Update July 17th

Aejorii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

SF, CA

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Eisei
* The Party panel now automatically resizes vertically to match the contents of the panel.
* The Party panel now maintains the same position it was placed in while in outposts and missions.
* The Party panel join frame has been moved to the bottom of the panel.
* Allies and pets are now listed in collapsible groups in the Party panel while in a mission


ARGH
for the love of dwayna and all other that is holy
REVERT, atleast were it has the same position inside and outside
it completely fsck's up my layout
i dont wanna have to move my windows around every time i zone
i love to monk , its my favorite proffession, so i have a very special setup on my interface, this just screwed it all up, BOOOOO
This needs to be quoted more.

Yaga Philipe

Yaga Philipe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

R/

Quote:
Party Search

* Whenever a party enters Party Search, an automatic message will now broadcast to players in that party’s current district. For example, if Flamingo Avenger sets “glf monk” as the party’s description in the Party Search panel, “Flamingo Avenger: Party Search – glf monk” will appear in the Chat panel of players in the same district as Flamingo Avenger.

* Whenever a party leader broadcasts “glf,” “lfg,” lfp,” “wtb,” “wts,” or “wtt” in All chat, that party will now be entered into Party Search automatically with that chat message used as the party's description.

User Interface

* The Trade panel now displays the name as well as the icon of trade items present in the trade cart, and a warning message now displays when the person you are trading with changes the offer.
* The Party panel now automatically resizes vertically to match the contents of the panel.
* The Party panel now maintains the same position it was placed in while in outposts and missions.
* The Party panel join frame has been moved to the bottom of the panel.
* Allies and pets are now listed in collapsible groups in the Party panel while in a mission.
I love those changes. I always hated it how the party panel was always messed up when I loaded a new town or something and I would have to fix it. The Party Search changes sound good as well.

The Legg

The Legg

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

RAF Lyneham, UK

We Are Gozu ( Gozu )

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Then explain to me why, when you first install the game, you have to download every time you go to a new town or outpost. If it did what you said, you should already have most of the data for the towns and outposts, and only have to download the first time you log in.

Unless you use the -image command at the end of the command prompt for laoding guild wars this will happen until you have loaded the full content from the gw servers.

Any big update it is advisable to use this command. It will ensure you rarely have long loading times under normal circumsatnces.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Sorry for the huge download. I'm not quite sure why it was so large, but I figure maybe we're rollling out super-secret content for next Wintersday or something. (No, I'm only kidding! )

Anyway, there are some issues I need to share with you, for instance, graphical bugs like:
  • Character errors (Some of them are sorta funny looking)
  • Changes to the position of the interface elements
  • Strange text in the territory drop-down menu
We're working to fix those things. The territory switching drop-down will give you an Err 007 if you try to move from NA to EU districts or vice-versa. It's not intended to work, it was just part of something we were fiddling with on the Development Server and somehow it all got mixed up into the Live Server. These are all no harm, no foul, non-long-lasting issues, but we'll tidy them up in a new build out today/tonight.

In fact, I understand the Live Build is in the oven right now.
Thanks for the update Gaile...any word on extending the text allowed in the Party Search Menu? I love the addition of this but it is barely useful with such a short text

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
Game is done downloading and very playable for me.

Anyway... why are some people seemingly avoiding the party search? People are now selling things starting their lines with "W T S" instead of "WTS". Jesus. What the hell is wrong with people? The party search gives me a nice overview of what people are selling and buying. And I'm talking about Temple of Ages, regarding the ecto and shard trading. JEEBUS!!!
They are doing that because the amount of allowed text is too short. For instance, you can't write "WTS Urgoz long bow 100k +20 ecto" as you will end up with "WTS Urgoz long bow 100k". Yes I know, bad example, but you get the idea.

As well, you can only sell one thing at a time, so as soon as you type a second WTS item, it replaces the first. Anyone that does any volume of trading would be totally wasting their time if they could only sell one item at a time.

tox_169

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Auckland, New Zealand

At work now so I can't see the updates.

Probably they uploaded the GW:EN data early seeing as the Prerelease Bonus Packs will be released this Friday, July 20th.

1gb update, is it? Good thing I spent last weekend redownloading my dat file, I trimmed it down from a bloated 3.7 gb to 2.8bg. (1st redownload/reinstall since starting GW on December 2005)

After this update I'll be back to 3+ gb then, but at least it's "lean" and not bloated data.

EDIT: It was announced in the log-in screen that they'd be doing some server maintenance, this might be the culprit that's affecting everyone's download speeds?

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

DoA is a lot easier now in NM. although the non environmental effects in NM mean that for foundry you cant kill your pet.

I really dont like the new tyria map when zoomed out. It has two nasty black bars each side instead of the normal widescreen I used to have

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wow. At the rate this update is downloading, It makes Guru look fast!

Besides, this looks like it also contains the preload of EotN content. 6%= 52 Megs? Looks like alot more then DoA Fixes.

lucifer_uk

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

Have they just made a small change?
My client just downloaded an extra 3 files after I closed and reopened.

(I ran -image before)

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

So far, DoA isn't too bad. Me and my friend (who had horribly subpar Hero builds) were able to get pretty far until I overaggroed.

rcollins779x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

R/

Yes minor fixes from the original update. Graphical issues and such.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Well, they've now actually noted the change they made to the name of the European English District.

They also added a new glitch in the /bowhead emote for the Male Paragon. They just stand their rubbing their arm.

jammerpa

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

LOL, after waiting an hour for all the downloads, my toon loads in my GH. I then go to storage and just as I clicked on it, I get the gw.exe box that says I have to close the program down. GG Anet, nice update!

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
I really dont like the new tyria map when zoomed out. It has two nasty black bars each side instead of the normal widescreen I used to have
The black bars have always been there for anyone running a widescreen monitor. I had black bars with the "old" map when playing at 1680x1050, for example.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

It looks like they're working on a kick vote system. This was found by someone while they were looking for the new icon for Whirlwind Attack.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:Kickbuttons.jpg

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

I dislike the fact that I cannot size my party window vertically. While I do see the point in making the update to it, for people that heavily modify their interface it really screws it up. I'd really prefer there to be an option to turn autosizing on/off the party window instead. If that cannot be done it should resize automatically but still allow the user to extend vertically after loading.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Yup, I've always had black bars with this widescreen. 1680 x1050 resolution as well. Though annoying, I can live with it

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
It looks like they're working on a kick vote system. This was found by someone while they were looking for the new icon for Whirlwind Attack.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:Kickbuttons.jpg

That's very interesting and a godsend if that's what it is.

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
The territory switching drop-down will give you an Err 007 if you try to move from NA to EU districts or vice-versa. It's not intended to work, it was just part of something we were fiddling with on the Development Server and somehow it all got mixed up into the Live Server.
please fiddle with it some more and implement it..
in my eyes the favor system was and is the largest mistake in gw's history

Zomgyogi

Zomgyogi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

In a park

Whats with all the fuss about the download. Took me about 1 minute to download it.

LethalHands

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
please fiddle with it some more and implement it..
in my eyes the favor system was and is the largest mistake in gw's history
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Passage...the_Underworld
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Passage...Fissure_of_Woe

Anytime man.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoticCoyote
The black bars have always been there for anyone running a widescreen monitor. I had black bars with the "old" map when playing at 1680x1050, for example.
I run GW at 2560X1600 and never had black bars. It's like watching pan and scan on Plamsa.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zomgyogi
Whats with all the fuss about the download. Took me about 1 minute to download it.
500Mb+ in a minute? What connection do you have?

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
500Mb+ in a minute? What connection do you have?
not everyone is doing -image to download it all at once.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Please change the party window back........
This is very annoying, why do they always change stuff to the interface , that NOBODY asked for?

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

I'm still waiting for them to revert the change made to the attribute point allocation section in the Skills and Attributes panel. Putting the up/down arrows on the left side is unnatural for most people, it just feels backwards. There was nothing wrong with the previous layout. You can't even quickly check if a certain chara has all of his or her attribute points without zeroing all the attribute lines. There is no longer a little indicator window you can hover over, just a counter for currently unused points.

However, I do like the auto-resizing Party panel. Looks cleaner and more well-designed. Now if only the Party Search window were as intuitive as its Party panel cousin...

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

its been 1 hour and i'm still at the login screen downloading all the content, so far its @ 524 megs and climbing

i recommend ppl just leave it at the login screen and download all the content now, when the GWEN servers go live you can just buy the update through the online store and your ready to go, and the best part is you dont have to download maps as you go, because you already downloaded the content before hand.

shadowduck

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

OMG

Mo/Me

I agree with some of the other posters..

The zoomed out map for Tyria looks stupid with the black on both sides. They had to do this because it was stretched vertical so unless they redesign it completely it was the only way the map would not look distorted due to a image stretched the wrong way.

The party window changes are maddening. Just like autotargeting was. GIVE US AN OPTION, not just force a change on the players than add an option later when everyone bitches.

Autotargeting was changed again on this update or last one... 2 options now.. Monsters and NPCs.

Party search is useless.. always has been with the stupid limit on text.. now its even worse with the spam Party Search: every other message.

Come on ANet.. think out things and maybe come to the players for feedback before making such changes.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by explodemyheart
YES. FINALLY.
/agree

never expected them to change this but now i dont have to F around with the damn party window!

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

I've seen America have favor more than I've seen those at the traders.

Muspellsheimr

Muspellsheimr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I've seen America have favor more than I've seen those at the traders.
Because nobody sells them to the traders - to easy to sell them to players directly.

Go to ToA, you will be able to pick them up for aprox. 2k - 2.5k each easily.

Or you could play in hard mode and hope some drop...

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muspellsheimr
Because nobody sells them to the traders - to easy to sell them to players directly.

Go to ToA, you will be able to pick them up for aprox. 2k - 2.5k each easily.

Or you could play in hard mode and hope some drop...
Then damn, I'm having some pretty bad luck there, then. Very rarely do I see someone selling one in US dists.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

people (ok me) go to ToA right *after* American loses favor to sell them. Because....there are some groups that were just about to head out before that happened. I only charge 2k though.

They also drop in NM FOW/UW (in addition to bosses in HM)

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Change back the party window. Fix observer mode. Party search update=annoying in local chat.

Oh, and stop doing almost worthless updates like this one and do a skill balance.

Spartan Link

Spartan Link

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

furthest country you can think of down south

None

A/

o.O aint nothing wrong with the update if you all ask me
the new party window isnt so bad the max number in a party is eight anyway make sense to change the vertical option to horizontal and i havent had half the problems people had here

Kayelyyb

Kayelyyb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Founder of Nerfs Are [Whak]

N/Me

Curse you i like the idea of the possible kick buttons but i do see flaw.most runners will tell u to pay say on droks run say 3k per run pay 1k snake dance 1k camp rankor 1k at droks or something close to that now what keeps them from taking ur 1k at snakedance and kicking you?

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The huge file size is likely background downloading for the GW:EN Pre-release, although it's a bit early for that...

Anyways, any comments from me about the update would interpreted as negative somehow, ergo I will not comment.
Yea it is a little early, although (afaik) July 20th is the set date for the release of the Pre-Release Pack, which is a few days from now (on a Friday here in Australia).

How long in advance do pre-release players have access to the game prior to it officially beginning worldwide? This could be preperation for that in perticular. I could see them doing updates in small chunks, rather than doing it in one huge chunk of files shrtly before release. For all we know, another 'big update' could be planned in the future

Big isnt always useful

Crazy Kalibanov

Crazy Kalibanov

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Black Parades

Personally I hate the new party list. As a monk I find it very awkward. I particularly don't like the collapsible ally area. If you accidentally click on the area between the party and the allies, the allies list disappears -- then gg if you were trying to infuse the ghostly.

I also despise the party list resizing. I find this distracting and it upsets my aim when I'm trying to click on someone.

Please give us the option of putting this back the way it was.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelyyb
Curse you i like the idea of the possible kick buttons but i do see flaw.most runners will tell u to pay say on droks run say 3k per run pay 1k snake dance 1k camp rankor 1k at droks or something close to that now what keeps them from taking ur 1k at snakedance and kicking you?
If they are others being run as well, they would have to agree to kick you. So just don't get run single by shifty people.

Last Roman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Black Parades

Mo/

Exactly Crazy

i like most monks am very picky about the way i have my party list size and find it's collapsable allies list very annoying