Banned 71 hours for spamming?!

PyrAnkh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Lowbird Academy [LoW]

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Is this new? I going to DoA from kaineng, and i passed kamadan. I needed a +30 for spear for a while, so i figured id go like BUYING +30hp for spear in every city i would pass. So i was in kamadan, and i entered it a few times and boom, i disconnected.

Turns out ive been tempbanned for excessive messaging, and i may rejoin game after 72 hours. O_O? I mean, cmon, people are spamming like there is no tomorrow and i pass kamadan, drop a few lines and get myself tempbanned. I didnt even know you can be banned for that....well its a good thing you can but for a few lines.....O_O

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

If I had to guess - you probably got spotted by a mod. Just pure random chance (if you really aren't a "repeat offender"), and bad luck on you.

PyrAnkh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Lowbird Academy [LoW]

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i guess. But then half of kamadan should get banned :S

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
If I had to guess - you probably got spotted by a mod. Just pure random chance (if you really aren't a "repeat offender"), and bad luck on you.
Thats fair,I mean he could have used the specialized trading syst-

Owait.There isn't one.

MAHMISTAKELOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

If you really did spam that message in every city you passed through, you probably set off some sort of alarm. That could be considered bot-like behavior.

Taala

Taala

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Moral of the story kids:

Use the trade channel.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Guild Wars isn't a game played by a bot, or in this case...players that act like a bot. =.=

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

Did you use the trade chat or all chat? If it was trade chat you should be okay.

Was it in International Dist 1? When Gaile was answering questions?

People spam to buy and sell all the time and I have never heard of action being taken that didn't fall into the above two areas, but then, maybe this is something new....

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Any screen shot to back this up? Spamming WTB/WTS on any chats shouldn't get you banned, otherwise LA, Kamadan & Keinerg would be a ghost town. Is there anything else you're not telling us?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Did you do something bad before?O.o

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oh yeah, one more thing, It's funny how Gaile encourages us to buy/sell items in one of her threads, yet spamming is the only means of doing so, which grants people bans now? god i love this game!. (sarcasm).

Garreth MacLeod

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

There was a thread over at gwonline (closed now) with two people who this happened to. Both were selling, and received a temp ban.

Sounds like Anet changed something in the coding somewhere.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Oh yeah, one more thing, It's funny how Gaile encourages us to buy/sell items in one of her threads, yet spamming is the only means of doing so, which grants people bans now? god i love this game!. (sarcasm).
Do you ever get the impression that Anet doesn't think some things through very well? "We're going to nerf drops to promote player-to-player selling/buying; without giving you a decent in-game method of doing such. Oh, and we'll ban you if you try too hard."

Hmm...oooookay anet.

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

If you don't use the trade channel and the PARTY SEARCH BUTTON that HAS A SPECIFIC SECTION FOR TRADE and is AS CLOSE TO A "TRADE SYSTEM" AS WE WILL EVER GET (because Anet will never, ever, ever create an auction system, quit deluding yourselves), then I have absolutely zero sympathy for you.

I leave all-chat turned off because you absolutely cannot use it for its original purposes (discussion with non-guildie/alliance/team members for non-trade reasons) because of the trade spam. You're supposed to be able to avoid trade talk by turning off the trade channel, or go listen to it if you WTB/WTS something.

So people getting banned for trade spam on allchat? Great! Good work, Anet!

PyrAnkh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Lowbird Academy [LoW]

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Well i used all chat. I was just skipping tru towns hoping for somebody to PM me. I contacted customer support, but no answers yet. Personally i think its pathetic to ban people for THREE days because of this. I mean, if you change the code, please drop a warning before you wtfban people.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_Anadri
If you don't use the trade channel and the PARTY SEARCH BUTTON that HAS A SPECIFIC SECTION FOR TRADE and is AS CLOSE TO A "TRADE SYSTEM" AS WE WILL EVER GET (because Anet will never, ever, ever create an auction system, quit deluding yourselves), then I have absolutely zero sympathy for you.

I leave all-chat turned off because you absolutely cannot use it for its original purposes (discussion with non-guildie/alliance/team members for non-trade reasons) because of the trade spam. You're supposed to be able to avoid trade talk by turning off the trade channel, or go listen to it if you WTB/WTS something.

So people getting banned for trade spam on allchat? Great! Good work, Anet!
Have you ever tried using it? It's too small to work. That's why nobody uses it. The only thing you can get in there would have to be materials, like "WTB Ectos PM" or "WTS Iron PST". That's all. Don't be so hasty until you've actually tried using the Party trade. It doesn't work. It's not an option.

Ozric

Ozric

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

Phoolz Like Us

E/Me

the OP never stated what channel he used. If he was spamming multiple times before the text fade-out in local chat, then I think a tempban is appropriate.

Just a way to keep the trade spam in the trade channel. If Anet has begun to do this, it's a good thing.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garreth MacLeod
There was a thread over at gwonline (closed now) with two people who this happened to. Both were selling, and received a temp ban.

Sounds like Anet changed something in the coding somewhere.

Do you ever get the impression that Anet doesn't think some things through very well? "We're going to nerf drops to promote player-to-player selling/buying; without giving you a decent in-game method of doing such. Oh, and we'll ban you if you try too hard."

Hmm...oooookay anet.
Yeah, I've had that impression since a few months into play, this is just so funny, they ban people for spamming now.. that's all anet does to regulate the game, ban ban ban, ban ban ban, more bans, remember the perma-bans they pulled on a ton of people that were ''accidental'' and they had to fight for their accounts back? jesus.

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrAnkh
Well i used all chat. I was just skipping tru towns hoping for somebody to PM me. I contacted customer support, but no answers yet. Personally i think its pathetic to ban people for THREE days because of this. I mean, if you change the code, please drop a warning before you wtfban people.
All chat spam has been an issue for quite some time. It is actually good to see something being done, but at the same time I would lke to know their "new guidelines" can we be banned for "LFG" or "GLF" that is spam as well.... Hoping someone tells us the rules here

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Alot of people spam, and alot of people get away with it... but once in a while, a few lucky contestants gets to be martyred as an example for the rest.

Don't spam.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrAnkh
Well i used all chat.
So....you specifically circumvented a game mechanic to derive a personal benefit and got banned?

Although it's easy to see why you did it (because "everyone else was"), it's also easy to see why there was a repercussion for your actions. This is why I've commented many times on various threads suggesting "how to make a quick buck" that posting in the ALL channel, even in Lions Arch Dist 1, is NOT a good idea.

Viper for meow

Viper for meow

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoTi

R/W

omg

i been banned for 71 hours for saying: Selling monk tome 18k maybe 30 times in 10 minutes. it says im spamming to much and you can play the game again in 71 hours. comon guild wars, give me 1 hour ban first so i know i can get banned for it. i haven't been spamming more then i normally do, so whats the point ?? every one is spamming in Kamadan juwel of istan, if you don't there is no point of selling there.

shame on anet

greetings

natus

natus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

Purge all chat!

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

they need to hand this out like candy

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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although i feel for you especially since it is hit or miss...on who gets banned. I think there should be an aggressive ban on people advertiseing items for sale in the normal chat channels. Good Job Anet and keep up the pressure..but maybe like a nochannel for 2 hours .....banning from game for 72hours is a bit extreme considering that there isn't a vialbe trade option for anyone to use...and the Party Search feature wasn't originally deisgned for trading if you remember it was put in as an after thought because some people were using it.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

When you sent it to chat did you do it once per time, or are you one of those people who thinks sending a message means send it 5 times in a row each time? If the latter I can understand a ban, that's really just screws up the whole thing and makes everyone have to spam more.

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Were you spamming in All chat? Just asking, as if you weren't it would seem quite unreasonable. There was another thread just a little while ago about the same thing happening to someone, in Kamadan. Probably some game moderator is hanging out there...

LONGA

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

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Maybe A-net might give you 5K point on unlucky title after the ban is lifted.Maybe you should look back what you did cause the BAN.Like others people say above.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Keep your advice to yourself.

They aren't just grabbing one spammer. More and more of these guys are getting what they deserve. Prepare for a wave of "ZoMG! I got banned for spamming WTS in the wrong channel".

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Have you ever tried using it? It's too small to work. That's why nobody uses it. The only thing you can get in there would have to be materials, like "WTB Ectos PM" or "WTS Iron PST". That's all. Don't be so hasty until you've actually tried using the Party trade. It doesn't work. It's not an option.
Don't make assumptions about others based on your own limitations. I have used the party trade on multiple occasions to both buy and sell. It's much more useful than spamming the trade channel. If I have things to sell, I'll pop a short description and price in there, and sure enough, somebody will add to my party and buy it. Buying works the same way.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrAnkh
Well i used all chat.
This being the case personally I think its great they banned someone for All channel spamming (no offense though). People who do that are terribly annoying. It simply sounds like you caught the attention of a dev or other mod in game and got singled out (unlucky). Rather doubt its a code change, but who knows.

I combat spamming in the All channel is by turning the channel off when I am looking to buy/sell something and using Trade only. This way I dont support All channel trade use and though I might miss the occasional sale, I'd rather do that than support that behavior.

Anyway, sorry you got banned though, but there is no point in writing Anet about. That wont get appealed. Chill out for a bit and you'll be back playing before you know it.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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you used all chat?

admiteddly spammed it trade?

got banned?

/ha-ha

(ONLY 72 hours? sigh, week should have been better.)

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

my friend got banned for 72 hours for spaming WTB in trade chat! he spamed like 5 times and disconnected. i have a feeling anet is abusing us

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by allience
my friend got banned for 72 hours for spaming WTB in trade chat! he spamed like 5 times and disconnected. i have a feeling anet is abusing us
Heh. Maybe it is a code change thing then. Well, its a code change I support. Spamming = FTL.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_Anadri
Don't make assumptions about others based on your own limitations. I have used the party trade on multiple occasions to both buy and sell. It's much more useful than spamming the trade channel. If I have things to sell, I'll pop a short description and price in there, and sure enough, somebody will add to my party and buy it. Buying works the same way.
Depends on what you're selling. Works great for materials and dyes, not for anything else.

"WTS Fiery Gladius of Enchanting"

That's all I'm able to fit in the trade window. I'm not able to include the Req, Price, Stats, or Color. That's not enough to catch people's attention.

On Topic: Banning someone for any amount of time is too much. I think not being able to use trade or general chat for at most an hour would be pretty suitable penalty.

They said that they won't implement a better trade system, so that's out of the question. Maybe they could at least change the color to something more pleasing. The faded red color is ugly on the eyes.

Oofus

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

Yes, W T S is bad. I mean how are naked cage dancing necros supposed to get tips in LA Am D1 if you interrupt their spam? And how can you get a really good Warrior sinc dance going in Kamadan Am D1 if all the |v|10 warriors can't see your spam?

For those who missed it, that was sarcasm.

Seriously people, LA Am D1, Kamadan Am D1 and Ascalon Int ARE TRADE CENTERS, it's an accepted FACT of GW. If you don't want to see "W T S" and "W T B" then go to district 2 in those 3 cities to spam for “a good guild who has vent and ABs”. And frankly the occasional W T S in other areas doesnt realy hurt anybody. Get over it. If Anet is now banning for this then they need to get their priorities in order. But hey I guess ANet needs to look out for all the 12 year olds who are "looking for a GF" and want to "cyber for 1k per minute", wouldn't want to interupt their all chat would we.

Lydz

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

I personally am glad you got temp banned (no offense). Maybe that will teach you not to spam.

Viper for meow

Viper for meow

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoTi

R/W

i understand the ban for spamming in all chat, but why 71 HOURS !!!!

give a warning ban first for like 5 hours or something, and at least let people know you can get banned for spamming sells in all chat

get real comon

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lydz
I personally am glad you got temp banned (no offense). Maybe that will teach you not to spam.
Yeah, and I'm sure that you haven't tried selling stuff without spamming before, oh perfect one. *bows* why don't you go try selling stuff and see if you get banned?, Seriously, people even putting their chat into the TRADE window have been banned, and for 71 hours, wtf anet?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

I got a 48 hour ban for something i said that was taken out of context.

:P At least your ban is more justified.

Heimdallw32

Heimdallw32

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

United States of America

The Seven Deadly [Sins]

Good on Anet. Finally starting to do something about people attempting to bypass their coding (type "WTS" instead of breaking it up or saying "Selling" and it automatically puts it in the Trade channel...think Anet's trying to tell you guys something?), good job. I hope this happens more often. Trade channel is for flipping trade, why use local? "becuz every1 else duz" or "becuz i want to make sure ppl see it" are not acceptable.

If I wanted to -Trade- I would use the -Trade- channel, so why do people think I want to see this sort of stuff on Local (Which Anet never intended for trading, but morons decided to use it for that to bypass people attempting to ignore them)?:
"Selling ectos pm w/ offer
Selling ectos pm w/ offer
Selling ectos pm w/ offer
Selling ectos pm w/ offer
Selling ectos pm w/ offer
Selling ectos pm w/ offer"

Every ten seconds or so? Yeah, ok, so certain places are the "trade centers" of GW...fine, but why not use the TRADE channel that Anet so kindly provided for you? And the awesome party search system? If you have trouble getting people interested with that then you need to look at how you're using it; I've used it for selling and buying and it's worked great for me so far.

Again, thank you Anet for finally doing something about this disruptive behavior. Maybe it'll make people think twice before starting to up-enter spam in local.