All item duplication exploit (do not name players please)

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Been around longer than a week, about a month ago i saw someone selling 90~ armbraces, at the time i put it down to ebay gold but ive been seeing a lot of them around just this week.

WTB Tormented Shield 3k!

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by yesitsrob
Depend on their means of getting the ambraces, do they get multiple ambraces, or multiple gems to get the ambraces? And would this mean torment weapons are untradable too? Or the gems... Whatever the case they clearly didn't genuinely get them... even if all you did was DoA, and didn't sleep, you'd not get this many. >_>
Agreed, small price to pay if the only other alternative is a roll back.

I suspect it's an exploit somehow. Maybe, Get a gem set, bring the swap window out, trade it with someone else and then craft the item leaving the gems intact. No idea. But a few days ago there was a post here claiming a dupe program that would do armbraces, it was removed PDQ but I remember seeing it.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Thats ridiculous!
i know i am NEVER going to get an armbrace ever and these people have TONS!>.<

But if i start seeing people selling armbraces for 5k..........i might buy one.....or a few more.....i would like to have those weps

But seriously, i wonder whats going to be done about this?What if they dont even work?Fakes?

Atlas Ravens

Atlas Ravens

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Raven Clan [RAVN]

Mo/

Could this be the result of neither ebay gold or dupes but rather some players running their own bots for personal ingame profit? If gold sellers run bots to make real cash then why couldn't individuals run bots to obtain wealth for high-end in-game purchases? Anet might be so incredibly inefficient in catching bots that this is happening regularly.

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

atlas, im guessing uve never been to mallyx or such... that area is very changing, and botting would be almost impossible from my experiences.

And a full month roll-back would be insane... and i wouldnt expect it, i would expect, and love to see, mas bans

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Makes sence, somhow they dupe this items. Relising they are gonna get a perma ban they offer huge ammounts of armbraces for pet-A therefor they think they are safe because they have ditched the blood coverd cash or w/e.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Go check out the Buy Forum. There's some very QQ WTB threads there.

This is disturbing. I've been seeing the same gold seller in Kamadan for a month. I'm sure they've been banned multiple times, but they just keep coming back.

I feel awful for Anet's team trying to chase all these bots/problems/gold sellers down. But looking at this discussion, it looks like something has gone insane.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Just popped into Ascalon Inter1, nothing out of the ordinary. Load of wammos in their black FoW (Zzz)
Lol, I went there too. They're like clones. Maybe someone found a black-FoW-wammo-duping hax?

bamm bamm bamm

bamm bamm bamm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlas Ravens
Could this be the result of neither ebay gold or dupes but rather some players running their own bots for personal ingame profit? If gold sellers run bots to make real cash then why couldn't individuals run bots to obtain wealth for high-end in-game purchases? Anet might be so incredibly inefficient in catching bots that this is happening regularly.
Who knows, but I think even bots would have a difficult time matching these figures.

o m g pizowned

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

nah they can't re-roll a month malice. i just hope they unstack them, or delete all armbraces in the game which i'm sure they can't do

Net Flanders

Net Flanders

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Sweden/Germany

Our Quality Needs No Name [1337], also as guild leader

W/

it would be easier, to ban all who have 400+ armbraces got within a day... not with trading, I mean from nothing - farmed or from trader :x

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

this problem has apparently been around for the past month or so. if thats the case, there is no way that anet can do anything about it.

i think it would be next to impossible for anet to track down all the armbraces in the game that were somehow duped/glitched/whatever in order to ban players.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

To be honest I think I'm past caring. This game just isn't what it use to be.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

My guess; Mallyx quest bugged allowing players to accept the reward multiple times allowing them to get stacks of gems then exchanging those for ambraces (since there is a spirit of truth right there beside Mallyx's corpse).

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
To be honest I think I'm past caring. This game just isn't what it use to be.

i 100% agree with u

Exigate

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Armada of Heaven[aoh]

W/Mo

It seems they're all offering really high prices on minipets/crystallines probably just so they can dupe them and make ALOT more money..

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Well they could just change all the armbraces into chitin fragments, they have changed items before right? But then people who have deped them might be making weapons, or just buying pandas or w/e. So it would be really unfair on the honest people with the arm braces and the people who did it would probs get away. So either the exploit or whatever it is is fixed or we do a one month rollback... Either way i would boycott armbraces for now and hope a-net fixes the exploit and temporaraly removes the trader who transfers them into weapons. Hope this isnt beond a fix .

Atlas Ravens

Atlas Ravens

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Raven Clan [RAVN]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by max gladius
atlas, im guessing uve never been to mallyx or such... that area is very changing, and botting would be almost impossible from my experiences.
Not what I was getting at. Botting wherever the botting has been good for the last year type of people could have very easily attained that level of wealth to buy the armbraces themselves. A place to park their ill gotten money. Thanks also for guessing that I have never been to Mallyx or such, but you would be wrong.

warren_kn

warren_kn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

London, England

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
My guess; Mallyx quest bugged allowing players to accept the reward multiple times allowing them to get stacks of gems then exchanging those for ambraces (since there is a spirit of truth right there beside Mallyx's corpse).
Either that, or the coding for the Coffers was unintentionally altered making the chance of an Armbrace greater.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by warren_kn
Either that, or the coding for the Coffers was unintentionally altered making the chance of an Armbrace greater.
Maybe but I think we'd all know about it soon enough if that was the case. People generally tell their friends and guildies if they have such luck.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

I sense Anet is going to reset the whole economy, but idk because I know a lot of people would quit the game if they lost their wealth.

Rehnahvah Gahro

Rehnahvah Gahro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Underground

Rt/R

Even if you would get 1 Armbrace out of every Coffer it would not explain thousands of Armbraces...

Just want to know: Are you sure that this isn't some kind of trade scam? Say the one showing the Armbraces has in fact only 7 instead of 1750? And that it would be some kind of bug? I mean noone did such a trade actually, so we can't say for sure til someone does right? (Plz tell me it's a scam, if there are really that much Armbraces and it is a bug... well... hell will break loose to say the least)

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by o m g pizowned
or delete all armbraces in the game which i'm sure they can't do
You obviously weren't around for the CoA Axe bug, where it had 2 grip slots. In the space of a night, people had dozens of them. Arenanet just replaced every single one of them with a plain white, minimum stat axe. They have the ability to do anything with anything in their database. They would be stupid to design a system where they couldn't.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Maybe but I think we'd all know about it soon enough if that was the case. People generally tell their friends and guildies if they have such luck.
A guildie today got 5 titan gemstones from back to back coffers today, nothing about ambraces though.

Holz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Not a bug. Not an exploit. If this were the case, it would have been spread in a fraction of a second... Probably people who run botting companies, and people that are willing to spend 5,000 dollars to be cool in a virtual world.

Imo, these rare Asian pets ruin the game anyway. They only make situations like these happen, and many lucky individuals have gotten like 2000ecto+ profit out of them, all supported by 'black' gold. No offense to you, gladius, but posting here about the problem is kind of double IMO, since you probably had your superrare 15% unconditional weapons financed by 'black' gold also .

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

I'm worried. Q.Q

This Thread needs Gaile/Dev reassurance!

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

We are most definitely looking into this matter. Remember, there are any number of reasons why this might be going on, including even something as simple as a return of a display bug that was present back in June. (Reference here.) I am not saying that a display bug (and attempted scamming taking advantage of that bug) is the cause -- not at all! But it's a possibility, as are many other possibilities that others have offered.

We'll let you know when we have more info!

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Has anyone taken the bullet and seen if these armbraces are legit?

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

for those who think it is a appearence bug, NO, it is not, cuz some of my closest friends have been sold their minis for XXX armbrace, i can tell u this right here.

FoXanthar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
We are most definitely looking into this matter. Remember, there are any number of reasons why this might be going on, including even something as simple as a return of a display bug that was present back in June. (Reference here.) I am not saying that a display bug (and attempted scamming taking advantage of that bug) is the cause -- not at all! But it's a possibility, as are many other possibilities that others have offered.

We'll let you know when we have more info!
Please keep us posted, as I don't see any explanation why thousands of armbraces have flooded the market - and they are real braces, not display bugs.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

well i went there and said wts mini panda, which i didnt have. I got so many PM's! No one actuallly offered up in trade though, which is something i wanted proof of. -.-

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Did the same myself, 1200 braces for a panda

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

yes i just traded 1 arm brace for a tormented shield, they are real ones, yes

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Thanks for the additional info. This is going around in emails within the company, thanks to Curtis and John getting it started as a point of concern.

So, the designers and programmers are on the case and we hope to have more info soon.

Any other specific information you can provide would be very helpful. If we need anything -- like the names of those offering a gazillion Arm Braces -- I'll let you know.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Let the hunt begin.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Did the same myself, 1200 braces for a panda
Bryant requires screenshot'd proof!

Oh and 1 armbrace plzkthxbaibai

Rehnahvah Gahro

Rehnahvah Gahro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Underground

Rt/R

Well, ONE Armbrace trading for a tormented weapon... that's normal, that probably happens several hundred times a day, but has anyone actually a pic where someone has thousands of Armbraces in his inventory (NOT the trade window), I mean, no offense to all your friends or friends of their friends but it's: no pic => it didn't happen. The only thing I've seen until now are 7 Stacks of
Armbraces in a TRADE window... if someone could plz confirm those in his or her INVENTORY I would be convinced..

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

i got ALOT of really clear screen shots of this guy if u need them....

some showing his name, him asking me to show the mini, his armor, his cape, his guild tag... him following me around when i minimized to make sure i got a good picture... spoke fine english, and didnt seem to pushy... except that i didnt have pet to show him...

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

So what'll happen to the people that traded for them? Will you just delete the armbraces and they lose their rare minis or w/e?

Richo

Richo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

(Europe server)

[DVDF]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by max gladius
i got ALOT of really clear screen shots of this guy if u need them....
make a support ticket and submit it and give explanation and also a link off this track and the 2 specefic posts gaile made and it will be posted into the right direction

Quote:
So what'll happen to the people that traded for them? Will you just delete the armbraces and they lose their rare minis or w/e?
at this point there are 2 options for anet to do so who traded those amounts of ambraces:
1. they will simply deleted all the ambraces and mail the person in question its his own fault and he should have known these items were aquired with an exploit/hack
2. they will delete the ambraces and the minipet (from the person who payed you for the mini pet) and spawn a new minipet in the seller (off the minipet) his inventory like nothing has happend

if anet realy is concerned about the wealth and happines off people they will use the second option or something VERY similar