Update - Thursday April 19, 2007
Sir Skullcrasher
Pray for the easy button next!
Nice update A-Net! Can't wait to try it!
Nice update A-Net! Can't wait to try it!
Captain Arne Is PRO
Loot now scales according to party size.
/wave to farming
/wave to farming
Enchanted Warrior
" * Repeated map entry no longer reduces loot."
Wonder if they are going to clear out people that are flagged heavily?
Wonder if they are going to clear out people that are flagged heavily?
Sk8tborderx
OK, I just tried to flag heros/henchies away, no matter what you only get 1/8 of the drops.
This has pretty much taken the fun out of game, maybe it is too early to tell, but I enjoy soloing, and now I am being punished for it.
This has pretty much taken the fun out of game, maybe it is too early to tell, but I enjoy soloing, and now I am being punished for it.
Sakura Haruno
solo farming got nerfed just tested 2drops of all the stygian hungers
Enchanted Warrior
Basically it looks like they levelled the playing feild and some die hard farmers will not be happy.. Me personally, I couldn't give a rats ... LOL
Once you get rid of the loot monster in your soul, you like the game a whole lot more
Once you get rid of the loot monster in your soul, you like the game a whole lot more
//RogueNine
i just flagged hench on a few runs.. looks like I got a normal amount of drops, whereas when I didnt bring them I got like 1 drop out of 20 mobs.
Sk8tborderx
How far did you flag them? I left them at the zone, maybe that is why I didn't get same amount of drops.
chessyang
just wondering:
can someone check if the chest/buried treasure Flag got reseted?
atm i have 27% to use a retain a lock pick..... hummm back to some CR and when you open the chest in Hard mode it does count towards it anyways.
can someone check if the chest/buried treasure Flag got reseted?
atm i have 27% to use a retain a lock pick..... hummm back to some CR and when you open the chest in Hard mode it does count towards it anyways.
Enchanted Warrior
Essentially, *If I understand it..* More people now have a chance of getting decent loot. This will not boost the bots, oh at first they may increase, but when no one buys the stuff from them on ebay etc, they will die off fast.
Hopefully this update shafts the bots and the ebayers royally.
Hopefully this update shafts the bots and the ebayers royally.
//RogueNine
no it scales DOWN it would seem, if you try farming solo. And sk8tboarder I flagged them at the start too... I didnt do alot of runs though so maybe its sporadic =/
Sk8tborderx
It does not boost anything, it was just changed so you still get the same amount of loot as if you were in a full party, so soloing hurts you, and being in a party is unaffected.
@//RogueNine - Maybe them dieing has something to do with it, I did a tusked howler run, I only got 1 drop per group.
@//RogueNine - Maybe them dieing has something to do with it, I did a tusked howler run, I only got 1 drop per group.
EternalTempest
Simple
If your a party of 1 or in a party of 8... you get the SAME drop rate for your character.
I honestly think the pt size when you load sets the rate no matter if you take your hero's away from you.
If your a party of 1 or in a party of 8... you get the SAME drop rate for your character.
I honestly think the pt size when you load sets the rate no matter if you take your hero's away from you.
//RogueNine
Kinda strange that they would do this now... They have said many times in the past that they didnt want to get rid of farming. Kinda pointless to farm now.
Dallus
Well Just tried my usual farm places and lets see what happened. I got 2 drops. Farming is the only reason why I play this game now. I love making money . I don't like playing with other people and now that I can solo farm its just ...whats the point now?
What do you guys think?
sure I get the whole "teamwork" but We should not be forced to team to get loot.
What do you guys think?
sure I get the whole "teamwork" but We should not be forced to team to get loot.
Taurus
im Not Worthy
Winterclaw
Good. That'll make it less profitable for botters to do their job and slow the amount of money going into the economy.
Silly Warrior
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Originally Posted by //RogueNine
Kinda strange that they would do this now... They have said many times in the past that they didnt want to get rid of farming. Kinda pointless to farm now.
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The updates cool though, I can't even beat northern wall....
The Great Al
same here...2 drops.
ensoriki
LOL, I must be an idiot, I can't find where the hell the Hard mode thing for Factions is. I pwned Shiro in my sin...now let my Dervish eat souls!
Hiotoko
Flag henchies off your map and you're set.
chessyang
i love to solo farm to but not for the money but for the challenge. before i use to do it for gold but now just for kicks.
not to be rude but give the other things in GW a try. I'm sure you'll find something.
not to be rude but give the other things in GW a try. I'm sure you'll find something.
Taurucis
You sound a lot like my brother.
I'm thinking that ANET is implying that we MUST team to get anywhere. This update will make the poor sink lower until they start eBaying gold. And then eBay will run out of gold and... never mind, I'm rambling again.
Seriously, though. I think there's people saying that doing the flagging away thing with Heroes does not work... So this means the end of solo farming.
My brother said "Solo farming is fruitless, because all the fruits went to ANET." I don't exactly understand what he meant by that, though...
I'm thinking that ANET is implying that we MUST team to get anywhere. This update will make the poor sink lower until they start eBaying gold. And then eBay will run out of gold and... never mind, I'm rambling again.
Seriously, though. I think there's people saying that doing the flagging away thing with Heroes does not work... So this means the end of solo farming.
My brother said "Solo farming is fruitless, because all the fruits went to ANET." I don't exactly understand what he meant by that, though...
P.M. Grey
This is rediculous. I put a lot of time and effort into creating my own personal farming builds. Its the ENTIRE fun of the game for me. I could deal with the occasional skill nerf or what have you, but this is just horrible. No matter how much effort i put into the game, I get less than a sixth of what I used to get.
What's the point of this? If ArenaNet wants to add new exciting things for mission players and title-hunters, that's great, but there's no need to ruin what already exists for those of us who play like I do, making specialized builds for effecting cash farming.
What's the point of this? If ArenaNet wants to add new exciting things for mission players and title-hunters, that's great, but there's no need to ruin what already exists for those of us who play like I do, making specialized builds for effecting cash farming.
Lotrfish
Now without soloing how am I going to get greens for all my heroes. I've onyl got like 1/3rd of them equipped because I am lazy. I guess I waited too long. The rest of the updates are real nice, though. They just have to spoil one of the best updates ever with that.
lyra_song
Tsk tsk Anet.
People are gonna be pissed
the party scaling nerf idea posted by several people here was to UPSCALE and reward players in parties, not ruin the fun of soloers.
I understand though....Hardmode produces higher level loot and it needs to be not "farmable".
Maybe Hardmode should be not-farmable. and Normal mode is.....normal?
People are gonna be pissed
the party scaling nerf idea posted by several people here was to UPSCALE and reward players in parties, not ruin the fun of soloers.
I understand though....Hardmode produces higher level loot and it needs to be not "farmable".
Maybe Hardmode should be not-farmable. and Normal mode is.....normal?
ensoriki
P.M.Grey....
*cough*
Since you do it for the fun....mind giving me some $$ *cough*
*cough*
Since you do it for the fun....mind giving me some $$ *cough*
Reks
Reading the update had me so excited until I read...
"Loot now scales according to party size"
...*sigh* Figures they put that one tiny little detail near the end in miscellaneous. Like adding on a "Oh btw guys we got rid of the point of solo farming!!!"
Oh well. Might as well just over look this and enjoy hard mode for what it's worth. The increased rewards should make up for it, I suppose.
"Loot now scales according to party size"
...*sigh* Figures they put that one tiny little detail near the end in miscellaneous. Like adding on a "Oh btw guys we got rid of the point of solo farming!!!"
Oh well. Might as well just over look this and enjoy hard mode for what it's worth. The increased rewards should make up for it, I suppose.
sumasage
someone from ANet please clarify the loot scaling. The explanation is too vague.
Awesome update beside the loot scaling. No more solo for green item if you cant get all the loot. If that is the case prepare to buy green at 80k+
Awesome update beside the loot scaling. No more solo for green item if you cant get all the loot. If that is the case prepare to buy green at 80k+
ensoriki
Solo Farming is not dead dudes
Take your henchies, But don't make them fight
Just leave them somewhere around the area, you still get your loot.
Take your henchies, But don't make them fight
Just leave them somewhere around the area, you still get your loot.
Mesmer in Need
Yet again, anet screws us over... gg anet. no more solo farming...
Samurai-JM
Well expect to see green prices shoot up WTS Kephet's 100k+10!!
Andisa Kalorn
Tried flagging my henchies away... I don't think my rate was quite 1/8 but it certainly was at least half of usual... and they take part of the gold too. This really sucks. Solo farming was one of my favourite things to do with a character once I completed all the goals I had for them in a campaign. Sure some people find it boring, but for me, and others, it was fun. It was particularly good to farm materials for armor, or collector's items or greens to equip heroes. Now equipping heroes will be even more annoying.
So much for my aim to get fow armor... I can only imagine what's going to happen to the price of ectos now.
So much for my aim to get fow armor... I can only imagine what's going to happen to the price of ectos now.
ss1986v2
posted this in the other thread, C&P ftw...
farming isnt dead, just solo farming. although this is going to lead to inflation (i barely passed eco, think thats right). ecto price (as well as other things usually solo'd) will increase, while income from player to player will stay around the same. increase in prices while income stays the same; thats inflation, right?
not going to freak out just yet. will wait for the other shoe to drop before passing judgment. economy is going to be fun to watch. maybe the influx of gems will curtail the rise in ecto prices. if not, good thing ive been stockpiling ectos...
farming isnt dead, just solo farming. although this is going to lead to inflation (i barely passed eco, think thats right). ecto price (as well as other things usually solo'd) will increase, while income from player to player will stay around the same. increase in prices while income stays the same; thats inflation, right?
not going to freak out just yet. will wait for the other shoe to drop before passing judgment. economy is going to be fun to watch. maybe the influx of gems will curtail the rise in ecto prices. if not, good thing ive been stockpiling ectos...
The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
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Oh and by the way im buying all ectos while the prices are below 10k. Soon they are gonna hit 20k
ensoriki
There complaining because once you've reached your goals and you DO NOT LIKE pvping Farming was all they had, now they can't do it.
Im not a farmer, im a poor Hobo so Im not affected much.
Although if you like economy so much go play Goonzu ONline its Based off buying and selling stuff and farming, its really a farmers game.
Im not a farmer, im a poor Hobo so Im not affected much.
Although if you like economy so much go play Goonzu ONline its Based off buying and selling stuff and farming, its really a farmers game.
Sk8tborderx
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Originally Posted by The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
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Here is an example of why it is so bad:
This was with a full group, I got similar results when I did this solo.
JR
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Originally Posted by Hiotoko
Flag henchies off your map and you're set.
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No matter what, dead or flagged off, they will take a share of your loot. To clarify: In an 8 man zone you will only ever get 1/8th of the loot, regardless of any other factor.
Kali Magdalene
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Originally Posted by The Ernada
Who cares about nerfed solo farming? They introduce a new mode and solo farming is the complaint? Sheesh.
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