55 Necro HM farms! (lots of pictures)

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Leave from Gate of Madness for Domain of Secrets to farm Exuro IIRC

TarcellaCella

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco
lightbringer won't affect these runs at all, i just happened to have it up at the time. Thank you for the response Just thought i'd say that when i continued to try this build of yours in the hidden city, i'm starting to get the hang of it, i just need a bit more practise, that's all.
Thanks for the great help with the guide, i among many others are very grateful ^^

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

taco will you confirm blood4bloods reply?

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerboy72
taco will you confirm blood4bloods reply? No but i will, i've been farming this for quite a while, it's very easy and you can get some nice points from the titans there too while in hard mode.

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

whoots, thanks guys.

snodaard

snodaard

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

[Uni]

Mo/

Fow solo doesn't work anymore in my place,
that stupid monk keeps healing his self with word of healing...
stupid skill balance

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

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Quote:
Originally Posted by snodaard
Fow solo doesn't work anymore in my place,
that stupid monk keeps healing his self with word of healing...
stupid skill balance Take out mending and replace with defile flesh

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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to be honest, you don't even need defile flesh. if you position the warriors right, and you keep SS on a war and SS+IP on the monk, he'll still drop.

The Far Shooter

The Far Shooter

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Teutonic Monks [Holy]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by snodaard
Fow solo doesn't work anymore in my place,
that stupid monk keeps healing his self with word of healing...
stupid skill balance He can't heal himself with WoH as WoH is target other ally heal.


[skill]Word of Healing[/skill]

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Far Shooter
He can't heal himself with WoH as WoH is target other ally heal.


[skill]Word of Healing[/skill] Not anymore. Guru skill tags are outdated. It was changed on the last update, WoH is not target other ally anymore

Imori Akari

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Celestial Arrows of the Phoenix [Arro]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
Not anymore. Guru skill tags are outdated. It was changed on the last update, WoH is not target other ally anymore Yeah I know -.- Some monk was spamming it in RA earlier..was hard as heck to take him down.

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

im having problems in the hidden city with keeping energy, any advice?

Arnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

This has probably been asked, but what run can rack up the most cash and is overall the best?

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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as far as energy goes in the hidden city, you need to tank an entire side of the chamber you start in for a safe energy pool. after that, take big groups.

as far as the money / hr, it depends on way too much to get reliable figures. how many ectos will i get? shards? rare skinned golds? perfect mods? etc...
i'm sure i could get a very rough estimate, but, depending on your luck, it may be totally off-target to you.

Arnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Well which run can rack up most merch items (excluding rare golds and ectos, etc)

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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i fill up my inventory every run i do in Kinya province.

The Far Shooter

The Far Shooter

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Teutonic Monks [Holy]

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Me too. I use SV.

FreshFeesh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

Children of Bayushi

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Again I wanted to say thanks -- I wasn't so sure about this build (and was feeling a slight disheartened after spending the gold for the 55 build on my new armour) but a few runs after picking up SV have certainly changed me into a big fan.

I'm still stretching out and exploring where I can and cannot farm, as well as explore. I did have a few remaining questions though:

With this build (any of the ones posted or perhaps something new), what areas have you cleared in Hard Mode? I only ask because it seems like there are a number of locations where this would be difficult, even if the farming is easy (outside Serenity Temple is what comes to mind -- Storm Riders still give me problems in large groups).

I would also enjoy seeing your path / screen shots through the Underworld. It seems everywhere I go the Mesmers one-shot me with their anti-enchantment spells.

Kapt Krunch

Kapt Krunch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

VT

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Hey Fuzzy great guide! I finally got my Necro levled and ready to go. I tried the UW run last night. (I normally use w/Rt VWK build) and it took me about 6tries with the Aatxes to get it right. The biggest problem i had was timing. Initially i would hit PS HB SS and suffering then hit mending and some times they would not interrupt it and then my timing was so far behind that i'd get interrupted when trying to reload PS. My big question is when do you use SB? Is that just incase something like this happens as a backup?

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

spirit bond helps when healing breeze isn't enough to heal you (group of 5 smites ugh)

BTW can you solo fow HM anymore? I've noticed you can't solo since they buffed woh up. The monks wont die because they can heal themself up so much with woh.

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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you can still solo FoW in HM, at least with good grouping. i haven't had much of a problem since the update. Kcp suggested a change, however, if you're having trouble: switch Mending for Defile Flesh.
as far as solo-vanquishable areas go, i have cleared Deldrimor Bowl numerous times, haven't tried other places (no drive. :P ) but i'm sure there are vanquishable ones.

as far as the Underworld goes: first off, i highly suggest checking out Pariah Hellfire's thread on the UW... iz gud. to be perfectly honest, i rarely enter the UW in HM anymore. just too tedious. NM is better monetarily anyway.

assassin of the night

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

GEAR

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ok i Q dose Spirit bond even work because its if you lose 60 hp and you only have 55 And did anyone else know mantids outside the province drop rubies? No Joke i just got one LOL

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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Spirit Bond calculates its damage counter (60) before Protective Spirit, so yes, it works. Mantids drop rubies because it's theorized that anything that can drop materials has a tiny chance of a ruby drop.

FreshFeesh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

Children of Bayushi

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Would it be possible to try and get some pictures of your UW run up? I'm having some difficulty, even after reading the other awesome 55 Nero UW walkthrough. I suppose I just don't know where to start or what types of enemies I can safely attempt to drop

assassin of the night

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

GEAR

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any other GOOD factions 55 places to farm or just province i was wondering (since i dont have HM proh yet =(

FreshFeesh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

Children of Bayushi

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Do you have any luck in the Tomb of the Primeval Kings? If so I'd be interested in hearing your strategy.

finlan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

hi, i have been trying the hidden city run and i have been able to keep myself alive however i just could not kill anything. i checked if i have mistrust on me before i cast IP or SS and i think i did everthing right, can anyone help me out

MusicMan9317

MusicMan9317

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ant arc tick a

Bong

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just a note, in the 55 build with HB and SB, instead of running 9 healing and 9 prot, you can take one off healing and still have the same +7 HB and +3 mending as if you did 9, and you can take one off soul reaping and then you can put one more in prot which gives you longer PS and better SB, then have one left over for smiting prayers for balth spirit. the balth spirit may not be effected, but I'm pretty sure running 8 healing and 10 prot is actually better...let me know what you think

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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updated the guide to reflect the HB buff, sorry about being so slow on that one. anyway, i'm working on an easier way to farm UW, with SV. still in HM of course. if it works, it'll be in the guide.

hurric

hurric

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

BC

Tried UW but as soon as I got the quest I was able to clear 1 group but my energy got drained on the 2nd group after clearing aatxes and my PS got interrupted and died. How do you manage energy after taking quest? don't you get drained?

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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you do get e-denied, but grasps die so fast it's not a problem. if you pull with SS and autoattack the one with SS, 3 should die, if not, only keep up PS and SB and wand them.make sure you have at least 30 energy before pulling a group with SS, and don't spam your spells vs. grasps.

MusicMan9317

MusicMan9317

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ant arc tick a

Bong

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just wanted to say thanks for the guide!!! you've been a huge help =D

FreshFeesh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

Children of Bayushi

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For what it's worth, as an addition to this guide, farming in Scoundrel's Rise is extremely lucrative vs time spent. Every time I've gone I've received either two golds and/or a gold and a dye, on top of normal merch gear and materials. For the very short time it takes, it is a very profitable venture (though Deldrimor Bowl is still my favorite).

MusicMan9317

MusicMan9317

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ant arc tick a

Bong

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I've only tried fow on normal mode, and when I run the fow build I find it extremely difficult to kill the monk. I killed it on one run, but most of the time I get it down to just the monk even though I'm doing all of the things that you said I should do, IP monk ss warrior then ss another warrior etc. Is it actually easier to kill them in hard mode because they attack faster or something?

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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i've found it nigh impossible to kill shadow monks in Normal Mode, but they're Easy in Hard Mode because (you guessed it!) the warriors attack so damn fast.

MusicMan9317

MusicMan9317

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ant arc tick a

Bong

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ok now my problem is everything else dies and only the monks are left...it keeps happening with the second group, the pair of monks and shadow beasts, the beasts die off before the monks can die, and I'm only IPing one monk

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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if you want to kill those groups of two beasts, two monks (i just avoid them, they're a true pain) you'll need one or two warriors from nearby ggroups as energy and SS batteries.

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

you might want to add the titans near exuro, there fairly easy with ss and ip, tons of them can be cleared, and the shadow ppl if you keep a cover ench on. The mesmers like to use shatter ench.

Felano

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

I'll Vanquish Your [Mom]

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1st Note: Great guide! It helped me so much money wise. I can actually farm something for once AND I finally have enough money for my other character's farm builds.

Quick question, Could you possibly set up a solo build for Gates of Kryta HM? For some reason it seems as though there are just so many of them that SB ends way too early.

stipe567

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

I see that this is a great guide but i have only Prophecies so which skill can replace Spirit Bond. I just want to farm Uw or FoW. So please if you can tell me great solo skill build only for Prophecies. Thanks in advance.