Colossal Scimitar...same fate as Dead Sword?

I bought a req 10 colossal scimitar this morning for 100k (no ectos), and then found a req 11 about 15 minutes later.

My suggestion is that you should wait a week or two if you want to buy one, because they'll be going for 40k in no time. Prices are dropping rapidly as the rare items become pretty common. Nothing will be worth anything in another week or two.

Maybe I'm just unobservant, but I don't recall seeing more than a couple dozen corsairs total when I vanquished Zehlon reach. Is there a quest or something that makes throngs of farmable scimitar-wielding corsairs appear?

Next up, Elemental Swords and Tattooed Scimitar! Not to mention dead bows too!!

So once again, farmers coming out complaining that their virtual lives will no longer hold meaning...because the average person now has the ability (and option) to get what rediculously overpriced items you've been shovelling down their throats day after day...themselves.

So...you're upset at who exactly? If anyone, be upset with yourself, and realize this game, and not every game, depends on people like you.

It is not, has never been, for the trade inclined.

Absolutely not.



I've posted this image before, but it's still relevant. I have faith that zero-advantage bling is a founding principle of the design of GW, and that Anet won't ever pander to the elitists and hardcore addicts by budging on this principle. They're smarter than that - a huge element of GW's appeal is watching people in black FoW with the latest swords/axes getting wasted by scruffy PvP chars.

Im all for the price drop.
WHEN THE HELLS ANET GOING TO KEEP ITS PROMISE AND CATER FOR THE CASUAL GAMER MARKET.

We should be able to choose our armour when creating our characters. We should be able to craft rare skin items without collecting gold or material.

Infact why wont ANET unlock all the towns so we can travel to them without completing the missions. Ive got REAL LIFE issues to attend to such as my wife and kids i dont have time to do pointless quests just so i can reach Hells precipe i want to go there whenever i like, i want all the content the game has to offer with no investment in time.

Now whos with me ?

Ele swords - dont know of one yet
Tattooed Scimitars - same place as Colossals
Dead Bows - Gate of Kryta mission HM same Mo/D build as Colossal farm

Erm.... then they would not be rare :-/

Someone can't detect sarcasm.

Ah, so things of high-prices are of little importance.

I can see why that's a major plus in Guild Wars - that it's not gear based. If only its PvE had more to offer.

man there are already 50 colossals in Auction. I think next week is going to be "Buy your perfect Colossal for 50k Week". I think ppl are now trying to sell their colossals which they bought for 100k+xx ectos for 100k=x ecto and they buy it back later for 50k.

I always see complaints like these >.>

Face it. ArenaNet introduces the Colossal Scimitar into Nightfall. Absolutely everyone wants the skin. Demand up -> Price up ->more farmers due to HM -> more supply -> more competition -> lower price -> happier customer

I'm not trying to apply something similar to the concept of David Ricardo's Iron Law of Wages into Guild Wars, and I don't know much about economic, but I just effectively answered your question. Please. Move on.

P.S. I've made quite a deal of money buying ectoplasm while they were 7kish. When the price rose back, ive sold all 50 (since I just realized I couldnt make the effort into acquiring FoW armor) and earned myself 50k. So, yes, using ectoplasm in trade does have its advantage.

I see alot of people here saying stuff like at least Anet are starting to see that everyone should be allowed to own what they want and stuff like that. Well um last time I checked there are still weapons which only the rich and insanely rich can afford and give unfair advantages over their "normal" versions.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6...estuff2yh9.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/222...vestuffao2.jpg

I mean you can fantasize all you like about one day being able to buy whatever you like for a few plat but as long as people have hundreds of ecto you wont be seeing many of the above sell for less than a stack of them. Even if ecto and gold loses value they will sell for what is out of many people's reach.

Just stating a fact, there is not and will not be total equality in Guild Wars. And unconditional weapons are a perfect example of this.

Colossal Scimitars may fall in price along with other weapons but no matter how much you want to be able to buy whatever you want for little gold there will be weapons/items which will always be expensive.

That dwarven axe is amazing... one of the most expensive items in GW I guess.

Anyway, these real stat advantages outweigh concerns about skins IMO. I also think Anet should finally change these unfair items, like they changed the Rockmolder, Fiery Flame Spitter etc. Nerfing time!

I spit coffee all over my keyboard when I read this. Nice one, Ferox.

Best looking and rarest stuff should only drop in high level end of game areas. You shouldnt have the wepons if you cant get that far in the game full stop and if you dont farm then you shouldnt have them either, there should be a way of telling a casual gamer compared to a expert.

QUOTE=The Herbalizer]I see alot of people here saying stuff like at least Anet are starting to see that everyone should be allowed to own what they want and stuff like that. Well um last time I checked there are still weapons which only the rich and insanely rich can afford and give unfair advantages over their "normal" versions.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6...estuff2yh9.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/222...vestuffao2.jpg

I mean you can fantasize all you like about one day being able to buy whatever you like for a few plat but as long as people have hundreds of ecto you wont be seeing many of the above sell for less than a stack of them. Even if ecto and gold loses value they will sell for what is out of many people's reach.

Just stating a fact, there is not and will not be total equality in Guild Wars. And unconditional weapons are a perfect example of this.

Colossal Scimitars may fall in price along with other weapons but no matter how much you want to be able to buy whatever you want for little gold there will be weapons/items which will always be expensive.[/QUOTE]

what if a-net made all daage mods unconditional? Skrewed then?

Eventually? It's already unlikely that if you spend 100K in keys that you will find enough good items to sell for anything approaching 100K.

Then new farmer will probably just farm keys and sell them to the merchants (or players who are still hoping for that magic chest drop).

WTF is wrong with having nice rare weps for dedicated players who work hard, Most of the people who posted here are Communists, if u all had your way in real life i bet everyone would drive in Bmw's and live in mansions.

Rare weapons cost money to get! No matter it's 100k or 100K+ whatever ectos, it's the fact of life in GW. Without rarity, where would we be spending our hard earned gold?

And you would see something wrong with this?

yes cause lord knows it would be waste if everyone had something nice...

For someone who regular mentions how wealthy he is I was expecting some r8-9 max dmg unconditional rare weapons with perfect inherent mods. You have a secret stash of some sort? O_o

Good point

Have you graduated from High School? Like it or not the world/economy needs people to mop floors, flip burgers etc, if you want something in this world you have to WORK for it.

You want something nice? WORK for it! Theres nothing wrong with a little hard work. These things that you complain are to expensive arnt mandatory, they dont give you any advantage in battle. They are there for the same reason as Fow armor...plz dont make me lecture

Let me get this straight... are you honestly trying to say a world where people starve to death is better than one where everyone has everything they want? In the real world there are limited resources, the same isn't true of guildwars where the only reason to limit something's availability is so that players otherwise lacking can find some measure of self worth in them.

I say sure, put rare items in the game, but don't make them the same items that have nice skins - after all the people that are collecting them are doing so because they are rare - a grey stick will do perfectly. It will also double as a handy "don't bother talking to this person" sign for the rest of the players.

PS Koss loves his new pink colossal.

Wealth is meaningless in this game. I've said it before, and I'll continue to say it 'til GW2 is released. (I have a feeling GW2 will cater to the elitist PvE players)

Anet needs to stop worrying about weapon skins having rarity; they need to add enough skins that there's diversity among what people use. I just hope they at least continue on the path they've made with Hard Mode.

Awesome quote, i'm putting that in my sig

As for Collosals, I'm gonna try and farm one when I can access HM in NF. It's just a skin, no big deal.

Tormented weapons and armbraces are going out like dead swords/collosals did.

The elemental sword will crash in value in days,maybe if it's lucky making it into the next week or 2.

Problem with reall world is, that there are limited resources of everything, thus there needs to be so way to distribute then, thus "you need to work for it" to be worthy.

Capitalism works because people are greedy bastards generally and it catters to that, Comunism failed for same reason exactly - you will get corruption everywhere.

In games, there are no limited resources (i am talking about ingame stuff amount) , it makes little sense to compare it to any reall economy paradigm, after all we have perfect communism/capitalism hybrid in gw and it works.

WTF does "work hard" mean?

This is a game, not work, mentally sane people play games to enjoy, and relax after you have actually worked hard for 10 hours in real life.

There are other games on the market which force players to work.
In WoW you need "uber gear", then you must work for months to get it, and when you have there's a new patch which introduces some "uber uber gear" that turns your hard-worked "uber gear" into junk, and you must have it and work and work again for months.
Of course there's a reason for it, they want you to play/work for months to get your real money.


I think that this story of the colossal scimitars happened without a specific intention of A.net to make this skin more common.
It just happened because they introduced HM and left some easily farmable corsairs outside Astralarium. And they drop something that players (note well, players, not A.net) have decided it's uber and rare.

Although this happened without a specific intention, the result is good.
Remove something that can cause in players the urge to "work" instead of playing a videogame, this is good in general.
Reduce the possibility that players and especially young players to become addicted to a videogame, this is very very good.

> Abna <

Um if you can find any ultra perfect unconditional weapons for sale then you have been able to do something which me and many others have not... The only two which are on active accounts and available for purchase are the R10 13% Longsword which was 750e and the R9 14% Short Bow which was I believe 500e. Every other unconditional has either been customized or is on an inactive account.

Being screwed over is not cool, its not fun and it really really sucks. People say buying weapons should be seen as a risk and if they fall in price it is the owners fault. There is a difference between a weapon "naturally" depreciating and Anet totally screwing people over. Tormented items will of cause lose value and when everyone was buying them at 200e each they should have accepted that. As more and more come available they will fall in price.

I am sure many owners of Collossal Scimtars accepted that they will fall in price as more and more come onto the market. However, I bet they didnt think for a minute that Hard Mode would change their rarity. When I bought to my knowledge the only afaik +45-3 hex Tall Shield after months of searching did it every cross my mind that Anet would change its stats? No, but it occured literally days later. Of course now I know that no item is safe from Anet as so many items have had their value totally unexpectedly destroyed.

Yes the players control the drop rate of the Collossal Scimitars.... That statement is beyond rediculous. So you are telling me that at no time did the developers of NF realise that adding what many consider is a cool looking skin then making it have a low drop rate would make it rare/1337/uber etc??? After all the testing, player testing etc they could not realise this.

Low supply + Nice skin + High Demand = High Price

Anet purposely made them have a low drop rate and gave them a nice skin. One can onlu assume that there would be high demand for nice skinned items and with that demand comes a high price.

Crystalline swords for example. There is no way in hell anyone could argue that Anet was not responsible for their high prices. Making the R8 15>50 ones drop like never clearly was going to lead to high prices regardless of their looks.

I'll admit this is the sucky bit about the change, and one that I had not initially thought of. It would have been much better had there been some way to make skins more available without taking so much away from those that do value in game gold... Unfortunately I'm just not seeing what solution is. The skin needed to have been readily availble from day one.

Hopefully the designers at anet will see your post and at least learn a lesson for the future.

As far as I have experienced, this is already true. I've never gotten anything worth keeping from a chest, and since they become merchant fodder, I can only sell them for at max 208g or so. Which is much less than half of the 600+ you spend for the key.

Well some people actually LIKE to work instead of getting all rare stuff by pushing on 1 button like spoiled little brats.

There is NO need to get a Colossal Scimitar/Crystalline Sword over a green/collector's weapon. If you still want 1000K weapons instead of collector's weapons without doing anything for it, you're kinda spoiled.

And if you somehow NEED the 1000K weapons to enjoy the game, then Guild Wars isn't the game for you.

There's nothing wrong with working hard for something rare. If I want a mercedes, I'm not gonna complain about how expensive it is. If I don't want to work for it, I don't get vanity stuff, either. If I want the Mercedes VERY bad, then the work is nothing compared to the great reward.

Besides, other cars drive just as good, or even better.

If you don't want to work in video games, don't play video games at all. Isn't the whole game work? Doing quests and missions, they're also work. (They're not fun after 10 times)

I'm kind of glad to hear that - I thought these mods were on a par with, say, crystalline swords or something. 2 in the game for sale is a lot different than "anyone can have one if they grind joylessly for months, and if you don't grind you're noncompetitive".

Do you mean Dwarven Axe is now easy to farm? where? I am curious! REALLY curious because I love that skin!

Beating the dead horse here, but saying that the rich have an unfair advantage because they can buy sundering/fortitude upgrades for their rare skinned weapons is nonsense. Anyone can unlock max weapon upgrades with a small amount of Balth faction and considering the fact that a Sundering PVP Short Sword of Fortitude functions exactly like a Sundering Crystalline Sword of Fortitude, I fail to how those with the latter have an "unfair advantage."

Anyway, about the original topic. I can understand how the active traders of the game would be upset by the increased drop rate of rare skins in HM, but it's important to also see the other side of the situation, that being that some players pursue nice skins because they want them for themselves, not to sell them. I am among this cast of players, so though I understand why the traders are upset, I am somewhat happy that I have a better chance of owning a few nice skins now.

Hey do u have Fow armor on all or any of your chars? Did u enjoy farming the money for the 100+ ecto/shards it takes for each set?

Im not trying to make a exact comparison between real world economics and a video game. Just saying stuff like Fow armor and Crystalines are in the game for a reason.

I'm not going to answer to that question and putting you in the embarrassing situation of having to answer to it as well.

We all know how the world works no need for you to explain it to us....we are talking about a game here btw

I don't think anything in the game is worth SPENDING countless hours for. It's just a game peoples.

LOL, Don't you people get it? The only RARE items in the game now.. are the minis and stuff that A.net gives to Japan! I mean, the items that are rare.. and hard to get.. are items you gotta pay 400+ ectos to get.. and they dont drop anywhere.. they are given to Japan And China.... The one exception is the roller beetle, which is now over 750 ectos. wanna make money in GW? Trade REAL rare items.. that are impossible for 98.7% of the population of GW to get.

Can your avrage joe affored a roller beetle? no.. it takes someone who has buckets of ectos..... Also same with mini ghostly hero... avrage joe can't get it because it drops in the hall of heros only.. and the drop rate is pretty low.. if you want to get rare items, its gotta be something a.net GIVES to people.. not something that drops.