Change to Favor System :wow:

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
Just logged off due to rage since the goddamn thing reset while on 11 titles to gain favor. So in conclusion, I don't get it >_<
MP you're in anets guild alliance BITCH MAN! BITCH!

lol i'm kidding
or am i?

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

'Scuze me, gotta go get my little chicken out of the coup, he's been so lonely lately, what with the sky being held up so well by rainbows...

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

mallyx perhaps?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSlayer
mallyx perhaps?
Wouldn't they have to make him actually possible to kill first?

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Wouldn't they have to make him actually possible to kill first?
Duh

But it's a possible thought...it get's people DoAing, and makes FoW harder to access.

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by brian78wa
3rd what happens when theyre all maxed out?
Crazy thought, but how about Anet adds more titles?

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

What is the point of this change? Passage Scrolls were THE answer to the issue of one region holding favor most of the time. The only problem were their drop rates.

Couldn't they have just upped the drop rates of Fissure/Underworld Scrolls and left the mechanic alone?

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by hallomik
Crazy thought, but how about Anet adds more titles?
GWEN = more titles

I can't wait to get on the game tomorrow and see how this is shaping up... right now sleep is calling.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

At least they made it universal. I'll give em props for that.

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Our language, gtfo.
Why do the people most upset all seem to be from England (scratches head).

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
MP you're in anets guild alliance BITCH MAN! BITCH!

lol i'm kidding
or am i?


LOL WUT?? I'm guildless >_>. Back on topic they should just create an alternate way of getting uw/fow scrolls thats fair. Not far fetched ideas like this 20 title to max for favor. Don't even think it works properly either from what I saw.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSlayer
Duh

But it's a possible thought...it get's people DoAing, and makes FoW harder to access.
So it gets people away from relying on PvP to get teh favour... and moves it towards the lamest elite area ever devised that 99% of the players don't wanna waste there time on.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by korcan
since certain pvp titles need to be maxed for this world wide favor thingy to work how long til someone maxes out glad, champion, and hero titles?
not very soon

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Maybe I'm crazy... but you already have to ascend to access it.. couldn't that be enough?

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

This system has flaws... huge ones.

Essentially 20 people need to gain favor... 20 people need to get a max title within hours. I think this is completely ridiculous.

Make FoW and UW completely open in my honest opinion, if your even trying to implement a system like this at all. Ecto's have already skyrocketed to 7k. Now either you have the entire world at a complaint, or the entire world at ease. This system actually causes frustration, not many people grind to have legendary survivor, at least with HoH favor there was a system that gave dedication as its reward.

I play on the Euro Servers and I am living in North America. Europe seems more dedicated to the game then America was. Often enough for the past week America has only gotten favor at about 12 EST. Which is ridiculous.

I am not switching servers back just yet, and I know im being skeptical but like someone already pointed out. If the length was extended to say 10 more minutes instead of 3 I would like this system alot more. Also the amount of required max titles to perhaps 10? Either way I find 20 more then redundant among both pvp'ers and pve'ers. PvP players are at the hands of PvE now which is the exact same problem as before you cannot gain a max pvp title they contribute nothing.

Zexion

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
there will not be any additional grind.

people are going for titles they want anyway.


nobody is moronic enough to spend the time/plat on a title for helping gain access

it is moronic to think people will grind one more title than they would have anyway because of access

this is to increase access not limit it further see ENSIGNS post
If increasing the rate of access is what they wanted, they would have kept the old system in addition to this. Anet just shot themselves in the fo... no, head!

Seriously. How many months did it take to come up with this utter tripe of an idea?

_Zexion

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

How about we give it ATLEAST one day for testing before we all complain maybe? Call me crazy, but I bet Anet is testing it themselves.

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

I work as a game tester (not with Anet), something bothering me in this case: is the sentence 'The Test Event has ended.' a DEBUG text bug/issue or not?

The Severity will 'B' if something like that happened in my testing lol

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

I'm confused and I read it at least 3 times now...

I mean I get it but....I can think of a number of ways to have made this alot easier to understand.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zexion
If increasing the rate of access is what they wanted, they would have kept the old system in addition to this.
I think a large reason this system was implemented was because there were a few regions that rarely got favor, such as Taiwan, Japan and Korea.

Oukanna

Oukanna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Shaolin Guardians

E/D

Mmm i can see perhaps why it is like this; Anet did want to encourage your title progression because you will get rewarded for it in guild wars2 and GW:EN!

Perhaps this is the wrong way though......
Maxing out full titles is a long task and i thought the old favour brought the PVE and PVP together??

At some point almost everyone will have max titles and everything will slow down! Then it would be left with the country with the highest population wins!?

I am not in favour for this idea but i will see what happens! who knows maybe it will work out.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
I'm confused and I read it at least 3 times now...

I mean I get it but....I can think of a number of ways to have made this alot easier to understand.
Yeah the wording they gave is extremely long winded and confusing.

Quote:
Mmm i can see perhaps why it is like this; Anet did want to encourage your title progression because you will get rewarded for it in guild wars2 and GW:EN!
Didn't they do that by giving us rewards for buying GW2 and connecting your account to it...? The rewards will probably be absolutely shite but you get the idea.

Zexion

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

Yes, but if they used both the old and the new systems, it would still be plausible to get more than 1 hour of access per week, while still allowing all regions to get access every once in a while.

The problem I have with this system is as follows: With the old system, there were ALWAYS _someone_, somewhere in the world who had access to the Realms of the Gods. Now however? There will be (more or less) large periods of time where NOONE has access to Realms of the Gods, outside of scrolls.
In the end, it greatly limits the overall access to the regions, however it may raise the access in such regions as Japan.

_Zexion

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zexion
If increasing the rate of access is what they wanted, they would have kept the old system in addition to this.
Who says the goal was to increase access? I'm pretty sure the goal was to de-couple from PVP and make the system fair to all regions. Now the folks in Japan and Taiwan, you know, get to farm UW too.

I'd say mission accomplished.

Theli

Theli

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Los Chavos Del [Ocho]

mm The system isnt bad at all....cause, sunspear, lightbringer, and pvp titles ..dont need maxed, just when u hit any rank your name will be on screen :P.

so sunspear 1 is really easy, have 1 free slot and create a new char, then sunspear 1, errase char, create new, sunspear 1, errase..

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theli
mm The system isnt bad at all....cause, sunspear, lightbringer, and pvp titles ..dont need maxed, just when u hit any rank your name will be on screen :P.

so sunspear 1 is really easy, have 1 free slot and create a new char, then sunspear 1, errase char, create new, sunspear 1, errase..
Nevermind he's wrong.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theli
mm The system isnt bad at all....cause, sunspear, lightbringer, and pvp titles ..dont need maxed, just when u hit any rank your name will be on screen :P.

so sunspear 1 is really easy, have 1 free slot and create a new char, then sunspear 1, errase char, create new, sunspear 1, errase..
Its about max titles...

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theli
mm The system isnt bad at all....cause, sunspear, lightbringer, and pvp titles ..dont need maxed, just when u hit any rank your name will be on screen :P.

so sunspear 1 is really easy, have 1 free slot and create a new char, then sunspear 1, errase char, create new, sunspear 1, errase..


What??? Are you sure you're playing guild wars? All I saw in game were people who gained the maximum rank in a title had their names displayed. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates:August_2007

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theli
mm The system isnt bad at all....cause, sunspear, lightbringer, and pvp titles ..dont need maxed, just when u hit any rank your name will be on screen :P.

so sunspear 1 is really easy, have 1 free slot and create a new char, then sunspear 1, errase char, create new, sunspear 1, errase..
you are 100% wrong.

"Favor will now be granted based on character-driven achievements. Each time a character achieves the maximum rank in a qualifying title, the world will be one step closer to gaining the gods' favor."

I bolded, italiced, and underlined the operative phrase so you can read it a little better.

disarm76

disarm76

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Portugal

Well, at least I got something to do when I'm bored:
Stay in town waiting for the titles and greeting the players!!

Unknown

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

[DK] The Divine Kingdom

E/

beat me to it lol

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

I beat you all to it! Muahaha!

On topic: this system sucks.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmanka
This system has flaws... huge ones.

Essentially 20 people need to gain favor... 20 people need to get a max title within hours. I think this is completely ridiculous.
I just watched 4 people attain max titles in 9 minutes. What are we bitching about again?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Yeah but people have to run out of maxable titles sometime:P

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
I just watched 4 people attain max titles in 9 minutes. What are we bitching about again?
Lol. We've had access steadily since the first 20 people hit.

Two theories come to mind:

1) A whole lot of people have been secretly saving up their maxed titles for just such a day to come along.

2) Anet actually knows what they're doing.

(Ponders)

Oukanna

Oukanna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Shaolin Guardians

E/D

Yeah its only max ranks that alter the favour!
http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/pvp/favorupdate.php

On further thought, this new system does provide more access to places like Taiwan etc ...maybe they should just change the system to a rotation system......makes it completely fare and everywhere gets a turn!

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Yeah but people have to run out of maxable titles sometime:P
Read above. I think it is possible for Anet to add more titles to the game. Just a thought.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

It would be nice for them to add a few more outlets for getting titles for GW:EN, ones we already have avialable.

liiike polymock gets you an ale or sweet item

But i wonder why they didnt add vanquisher titles to the list.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by hallomik
2) Anet actually knows what they're doing.

(Ponders)
NO! NO! that's can't be it! Anet aer teh suck!!!

It's really not that hard for them to see the average # of max titles are achieved per hour. I'm sure they just found the average # needed to keep it going at 3 min chunks.

shopkeeps

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

I think its great that they changed the system to allow more countries to favor instead of Europe all the time but it seems to me that in doing so they made it pointless to play Heroes Acent which personally I would only play so that America could get favor.