farmers game.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
Many people enjoy soloing, it is the equivalent of ANET adding HB, but taking away HA. They implemented it in a really bad way, they should have given better rewards for those in groups, not hurt those who like to play alone.

Here is an example of why it is so bad:

This was with a full group, I got similar results when I did this solo.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiotoko
Flag henchies off your map and you're set.
Incorrect sir.

No matter what, dead or flagged off, they will take a share of your loot. To clarify: In an 8 man zone you will only ever get 1/8th of the loot, regardless of any other factor.

Kali Magdalene

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
Apparently, quite a few people care about solo farming. Obvious question much?