Any word on the new PvE sunspear skills?

DeBron

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It's been almost a month since we've heard any news on the sunspear skills. Those of us who took the time to max the title are still waiting . . .

Any tidbits of information would be appreciated!

VitisVinifera

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chirp chirp chirp

(those are crickets)

Gaile sure has been silent since Alex quit

edit: if she actually decides to still be Community Relations person again, I'd like to hear an answer to her other recent lie, that about there's no anti-farm in HM

IlikeGW

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In a word: no.

thunderai

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when and why did alex quit, and when did gail stop being the CR?

The Great Al

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Gaile has been silent since she got really upset in that one huge thread. I can understand why she got upset, I just wish she wouldn't take things personally...I doubt that more than 1 or 2 isolated comments were meant towards her. But yeah, seriously, where are these skills?

Zinger314

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderai
when and why did alex quit, and when did gail stop being the CR?
[douche]Gaile stopped being the CR when she stopped posting, because she obviously doesn't care what the community thinks.[/douche]

Seriously, Gaile Grey is apparently part Dev/part CR. That what she claims, anyways. Alex Weekes left after receiving an offer from another company (some speculate that he wanted to jump ship, hehe). He has been replaced with Michael Kelton as the new European CR. One question: Has anyone ever seen Michael Kelton or Andrew Patrick, the other CR?

On topic, I'm kinda annoyed that Gaile has been mum about the PvE-only skills. I'm kinda annoyed that Gaile has been mum period...

VitisVinifera

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I saw lots of Andrew Patrick during the ATS beta testing. Went up against him quite a few times too. Other than that......

Amon Warrior

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Sunspear skills?

That is quite an annoying wait...

Smile Like Umean It

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The only time I hear anything about them is when someone posts another thread about them. You'd think one of them would get a reply...

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Originally Posted by Zinger314
[douche]Gaile stopped being the CR when she stopped posting, because she obviously doesn't care what the community thinks.[/douche]
Heh, looks like someone took the douche advice to heart.
And I've seen her rarely post here and the odd post on gwo. They all seem to be "cute" posts where she's joking with the community rather than anything that actually has any thing to do with game play *shrug*

Neo Nugget

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What i wanna know is if we can get them at r6 sunspear and not only available to r9 and 10's.

But a dev update would be nice right about now lol.

brokenmonkey

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"hello , is there anybody in there, if not if you can hear me, is there anyone home, come on down, i hear your feeling down..." Pink Floyd. lol anyways, that was me asking were is Gaile also!

Zinger314

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Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It
And I've seen her rarely post here and the odd post on gwo. They all seem to be "cute" posts where she's joking with the community rather than anything that actually has any thing to do with game play *shrug*
Gaile's most recent post on GWO was not so nice. She didn't even have the courtesy to insult Guruers!

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
What i wanna know is if we can get them at r6 sunspear and not only available to r9 and 10's.

But a dev update would be nice right about now lol.
My guess is that each profession will get 2 unique skills: One skill at r6 (breaking point for "A Hero Shall Lead Them,") and one skill at r8 (breaking point for Hard-Mode only Sunspear progression), with both of them scaling linearly to r10. If it's only one skill per profession, I'll be dissappointed, given the time taken.

zidane888

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
chirp chirp chirp

(those are crickets)

Gaile sure has been silent since Alex quit

edit: if she actually decides to still be Community Relations person again, I'd like to hear an answer to her other recent lie, that about there's no anti-farm in HM
Oh my, I can understand why she wouldn't post when I read such things. Also, why is it that Anet NEEDS to put forth this type of info. Do all of you NEED to know everything before it goes live?

lennymon

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My guess is that your guess is wrong, not one single pve only skill is tied to a profession yet so why would that change for this. In fact the dev chat may have addressed this as well, but they may have only been talking about the title based pve skills in gwen only.

Guardian of the Light

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Al
Gaile has been silent since she got really upset in that one huge thread. I can understand why she got upset, I just wish she wouldn't take things personally...I doubt that more than 1 or 2 isolated comments were meant towards her. But yeah, seriously, where are these skills?


O dear I hope Gaile didn't snap because well after taking 2 years of stupid moron comments (even with lots of good people posting also) it might cracked her patience......

DeBron

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Yes zidane888, I do believe that Anet needs to tell us these things.

I paid for all three of the campaigns: I don't think asking politely for information is an absurd request on my part.

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DeBron: you only think so because they have been so open in the past so it's kind of expected. That said, it's fully within their rights to clam up and say 'screw it, you want info, be polite to us rather than insulting jerks'

Smile Like Umean It

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Gaile's most recent post on GWO was not so nice. She didn't even have the courtesy to insult Guruers!
Ah, this was the last thing I saw her post.
I figured she just doesn't acknowledge our existence anymore.

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
O dear I hope Gaile didn't snap because well after taking 2 years of stupid moron comments (even with lots of good people posting also) it might cracked her patience......
Like Great said, it was only one or two people doing it and although they were jerks and most definitely got out of line, the reason they did it, from what I can tell is that they were getting annoyed with her skirting around their questions or just lying about it. Even I was getting irritated and I'm the one who has to constantly get on my guildies about blaming her for every update they might not favor.

KamikazeChicken

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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Alex Weekes left after receiving an offer from another company (some speculate that he wanted to jump ship, hehe).
He mostly likely got a job working on Fury, and that's probably a better place for Alex. Fury seems to be more of what Anet originally intended their PvP to be.

Andrew posted when Gaile was MIA for the Taiwan (?) trip.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Gaile's most recent post on GWO was not so nice. She didn't even have the courtesy to insult Guruers!
Gaile seems a tad bitter, so maybe she should look to move away from the CR position toward something less stressful. Maybe Anet could get someone who does both PvP and PvE enough to communicate and understand the entire GW population? (I know Gaile does some PvP, but we're all aware she's a PvE carebear at heart. That's why she enjoyed posting on Guru and GWO so much.)

fenix

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I imagine the skills will be released with GW:EN, as they have said. The PvE skills that they've mentioned probably ARE the GW:EN new skills.

Zinger314

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
I imagine the skills will be released with GW:EN, as they have said. The PvE skills that they've mentioned probably ARE the GW:EN new skills.
Quoting from the relevant Dev Update:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Grey
Beyond all of that, we've also realized during the course of development that these changes give us the ability to rebalance several things in Normal Mode that players have found too challenging or unpleasant. For example, we're altering the death explosions of the Afflicted creatures in Factions, creature distribution in particularly difficult areas, monsters scattering away from area of effect spells, and healer creatures running from melee attackers indefinitely. We've also decided to add a number of PvE-only Sunspear skills, which will be available to players through both Normal and Hard Mode.
Obviously a very, very old quote. (dated at 3/20). Perhaps things changed.

VitisVinifera

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
I imagine the skills will be released with GW:EN, as they have said. The PvE skills that they've mentioned probably ARE the GW:EN new skills.
04/20 Gaile Gray: New Sunspear/Lightbringer Skills (Hard Mode)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emik
According to the update notes no skills have been added as of yet and are planned to be introduced in the game in a coming update...

That is correct. We're still testing the PvE-only skills -- shouldn't be long now!

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you are wrong, fenix
and gaile is a month late on this, or at least an update

fenix

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Can't blame me, Anet are late on EVERYTHING.

CyberMesh0

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
Gaile seems a tad bitter
Gee, I wonder! If she did crack, it's a miracle she's lasted this long.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Can't blame me, Anet are late on EVERYTHING.
And if people keep doing nothing but this, they're only keeping her away.

Stop it with the BS already people!

fenix

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I deserve the right to complain, AT's were 5 months late. So I reserve the right to complain about delays. If Anet said that the skills are being worked on, then they're being worked on.

Wtf Its A Monk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
I deserve the right to complain, AT's were 5 months late. So I reserve the right to complain about delays. If Anet said that the skills are being worked on, then they're being worked on.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

Artkin

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Been almost a month without Gaile....

Skills will be released with GW:EN....end of story...BUY GW:EN or be without

Roshi_ikkyu

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Maybe they nerfed the skill before even releasing them!


(lol that was a Anerf joke)

Sad about Gaile, :S

Gaile Gray: I have burden of fandom on me!
Roshi Ikkyu: I'm casting dissolved social stigma on Gaile Gray!

fenix

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Maybe Anet are just sorting out a replacement for Alex, so they haven't been doing dev stuff till that's done.

Artkin

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Heartbeat of GW weakens....bots heartbeat strengthens....

Zinger314

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artkin
Heartbeat of GW weakens....bots heartbeat strengthens....
Bots with heartbeats?! What, is GW:EN going to have The Terminator as the final boss?

Also, Gaile has been active, as in another [meaningless] post on GWO. I'm becoming a tad annoyed...

sindex

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(speculation begins) Next month. (speculation ends) Otherwise I think it will be a rather long time.

Smile Like Umean It

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Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
And if people keep doing nothing but this, they're only keeping her away.

Stop it with the BS already people!
BS? Even though they have a great game and do great things with it they still are in fact late on quite a few things and not informing their customers. At this point I'd be happy for a simple "Things are taking longer than expect, we don't have an estimate time that the skills will become available."

If Gaile chooses not to post here anymore because her feelings got hurt she needs to do 1 of 2 things.
1. Grow thicker skin and put on a fake smile (if she didn't know that there would be criticisms to what people didn't agree with and that sometimes it would be misdirected at her, the "Voice of Anet", she apparently doesn't fully understand the ins and outs of her job).
2. Find something else to do. You can't be the medium between a company and it's customers and then just not post on one of the sites because a couple of people got rowdy. Either stop posting all together or treat the sites equally.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Also, Gaile has been active, as in another [meaningless] post on GWO. I'm becoming a tad annoyed...
Please stop. You're making it happen to me too...

NB: I have NOT joined the I </3 Gaile Gray Club, if such a thing even exist.

VitisVinifera

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totally agree, Smile. If she can't hack it in *this* job, she needs to be a librarian or something, where there are *zero* challenges and *zero* stress (I apologize if I've offended any librarians here, it's just the first thing that popped in my head).

Point is: she has (had?) a pretty good job doing something many fanboys dream of, and she had to know what some of the challenges would be (ie, people like me). But come on......if she can't hack it doing this cupcake of a deal, she needs to get out of an industry where it only gets harder as you get into the production side of things.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Bots with heartbeats?! What, is GW:EN going to have The Terminator as the final boss?

Also, Gaile has been active, as in another [meaningless] post on GWO. I'm becoming a tad annoyed...
Wow, that is frustrating .

CyberMesh0

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It
BS? Even though they have a great game and do great things with it they still are in fact late on quite a few things and not informing their customers.
Tell me you're not used to it happening by now... people should have known when HM came out that "a few hours" would mean 3 hours before 12AM pacific, because it's always happened like that before.

Hell Raiser

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I think she is just disappointed at how ungrateful the community is. Ever have kids (or even young siblings) that are completely ungrateful of everything you (or your parents) do? You do everything you can for them, and all they want is more.

Gaile doesn't deserve the bashing, she is only CR. It is expected, however, and you have every right to do it. And they have every right to give you nothing, tell you nothing, and break all contact between player and company.

ArenaNet is a company, and a company needs to make money. Do you think it would benefit them more to release Hard Mode with Nightfall or use NF to keep your attention for 6(?) months and then include HM? Same goes for Sunspear skills and other updates (ATS, for example).

zidane888

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
totally agree, Smile. If she can't hack it in *this* job, she needs to be a librarian or something, where there are *zero* challenges and *zero* stress (I apologize if I've offended any librarians here, it's just the first thing that popped in my head).

Point is: she has (had?) a pretty good job doing something many fanboys dream of, and she had to know what some of the challenges would be (ie, people like me). But come on......if she can't hack it doing this cupcake of a deal, she needs to get out of an industry where it only gets harder as you get into the production side of things.
Just curious, have you any experience in the Gaming industry? Do you even know what the full spectrum of her job entails? I don't mean any disrespect, but you sound like a 15 year old that has absolutely no concept of the job and industry you are speaking of (I apologize if I've offended any 15 year old people here, it's just the first thing that popped in my head).

A 'good job doing something many fanboys dream of?' Please I had an opportunity to meet her at a pre-release event. I can assure you any Fanboy cannot do the job she does.
I guess its just assumed that Anet must have somekind of contractual obligation to answer all and any questions the community may ask, quelm any uneasyness or supposed demands from whiny/ignorant ranters.

Its time like these, I'm glad the game is in the hands of capable professionals and not know-it-all clueless 'fans'.

CyberMesh0

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Raiser
I think she is just disappointed at how ungrateful the community is. Ever have kids (or even young siblings) that are completely ungrateful of everything you (or your parents) do? You do everything you can for them, and all they want is more.

Gaile doesn't deserve the bashing, she is only CR. It is expected, however, and you have every right to do it. And they have every right to give you nothing, tell you nothing, and break all contact between player and company.
QFT, Exactly what I was getting at. There are arguments that I agree with, and some that I don't- that I see daily on this forum. I've seen both come from people that put them forth in a reasonable manner, and also that whine about them like 2 year olds. I respect people that are reasonable in their arguments, even if I don't agree with them. There's a huge difference.

Exoudeous

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yup. people demand to have info from her, and at the same time they want to flame her to no end for what ever she says or doesnt say. You can't shoot the messenger here and still want info.

I mean how many of you people have jobs where you have to talk to customers all day? im sure youd know that alot of people are stupid and/ or yell at you for things that arnt even your fault.