Change to Favor System :wow:
Nexilinix
"Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to one region of players, depending on events in the Hall of Heroes. When a team of characters defended the Hall five consecutive times, all players from that region gained the favor of the gods."
sindex
It would have been better for them to have people pay gold for these bonuses when they did not have favor, and don’t pay when they did. It’s simple and it works; also it does not sound too complicated.
Bryant Again
Not much to say but holy shit! No where did I see this coming.
I guess we'll see how this plays out...When does this new system take effect? Or does it take effect nao??
I guess we'll see how this plays out...When does this new system take effect? Or does it take effect nao??
the Puppeteer
Why not just simply divide the 24h between the regions?
I MP I
LOL WUT???!!1 Favor based on titles? Honestly, most people I've talked to are getting the titles in the hopes that they might unlock something cool in GW2. Don't think this will really work but whatever. I'd rather get balthazar faction (like 10k it beats killing everything and waiting for one to drop imo) which I can trade for a scroll to UW/FoW same way luxon/kurzick faction gets you a scroll to the deep/urgoz.
AnnaCloud9
Hmmm...
It's just too bad many hardcore PvErs have already maxed out many of these titles long ago, and won't be able to even passively help gaining favor - so I'm not quite sure what the developers have in mind. Like someone mentioned before, won't favor eventually run out? And since I have to max out titles in conjunction with others across my region to enable this new system, I'm still not actually guaranteed a time spot to go to the FoW or UW. I might be the 13th person to cap a title...log out for the night...and come back the next day to learn had I stayed another 3 hours, I could have gone to the FoW.
Thankfully, I've never been all that excited about either place - it's always been a niche/farmer hangout, except for those few PUG groups that get together to see how fast even the simplest of organization can go wrong after you say "Don't talk to the ghost!", to which is replied, "Oh, you mean this one?" *click*
I'm all for separating church from state, I mean PvP from PvE, but this method has me scratching my head...
It's just too bad many hardcore PvErs have already maxed out many of these titles long ago, and won't be able to even passively help gaining favor - so I'm not quite sure what the developers have in mind. Like someone mentioned before, won't favor eventually run out? And since I have to max out titles in conjunction with others across my region to enable this new system, I'm still not actually guaranteed a time spot to go to the FoW or UW. I might be the 13th person to cap a title...log out for the night...and come back the next day to learn had I stayed another 3 hours, I could have gone to the FoW.
Thankfully, I've never been all that excited about either place - it's always been a niche/farmer hangout, except for those few PUG groups that get together to see how fast even the simplest of organization can go wrong after you say "Don't talk to the ghost!", to which is replied, "Oh, you mean this one?" *click*
I'm all for separating church from state, I mean PvP from PvE, but this method has me scratching my head...
Malice Black
See user title for my opinion.
Lord Feathers
Have mixed feelings about this myself. Although a P vs E player myself who only dabbles in P vs P..... I do believe that P vs P should not effect what happens to the P vs E aspect of the game. I really wonder though if eventually favor will be a hard thing to get as the game is expanded into yet another chapter and many players just simply stop chasing titles. Or will the Hall of Momuments be such a great thing in Eye of the North that they are assuming folks will be simply going for the titles ? I chase titles myself but how many P vs E folks don't ?
byteme!
Anet removed the "OLD" favor system because a lot of players could not gain access a lot of the time.
Anet is planning these changes because they are "in-the-know" that such changes "should" increase accessibility world wide. If anything they are the ones behind the wheel and will adjust things accordingly in any attempt to "increase" access. Too many of you are jumping to conclusion far too early and for the wrong reasons.
Also as far as "grinding" is concerned. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL GRIND FOR THIS PLANNED CHANGE. All these titles were in place before all of this and it hasn't changed. Also no one in their right mind would spend countless hours maxing "1" title just to give his fellow peers and himself 1 hour access to UW/FoW. Again I repeat, "Additional grind? What additional grind? You smoking something good?".
Anet is planning these changes because they are "in-the-know" that such changes "should" increase accessibility world wide. If anything they are the ones behind the wheel and will adjust things accordingly in any attempt to "increase" access. Too many of you are jumping to conclusion far too early and for the wrong reasons.
Also as far as "grinding" is concerned. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL GRIND FOR THIS PLANNED CHANGE. All these titles were in place before all of this and it hasn't changed. Also no one in their right mind would spend countless hours maxing "1" title just to give his fellow peers and himself 1 hour access to UW/FoW. Again I repeat, "Additional grind? What additional grind? You smoking something good?".
Yichi
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Originally Posted by Lord Feathers
Have mixed feelings about this myself. Although a P vs E player myself who only dabbles in P vs P..... I do believe that P vs P should not effect what happens to the P vs E aspect of the game. I really wonder though if eventually favor will be a hard thing to get as the game is expanded into yet another chapter and many players just simply stop chasing titles. Or will the Hall of Momuments be such a great thing in Eye of the North that they are assuming folks will be simply going for the titles ? I chase titles myself but how many P vs E folks don't ?
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distilledwill
I quite like this change, it doesnt force people to grind as thats always the players choice. Anet must have numbers on the amount of max titles attained per day/hour etc, otherwise they wouldnt be putting this in.
The unlinking of PvE and PvP is long overdue, so thats good. I do think its a shame you wont get to see your own announcement if, for example, you attain the legendary cartographer title out in an explorable area.
Also, I dont believe we will run out of titles to max; think of all the new players coming in with the addition of GWEN, it wont be as many as we had with NF as its an expansion and not a game, but they will keep the ball rolling. There will also be new titles. There are also old players with new characters every day, i imagine this will lead to the legendary survivor being max a fair amount.
The only beef i have with it is the lore based arguement:
"Balthazar is impressed with your ability to scoff down red bean cakes"
The unlinking of PvE and PvP is long overdue, so thats good. I do think its a shame you wont get to see your own announcement if, for example, you attain the legendary cartographer title out in an explorable area.
Also, I dont believe we will run out of titles to max; think of all the new players coming in with the addition of GWEN, it wont be as many as we had with NF as its an expansion and not a game, but they will keep the ball rolling. There will also be new titles. There are also old players with new characters every day, i imagine this will lead to the legendary survivor being max a fair amount.
The only beef i have with it is the lore based arguement:
"Balthazar is impressed with your ability to scoff down red bean cakes"
seut
i don't care, if the numbers add up to get a decent share of favor
i want to get favor, because of my actions in the game..
this is just another stupid "rely on somebody else" system
i want to get favor, because of my actions in the game..
this is just another stupid "rely on somebody else" system
AceeBlueEagle
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The only beef i have with it is the lore based arguement:
"Balthazar is impressed with your ability to scoff down red bean cakes" |
That and the Incorrigible Ale-Hound.
"Grenth buddy, hold my spot for Underworld please. I just maxed my drunkard title and I need a liver transplant. Be back in a bit..."
reetkever
Hmmm, I wonder if max titles would ever 'run out'...
ATM, the amount of maxed titles is going kinda fast, we're at like 6 already, in just a few minutes...
However, if more and more people max out titles, some day, it will take longer till someone maxes out a title...
And I'm a bit concerned about the 1 hour duration... When you get favor and you're in a mission, you have to finish that up first, then find a team, and THEN go in FoW/UW. By that time, the hour might be over. It also makes things more exciting when in FoW/UW. (You die? Wait another few hours...)
But for the rest, I'll be hoping this works out fine :3
ATM, the amount of maxed titles is going kinda fast, we're at like 6 already, in just a few minutes...
However, if more and more people max out titles, some day, it will take longer till someone maxes out a title...
And I'm a bit concerned about the 1 hour duration... When you get favor and you're in a mission, you have to finish that up first, then find a team, and THEN go in FoW/UW. By that time, the hour might be over. It also makes things more exciting when in FoW/UW. (You die? Wait another few hours...)
But for the rest, I'll be hoping this works out fine :3
FireChoice
I got the first point as Sah Rah Devi - Legendary Spearmarshall. Well, 2 years and 1 max title of that level is a pretty good rate....
riddik darksky
i have a feeling this system is going to fail. certian ppl will grind for titles, just to fow or uw. then the they go in. hour goes away, then every one else is waiting my guess around 4-6 hours to get 1 hour of favor again. i see after maybe 2 months anet will change either the time favor last or the amount of titles.
Yichi
they should have just dropped the pvp/favor system alltogether and not linked it this way. simple up the drop rate on the scrolls and reduce the cost at the trader. done. this way anyone could access fow/uw at any time. end of problem.
leprekan
HMMMMMM 6 million to unlock grand master treasure hunter on another char or 2k for a scroll ....
I still dont get why they would mess with it. We have SCROLLS .. leave it be and move on to something productive. Like upgrading the network. Having half the deep party get error7 at same time nightly HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO there is something you can work on. Scrolls were put in place to compensate for regions not having favor. If people on forums still whine then take it for what it is .. you cant make everyone happy and move on. Favor should remain how it is to encourage fresh blood to take an interest in pvp or you will watch it die off.
I still dont get why they would mess with it. We have SCROLLS .. leave it be and move on to something productive. Like upgrading the network. Having half the deep party get error7 at same time nightly HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO there is something you can work on. Scrolls were put in place to compensate for regions not having favor. If people on forums still whine then take it for what it is .. you cant make everyone happy and move on. Favor should remain how it is to encourage fresh blood to take an interest in pvp or you will watch it die off.
MrSlayer
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HMMMMMM 6 million to unlock grand master treasure hunter on another char or 2k for a scroll ....
I still dont get why they would mess with it. We have SCROLLS .. leave it be and move on to something productive. Like upgrading the network. Having half the deep party get error7 at same time nightly HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO there is something you can work on. Scrolls were put in place to compensate for regions not having favor. If people on forums still whine then take it for what it is .. you cant make everyone happy and move on. Favor should remain how it is to encourage fresh blood to take an interest in pvp or you will watch it die off. |
LF R6++ ONLY
LF R3+ ONLY
LF Monks with EXPERIENCE (must be r3+)
New blood...sure
I ended up herowaying my only fame point with a friend who started her own HA guild...which in 6 months of play won once <_<
Metal Herc
Wow... This just seems out of the blue. Oh hey, we have a system, instead of tweaking it, lets toss to mess with them.
Ya hahaaha! This will be grand.
We will see how this works, sounds stupid though.
Ya hahaaha! This will be grand.
We will see how this works, sounds stupid though.
Evilsod
Any word from Gaile on which RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idiot thought up this system? Because it is well and truly retarded.
Stupid that i decided to eat my last 12 points worth of sweets about 2 hours before this change.
Stupid that i decided to eat my last 12 points worth of sweets about 2 hours before this change.
ShadowsRequiem
ummm wtf....
Neo Nugget
logged in and amercia has 11 more titles to max before we get favor.....lol
MrSlayer
The Test Event has begun.
The Text Event has ended.
What the crap...3 minute test event is for the WIN?
The Text Event has ended.
What the crap...3 minute test event is for the WIN?
Zamanee Jinn
only 1 hour? only the legendary titles? this syestem is awful. every title should count. it should be for at least a day with +1hr each maxed during that day. 1 hour per 20 is too short. 3 minutes per one during? that's bull!
Evilsod
Maybe someone should point out to Anet its spelt 'favour'...
Pkest
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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
logged in and amercia has 11 more titles to max before we get favor.....lol
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It's not America it's global.
reetkever
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Originally Posted by Zamanee Jinn
only 1 hour? only the legendary titles? this syestem is awful. every title should count. it should be for at least a day with +1hr each maxed during that day. 1 hour per 20 is too short. 3 minutes per one during? that's bull!
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'Player 1 has reached Sunspear (1)'
'Player 1 has reached Sunspear (2)'
'Player 2 has reached Legendary Defender of Ascalon'
'Player 3 has reached Sunspear (1)'
'Player 1 has reached Sunspear (3)'
'Player 3 has reached Sunspear (2)'
etc, could you imagine the spam when walking in LA? :P
Sir Green Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Maybe someone should point out to Anet its spelt 'favour'...
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korcan
since certain pvp titles need to be maxed for this world wide favor thingy to work how long til someone maxes out glad, champion, and hero titles? not to mention gamer and [un]lucky titles.
what a dumb idea! just make it so that uw/fow scrolls are readily available at the rare scroll trader and im sure most of the community would be happy.
what a dumb idea! just make it so that uw/fow scrolls are readily available at the rare scroll trader and im sure most of the community would be happy.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Maybe someone should point out to Anet its spelt 'favour'...
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(Might be sarcasm, it isn't clear.)
MrSlayer
You speak ENGLISH.
Where does ENGLISH come from? Oh yes. ENGLAND! Therefore, ENGLAND is right, it is spelt "favour".
You forget it was a boat from europe which spawned your oh mighty nation.
Any how BACK ON TOPIC! Can someone tell me wtf the test event is?
Where does ENGLISH come from? Oh yes. ENGLAND! Therefore, ENGLAND is right, it is spelt "favour".
You forget it was a boat from europe which spawned your oh mighty nation.
Any how BACK ON TOPIC! Can someone tell me wtf the test event is?
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Only to the weird Europeans. In America, it's favor.
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FelixCarter
I think ANet is making a step in the right direction taking Favor out of PvP... But I was expecting something different than this.
Why not every X amount of times people beat the final mission of a campaign, Favor is granted? (it'd have to be a large number, but you get my point.)
Nice idea, ANet. But it's abviously going to need a little work.
Why not every X amount of times people beat the final mission of a campaign, Favor is granted? (it'd have to be a large number, but you get my point.)
Nice idea, ANet. But it's abviously going to need a little work.
ShadowsRequiem
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Originally Posted by FelixCarter
I think ANet is making a step in the right direction taking Favor out of PvP... But I was expecting something different than this.
Why not every X amount of times people beat the final mission of a campaign, Favor is granted? (it'd have to be a large number, but you get my point.) Nice idea, ANet. But it's abviously going to need a little work. |
atleast he wouldnt be lonely anymore ;(
brian78wa
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Originally Posted by Killmur
I would prefer if HoH wins determined which region got access to FoW\UW over this crap. Sorry but making us players grind for access and only for a 1 hour seems ludicrous and lazy. I guess any hope of casually farming there is now dead for me. At least HM SS\SB farming is still profitable.
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This is a really stupid update.
First off alot of poeple dont even try for max titles since theyre dumb in itself.
second some of these titles take forever to max.
3rd what happens when theyre all maxed out?
MrSlayer
Why not a system whereby favor is permanently available, but entry costs more, 2-2.5k, thus reducing the amount of profit made by farmers, raising ecto prices as alot of people want, and providing PvP-free way of entering the UW/FoW.
brian78wa
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Originally Posted by Killmur
Another downside is prices for the Scrolls may skyrocket though. Eep!
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I MP I
Just logged off due to rage since the goddamn thing reset while on 11 titles to gain favor. So in conclusion, I don't get it >_<
FelixCarter
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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
people would abuse it and kill shiro 100 times >_>
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Why don't they add in a boss of some sort, then? And every time he dies 50 times, the gods give Favor?
If ANet just took a moment to do think things through, then things would be a whole lot better.
Like I said: right idea. wrong implementation.