No one beleives rits can heal!?

So in total u get 2745 heal total over a minute and a half for just 5 energy now if that isnt worth it i dont know what is. And while its doing that the Rit can continue healing others when needed or use attack skills etc. I think the poink ArKaiN is trying to make is that you can't ensure Preservation will heal the correct person, and also it's range is pretty limited as it is not like other spirits.

I stopped using Preservation, however, I have been tempted to take it now and again as my rit healing build doesn't really *need* any particular elite. I'm currently trying out Spirit Light Weapon, although I often take Spirit Channeling as energy management, although I very very rarely need to use it.

The reason Preservation isn't as good as some Rit elites imo is because it's too easy to move too far out of range of it, especially for melee, although the total heal it can chuck out for 5 energy is certainly impresive.

As a cheap spirit to use for skills which require you to be within earshot of one, it's actually not too bad though.

k you want Maths -

Heal Other + Healers Boons = -15e, 2 attribute lines, - 1 energy regen and Heals for 285
Spirit Light + Preservation = -10e, 1 attrib line, and Heals for 310

ok which combo heals more - the Rit Combo

lets look at the above mentioned healparty

Healparty - 15e, heals for 84, 8 member party = total heal 672
Life -10e, 20 sec delay, heals for 140, 8 member party = total heal 1120

Has the big drawback of 20 secs delay but for the energy usage and heal comparison Life out-heals Healparty

ok lets try condition removal skills then

Mending Touch -5e- point blank range, 63 heal only on condition removal, up to 2 possible removals at once
Mend Body and Soul -5e- 121 Heal guarantied and as many condition removed as u have spirits within earshot

Rit wins again

Ok lets try regen heal then

Healbreeze -10e-+9 regen for 10 seconds, 1 person (results in 200 healing in 10 seconds max, cast 2.5 times to match energy of recup, thats 500 healing in total)
Recuperation -25e-+3regen whole party, (results in 60 healing per person in 10 seconds, 282 healing for total length each person, team of 8 = total heal of 2256)

I think the Rit wins again, not to mention the rit is free to continue casting while Recuperation is still up.
I think your math is rather good, except for skipping DF bonus in some cases.
But you conveniently hide the fact that Rits doesn't heal on demand. The conditionality of their heal is what kill them.
Life fail if you don't bring anything to kill it when the party needs it. Preservation fails as it doesn't heal what you need to heal or when you need it.
Both are spirits, so you must wait to place them to be effective and stay in the same place. Impossible to put in time if there is a bad aggro, impossible to use if you have to fall back or if they are destroyed and recharging.
That's why Rits will never be as good as monks: they heal more on the paper, but never when it is needed in reality.
I'd rather use a weapon of remedy-protective was Kaolai-Soothing memories Rit than a Spirit HEaler Rit.

I think your math is rather good, except for skipping DF bonus in some cases.
But you conveniently hide the fact that Rits doesn't heal on demand. The conditionality of their heal is what kill them.
Life fail if you don't bring anything to kill it when the party needs it. Preservation fails as it doesn't heal what you need to heal or when you need it.
Both are spirits, so you must wait to place them to be effective and stay in the same place. Impossible to put in time if there is a bad aggro, impossible to use if you have to fall back or if they are destroyed and recharging.
That's why Rits will never be as good as monks: they heal more on the paper, but never when it is needed in reality.
I'd rather use a weapon of remedy-protective was Kaolai-Soothing memories Rit than a Spirit HEaler Rit. Actually Rits do heal on demand since they have non spirit skills too and i did mention the big drawback to life is the time delay.

I also didnt mention that spirits are also good as a distraction when things have gone totally wrong and the party is retreating, they may die in a couple of seconds, but thats a couple of seconds extra u have to pull away from the enemy mob(s).

Spirits like Preservation and Recuperation etc. arnt meant to replace a healer, there meant to supplement one, it assists the Rit in healing, While the Rit is keeping everyone alive the spirit can heal the party in general and help keep the whole party's health up so the Rit has less healing to do, saving a considerable amount of energy. While the spirit is doing its healing effect the Rit can continue to use its other skills in other words, while a monk does not have this ability of any healing support it has to cast everything itself, making it much easier to run out of energy and for the team to be overpowered.

Yes i ignored DF mainly because this is from a second attribute line. If you really want the ultimate Healer as i pointed out earier in this thread u want a Monk using Rit skills for the divine bonus ontop of the rits amazing heals. Rits have the superior healing skills, monk have the divine bonus, combine them together and u have the best combo. However a monk using monk skills is vastly out performed by a Rit using rit skills.

I'd rather use a weapon of remedy-protective was Kaolai-Soothing memories Rit than a Spirit HEaler Rit. Imo in a Rit healing build Weapon of Remedy and Vengeful Weapon do not do nearly as much as the likes of Soothing Memories, Mend Body and Soul or Spirit Light for the energy. As for weapon spells in a "Healing" Rit build I personally prefer Resilient Weapon and Weapon of Warding.

People seem to be whining about the time it takes to whack down a spirit. 3 Seconds for Life isn't long at all, and I manage perfectly fine to cast it before and during battle.

Protective was Kaolai is AWESOME. It heals for more than Heal Party since (which I didn't realise) Soph said HP doesn't trigger the DF bonus on all members. PwK is also Pre-cast and only needs to be dropped when required. When you drop it you regain more energy anyway meaning if the party is in need of further healing you have the additional energy of your staff to do so.

Learn to not run crappy builds then. As others have echoed after me, they have no trouble getting into groups with a resto healer, and it may just be your build. And after noticing you're using spirit light weapon, it just made me question that build even more. What if your lone spirit gets taken down? GG gimped elite?

And please don't pvp with resto rit. What pvp needs are good up and coming players, not people who think a second-rate character can get the job done as well as a first-rate one. i am no longer even paying attention to your posts, EVERY SINGLE POST you have made that i have seen (in various threads) have very little to do with the post, and do not help anyone. Plus you still cannot even understand my build, or at least you havent shown you understand it at all even though i explained most of it, which makes me wonder if youre even paying attention to other posts(STOPPING FLAMING NOW -_-)

There was a great point made that ritualist work with conditions better with weapon of remedy and such... but IMHO RC trumps all other condition removers... Ritualists definately have better energy management, but as a monk i never run out of energy unless HEAVY pressure and i am alone... So if they gave rits a 15 energy heal that was 250 health in 1/4 a second with no restrictions ... until then i would say there is no real point for all that energy management. So far i am still learning towards PROT monks (dont have much experience with HB, though) over rits... and im pretty sure almost everyone else can agree with that.

In my opinion, if you are a healing Rit, you can find another team. The only Rit's I have in my teams are Weapons rits, or damage rits (a few spirits, a few damage spells). If I want healing, I'll bring a monk. Monks not only can heal, but can prot, which is MUCH better than heals.

So basically, I don't really care how much better Rits apparently are at healing. Sure, play a healing Rit. You just won't get into teams, because Rits instead of Monks is a bad choice. Most monks generally go Heal or Protect (although a few go combined) Everyone agree Monks are the Masters of Protection but rits are the new Masters of Healing or atleast the joint Masters of healing.

And your comments are the reason most people wont play are Rits, because people are too ignorant to break from using Monk, Ele, War, Ranger and Necro only teams. Rather than complain things are too Hard, u cant find a monk or things need changing to Anet, how about u change your tactics instead and use the other professions to the great effect they can be used to! Rits are good healers, a Rit can be as good as a monk at healing, anyone who is looking for a monk healer and rejects a Rit healer is smiting their own foot to save their toe

Monks, live with the fact that you are not the Gods of the party. Rits, just because we are underplayed doesn't mean it's the monk's fault =P QFT. let this be the end of it