Colossal Scimitar...same fate as Dead Sword?

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

*cough* Everlasting Beetle Tonic

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chestnut
LOL, Don't you people get it? The only RARE items in the game now.. are the minis and stuff that A.net gives to Japan! I mean, the items that are rare.. and hard to get.. are items you gotta pay 400+ ectos to get.. and they dont drop anywhere.. they are given to Japan And China.... The one exception is the roller beetle, which is now over 750 ectos. wanna make money in GW? Trade REAL rare items.. that are impossible for 98.7% of the population of GW to get.

Can your avrage joe affored a roller beetle? no.. it takes someone who has buckets of ectos..... Also same with mini ghostly hero... avrage joe can't get it because it drops in the hall of heros only.. and the drop rate is pretty low.. if you want to get rare items, its gotta be something a.net GIVES to people.. not something that drops.
That is true, rare mini-pets that never drops is worth alot of money!!

Foe

Foe

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

I think we should be able roll a pve toon and equip them with anything in the game much like you would in pvp creation. Infact lets do away with ig drops, armours, and money all together. Log on create character give him fow armour and your weapon of choice and its mission time(remember thats all there is)....

Pre-SF pve was 100% tits. Imagine an era when 99.99% of drops didnt go to the merch. Every Gold drop if u were willing to part with it could be easily sold. Even Purples w/ decent stats had value. MODS! are u kidding me! 100k+ for +30hp, 10/10 ap? hot! Theres a few more ecto towards your gear of choice/lust. Ready for fow/uw? bam shard, bam ecto, woops req 11 13%ench fellblade?? 60k! Things had value and players made money with out having to farm some stupid boss repeatedly(or whatever).Of course items will depreciate in value over time but this largley is a VERY slow process. Through out the games history items dont suddenly hit the basement until anet does something awful like greens, inscriptions, 3x loot etc.. 100k max trade limit and ecto as the alternative provided a massive bulwark vs inflation via bots(not going to explain). Inflation is only relavent to the ig vendors anyway (keys,armour,dye etc). As far as weapons are concerned it doesnt matter if everyplayer in the game had 999k dropped into storage. There's only so many of a given item ig at one time and the amount of relative purchasing power required to obtain it at that moment is constant regardless of the literal amount paid. I bring this up because "newbs and bots" has been anets given reason for every step in our race to communism starting w/ the sf update. I gave up on pve some time ago but i thinks its a shame the newer players experience resembles Barbie Picks Out Her Outfit 2 as it was pve was once very rewarding and.....whats that word..fun.

*A note on GW "supply and demand" unlike the real world supply is often the key and somecases the only driving force behind an items demand....increased supply across the board just means more ppl quitting pve and moving to pvp....hmm i wonder..

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Bought req 12 Colossal Scimitar with 15^50 and perfect mods for 50K... shame, for all them suckaz that bought it while it was 100+50e

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Bought req 12 Colossal Scimitar with 15^50 and perfect mods for 50K... shame, for all them suckaz that bought it while it was 100+50e
Yes, because everyone who bought them knew that they would drop loads thanks to hard mode....

I fail to see how anyone is a "sucka" due to something which was unexpected.

Its like calling anyone who owned 10/10 staffs "suckaz" due to a totally unexpected change.

I suppose using your reasoning that chances are you are a "sucka" as most people have owned either a x% Recharge staff, old Sundering mod, old while hexed shield, old while in stance shield, old +x al shield etc. Unless of course you are new to Guild Wars.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

I think hes reffering to "suckaz" in a different context than you assumed.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I suppose using your reasoning that chances are you are a "sucka" as most people have owned either a x% Recharge staff, old Sundering mod, old while hexed shield, old while in stance shield, old +x al shield etc. Unless of course you are new to Guild Wars.
you mean before the absorption change (or nerf, depending on view point)? when dual dmg reduce shields were actually useful?

man i loved my -3/-2stance

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
I think hes reffering to "suckaz" in a different context than you assumed.
Correct. When i said suckaz, i meant all that people that payed so much money for weapon thinking they are elite... Yeah, some of them bought it just for looks, but let's face it, 90% of owners of Colossal that boughted while it was 100k + 100 ecto will now be angry because every player can afford something that was making them elite till release of hard mode and mass farmage of CS.
Now, if you'll excuse me, i need to go kill some mobs with my perfect cheap Colossal

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Correct. When i said suckaz, i meant all that people that payed so much money for weapon thinking they are elite... Yeah, some of them bought it just for looks, but let's face it, 90% of owners of Colossal that boughted while it was 100k + 100 ecto will now be angry because every player can afford something that was making them elite till release of hard mode and mass farmage of CS.
Now, if you'll excuse me, i need to go kill some mobs with my perfect cheap Colossal

Lol you payed 50K for a req 12?

Even req 9's can be obtained cheaper. Soon Colossals will be worth 300 gold at merch, when you're lucky, but nothing more.

Who's the 'sucka' now? ;P

And btw, most people don't buy weapons to be 'elite'. They want these weapons for the challenge. You also call your parents suckers when they buy a new car that is worth less the next year?

I didn't buy a Colossal yet, but I am very mad because A-Net has - again - removed one of my goals in the game (they screwed up the 15^50 dwarven weapons/crystalliens as well with inscriptions).

Let's face it, Guild Wars needs such weapons and items in order to keep people interested. But there is no reason to call anyone a sucker just because he was willing to buy a weapon with great rarity

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

I don't think Colossals will drop down to Dead Sword prices - Dead Swords are an order of magnitude faster to farm - but they're going to continue to drop in price, to be sure. I'd be surprised if req 9 ones got down to 50k, but that's pretty damn affordable especially considering what they used to run you.

Peace,
-CxE

MetalMan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Some Guild.

W/Mo

I can't farm, and i'm skint.

I lose either way, so it doesn't really concern me as much as if i did have money to throw around...

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Bought req 12 Colossal Scimitar with 15^50 and perfect mods for 50K... shame, for all them suckaz that bought it while it was 100+50e
Gratz.
My mate bought a req9 unmodded for 50k yesterday. Why do ppl mod high req-s to perfect? Because someone will buy them at a high price.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by reetkever
Lol you payed 50K for a req 12?

Even req 9's can be obtained cheaper. Soon Colossals will be worth 300 gold at merch, when you're lucky, but nothing more.

Who's the 'sucka' now? ;P
Not me... I said i payed 50K for req 12 with perfect mods (20/20 and +30) In case you dont know, let me remind you - only the mods are worth 25K each, so i got a sword for free.

Quote:
Originally Posted by reetkever
Let's face it, Guild Wars needs such weapons and items in order to keep people interested. But there is no reason to call anyone a sucker just because he was willing to buy a weapon with great rarity
No, you are wrong. Guild Wars doesnt need rare skin weapons to keep people intrested. It is a great game with lots of quality, and if your only intrest in game is to chase the expenssive/rare items, then go play WoW in which the only point is to have better equipement. GW isnt like that. And whoever buys an item with 100K+100 ecto price, and doesnt like its skin, it means he bought it only so he can boss around and think he is somehow better then others. Same as that stupid rank in PvP, only for noobs who think their high end weapons and rank can guarantee their success

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Serpent axes are farmable, and soon I'll figure out how to do Dwarvens. >.>

I <3 Hard Mode.

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

considering that dwarvens are a pvp reward, i guess it's kinda hard to take advantage of HM to develop some kind of farming for them

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
considering that dwarvens are a pvp reward, i guess it's kinda hard to take advantage of HM to develop some kind of farming for them
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dwarven_Axe

Try knowing what you're talking about?

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
No, you are wrong. Guild Wars doesnt need rare skin weapons to keep people intrested. It is a great game with lots of quality, and if your only intrest in game is to chase the expenssive/rare items, then go play WoW in which the only point is to have better equipement. GW isnt like that. And whoever buys an item with 100K+100 ecto price, and doesnt like its skin, it means he bought it only so he can boss around and think he is somehow better then others. Same as that stupid rank in PvP, only for noobs who think their high end weapons and rank can guarantee their success
dude chill out and let us have fun in the game we too paid for, in the way we decide to be best. I'm very sorry that you have trouble getting ingame gold, or lack the common sense need to farm the rarer skins (ofc, the farmable ones i mean), feel discriminated for low rank or w/e, but I dont really think we can help you...

and yes, i do believe games like this need VARIETY just as you said it yourself. and yes, that includes a variety of skins/items, and variety of those would also mean different grades of rarity of obtainable items (does that even make sense ^_^ soz, kinda late).

and stop pointing out how good a deal you had please.. i bet some of the people that posted in this thread have made quite a bit better ones.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dwarven_Axe

Try knowing what you're talking about?
omg hes embarrassed now...
if you havent noticed, theres a big difference between gold an purple dwarven value-wise
and i bet you havent even had a decent serpent axe drop from your "place" yet.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
I don't think Colossals will drop down to Dead Sword prices - Dead Swords are an order of magnitude faster to farm - but they're going to continue to drop in price, to be sure. I'd be surprised if req 9 ones got down to 50k, but that's pretty damn affordable especially considering what they used to run you.
Probably your right, but i'm seeing req.9 dead swords go for 30k right now. It'll take a while, but it might happen one day.


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Let's face it, Guild Wars needs such weapons and items in order to keep people interested. But there is no reason to call anyone a sucker just because he was willing to buy a weapon with great rarity
This is correct.

Quote:
No, you are wrong. Guild Wars doesnt need rare skin weapons to keep people intrested. It is a great game with lots of quality, and if your only intrest in game is to chase the expenssive/rare items, then go play WoW in which the only point is to have better equipement. GW isnt like that. And whoever buys an item with 100K+100 ecto price, and doesnt like its skin, it means he bought it only so he can boss around and think he is somehow better then others. Same as that stupid rank in PvP, only for noobs who think their high end weapons and rank can guarantee their success
From PvE perspective, I strongly disagree with this. With a view like this, it seems like you haven't really experienced this game fully, or mmo's for that matter.

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Originally Posted by
KamikazeChicken
Serpent axes are farmable,
Care to share where?

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by fb2000
I'm very sorry that you have trouble getting ingame gold, or lack the common sense need to farm the rarer skins (ofc, the farmable ones i mean), feel discriminated for low rank or w/e, but I dont really think we can help you...
Who said i have trouble getting gold? And i dont even need to farm rare skins, if i do want one i will simply purchase it. But thing is, i dont like rare skins because most of them are just rare, but not good looking... Take Crystalline sword for example... it is rare, it is expenssive, and it is so damn UGLY! I wouldnt use it even if i get a perfect one for free. Same as Serpent axe, it is rare but Kanaxai, Chaos, and so many other ones simply look better... So why should i give so much money for it? Neither it looks better or has better stats... Oh yeah, i forgot - STATUS... The reason why ppl buy rare and expnessive items... So they can feel better when they enter mission/explorable and then team-mates start asking what weapon is that. How about you prove yourself with good play, and not with ecto stacks and million worth items?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
From PvE perspective, I strongly disagree with this. With a view like this, it seems like you haven't really experienced this game fully, or mmo's for that matter.
Oh yeah? And what makes you think so? Just because i dont have a need to posess high value items like 90% others, doesn't mean i don't enjoy the game and understand it. Sure, i have some stuff that isn't cheap, like two sets of 15K armor, some nice weapons and so on, but EVERYTHING i bought was only because i loved the looks. What i don't understand is why people so desperately need expenssive items and then whine when prices drop on something they payed so much for...

Mourne

Mourne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

North Carolina, US

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Oh yeah? And what makes you think so? Just because i dont have a need to posess high value items like 90% others, doesn't mean i don't enjoy the game and understand it. Sure, i have some stuff that isn't cheap, like two sets of 15K armor, some nice weapons and so on, but EVERYTHING i bought was only because i loved the looks. What i don't understand is why people so desperately need expenssive items and then whine when prices drop on something they payed so much for...
Rare skins give people something to work for. Without them, *MOST* of the pve community would feel they have nothing to work for besides titles...and everyone knows how fun titles are.
I personally love the rare skins, for thier looks and because of thier accessibility. I own about 10+ weapons all worth atleast 100k+15 (yes I know this is very low compared to some people) and I am very happy with every single one of them. I wouldn't trade my rq. 9 Sephis Axe for anything, or the rq. 9 Dual Gothic I have. I worked hard to save up for the weapons, I do feel a sense of accomplishment when buying new weapons.

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Oranos
So let me get this straight... a person that does not have the time to get "rare" skins that dont actually affect the game deserve them as much as someone who was willing to work for them?

Wtf?
everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.

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Originally Posted by Westofeden
I'm so sick of hearing this. /cry I can't farm ecto because I'm to lazy to cap VwK and pay 4k for a totem axe. Its not hard to make the W/Rt build and its even easier to use it and it only takes about 20-25 mins a run. If you can't do that then go farm greens or anything else. There are millions of ways to make a profit in this game.
Don't tell people how to play this game, some people have better things to do then take 20-25 mins to get 1 or 2 ectos.

big papi

big papi

Town Dweller

Join Date: Dec 2005

on the LOST island

[SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Who said i have trouble getting gold? And i dont even need to farm rare skins, if i do want one i will simply purchase it. But thing is, i dont like rare skins because most of them are just rare, but not good looking... Take Crystalline sword for example... it is rare, it is expenssive, and it is so damn UGLY! I wouldnt use it even if i get a perfect one for free. Same as Serpent axe, it is rare but Kanaxai, Chaos, and so many other ones simply look better... So why should i give so much money for it? Neither it looks better or has better stats... Oh yeah, i forgot - STATUS... The reason why ppl buy rare and expnessive items... So they can feel better when they enter mission/explorable and then team-mates start asking what weapon is that. How about you prove yourself with good play, and not with ecto stacks and million worth items?
sorry but most people who collect rare/expensive items just bury them in storage without every flaunting or ever really using them.....there is a bunch of different ways to plays guild wars and for some collecting rare/expensive items is there thing so there is no need to flame them

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fb2000
dude chill out and let us have fun in the game we too paid for, in the way we decide to be best. I'm very sorry that you have trouble getting ingame gold, or lack the common sense need to farm the rarer skins (ofc, the farmable ones i mean), feel discriminated for low rank or w/e, but I dont really think we can help you...

and yes, i do believe games like this need VARIETY just as you said it yourself. and yes, that includes a variety of skins/items, and variety of those would also mean different grades of rarity of obtainable items (does that even make sense ^_^ soz, kinda late).

and stop pointing out how good a deal you had please.. i bet some of the people that posted in this thread have made quite a bit better ones.
if someone lacks the common sense of spending all his free time on the computer to go to the same map and kill the same mobs over and over again until he gets a certain item... GOD HELP YOU!

Anet is trying its best to nerf solo farm and spread more 8 man party playing. You fall into the group Anet is trying to get rid off, shoo shoo.

ctbear

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.
oh yeah everyone paid for the game then why someone has the phoenix emote and im stuck with that stupid deer?
Please fix your point.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.



Don't tell people how to play this game, some people have better things to do then take 20-25 mins to get 1 or 2 ectos.
I am so sick of this attitude - I saw it when I was teaching at a private university. Kids who basically think, "I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so you'd better give me an A" - as though the price of admission somehow included a spotless transcript. Or covering their asses when they decide to get drunk instead of study and fail exams.

Guess what? You can pay to play, not to win. For better or for worse.

Oofus

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

Haven't we seen this thread like a thousand times before already?

Seriously, some of you people who just want FoW armor and perfect Crystalines, on a rank 12 character the minute you create it, that can finish a mission just by clicking on the “Enter Mission” button should really just consider moving yourselves over to something like NeoPets. My daughter used to love that game when she was 10 and it required no skill and little effort. Seems perfect for what many of you people want. So much anger and hatred coming from a lot of you “I want a free Dwarven Axe” crowd members. Sad realy.

/waits for mods to close yet another “haves/have-nots” thread.

Axe Addict

Axe Addict

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Down Under to the right

TOG

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oofus
Haven't we seen this thread like a thousand times before already?

Seriously, some of you people who just want FoW armor and perfect Crystalines, on a rank 12 character the minute you create it, that can finish a mission just by clicking on the “Enter Mission” button should really just consider moving yourselves over to something like NeoPets. My daughter used to love that game when she was 10 and it required no skill and little effort. Seems perfect for what many of you people want. So much anger and hatred coming from a lot of you “I want a free Dwarven Axe” crowd members. Sad realy.

/waits for mods to close yet another “haves/have-nots” thread.
Bravo Bravo well said

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Personette
I am so sick of this attitude - I saw it when I was teaching at a private university. Kids who basically think, "I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so you'd better give me an A" - as though the price of admission somehow included a spotless transcript. Or covering their asses when they decide to get drunk instead of study and fail exams.

Guess what? You can pay to play, not to win. For better or for worse.
I love this post.

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dwarven_Axe

Try knowing what you're talking about?
"Dwarven Axes are a random drop. They are extremely rare (probably the second rarest item in the game after Crystalline Swords) and are only found in high-level areas, such as Sorrow's Furnace, The Fissure of Woe, and the chest in the Hall of Heroes."

the above means:
hoh - reward chest. gold. pvp item
sf and fow (and even uw btw) - quest reward chests (rastigan, forgemaster etc..) purple.

so, if u think HM will increase your chances to drop tasty purple dwarven axes off killroy chests, go for it, that's the only way u can "farm" these axes, and pretty much everyone stopped doing it months ago as the value sank already

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Personette
I am so sick of this attitude - I saw it when I was teaching at a private university. Kids who basically think, "I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so you'd better give me an A" - as though the price of admission somehow included a spotless transcript. Or covering their asses when they decide to get drunk instead of study and fail exams.

Guess what? You can pay to play, not to win. For better or for worse.
I didn't say to hand me over an A, what's the merit in that? Its when someone says that he or she deserves something more then others, that's just not true.

You know what this attitude is? It's socialism, not everyone shares YOUR capitalist ideals, why do you think there is so much shit in our societey, why do you think there was a Great Depression (this might be too far).

For you sir, the rich get richer and the poor have none, don't give up your day job.

I can pay to play, but I don't want other players how to play.

I also despise your attitude.

PS: You're a teacher, at a private University - go to a public institution, you might find real hard working people.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Sujoy, why do you keep whining about this stuff, personally attacking persons on their comments, and telling ppl not to say how others should play the game, but dictating ur own rules on them yourself?

All what you are saying comes down to this:
-Because we all paid for this game, we should get 'rare skin' drops everywhere. Not only the people that spend 3 hrs+ getting either the money for it or farming it themselves.
Well first of all, all GW-players have a FREE CHOICE. Wether it is they want to spend their time to farm, or actually play the game is all up to themselves. If they want to show off with rare skins, they need to work for it. You do not get a free A+ for buying a game. Besides if rare skins drop everywhere, they wouldnt be rare anymore, would they?

Westofeden wasnt telling people how to play the game, he said that if they really want a lot of money that badly, there are countless methods of acquiring money fast. If they rather play the game, do missions and stuff, then actually spend some time per day getting money, why do they bother with money at all? A collectors weapon and 7.5k worth of money should be enough to get through a campaign. Maybe some more money for skills and runes. 7.5k! 7500g! If you actually play (play and NOT farm) in Hard Mode and with full team, you actually get half of that amount already in 1 hour. For just playing the game! So money isnt needed for GW, and all people that are complaining they do not have the time to spend on farming, but do want the high-prized items, need to get their priorities straight. Besides if high-prized items were cheap, they wouldnt be high-prized would they?

I expect some personal insults back adressed to me. Please do, it shows character.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Since i dont have time or patience to enter argues like this one, i will only say this: it is sad that 90% players only worries about how much wealth they have, while there is SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game. Sure, you payed it, and no one has a right to tell you how to play the game, but one day you will wake up, start your PC, enter the game, and realize that there it isnt anything left to do. You'll have full storage of ectos, all rarest pets and weapons and no idea what to do next. And then you will see that it would be better that you enjoyed the game all that time, talked to your friends and help new players, instead of mindless farming all the time. Cheers

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
I didn't say to hand me over an A, what's the merit in that? Its when someone says that he or she deserves something more then others, that's just not true.

You know what this attitude is? It's socialism, not everyone shares YOUR capitalist ideals, why do you think there is so much shit in our societey, why do you think there was a Great Depression (this might be too far).

For you sir, the rich get richer and the poor have none, don't give up your day job.

I can pay to play, but I don't want other players how to play.

I also despise your attitude.

PS: You're a teacher, at a private University - go to a public institution, you might find real hard working people.
I personally am very much in favor of capitalism well-tempered by socialism - but the socialist systems that I know and admire don't aim at eliminating the gap between rich and poor, just assuring the poor a fundamentally humane quality of life. Not mass distribution of luxury goods. To make the GW analogy - making sure everybody can have max armor and max weapons, not rare skins or 15k armor.

It's a little obscene to make an appeal to the poor when what you're asking for are unnecessary perks.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

It's an inevitable fact that weapons which are constantly farmed will eventually become available to all.
Honestly it's a game so many people are so focused on having a unique character when in truth for every one person like that there are 10 others with the same type of armor and weapons.
If like me your a casual player you can't afford the time to play constantly. And what little time I have I prefer to spend playing. Thus, the only option when it comes to nice looking weapons is to simply wait until availability becomes more wide spread. It's then that I buy the weapons I desire.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Since i dont have time or patience to enter argues like this one, i will only say this: it is sad that 90% players only worries about how much wealth they have, while there is SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game. Sure, you payed it, and no one has a right to tell you how to play the game, but one day you will wake up, start your PC, enter the game, and realize that there it isnt anything left to do. You'll have full storage of ectos, all rarest pets and weapons and no idea what to do next. And then you will see that it would be better that you enjoyed the game all that time, talked to your friends and help new players, instead of mindless farming all the time. Cheers
Totally agree with you on this.

You only need around 10k (1.5k armor, runes and skills) per character to actually get it to full strength to beat the hardest opponent.
Suppose you farm non-stop, you wont enjoy the game very much. Some day you wake up, and realize you have been playing a MMORPG (Mass Multiplayer Online RPG, some disagree to call GW this, but read ahead) alone. You realize there are no friends left to boast to and only random unfamiliar faces, since they all fled from your farming behaviour. Only people to talk to are others, like-minded farmers, who have exactly the same titles to boast about and rare stuff to show.

I myself farm from time to time. It is not really for the money, since I already enmassed great quantities of rare items in my adventures. Mostly it is just for exploring the limits of skills and character.

Chris Blackstar

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

United States

First, Ha-Ha to the OP, as Nelson would say.

Second, who cares. I would never sell or buy a weapon for a 100K + ectos, ever. No matter how rare the skin, I would just ask were they fouind it and either farm it myself or go for a chest run search and hope for the best.

As for poor players, a lot of them bought their gold from e-bay, and the rest farmed it or earned by selling it to suckers who bought their gold from e-bay. Don't blame the farmers, blame the cheaters/a-holes who got away with selling gold on e-bay and the traders/players who took advantage of this cheat. There the reason we see items selling for 100K+ectos.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Since i dont have time or patience to enter argues like this one, i will only say this: it is sad that 90% players only worries about how much wealth they have, while there is SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game. Sure, you payed it, and no one has a right to tell you how to play the game, but one day you will wake up, start your PC, enter the game, and realize that there it isnt anything left to do. You'll have full storage of ectos, all rarest pets and weapons and no idea what to do next. And then you will see that it would be better that you enjoyed the game all that time, talked to your friends and help new players, instead of mindless farming all the time. Cheers
what makes u think people like me spend most of their time on gw "farming"? well i cant say for everyone, but I have done pretty much everything I could think of in gw... beaten pve multiple times, done pvp, won halls, won some gvgs.. been there done that, Im not interested in it anymore. so i get flamed for actually having done everything you find "SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game", and for trying to keep my attention to gw?

and for the record, im sure as hell not rich, am just trying to find myself some stuff to do. atm, its getting rare skined items..

PS. i just thought about it, i dont really think people that actually collect stuff flash them to the party like you think... that is done by newbies tbh.. i only ping it if i have some friends with me, becoz most of them know what im after, and its like an achievement to finally have found it.. dont see anything back in that

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Originally Posted by Sujoy
if someone lacks the common sense of spending all his free time on the computer to go to the same map and kill the same mobs over and over again until he gets a certain item... GOD HELP YOU!

Anet is trying its best to nerf solo farm and spread more 8 man party playing. You fall into the group Anet is trying to get rid off, shoo shoo.
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Originally Posted by Sujoy
everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.
Don't tell people how to play this game, some people have better things to do then take 20-25 mins to get 1 or 2 ectos.
think before u post dude.. Id hide myself if i was you..

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
if someone lacks the common sense of spending all his free time on the computer to go to the same map and kill the same mobs over and over again until he gets a certain item... GOD HELP YOU!

Anet is trying its best to nerf solo farm and spread more 8 man party playing. You fall into the group Anet is trying to get rid off, shoo shoo.
Don't you tell me how to play mah game, boi!

Wait, didn't you...

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Originally Posted by Sujoy
Don't tell people how to play this game
...Hm.

AnnaCloud9

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

Well I can't help but add my 2 cents worth before this closes

After one acquires said 'rare' skinned weapon, does one spend the remainder of her/his GW life trying to prove how said 'rare' weapon was actually acquired?

Honestly, I could care less who has what in their hands. In towns, it's the armor and color schemes of such that catch my attention, and the unique combinations of pieces from all 3 campaigns. As long as you're having fun and contributing to the goal(s) of the group you're in, have at ye you Dwarven Axe wieldin' fool!

Or Collector's Spiral Rod castin' rodent!

You can tell me up and down that you farmed your entire life away in GW and finally got the rare weapon of your dreams, but it won't make a bit of difference to how I'll respect you and your contributions to my group when there's always going to be the possibilty that you're FOS anyway. Found it? Yeaaaaah, sure. And let's just see you prove that lil Missy. When ANet allows us to hold weapons in towns, that's the day Guild Wars becomes a game of status and in-your-face envy. Thankfully, oh thankfully, this isn't the case.

Don't forget - just because you, the 'rare' weapons trader, think the weapon is 'rare', doesn't make it desirable. And no one is handing out free 'rare' skinned weapons. You talk of how easy it is to make this farming character, and how lazy people are for not doing it...when people don't have to now, and through normal gameplay go out and get it themselves. What exactly is wrong that concept? Oh...it makes you and you're 'rare' farming build and locations not so special after all. You play your way, they'll play theirs.

Have at ye you Dwarven Axe wieldin' fool!

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
And no one is handing out free 'rare' skinned weapons.
Speak for yourself. When I farmed hydras and goofed around with friends in FoW, I frequently took non-max FDSes and chaos axes to post-searing Ascalon and gave them to the newbies . . . and I ran into numerous people doing the exact same thing. There's an enormous community of nice people in GW who mostly have no reason to post on forums.