Gaile dropped some new info on how the Hall of Monuments will work.
Gaile on HoM
Dragasa
Malice Black
Mini pets customized?
Don't 'do' them myself, but I can see people moaning about that.
Don't 'do' them myself, but I can see people moaning about that.
liner
... so if i got this right, minis are customized to a characters, like armor is already. Not shared with account-characters. But didnt we see in the E3 videos a HoM with ascended armors of different professions?
Ah well, its 2am and im not going to check, as it wouldnt matter anyway. Still bit surprised though.
Ah well, its 2am and im not going to check, as it wouldnt matter anyway. Still bit surprised though.
VitisVinifera
HoM seriously needs to be acct-based
or come out with more details, such as how many of what is needed to complete a monument and bestow the bonus at GW2
now that HoM is about to be out, we really need to know the outcome of our choices that will become irreversible (such as minis being customized to a character)
this exposes another flaw, that many of us have a LOT of characters, but on the outset of GW2 will probably have many less.
or come out with more details, such as how many of what is needed to complete a monument and bestow the bonus at GW2
now that HoM is about to be out, we really need to know the outcome of our choices that will become irreversible (such as minis being customized to a character)
this exposes another flaw, that many of us have a LOT of characters, but on the outset of GW2 will probably have many less.
arcanemacabre
Bad news, IMO. Our choices are then:
1) have all minipets on one character to get as many as possible showing in the hall at once
2) each character gets one or two in each of their halls
3) get each character as many minipets as possible each, all taking up lots of extra storage, which we do not get
4) screw the whole minipet thing, not worth it
I'm probably gonna say 4. Not that I want to sell the minipets I have, but I do like to switch them around occasionally, and if they are customized to the character, you probably won't be able to take them out with a different character. Just a whole heck of a lot of BS. They really are encouraging the regular play of one single solitary character, rather than multiples.
I guess we'll see in a few hours...
1) have all minipets on one character to get as many as possible showing in the hall at once
2) each character gets one or two in each of their halls
3) get each character as many minipets as possible each, all taking up lots of extra storage, which we do not get
4) screw the whole minipet thing, not worth it
I'm probably gonna say 4. Not that I want to sell the minipets I have, but I do like to switch them around occasionally, and if they are customized to the character, you probably won't be able to take them out with a different character. Just a whole heck of a lot of BS. They really are encouraging the regular play of one single solitary character, rather than multiples.
I guess we'll see in a few hours...
VitisVinifera
yes, I can already see responses in this thread exposing many logical and logistical errors in making HoM character-based
Arcane got a few more
Arcane got a few more
KamikazeChicken
... How does REMOVING miniatures from the market help keep their rarity? It increases it drastically. I'm glad I only use 1 character with this "each character" crap.
Exhibit A
Yeah, the weapons are fine, but it would be nice if the minipets at least were customized to account instead of the character. Or if there was a way to copy them, like with the Festival Hat makers.
bloodvayne
great, so there's no way for me to get survivor or LDoA in my character's (singular) HoM
and the armors thing, definitely makes no sense
and huzzah, minipet prices will go thru the roof!
and the armors thing, definitely makes no sense
and huzzah, minipet prices will go thru the roof!
Yawgmoth
Character based HoM - the biggest disappointment imaginable.
HoM was my only hope for rewarding account based accomplishments, so one could have different maxed titles on different characters, the thing KoaBD title couldn't do. It means that if I want to have a Legendary Survivor / Legd Defender of Ascalon monument with some other monuments I've achieved I have to make a new character and redo every damn thing on him!! This is absurd.
HoM was my only hope for rewarding account based accomplishments, so one could have different maxed titles on different characters, the thing KoaBD title couldn't do. It means that if I want to have a Legendary Survivor / Legd Defender of Ascalon monument with some other monuments I've achieved I have to make a new character and redo every damn thing on him!! This is absurd.
julien
Dont think just about your self, character base is perfect.
Sasuke The Betrayer
What?! Julien... this affects everyone.... Alot of people refrained from remaking an ENTIRE character just for a title or two (LDOA or Survivor).... but now that they tell us its character based...doing that was a complete waste. Now we have to remake if we want those titles on a character.... which is major suckage.
arcanemacabre
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Neo Nugget
awww i like transferring minis through storage for the character im playing atm.
Not big into customizing weapons either.....ooooh well. I wish it was account based.
Not big into customizing weapons either.....ooooh well. I wish it was account based.
LifeInfusion
Character based is not that great...
- if you want to show your minis, you have to log on to that character.
- if you have Wisdom/Treasure Hunter title on a character you have to log on to that character
- account based titles become that much better
- customization means you cannot share weapons between heroes or if you have two of the same primary profession
Really IMO customization should be account-wide for minis and the HoM ought to be account wide as well. In essence a character-based HoM punishes those that use multiple characters...
- if you want to show your minis, you have to log on to that character.
- if you have Wisdom/Treasure Hunter title on a character you have to log on to that character
- account based titles become that much better
- customization means you cannot share weapons between heroes or if you have two of the same primary profession
Really IMO customization should be account-wide for minis and the HoM ought to be account wide as well. In essence a character-based HoM punishes those that use multiple characters...
wetsparks
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Character based HoM - the biggest disappointment imaginable.
HoM was my only hope for rewarding account based accomplishments, so one could have different maxed titles on different characters, the thing KoaBD title couldn't do. It means that if I want to have a Legendary Survivor / Legd Defender of Ascalon monument with some other monuments I've achieved I have to make a new character and redo every damn thing on him!! This is absurd. |
GloryFox
I guess this means your HoM will be inherited by a character with the same name in GW2. This is disappointing as many people would like to change some names they did.
Sasuke The Betrayer
Honestly.... do they expect us to do titles on each and every character?
TyrianFury
I'm not one to really moan about updates or whatever but I really feel HoM should be account based. This way you can show off all the stuff you have accumulated on your account, your true time invested into the game. For example I mainly play an Elementalist, have quite a few max titles now, armour, and some nice caster weapons.
My Warrior on the other hand hand has less titles but far more coolers weapons and other items. (well warriors tend to have anyway). I would like a way to show off all the items at once not just what on one particular character. All your in game achievement's should be in one place.
My Ele has 13 maxed titles, a 2 year old character, my much newer ranger has 2 including legendary survivor. Now I can't show off all the tiles I have actually been awarded and some HoM will be more barren then others despite having some nice all be it few achievements on show. In any case its too time consuming and somewhat pointless repeating titles on other characters but it would be nice to show them all off at the same time.
I don't like how weapons and other items will be character customised. It's a such a shame you won't be able to show off all your loot at once
Oh well, still looking forward to the games release.
My Warrior on the other hand hand has less titles but far more coolers weapons and other items. (well warriors tend to have anyway). I would like a way to show off all the items at once not just what on one particular character. All your in game achievement's should be in one place.
My Ele has 13 maxed titles, a 2 year old character, my much newer ranger has 2 including legendary survivor. Now I can't show off all the tiles I have actually been awarded and some HoM will be more barren then others despite having some nice all be it few achievements on show. In any case its too time consuming and somewhat pointless repeating titles on other characters but it would be nice to show them all off at the same time.
I don't like how weapons and other items will be character customised. It's a such a shame you won't be able to show off all your loot at once
Oh well, still looking forward to the games release.
Midnight Harmony
I have five level 20 characters, each with mutliple sets of prestige armour, nice weapons and on some, titles. This has suprised me, but it just means I'll have to focus all my efforts on only one or two characters. I don't mind the fact that armour and weapons are unique, but pets and titles should be universal. If someone has thirty titles, I'm sure they would want all of them to be visible to show how much effort they have put in, I know I would.
meerkats
if its character based how did the guy in the EotN demo have more than one class of ascended armour in his Hall?
VitisVinifera
insane grind just got multiplied
Coridan
i agree...i have used my primar toon a warrior to chase all titles...except for the Survivor and LDOA because IT WAS TOO LATE TO GET THEM! total BS...and Mini pets...TOTAL BS again...i mean come on there are 4 million users...what percent is 100 of 4Million...that is the percentage of people that will have rare pets...and not only that if they customize them then they will be worthless...so that means no RARE pets will be in HoM
GloryFox
Insane Grind FTL!,
But Hey MINIPETS!,,,, but only for one character.
But Hey MINIPETS!,,,, but only for one character.
arcanemacabre
Yeah, the only solace I get is the fact that the HoM is just an e-peen/vanity thing. Meh.
lyra_song
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Honestly.... do they expect us to do titles on each and every character?
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AngeloM3
Ok here's a match and wood... let the flames begin...
but...
are we getting access to HoM during the preview?
but...
are we getting access to HoM during the preview?
Navaros
Character-based means now more than ever, playing more than just one main character in Guild Wars is totally pointless.
HOM needs to be changed to be account-based.
HOM needs to be changed to be account-based.
Neo Nugget
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I think the better question is, do you expect yourself to do titles on each and every character?
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Sasuke The Betrayer
If you read the chat log by the OP, Gaile says you WILL go to the HoM.
AngeloM3
Wow from that seems like its time to sell my minis....... that whole mini things is f'ed up!
Anyone know if your able to "un-do" a monument?
Anyone know if your able to "un-do" a monument?
King Kong
Wisdom title on every char... yeah right 
Loviatar
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YOU CAN RESERVE A NAME.................YOU DONT HAVE TO USE IT BUT IT IS THERE IF YOU REALLY WANT IT........OK SO FAR????
WHO SAID YOUR DESCENDANT HAS TO HAVE THE SAME NAME?
THE ONLY THING SAID WAS THAT YOU HAVE TO PICK A GW2 CHARACTER WHO WILL INHERITE THAT MONUMENTS CONTENTS.
EACH CHARACTER IN GW WHO CREATES A MONUMENT GIVES A DIFFERENT DESCENDANT A HERRITAGE
YOU WANT TO TRADE PETS FROM GW1 CHARACTER TO CHARACTER?...WAIT TO PUT IT IN THE MONUMENT FOR A YEAR OR TWO.
3D House of Beef
I fail to understand this at all. Having so many titles character based was already driving people to experience less and less of the games content by encouraging title-seekers to focus on a single character, making HoM character based rather than account based forces us more and more in that direction. Are they tired of selling us character slots or something?
Assuming there are players in the game who prefer to use multiple characters to play the different classes (I am one of them), why do they keep alienating that base of players with decisions like this? This is obviously a bad decision from a players point of view. Can anyone possibly see the upside for Anet? I cannot.
It seems that when this game started out, they were very player focused, and wanted to make the game easier to enjoy. I boasted to players of other games about how frequently the game was patched, as evidence of how player focused Anet was. Any more I am dreading each update. The Gladiator title change, for example, cost me thousands of faction points, as it lowered my faction cap. That, I am sure, was a simple mistake. But I no longer have any idea where Anet is trying to go with this game. As each change no longer makes things more enjoyable, but just the opposite.
Assuming there are players in the game who prefer to use multiple characters to play the different classes (I am one of them), why do they keep alienating that base of players with decisions like this? This is obviously a bad decision from a players point of view. Can anyone possibly see the upside for Anet? I cannot.
It seems that when this game started out, they were very player focused, and wanted to make the game easier to enjoy. I boasted to players of other games about how frequently the game was patched, as evidence of how player focused Anet was. Any more I am dreading each update. The Gladiator title change, for example, cost me thousands of faction points, as it lowered my faction cap. That, I am sure, was a simple mistake. But I no longer have any idea where Anet is trying to go with this game. As each change no longer makes things more enjoyable, but just the opposite.
Kushiels_Scion
I would like to have a mini of a character of my choice (one of my own that is) in GW2. Perhaps they can add that into Hall of Monuments for your most accomplished character may get a mini of itself with the armors and weapons of choice that have been immortalized or whatever on the said mini as well. Not a mini for GW1 but for GW2 of a high accomplished GW1 character.
Curse You
So basically this is saying, "You should work on one character." How encouraging, especially since the people who have as many characters as I do (12) have paid extra money. Nice way to "reward" those who decide to pay extra.
Agyar
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Yeah, the only solace I get is the fact that the HoM is just an e-peen/vanity thing. Meh.
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Rhedd
Well... Gaile's revelation is certainly interesting news. If I put a mini in the monument, nobody else can even have it follow them around? Not only can I not sell them, which I wouldn't do anyway, but not even another of MY characters can play with it?
That just means that, by no means whatsoever, will I EVER be putting a minipet into the HoM.
No matter what.
Ever.
Nossir. Even though I've collected 27 unique pets, that'll be one darned empty monument.
Nice that they fixed the insanity of multi-character holiday hats, only to replace it a million-fold with mini-pet exclusivity.
Whee.
Did I mention, NEVER?
That just means that, by no means whatsoever, will I EVER be putting a minipet into the HoM.
No matter what.
Ever.
Nossir. Even though I've collected 27 unique pets, that'll be one darned empty monument.
Nice that they fixed the insanity of multi-character holiday hats, only to replace it a million-fold with mini-pet exclusivity.
Whee.
Did I mention, NEVER?
Gaile Gray
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Originally Posted by Exhibit A
Yeah, the weapons are fine, but it would be nice if the minipets at least were customized to account instead of the character. Or if there was a way to copy them, like with the Festival Hat makers.
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
I guess this means your HoM will be inherited by a character with the same name in GW2. This is disappointing as many people would like to change some names they did.
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Originally Posted by AngeloM3
are we getting access to HoM during the preview?
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seut
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Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer
Honestly.... do they expect us to do titles on each and every character?
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