Change to Favor System :wow:
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http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/pvp/favorupdate.php
Changes to Favor of the Gods
When adventurers accomplish heroic deeds, the gods grant blessings to their world, known as "favor of the gods." Soon, adventurers will have new ways to earn this blessing.
Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to a specific "region" of players based on events in the Hall of Heroes. As of August 9, 2007, the favor of the gods will affect all players in the game world, regardless of where they live in the real world.
Earning Achievements
Favor will now be granted based on character-driven achievements. Each time a character achieves the maximum rank in a qualifying title, the world will be one step closer to gaining the gods' favor.
When a character earns one of these achievements, that character's name and accomplishment will broadcast in seven locations: the Temple of the Ages, Lion's Arch, the Great Temple of Balthazar, Kaineng Center, Zin Ku Corridor, Kamadan, and the Chantry of Secrets.
After twenty announcements have been made, all Guild Wars players in all territories will be granted the gods' favor for one hour. If another character earns an achievement during that time, the favor of the gods will be extended for an additional three minutes.
The first twenty-one qualifying titles are:
Survivor
Defender of Ascalon
Legendary Cartographer
Legendary Guardian
Legendary Skill Hunter
Legendary Vanquisher
Sunspear
Lightbringer
Kurzick
Luxon
Lucky
Unlucky
Gamer
Drunkard
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom
Sweet Tooth
Champion
Hero
Gladiator
Commander
Additional qualifying titles will be added upon the release of Guild Wars: Eye of the North.
Favor in Explorable Areas
When the world gains the gods' favor, statues to the gods will light up at specific locations in explorable areas. There's a limit to the number of these statues in the world. Each statue is located near a resurrection shrine or a gate between explorable areas.
When you find one of these statues, your character can kneel in front of it to summon an avatar of that god. After speaking to the avatar, your character can exchange gold for a temporary bonus. Possible bonuses include a morale boost, more Health, or a higher attribute. The bonus expires when you map travel or use a gate.
Special Realms
While the world has the favor of the gods, characters can travel to two special realms: the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe. To get to one of these special locations, your character will need to kneel before a statue of Grenth or Balthazar. These statues can be found in one of the following locations: the Temple of Ages (from the original Guild Wars campaign), Zin Ku Corridor (from Factions), or Chantry of Secrets (from Nightfall).
If your character kneels before one of these Grenth statues, that character can summon a spirit called the Voice of Grenth. By spending one platinum, your character can enter the Underworld, along with the rest of your party.
If your character kneels before Balthazar instead, you'll summon an avatar of the Lord of War. After spending one platinum, your party can travel to the Fissure of Woe.
Changes to the Hall of Heroes
Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to one region of players, depending on events in the Hall of Heroes. When a team of characters defended the Hall five consecutive times, all players from that region gained the favor of the gods.
Although maintaining control of the Hall no longer has an effect on the favor of the gods, the game will still globally announce when a team has defended that arena in PvP.
Changes to Favor of the Gods
When adventurers accomplish heroic deeds, the gods grant blessings to their world, known as "favor of the gods." Soon, adventurers will have new ways to earn this blessing.
Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to a specific "region" of players based on events in the Hall of Heroes. As of August 9, 2007, the favor of the gods will affect all players in the game world, regardless of where they live in the real world.
Earning Achievements
Favor will now be granted based on character-driven achievements. Each time a character achieves the maximum rank in a qualifying title, the world will be one step closer to gaining the gods' favor.
When a character earns one of these achievements, that character's name and accomplishment will broadcast in seven locations: the Temple of the Ages, Lion's Arch, the Great Temple of Balthazar, Kaineng Center, Zin Ku Corridor, Kamadan, and the Chantry of Secrets.
After twenty announcements have been made, all Guild Wars players in all territories will be granted the gods' favor for one hour. If another character earns an achievement during that time, the favor of the gods will be extended for an additional three minutes.
The first twenty-one qualifying titles are:
Survivor
Defender of Ascalon
Legendary Cartographer
Legendary Guardian
Legendary Skill Hunter
Legendary Vanquisher
Sunspear
Lightbringer
Kurzick
Luxon
Lucky
Unlucky
Gamer
Drunkard
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom
Sweet Tooth
Champion
Hero
Gladiator
Commander
Additional qualifying titles will be added upon the release of Guild Wars: Eye of the North.
Favor in Explorable Areas
When the world gains the gods' favor, statues to the gods will light up at specific locations in explorable areas. There's a limit to the number of these statues in the world. Each statue is located near a resurrection shrine or a gate between explorable areas.
When you find one of these statues, your character can kneel in front of it to summon an avatar of that god. After speaking to the avatar, your character can exchange gold for a temporary bonus. Possible bonuses include a morale boost, more Health, or a higher attribute. The bonus expires when you map travel or use a gate.
Special Realms
While the world has the favor of the gods, characters can travel to two special realms: the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe. To get to one of these special locations, your character will need to kneel before a statue of Grenth or Balthazar. These statues can be found in one of the following locations: the Temple of Ages (from the original Guild Wars campaign), Zin Ku Corridor (from Factions), or Chantry of Secrets (from Nightfall).
If your character kneels before one of these Grenth statues, that character can summon a spirit called the Voice of Grenth. By spending one platinum, your character can enter the Underworld, along with the rest of your party.
If your character kneels before Balthazar instead, you'll summon an avatar of the Lord of War. After spending one platinum, your party can travel to the Fissure of Woe.
Changes to the Hall of Heroes
Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to one region of players, depending on events in the Hall of Heroes. When a team of characters defended the Hall five consecutive times, all players from that region gained the favor of the gods.
Although maintaining control of the Hall no longer has an effect on the favor of the gods, the game will still globally announce when a team has defended that arena in PvP.
Darksun
pretty interesting!
I wonder if they'll have to balance it (add more time) or if people get the titles enough to keep it going. Titles only happen once in a great while (per person) so..
I wonder if they'll have to balance it (add more time) or if people get the titles enough to keep it going. Titles only happen once in a great while (per person) so..
drekmonger
A bit confusing. For the titles with multiple steps (like the PvP titles), will the announcement occur for each step or just the initial title?
HayesA
About time they fixed it. PVP shouldn't influence PVE. Ever. D:
Thank you Anet!
I loves you!
Thank you Anet!
Killmur
I would prefer if HoH wins determined which region got access to FoW\UW over this crap. Sorry but making us players grind for access and only for a 1 hour seems ludicrous and lazy. I guess any hope of casually farming there is now dead for me. At least HM SS\SB farming is still profitable.
HayesA
No way, coz Europe ALWAYS has favor. This way we at least can, you know, have access during the middle of the day? Much more fun.
TheRaven
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Originally Posted by drekmonger
A bit confusing. For the titles with multiple steps (like the PvP titles), will the announcement occur for each step or just the initial title?
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Only when someone achieves the max rank of that title.
Hmm, sounds interesting. We've been asking for a change to the favor system for quite sometime now. I don't know yet how well this will work. We'll have to wait and see.
1 downside I see to it. Global announcement that "Player X has achieved max Treasure Hunter Title". Player X is suddenly beseeched with 1000 PMs saying "wtg!", "congrats!", "Get a Life, you geek!!!"
Killmur
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Originally Posted by TheRaven
1 downside I see to it. Global announcement that "Player X has achieved max Treasure Hunter Title". Player X is suddenly beseeched with 1000 PMs saying "wtg!", "congrats!", "Get a Life, you geek!!!"
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Darksun
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Originally Posted by drekmonger
A bit confusing. For the titles with multiple steps (like the PvP titles), will the announcement occur for each step or just the initial title?
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lyra_song
im confused!
Blackest Rose
I'll reserve judgement until I see the frequency and amount of time domains are open....
Definitely a good thing to pry apart PVE dependance on PVP events, just concerned about frequency of open FOW/UW gates....
Definitely a good thing to pry apart PVE dependance on PVP events, just concerned about frequency of open FOW/UW gates....
Killmur
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
im confused!
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Shanaeri Rynale
There has to be a finite number of players, getting a finite number of titles, wont wont favor run out eventually?
Seems a really weird system. Would be better to add if a character has more than x maxed titles they get favor for longer as a permanent basis. Also ecto prices will shoot up IMHO
Seems a really weird system. Would be better to add if a character has more than x maxed titles they get favor for longer as a permanent basis. Also ecto prices will shoot up IMHO
upier
This I gotta see!
thezed
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Originally Posted by Blackest Rose
I'll reserve judgement until I see the frequency and amount of time domains are open....
Definitely a good thing to pry apart PVE dependance on PVP events, just concerned about frequency of open FOW/UW gates.... |
MSecorsky
So... getting vanquisher isn't good enough, but eating a bunch of sweets is?
What the hell are the gods thinking?!
Elonan Vanquisher should count, considering how long vanquishing takes.
What the hell are the gods thinking?!
Elonan Vanquisher should count, considering how long vanquishing takes.
lucifer_uk
Lol this seems a very strange system of working favour to me.
Never mind, if ectos go up thats a good thing.
Never mind, if ectos go up thats a good thing.
Vermilion
I don't think anyone anticipated this kind of change. Really, wth.
Symeon
This is the weirdest change I could possibly have imagined. Basically, another grind incentive from ANet to keep players busy until GW2. I guess it had to be expected.
JGaff
This will cause some initial excitement, though I have a feeling that this will shake the markets up a bit on Ecto/Shards. Then, we can all sit back and watch the whining threads ( I Like cheap ecto, etc)
I haven't played in awhile, so this might be worth logging in to see...
I haven't played in awhile, so this might be worth logging in to see...
zwei2stein
This is ... weird?
There is limited amount of player who (want to & have time to) grind such goals, and they usually already did most of those titles anyway, leaving wery little to fuell favor.
Its not like people will make go and make characters to farm elite explorers for favor.
Attempt at rework is good, but this just opens whole different can of worms.
Besides, we will have very good measurement on how much gw is dead
titles per day ratio.
There is limited amount of player who (want to & have time to) grind such goals, and they usually already did most of those titles anyway, leaving wery little to fuell favor.
Its not like people will make go and make characters to farm elite explorers for favor.
Attempt at rework is good, but this just opens whole different can of worms.
Besides, we will have very good measurement on how much gw is dead

Killmur
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Originally Posted by King Symeon
This is the weirdest change I could possibly have imagined. Basically, another grind incentive from ANet to keep players busy until GW2. I guess it had to be expected.
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Big_Iron
This will be an interesting change. People have been begging for a change for ages. I'll withhold judgment to see how it plays out.
FireFox
This is lame, really, I like the old system better.
Pkest
Seems like it ultimately puts a finite cap on how long fow and uw will be playable without scrolls. Since there will be diminishing new players and people making new characters just to get titles doesn't this mean that someday favor just won't happen anymore?
Lorden
Grinding FTL
Loviatar
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1 hour entrance window stay as long as you want.
just because the door you entered shuts doesent mean it boots you at the same time.
example is someone who enters at minute 59 are they going to kick them when the door shuts 1 minute later?
cheers
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Originally Posted by Killmur
I would prefer if HoH wins determined which region got access to FoW\UW over this crap. Sorry but making us players grind for access and only for a 1 hour seems ludicrous and lazy. I guess any hope of casually farming there is now dead for me.
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just because the door you entered shuts doesent mean it boots you at the same time.
example is someone who enters at minute 59 are they going to kick them when the door shuts 1 minute later?
cheers
themeteor
WHAT? max titles? That seems so umm... WHAT?
that is basically what is going through my mind at the moment
that is basically what is going through my mind at the moment
VitisVinifera
I've always been for unlinking PvP and PvE........but this.......it has obvious problems.
Yes, it encourages more grind.....but it's always gring for *someone else* to do, so noone will really do it just for the sake of gaining favor. Also, Shanaeri beat me to what first came to mind. What happens when people stop maxing titles? I've almost maxed all the titles I care to max, then I'm done with that damn grind. This will probably result in a total shutdown of access granted by this new system, much sooner than people expect.
Like so many other aspects, it's just too contrived and conditional. I see this as a source of much frustration........sorta like how it's always been.
edit:who gets paid to come up with these sorts of ideas?
Yes, it encourages more grind.....but it's always gring for *someone else* to do, so noone will really do it just for the sake of gaining favor. Also, Shanaeri beat me to what first came to mind. What happens when people stop maxing titles? I've almost maxed all the titles I care to max, then I'm done with that damn grind. This will probably result in a total shutdown of access granted by this new system, much sooner than people expect.
Like so many other aspects, it's just too contrived and conditional. I see this as a source of much frustration........sorta like how it's always been.
edit:who gets paid to come up with these sorts of ideas?
KamikazeChicken
There simply won't be enough people earning titles, so this change will eventually hit a brick wall, especially about 8 months of GW:EotN to GW2. Makes me glad I don't do FoW/UW. o.o
Omniclasm
This is a crap change. Goodjob at disconnecting it from PvP, but wow.
Zinger314
Didn't you guys know? Guild Wars is a new type of MMO: e-Peen MMO!
First, gaudy weapons from Elite Missions which have no practical use. Then, minipets. Then, Hall of Monuments (so other people can see your e-Peen). Then, at last, with this update, worldwide e-Peen showoff! Haha!
First, gaudy weapons from Elite Missions which have no practical use. Then, minipets. Then, Hall of Monuments (so other people can see your e-Peen). Then, at last, with this update, worldwide e-Peen showoff! Haha!
Enko
so no region will have favor in between these one hour slots? do they really think that titles are maxed that often?
FireFox
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Didn't you guys know? Guild Wars is a new type of MMO: e-Peen MMO!
First, gaudy weapons from Elite Missions which have no practical use. Then, minipets. Then, Hall of Monuments (so other people can see your e-Peen). Then, at last, with this update, worldwide e-Peen showoff! Haha! |
Theus
Guild Wars?
More like Farm Wars.
Is there any reason to play HA now?For fame from beating or playing FotM Builds?
/sigh What a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing terrible way of doing such a thing.
More like Farm Wars.
Is there any reason to play HA now?For fame from beating or playing FotM Builds?
/sigh What a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing terrible way of doing such a thing.
Killmur
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Originally Posted by Theus
Guild Wars?
More like Farm Wars. |
VitisVinifera
also, I predict a skyrocket in ecto/shard prices
Sarevok Thordin
Sorry Anet, can I ask you to keep the HA link favor system and run it alongside the other one?
Also, add a tab for gamewide broadcasts so there who aren't interested in favor don't have to put up with it.
Taiwan recently had favor, so Europe doesn't have it ALL THE TIME.
Also, add a tab for gamewide broadcasts so there who aren't interested in favor don't have to put up with it.
Taiwan recently had favor, so Europe doesn't have it ALL THE TIME.
Loviatar
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poor zingers wow server is down again as that is the only time he comes back here to snipe at GW
considering he is in love with the biggest item e peen game out there....WOW........i got my elite ......... mount to show off...........WOW.....i got my impress everybody item.......WOW.......the server went down still again so i will snipe GW some more
just WOW zinger just wow
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Didn't you guys know? Guild Wars is a new type of MMO: e-Peen MMO!
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considering he is in love with the biggest item e peen game out there....WOW........i got my elite ......... mount to show off...........WOW.....i got my impress everybody item.......WOW.......the server went down still again so i will snipe GW some more
just WOW zinger just wow
kradens
its says maxed out titles, i can already see a problem with this. i dont have a single maxed out title across my 10 pve characters.
OBVIOUSLY anet want us visiting FoW and UW less.
im going to reserve my opinion untill i hear about the drop rates inside FoW and UW. because rite now, the mediocre drops inside FoW and UW dont justify me bothering to max out a title.
OBVIOUSLY anet want us visiting FoW and UW less.
im going to reserve my opinion untill i hear about the drop rates inside FoW and UW. because rite now, the mediocre drops inside FoW and UW dont justify me bothering to max out a title.