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Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

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19 May 2007 at 06:22 - 121

Hmmm I'm just wondering is this your typical workday it this?

Gaile: Umm James I need to talk to you
James: Whhhaaa...
Gaile: The PvE skills when are they coming out
James: GW:Ennn I think.. I'm sorry I need my cup of coffee
Gaile: What's that in your hand
James:

uummm that's eerr.. someone else's coffee and I'm holding it for them....
Gaile: I meant the other ones we were gonna introduce in Hard mode
James: Talk to Ben
Gaile: Ok

Ben: Ya I'm afraid I think it's going to take another month
Gaile: But that's what you said last month
Ben: Umm ya there were some delays because we need to design mini-pets because the players would be really upset....
Gaile: ....That's also what you said last month
Ben: Look just tell the fans that it'll take a while ok
Gaile: But....I...promised
Ben: Go do that please
Gaile: They'll kill me because...
Ben: No they love you your Gaile Gray ^_^
Gaile:

Ben: ...why are you looking at me like that
Gaile: BBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! *raises plunger in the air*

If you don't know that's from check out this game ^_^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHiJK1KJHac

Amon Warrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

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19 May 2007 at 06:57 - 122

Guardian of the Light! LOL! That's what I call a piece of fan wisdom!

Now a piece of fan speculation.

They're probably swamped with work because of GW:EN and all, and work tends to accumulate under such circumstances.

But unless they're still thinking about what to do for the PVE only skills, they should be able to come up with a clear, simple and differentiated statement for Gaile, because the language used so far has been a bit dense...

Anyway, I also tend to be 'dense' myself with my communication, especially when tiredness or stress clouds objectivity... so let's just wait and see...

eremos

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

South Africa

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19 May 2007 at 08:01 - 123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon Warrior

Just to clarify.

Lightbringer skills are not profession related. The Sunspear skill in existence is not profession related.

So, in mid-June there's going to be a release of skills not related by title, but by profession? And other skills "not tied to any particular profession" such as the assumed Sunspear skills, are going to be released together with GW:EN?

There's still something to be clarified between what's profession-related and title-related, since the original post was to ask about when we’re going to have Sunspear skills.

To put it in simple terms:

- Profession-related skills in mid-June?

- Title-related skills, such as Sunspear, to be released with GW:EN?

Or are we talking about a new formula here where there's no such clear distinction?

Profession and title aren't mutually exclusive.

Warrior + sunspear rank = these skills
mesmer + sunspear rank = other skills
etc.

June: Sunspear, profession-specific skills.
EotN: Non-profession specific skills; method of acquisition unknown at the moment.

Amon Warrior

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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19 May 2007 at 08:49 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by eremos

Profession and title aren't mutually exclusive.

June: Sunspear, profession-specific skills.
EotN: Non-profession specific skills; method of acquisition unknown at the moment.

Yes, that would be a good inference from Gaile's latest statement, which I would agree and accept in a heartbeat.

But there has been no direct reference of 'Sunspear' skills that are 'profession-specific' coming in June, which would've been a better indication under the context of this thread.

Unless there's reference of that somewhere that I don't know about and would kindly ask for someone to point me to the right direction.

bazz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

19 May 2007 at 09:55 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I wanted to let you know that Lead Designer James Phinney confirms that it's a fair bet that the PvE-only Skills will be incorporated into the game by mid-June. I believe that the skills in this batch will be profession-specific, where, as you know, there will be PvE-only skills in GW:EN that will not be tied to any particular profession.

/salavate
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eremos

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South Africa

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19 May 2007 at 10:02 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon Warrior

Yes, that would be a good inference from Gaile's latest statement, which I would agree and accept in a heartbeat.

But there has been no direct reference of 'Sunspear' skills that are 'profession-specific' coming in June, which would've been a better indication under the context of this thread.

Unless there's reference of that somewhere that I don't know about and would kindly ask for someone to point me to the right direction.

Fair enough, they've not specifically called them Sunspear skills lately, but I think it's safe to assume they're not working on 2 batches of PvE skills to be introduced in the near future (EotN aside)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard Mode factsheet

Increased Title Ranks

* Advance your rank as a Sunspear, gaining powerful new skills tailored to your profession along the way.
* Increase your might against the minions of Abaddon by progressing through the ranks of the Lightbringer title track.

How's that?

btw, I'm Eerie Moss on gww

Amon Warrior

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19 May 2007 at 10:55 - 127

Thanks.

I understand that there was a context into the statement - making it reasonable not to indicate all the connections explicitly.

But at a given moment not everyone is able (others don't even want) to be aware of the correct information, and people might miss the context.

I think that in places such as these, where old and new meet and words are the only point of contact, clearer information would benefit understanding; highlighting the context of a question and not just based on implicit knowledge.

I know that this is not easy to do ALL the time, and that's why is so fortunate to have users such as eremos to give a helping hand and such a considerate Community Relations Manager and Team.

Cheers!

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

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19 May 2007 at 17:55 - 128

wow mid june?oh well, might be worth it by then.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

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20 May 2007 at 06:20 - 129

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadis

Pester him for information on what these skills are exactly to share with us. Teasers never hurt, you know.

Excellent idea! Let me see if we can do one of those "These are the skill changes that are coming" types of Dev Updates. I'd love to share more info, so I'll see if that is at all possible.

Now, I'll try this again because it's easy to make the assumption you're making sense, when perhaps you are less clear than you believe yourself to be:

By mid-June, we will release the Sunspear skills.
The Sunspear Skills are PvE-only skills.
The Sunspear Skills will be specific to a certain profession. In other words, there will be a Warrior Sunspear Skill, an Assassin Sunspear Skill, etc.

In GW:EN, we will have more, new PvE-only skills.

At least some of the PvE-only skills in GW:EN will not be specific to a certain profession. That is, like a Res Signet, any profession can use certain of these skills.

I hope that is helpful, as I sure don't want to confuse anyone.

eremos

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Join Date: Dec 2006

South Africa

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20 May 2007 at 06:33 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Now, I'll try this again because it's easy to make the assumption you're making sense, when perhaps you are less clear than you believe yourself to be:

By mid-June, we will release the Sunspear skills.
The Sunspear Skills are PvE-only skills.
The Sunspear Skills will be specific to a certain profession. In other words, there will be a Warrior Sunspear Skill, an Assassin Sunspear Skill, etc.

In GW:EN, we will have more, new PvE-only skills.[LIST]

Only one skill each? Not including me personally, but I think a lot of people were thinking these would form part of the long-awaited Mesmer buffs.

Just a heads-up.

JeniM

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Join Date: May 2007

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20 May 2007 at 07:42 - 131

Thanks for the info and i hope they rank dependent for power

prism2525

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The Republic of Sky Pirates

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20 May 2007 at 09:06 - 132

I bet the poor mesmers will get the fewest number of skills... again.

I don't play one but I do pity those poor chaps.

Tiny Killer

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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20 May 2007 at 09:11 - 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by eremos

Only one skill each? Not including me personally, but I think a lot of people were thinking these would form part of the long-awaited Mesmer buffs.

Just a heads-up.

Call me crazy, but I think most would have thought the Mesmer buff would happen when the Mesmer skills are changed.

Onarik Amrak

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20 May 2007 at 12:37 - 134

Will the new Sunspear skills be effective (as in do something) to every creature in Guild Wars? Or will they only work in Elona?

Ravious

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Servants of Fortuna

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20 May 2007 at 14:02 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by eremos

Only one skill each? Not including me personally, but I think a lot of people were thinking these would form part of the long-awaited Mesmer buffs.

Just a heads-up.

Why would they buff mesmers in one Campaign with a skill (or skills) related to a title rather than looking at the core mesmer?

Elena

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20 May 2007 at 14:12 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Will the new Sunspear skills be effective (as in do something) to every creature in Guild Wars? Or will they only work in Elona?

i highly bet they will work anywhere except when solo'ing "you never fight alone"

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

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20 May 2007 at 15:06 - 137

I see farming potential with PvE only skills (8 skills in bar just PvE only skills). Unless they limited them somehow or are so balanced that those skills are not always superior compared to normal ones.

Amon Warrior

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20 May 2007 at 15:14 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I hope that is helpful

ROLEPLAYING ALERT! ROLEPLAYING ALERT!

I thank you thee, Milady of the Gray (for whom bards sing and players gather) for thy enlightened response...

As soon as thy fellowship conjure most fitting option, I shall bash myself with the sword of fools! Such is the penalty for those who doubt probity and succumb to unbecoming muddle...

END OF ROLEPLAYING (Back to inane self)

Yay! Sunspear PVE-only/profession-related/fair-bet to be release in mid-June - brand new skills!!!!!!!! W00t!

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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20 May 2007 at 17:28 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Excellent idea! Let me see if we can do one of those "These are the skill changes that are coming" types of Dev Updates. I'd love to share more info, so I'll see if that is at all possible.

Now, I'll try this again because it's easy to make the assumption you're making sense, when perhaps you are less clear than you believe yourself to be:

By mid-June, we will release the Sunspear skills.
The Sunspear Skills are PvE-only skills.
The Sunspear Skills will be specific to a certain profession. In other words, there will be a Warrior Sunspear Skill, an Assassin Sunspear Skill, etc.

In GW:EN, we will have more, new PvE-only skills.

At least some of the PvE-only skills in GW:EN will not be specific to a certain profession. That is, like a Res Signet, any profession can use certain of these skills.

I hope that is helpful, as I sure don't want to confuse anyone.

*hugs Gaile* SHE HAS SPOKEN.

=D

Well, now I have somethign to look foward to. =D

The Great Al

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Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

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20 May 2007 at 17:42 - 140

I'm pretty sure it was said that the mesmer buffing won't be related to the sunspear skills...not sure, though.

Also, an extra 2 months to balance 1 skill for each profession? these must be some interesting skills.

But regardless, thanks Gaile..and welcome back

semantic

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Join Date: Feb 2005

20 May 2007 at 20:22 - 141

I've gotten the impression from other communication on the subject (sorry no link) that there's a general skill balance coming out then, so they must be testing it all together.

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

21 May 2007 at 12:55 - 142

So.... we're going to be getting new profession-specific PvE skills.... but they are going to be based on Sunspear rank (necessitating a period of grinding through Nightfall before they can effectively be used, and totally off-limits to non-Nightfallers).

No mention of Lightbringer... which is just as well I suppose.

GW:EN is going to bring more non-class-specific PvE only skills.... like Res Signet.
Yes... like Res Signet.
I'm forseeing things which end up being either effectively useless.... or otherwise nerfing the class boundaries.

And on top of this, what is not being mentioned is that I'm betting all this is buffering us for a major skill-nerf amongst the other skills... a means of shutting us up while the PvP QQers have their day and all the skills we're used to using again get rampaged all over...

Y'know... I kinda fail to see how this is actually a good thing.
I'm forseeing problems.... loads of problems.