What I would like to know is whether a character in GW2 will need to choose a single character from GW1 to inherit from, or whether the GW2 character will inherit from the entire account.
I think what will happen, judging by what we've seen on the videos showing the HoM, is that each character will be able to store accomplishments in a single hall that stores all our characters' achievements. I can't see any other way of the video showing armour for different professions and genders in the one hall. If this is the case, if my GW2 character will be able to inherit from all my GW1 characters, then I have no problem. I'm willing to be patient and add all my minipets and weapons to my hall shortly before the release of GW2. But if we do have to choose one character to inherit from, I will probably stop playing all of my other characters. There is no point, after all.
Gaile on HoM
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Loviatar
and remember kiddies that all those unique only through HoM mini unlocked unique minipets will be customized as well.
before you yell how do you know this the devs have already stated specifically that your inheritance will not give you an advantage over their new GW2 player base and if a zoo of unique minipets worth billions is not an advantage check out panda/etc prices for an example.
they will be show not go like DIVINE AURA
not transferable but real nice
before you yell how do you know this the devs have already stated specifically that your inheritance will not give you an advantage over their new GW2 player base and if a zoo of unique minipets worth billions is not an advantage check out panda/etc prices for an example.
they will be show not go like DIVINE AURA
not transferable but real nice
Enko
note to self, no more buying extra character slots for future games in case they make changes such as these . ..
guess this dashes my hopes of getting a complete set of minis. vizu and zhed are pretty much out of reach now and the ghostly hero drops so rarely as well . .. hopefully they make some new source for these minis.
seems kind of stupid to customize minis to a single character. guess my HoM won't have any minis for a while until I ponder this some more.
is the grind in eye of the north (and gw2 down the line) going to be so bad that the only option is going to push through with just a single player? i really hope this isn't an indication of this.
guess this dashes my hopes of getting a complete set of minis. vizu and zhed are pretty much out of reach now and the ghostly hero drops so rarely as well . .. hopefully they make some new source for these minis.
seems kind of stupid to customize minis to a single character. guess my HoM won't have any minis for a while until I ponder this some more.
is the grind in eye of the north (and gw2 down the line) going to be so bad that the only option is going to push through with just a single player? i really hope this isn't an indication of this.
Noz Crow
Well It looks like I can delete my other 8 characters and just focus on my 1st and Favorite (Ranger). Thats a cool way to take the fun out of this game. You get to grind for titles, oh and by the way unless you have more time than sense you only get to play 1 character, Yee ha
cellardweller
As far as I can see, they examined all the option for handing the HoM, minipet trading, armour and weapons trading, titles distributed accross characters... and picked the worst possible one.
Honestly, is anyone happy with the design we've heard about?
Honestly, is anyone happy with the design we've heard about?
Neo Nugget
Yeah, ive been playing on my rit lately and am gonna take him through GW:EN.
But i still really like playing all of my other characters. And i have ALOT. So this news kinda bums me out -.-
But i still really like playing all of my other characters. And i have ALOT. So this news kinda bums me out -.-
VitisVinifera
So, Gaile, should we risk laying down our armors, weapons, minis, etc to the HoM, irreversibly and with unknown consequences, when you can't tell us exactly how this is really going to work in the end?
Exoudeous
Gaile: if tis character based, then why did the person in the E3 video have armors from every profession? thats just plain mean to tease us like that
also i think what they should do with minis is flag them as being untradable after you use them that way you can still have other characters use them.
also i think what they should do with minis is flag them as being untradable after you use them that way you can still have other characters use them.
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So, Gaile, should we risk laying down our armors, weapons, minis, etc to the HoM, irreversibly and with unknown consequences, when you can't tell us exactly how this is really going to work in the end?
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Loviatar
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it wont
it was a demo not real life so to speak.
they had each and every display case full.
they said EACH CHARACTER WILL HAVE ITS OWN IT CANT BE MADE MORE CLEAR THAN THAT
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I can't see any other way of the video showing armour for different professions and genders in the one hall. If this is the case, if my GW2 character will be able to inherit from all my GW1 characters, then I have no problem.
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it was a demo not real life so to speak.
they had each and every display case full.
they said EACH CHARACTER WILL HAVE ITS OWN IT CANT BE MADE MORE CLEAR THAN THAT
VitisVinifera
that was more of a rhetorical question Rhedd.......of course, with my mini collection, 18 titles all on one character, and my best rares all warrior weapons, like so many others, nearly all my focus has been on one toon, that i won't make any irreversible decisions yet
I'm just wondering what Gaile's justification (or perhaps regurgitated company line) is for such an obviously terrible decision, which has already been shot so full of holes in this thread I'd be embarrased to have to defend it
I'm just wondering what Gaile's justification (or perhaps regurgitated company line) is for such an obviously terrible decision, which has already been shot so full of holes in this thread I'd be embarrased to have to defend it
hallomik
This is pretty much exactly how I expected it to work.
I think it makes sense for a mini-pet to be "enshrined/customized" when you put it in the HoM. Otherwise, people in large guilds would just have massive mini-pet swaps and everyone would get everything. Lame. I personally would like to see minis account-based rather than character based, however, since customizing them will make them rare enough.
With respect to character-based titles being assigned to characters instead of accounts, I never imagined it would work any other way.
I think it makes sense for a mini-pet to be "enshrined/customized" when you put it in the HoM. Otherwise, people in large guilds would just have massive mini-pet swaps and everyone would get everything. Lame. I personally would like to see minis account-based rather than character based, however, since customizing them will make them rare enough.
With respect to character-based titles being assigned to characters instead of accounts, I never imagined it would work any other way.
Sarevok Thordin
That character based HoM is heart-breaking. For people that got insanely difficult character based titles hoping that all GW2 characters would benefit (LDoA and Survivor come to mind), this must be a major kick in the balls.
AngeloM3
I was looking forward to GWEN...
This broke my heart though... so sad. WHY ANET? WHY?
Well I guess I'll look forward to GW2 coming out now.
This broke my heart though... so sad. WHY ANET? WHY?
Well I guess I'll look forward to GW2 coming out now.
Rhedd
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that was more of a rhetorical question Rhedd.......of course, with my mini collection, 18 titles all on one character, and my best rares all warrior weapons, like so many others, nearly all my focus has been on one toon, that i won't make any irreversible decisions yet
I'm just wondering what Gaile's justification (or perhaps regurgitated company line) is for such an obviously terrible decision, which has already been shot so full of holes in this thread I'd be embarrased to have to defend it |
I just answer rhetorical questions because they're the only ones I ever know the answer to. ^_^
I cringe, by the way, at the thought of people customizing super-rare minis, ceasing to play the game, and not selling or even giving them away to friends, because they can't. Fantastic.
Shadow
Very disappointing...
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But thanks for the condolences.
Noz Crow
Well at least we get new content for GW1 with GWEN. Since HOM is only going to benefit a select few diehard players or ones that only like 1 character type. What a kick in the pants.
Rhys
I knew I shouldn't have focused on so many characters at once. I should have just chose one character and stuck with him. Oh well, at least I'll know what to do in GW2... heh. 
Oh well, at least I'll know what to do in GW2... heh.
hallomik
Here's what I don't understand.
If the system worked the way people on this thread thought it was going to work, any character on an account with one character who got a tough-to-get title like LDoA would get that title?
That would mean, you could create a character, get a run to HoM, get the LDoA title for that character, and then "bequeath" that title to a character in GW2. That would mean there would be an unending supply of items left to decendants based on a one-time achievement of a title. That just does not make sense.
If I'm missing something, burn me to a crisp. I expect no less.
If the system worked the way people on this thread thought it was going to work, any character on an account with one character who got a tough-to-get title like LDoA would get that title?
That would mean, you could create a character, get a run to HoM, get the LDoA title for that character, and then "bequeath" that title to a character in GW2. That would mean there would be an unending supply of items left to decendants based on a one-time achievement of a title. That just does not make sense.
If I'm missing something, burn me to a crisp. I expect no less.
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if its character based how did the guy in the EotN demo have more than one class of ascended armour in his Hall?
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Curse You
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Here's what I don't understand.
If the system worked the way people on this thread thought it was going to work, any character on an account with one character who got a tough-to-get title like LDoA would get that title? That would mean, you could create a character, get a run to HoM, get the LDoA title for that character, and then "bequeath" that title to a character in GW2. That would mean there would be an unending supply of items left to decendants based on a one-time achievement of a title. That just does not make sense. If I'm missing something, burn me to a crisp. I expect no less. |
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for every special graphic skill you unlock from a HoM you can bet there will be a less special graphics effect skill with a different name that does exactly the same thing for everybody else.
you will not suddenly be priviliged lords overlooking all the noobs from the heights so this hissy fit is meaningless
LDoA and Survivor on the same character............right
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Here's what I don't understand.
If the system worked the way people on this thread thought it was going to work, any character on an account with one character who got a tough-to-get title like LDoA would get that title? That would mean, you could create a character, get a run to HoM, get the LDoA title for that character, and then "bequeath" that title to a character in GW2. That would mean there would be an unending supply of items left to decendants based on a one-time achievement of a title. That just does not make sense. If I'm missing something, burn me to a crisp. I expect no less. |
natuxatu
It's not a big deal with the minipets... at least we know it advance so it doesn't suprise us. You can just put in storage and move them over to one character. I don't see a problem. I always thought they should be cutomized to begin with actually.. most other games and mmos are already that way.
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LDoA and Survivor on the same character............right
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Now in regards to the titles, considering he was complaining about HoM not being account based, why would you assume he meant these two completely incompatible titles on a single character?
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Here's what I don't understand.
If the system worked the way people on this thread thought it was going to work, any character on an account with one character who got a tough-to-get title like LDoA would get that title? That would mean, you could create a character, get a run to HoM, get the LDoA title for that character, and then "bequeath" that title to a character in GW2. That would mean there would be an unending supply of items left to decendants based on a one-time achievement of a title. That just does not make sense. If I'm missing something, burn me to a crisp. I expect no less. |
I have played the game for over 20 months, there was no survivor title back then and I died, big whoop. Then survivor title comes out after I have some much other emotional attachment and titles on my toon. What they are effectively saying is that i should delete my main toon and start over with a different toon. That’s insane. They are forcing you to choose to max titles on many toons or play just one.
A HOM that is toon based will rune playing experience for everyone. What people are thinking about is how the GW account will mesh with GW2, and the problem is even Anet doesn’t know. If your toon in GW2 can base their ancestry from any one toon in GW then why not allow a GW2 person to benefit from an entire account of GW.
Each toon in GW is forced to be part of the same guild and thus are related so a family of people should benefit from that.
Onarik Amrak
Why on Earth would they do it like that?
First they go one way then another. It makes no sense that a minipet should be character based. All that means is people have to buy multiples of everything.
Think about this!
Factions CE came with ONE minipet. Kuunavang.
Nightfall CE came with ONE minipet. Varesh.
Your account can only obtain for you ONE Gray Giant and ONE Asura.
So how in the world are you supposed to give one each to your characters? WTF?
First they go one way then another. It makes no sense that a minipet should be character based. All that means is people have to buy multiples of everything.
Think about this!
Factions CE came with ONE minipet. Kuunavang.
Nightfall CE came with ONE minipet. Varesh.
Your account can only obtain for you ONE Gray Giant and ONE Asura.
So how in the world are you supposed to give one each to your characters? WTF?
TideSwayer
So is can we finally get a Survivor-ineligible consolation title for those characters who missed out? PLEASE?
Same requirements as Survivor, only it can happen on any particular life, not just the first one. And characters with Survivor maxed out (ie. Legendary) aren't eligible.
Same requirements as Survivor, only it can happen on any particular life, not just the first one. And characters with Survivor maxed out (ie. Legendary) aren't eligible.
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TideSwayer
I'm worried about the storage ramifications if one character has to collect his/her own minipets. Do we have to store them in our character's limited inventory or can we store them in our hall of monuments?
No way in hell i'm wasting precious inventory slots for multiple minis on a character that I'm supposed to be using most of the time now. That's warped logic.
No way in hell i'm wasting precious inventory slots for multiple minis on a character that I'm supposed to be using most of the time now. That's warped logic.
Gli
Disappointing. I might as well turn all characters I made after my main into mules now if I want to make a nice HoM. And the nice HoM I will make won't have a survivor monument unless I redo the 19 max titles I have on my main. (Which isn't going to happen).
sindex
So since I have 10 toon’s (with all the different professions) I have one HoM to each toon? It’s nice that you get a great amount of space for each HoM, but it is going to create a huge storage problem at the same time. I can see people trying to get multiple weapons, mini’s, and armor, that it’s going to hog up the storage they do have. Unless you are dedicated to one profession I can see this as a plus; but if you have multiple toons your HoM is going to look pretty empty for each one.
Performance Pudding
i think that surviver and LDoA titles should be account based once gwen comes out since my war (title char) was made before titles existed. >.<
Molock
What a ******* rip-off... it should be account based not character based...
THIS IS MADNESS!!! ANET I really didn't think you would mess up this bad.
People (like me) have 15k armors, titles, minis etc accross more than one character and it would be very nice if we could have a single monument to show off ALL our achievements. I am really disappointed at the moment.
THIS IS MADNESS!!! ANET I really didn't think you would mess up this bad.
People (like me) have 15k armors, titles, minis etc accross more than one character and it would be very nice if we could have a single monument to show off ALL our achievements. I am really disappointed at the moment.
??Ripskin
HoM=Epic no matter what.
Everyone shush
Get over it
we always do
It'll be great for mini collectors 8)
Everyone shush
Get over it
we always do
It'll be great for mini collectors 8)
Rhys
Perhaps it won't be as bad as it sounds. Let's reserve our final judgement for another... 4 hours. 
Onarik Amrak
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What a ******* rip-off... it should be account based not character based...
THIS IS MADNESS!!! ANET I really didn't think you would mess up this bad. People (like me) have 15k armors, titles, minis etc accross more than one character and it would be very nice if we could have a single monument to show off ALL our achievements. I am really disappointed at the moment. |
Anet must've seen this coming. No one is going to be happy about it.
The minipet debacle really is madness.
Achilles Antony
I guess I can say it's good for me since I sell all my mini's... prices may go up now, yay for me... :S
Seriously though, I'm not too pleased about this. I was hoping it would be account based. Now, one character is gonna have a really nice hall, and my other ones will have a crap hall. Wonderful.
Seriously though, I'm not too pleased about this. I was hoping it would be account based. Now, one character is gonna have a really nice hall, and my other ones will have a crap hall. Wonderful.
lyra_song
I think minipets should affect all characters on an account's HoMs.
its the most fair, considering the special edition minis come only 1 per serial, not 1 per char.
its the most fair, considering the special edition minis come only 1 per serial, not 1 per char.