Dear Anet and Staff,
After the recent weekend event, I (and many others in the Guild Wars community) feel that the Hall of Monuments layout and design is severely flawed. Considering all the hype prior to the weekend event, we as a community were expecting more out of HoM, especially after seeing countless interviews, videos and articles on the highly anticipated feature in GW:EN.
As a community we strongly urge Anet to change the layout of the Hall of Monuments. After spending the entire weekend reading the forums, here are just a few of the many complaints, and things that SHOULD be changed BEFORE release of the next expansion.
So here we are, an organized list, that will be updated daily, if needed.
NOTE: This article is being written from the observation and gameplay of the Sneak Preview Weekend. This does not reflect how the actual game may be (we do not know if it will change).
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Current Flaws in Hall of Monuments:
1. Account Based
-Currently in the Preview Weekend, HoM is Character based. This concerns many players, as many players have multiple (or even half a dozen) characters that they wish to get to HoM, and upgrade enough to have some benefit in Guild Wars 2. Having a account based system would allow all of your accomplishments to be shown in one place, and NOT spread across many different Halls.
2. Monument of Devotion
-Currently, the Monument of Devotion shows statues of minipets and collectables. When you put a Minipet on display, it becomes assigned to that character and that character alone. That means if you want to use it with say for instance ANOTHER character on your account, you can't. This is a severe flaw in HoM, no doubt.
- Minipets should, or could be assigned to ACCOUNTS and not specific characters. I know as a player I wouldn't want to buy multiple sets of minipets just to show them off in my hall. Granted, I don't NEED to, but it would alot easier if I just had one place where all of my minipets were located, and this ties in with the Hall being account based.
3. The Monument of Honor
-Of all the areas in HoM, this one confounds me the most. First off, you can only display PvP titles in this area, and secondly, you have to be rank 9 or higher in that title to even show it.
This upsets many PvE players, as completion of a title includes a small paragraph description, such as completing a campaign, or getting the Kind of A Big Deal title track far along. And many HA'ers or GvGers who spend all of their time in PvP aren't even able to show their titles, because HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE RANK 9 IN CHAMPION? Not many.
4. The Monument of Valor
- This monument displays high end weapons from GW:EN. Many players have said that it would be nice to display whatever you want, and make it a bit more customizable.
5. The Monument of Resilience
- This monument displays ascended armors for your character...well not really. It displays the area of which you got the armor, and the type of armor it is, and then displays a sample of what the armor looks like on two random classes.
- If you spend hundreds of hours getting your Obsidian and went to display it, the last thing you would want to see is a picture of a Ritualist and his armor, instead of your own. While this flaw isn't a very big deal, it would make a whole lot more sense to simply show that characters armor, right?
6. Accessibility to HoM
- Instead of having to travel to Tyria, then Eye of the North, and then run into the portal for your HoM, why not just make it a sidebar on your character screen? Pressing H would bring up a bar that would say " Go to my Hall of Monuments" clicking it would instantly bring you to the hall, instead of spending more time going to portal after portal. This feature would be similiar to the Player Rank bar, and Hero battles.
7.Upgrades in HoM
- Title says it all. In addition to making HoM account based, adding fun NPC's for you to buy would not only be a money sink, but would be great for those who are guildless, or just want a Xunlai agent where ever they go.
More to come.
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These are just a FEW of the many complaints and constructive crit that has been said many times over the weekend on Guru. I have simply compiled them all together, and put them into an organized sticky for Anet, Gaile, and whomever else to read and consider.
If you agree, with the post, say /signed and discuss.
If you agree partially, say /agree and discuss.
If you disagree with EVERYTHING written here on this thread, say /notsigned and discuss.
If you would like something changed in this petition, please PM me or write in this thread.
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Thank you!
-Silly Warrior (Moderator)
Petition: Hall of Monuments Changes
Silly Warrior
Senrath
/agree
I agree with almost everything in that post, but as for minipets, instead of customizing them to a player/account, I think it would be better if, for them at least, it was more like storage. You can put them in to display them, then if you change your mind you can take them out. This would certainly keep people from lending the minis over and over, while still allowing people to change their mind down the road.
I agree with almost everything in that post, but as for minipets, instead of customizing them to a player/account, I think it would be better if, for them at least, it was more like storage. You can put them in to display them, then if you change your mind you can take them out. This would certainly keep people from lending the minis over and over, while still allowing people to change their mind down the road.
savage vapor 33
/signed
Pretty much well written silly. You continue to somewhat amaze me.
Pretty much well written silly. You continue to somewhat amaze me.
foo
...no. the HoM is a weak gimmick for those who can't let go.
wonderwyrm
/signed
BANG!
BANG!
Scarlett Romanov
/signed
HoM really needs some major changes. I'd also like to add that the Monument of Honor should allow you to display any title you've earned. ex. I should be able to display a title such as Tryian Explorer 60.0%. Basically, any title you can display in game should also be on display in HoM. Also, I think we should hold off on suggesting new "upgrades" or other random new things for HoM. Anet needs to "fix" or tweak HoM before taking suggestions for additional content.
The original post also lacks comments on the Monument of Fellowship. I think most people were upset that you had to "upgrade" your heroes in order to display them. Personally, I'd prefer not to waste money on armor pieces for them. They should be added to the Monument once you unlock them. Their appearance at the monument could change when you buy an armor piece.
HoM really needs some major changes. I'd also like to add that the Monument of Honor should allow you to display any title you've earned. ex. I should be able to display a title such as Tryian Explorer 60.0%. Basically, any title you can display in game should also be on display in HoM. Also, I think we should hold off on suggesting new "upgrades" or other random new things for HoM. Anet needs to "fix" or tweak HoM before taking suggestions for additional content.
The original post also lacks comments on the Monument of Fellowship. I think most people were upset that you had to "upgrade" your heroes in order to display them. Personally, I'd prefer not to waste money on armor pieces for them. They should be added to the Monument once you unlock them. Their appearance at the monument could change when you buy an armor piece.
Silly Warrior
Quote:
Originally Posted by savage vapor 33
/signed
Pretty much well written silly. You continue to somewhat amaze me. Lol, Savage...ex-alliance buddy....
Pretty much well written silly. You continue to somewhat amaze me. Lol, Savage...ex-alliance buddy....
Dessie
/signed
I totaly agree, the worst flaw is that minipets become customized to characters imho.
But the rest should be solved aswell!
I totaly agree, the worst flaw is that minipets become customized to characters imho.
But the rest should be solved aswell!
Stub
/signed
I have....8 lvl 20 PvE characters, and each of them, has their respective titles, non-account based.
I thought the Hall of Monuments would be my way of compressing that, however, as it is, I am going to have 8 Severely disappointing HoMs.
Thank you for writing your petition.
Edit- Just thought of the Festivals, and the special hats. If you notice my Avatar, it was taken in the magical time period of Nov.1 2005. I want to show off my many festival *Hats* too!
I have....8 lvl 20 PvE characters, and each of them, has their respective titles, non-account based.
I thought the Hall of Monuments would be my way of compressing that, however, as it is, I am going to have 8 Severely disappointing HoMs.
Thank you for writing your petition.
Edit- Just thought of the Festivals, and the special hats. If you notice my Avatar, it was taken in the magical time period of Nov.1 2005. I want to show off my many festival *Hats* too!
ShadowbaneX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
- This monument displays ascended armors for your character...well not really. It displays the area of which you got the armor, and the type of armor it is, and then displays a sample of what the armor looks like on two random classes.
- If you spend hundreds of hours getting your Obsidian and went to display it, the last thing you would want to see is a picture of a Ritualist and his armor, instead of your own. While this flaw isn't a very big deal, it would make a whole lot more sense to simply show that characters armor, right? One thing I'd like to add to this area is that some people like to make their own armour combinations. For instance my assassin uses mostly elite canthan, but has luxon leggings and a vabbian mask. My mesmer has an ancient & vabbian mix, etc. Not only would I like for it to display the correct class for the armour, (my monk was rather shocked to see ritualist and assassin obsidian armour instead of her own) but I'd also like for it to be able to display the combos a given character has, such as my mesmer or my assassin.
lynn yi
/agree
One thing I would add though is that I would love to see the Fellowship monument let any hero or pet you have acquired be displayed, but if you have acquired special armor for them, allow THAT to be displayed as well.
Honestly with hero statues, I'd also like to see more of them on the stage even if they have to be a lot smaller hehe.
One thing I would add though is that I would love to see the Fellowship monument let any hero or pet you have acquired be displayed, but if you have acquired special armor for them, allow THAT to be displayed as well.
Honestly with hero statues, I'd also like to see more of them on the stage even if they have to be a lot smaller hehe.
Timexy
/signed
There is still a contradictory thing: The HoM isn't account based, but the PvP Titles are.
There is still a contradictory thing: The HoM isn't account based, but the PvP Titles are.
Everblight
/signed
Without knowing what the specific mechanism/affect this will have for GW2, I agree with much of what was said here.
Additional points:
1. There are several of the more popular minipets that are account-based (the Grawl and Asura both come to mind, as I doubt multiple keys can be used to have more than one). Locking those minipets to a certain character seems an unreasonable sacrifice.
2. I fully support decreasing the requirement for the Monument of Honor. I am a roleplayer first and foremost, and as such my character titles mostly reflect the character I am playing (Pathfinder for my ranger, Seeker of Wisdom for my necro, etc.). I should be able to display those accomplishments with pride, not have to break character concept, or not play certain characters at the expense of another just to achieve a certain title.
3. I agree with the sentiment that the Monument of Valor should display what ever weapon you choose. While we probably have not seen the endgame GWEN weapons, I think most who have one will agree an Urgoz Longbow or the Factions endgame weapons are of sufficient difficulty to get that they warrant display. Also, should we anticipate a similar problem to the Monument of Resilience in that they may not actually be our weapon that is displayed, but a generic representation?
4. Lastly, the idea of buying upgrades (Xunlai agent, Priest of Balthazar) for the HoM, and having a hotkey to jump there, is an awesome one, and an improvement that would be most welcome. Also, allow us to post our own "guards" instead of Stonehealer and Vekk at the door...I would be more confident with Goren guarding my stuff.
Without knowing what the specific mechanism/affect this will have for GW2, I agree with much of what was said here.
Additional points:
1. There are several of the more popular minipets that are account-based (the Grawl and Asura both come to mind, as I doubt multiple keys can be used to have more than one). Locking those minipets to a certain character seems an unreasonable sacrifice.
2. I fully support decreasing the requirement for the Monument of Honor. I am a roleplayer first and foremost, and as such my character titles mostly reflect the character I am playing (Pathfinder for my ranger, Seeker of Wisdom for my necro, etc.). I should be able to display those accomplishments with pride, not have to break character concept, or not play certain characters at the expense of another just to achieve a certain title.
3. I agree with the sentiment that the Monument of Valor should display what ever weapon you choose. While we probably have not seen the endgame GWEN weapons, I think most who have one will agree an Urgoz Longbow or the Factions endgame weapons are of sufficient difficulty to get that they warrant display. Also, should we anticipate a similar problem to the Monument of Resilience in that they may not actually be our weapon that is displayed, but a generic representation?
4. Lastly, the idea of buying upgrades (Xunlai agent, Priest of Balthazar) for the HoM, and having a hotkey to jump there, is an awesome one, and an improvement that would be most welcome. Also, allow us to post our own "guards" instead of Stonehealer and Vekk at the door...I would be more confident with Goren guarding my stuff.
Jamison0071
I was just about to make a post just like this, a well organized and 'friendly' approach to getting changes made. Rather than swearing and cursing Anet. Good job.
oh and /signed too all the changes.
oh and /signed too all the changes.
Croix_Raul
/Signed
Quote "HoM is a weak gimmick for those who can't let go"
LoL
Quote "HoM is a weak gimmick for those who can't let go"
LoL
flipside3
/signed
I had hoped the HoM would be more like a massive storage locker. Like the mini-pets. Instead of a copy of my mini-pet on the shelf... I'd like to put the actual pet there so I don't have to carry it around in my inventory.
Same with armor. If I could put the actual set of armor on a rack in the HoM, then I could buy more armor sets since the extra set wouldn't be clogging my inventory.
I was expecting a place that could store tons of stuff, and organize it for me. I had also hoped it would say list all the quests I had accomplished across all the campaigns, showing me what was still left to do. But that was just a random dream.
I had hoped the HoM would be more like a massive storage locker. Like the mini-pets. Instead of a copy of my mini-pet on the shelf... I'd like to put the actual pet there so I don't have to carry it around in my inventory.
Same with armor. If I could put the actual set of armor on a rack in the HoM, then I could buy more armor sets since the extra set wouldn't be clogging my inventory.
I was expecting a place that could store tons of stuff, and organize it for me. I had also hoped it would say list all the quests I had accomplished across all the campaigns, showing me what was still left to do. But that was just a random dream.
nbajammer
/signed
Why change game mechanics for some things (minipets) to enable a feature in a game that's still in development? Change GW2, not the existing game. I am not going to force myself to PvP all the time to get the r9 PvP titles to place in the HoM. Silly, you've said it all better than I ever could.
/signed a million times over.
Why change game mechanics for some things (minipets) to enable a feature in a game that's still in development? Change GW2, not the existing game. I am not going to force myself to PvP all the time to get the r9 PvP titles to place in the HoM. Silly, you've said it all better than I ever could.
/signed a million times over.
Ritualistof the Mists
I agree with what is beeing said here. the mini pet thing gets me I want a place to put my mini pets so they are not in my stoarge but i dont want them customized cause when i am hard up for money i go right tothose to sell. and being account based is a great idea to me it would be like your own guild hall. hopfully they will change it
Chthon
I find this post surprisingly non-combative and well grounded.
/signed on all points.
/signed on all points.
JASON626
/signed
I'd like an extra tab in storage added for Gwen like we recieved awhile back for each campaign we own.
I'd like an extra tab in storage added for Gwen like we recieved awhile back for each campaign we own.
snaek
i like character based
cuz each of my charas have different achievements
i even understand teh customization of mini-pets
so that u cant jus borrow pets to have everysingle pet in ur collection
without having to spend a penny
monument of fellowship could use some improvements...
i like teh idea that u need to have upgraded armour,
cuz its supposed to display ur accomplishments
(and jus havin heroes is no accomplishment 0__o)
and i have gotten all teh armour upgrades for my heroes,
so im glad to be able to show it off....
only teh statues show teh heroes in their normal armour
shouldnt they be in their exotic armours? o___0
2nd thing,
like i said, ive gotten all my heroes armour upgrades
now, theres no specific way to choose which 5 heroes to display
it seems to be either random or a set choice
ive been clicking "rearrange statues" button for a loong time
and couldnt get teh 5 heroes i wanted on there >___<
so plz, give an option to display exactly which heroes u want in which spot
also, all my heroes have lvl20 pets...
plz let me display those too!
and not jus my single one pet
i suppose u could release and tame all pets to put in ur monument
but i have a dire black widow that i've had forever,
and im not gonna release that >__<
cuz each of my charas have different achievements
i even understand teh customization of mini-pets
so that u cant jus borrow pets to have everysingle pet in ur collection
without having to spend a penny
monument of fellowship could use some improvements...
i like teh idea that u need to have upgraded armour,
cuz its supposed to display ur accomplishments
(and jus havin heroes is no accomplishment 0__o)
and i have gotten all teh armour upgrades for my heroes,
so im glad to be able to show it off....
only teh statues show teh heroes in their normal armour
shouldnt they be in their exotic armours? o___0
2nd thing,
like i said, ive gotten all my heroes armour upgrades
now, theres no specific way to choose which 5 heroes to display
it seems to be either random or a set choice
ive been clicking "rearrange statues" button for a loong time
and couldnt get teh 5 heroes i wanted on there >___<
so plz, give an option to display exactly which heroes u want in which spot
also, all my heroes have lvl20 pets...
plz let me display those too!
and not jus my single one pet
i suppose u could release and tame all pets to put in ur monument
but i have a dire black widow that i've had forever,
and im not gonna release that >__<
murasamenobunaga
/signed, change is definetly needed.
Sentience
I'm personally not too worried since theres a long way for GW2 and it's just a test weekend, but those changes are all changes I'd personally like to see.
Also on the FoW armor deal... I didn't bother grabbing a helmet for my Warrior FoW (Nor did I for the 15k glads/luxon), I doubt it would happen but I'd like it if I could still put my FoW on display even if i don't have helmet. I guess what I'm saying is I would like it if you could lack 1 armor piece and be able to display the set still.
Also on the FoW armor deal... I didn't bother grabbing a helmet for my Warrior FoW (Nor did I for the 15k glads/luxon), I doubt it would happen but I'd like it if I could still put my FoW on display even if i don't have helmet. I guess what I'm saying is I would like it if you could lack 1 armor piece and be able to display the set still.
SirDigi
/agree
I would really like to show off some of the gold weapons that I have spent so much gold to upgrade to perfect. >.<
I would really like to show off some of the gold weapons that I have spent so much gold to upgrade to perfect. >.<
Jumping Is Uselss
/signed
Atm HoM is a big let down. Armors are all messed up. And requires high PvP rank titles, while ignoring PvE titles.
Atm HoM is a big let down. Armors are all messed up. And requires high PvP rank titles, while ignoring PvE titles.
reverse_oreo
/signed, very well written just about fixes every flaw in the HoM
Ace2001
/signed
Though I understand why they did it character based; They probably want you to work on the character you want to take to GW2 and not be able to take half a dozen or more with all those benefits. >_>;; Or something.
Though I understand why they did it character based; They probably want you to work on the character you want to take to GW2 and not be able to take half a dozen or more with all those benefits. >_>;; Or something.
Inger
/signed
I was so dissapointed when I put my elite druid's armor in my hall...
It went like this:
I click to button to put my armor in my hall, a cutscene starts, my heart races, a smile gathers on my face, the screen zooms in... and I look to see a statue of my amazing drui.... ELEMENTALIST ARMOR?!?!
I was so dissapointed when I put my elite druid's armor in my hall...
It went like this:
I click to button to put my armor in my hall, a cutscene starts, my heart races, a smile gathers on my face, the screen zooms in... and I look to see a statue of my amazing drui.... ELEMENTALIST ARMOR?!?!
thor hammerbane
/signed
-Acc Based: Rather see One full and impressive hall than a few empty uggos.
-Devotion:I have 1 minipet per char, would be better to have 4 in hall than just 1.
-Honor: Display titles you want. Not every1 weighs titles the same..
-Valor: If i want a hatchet displayed, why not
-Resilience: Rofl..What were they smoking?
-Acc Based: Rather see One full and impressive hall than a few empty uggos.
-Devotion:I have 1 minipet per char, would be better to have 4 in hall than just 1.
-Honor: Display titles you want. Not every1 weighs titles the same..
-Valor: If i want a hatchet displayed, why not
-Resilience: Rofl..What were they smoking?
Abyss1
/notsigned
Ok I actually think HoM is acting the way it is intended (ok so minus a few small bugs like the armor)
But as I understood the idea behind HoM it is only to reserve the name and the ascociated stats of that name, armors and other bonusses I just see as a bonus to that.
But HoM as I know it was intended is just to have your character in GW2 name accoplishments weapons and armors, well you have that. So it customizes your mini, I think that is logic as there will be new mini's etc in GW2 so they have to control the mrket somehow and this is the best way ever I think.
But bottom line conclusions have been drawn from a imcomplete preview weekend wait till release + 1 month and see what the status ius then and changes etc and then complain about what is intended how.
Ok I actually think HoM is acting the way it is intended (ok so minus a few small bugs like the armor)
But as I understood the idea behind HoM it is only to reserve the name and the ascociated stats of that name, armors and other bonusses I just see as a bonus to that.
But HoM as I know it was intended is just to have your character in GW2 name accoplishments weapons and armors, well you have that. So it customizes your mini, I think that is logic as there will be new mini's etc in GW2 so they have to control the mrket somehow and this is the best way ever I think.
But bottom line conclusions have been drawn from a imcomplete preview weekend wait till release + 1 month and see what the status ius then and changes etc and then complain about what is intended how.
Feral Lightningpaws
Especially regarding the The Monument of Honor, it would be good if it's available for more titles to be displayed. I wonder how many people sweat out on Lengendary Cartographer etc. and found out that they can't even display it on their Hall of Monuments and people who don't PVP that much.
More control on the arrangement of our heroes statues would be great instead of having to rely on random arrangements.
More control on the arrangement of our heroes statues would be great instead of having to rely on random arrangements.
Kai Bryon
/signed
...discuss...
Account based - This isn't a big deal to me personally, but I see where to some people it would be and I certainly would not be opposed to it.
Devotion - Please no customization to the character. I would personally prefer no customization at all since 'my collection' of mini pets is actually mine and my husband's and I don't want to fight over 'custody'.
Fellowship - Make them smaller, but please have spaces for all heroes to be displayed, or at least be able to show which heroes you want on display. Please remove the requirement of needing the upgraded armor in order to show them at all.
Honor - PvE titles please! And I want to be able to show off all of my titles, not just the max ones.
Resilience - I would much rather see my armor than a random sampling of that same kind of armor. Really I'd rather see my armor regardless of whether its 15k/ascended or not...there are many cheaper versions that I prefer over their more expensive counterparts.
Valor - So my Ghial's Staff isn't good enough for this rack? My Dwayna's Grace? *pout* Let me show off what I want to show off please.
Accessibility - It would be nice if there were a variety of access points to the Hall.
...discuss...
Account based - This isn't a big deal to me personally, but I see where to some people it would be and I certainly would not be opposed to it.
Devotion - Please no customization to the character. I would personally prefer no customization at all since 'my collection' of mini pets is actually mine and my husband's and I don't want to fight over 'custody'.
Fellowship - Make them smaller, but please have spaces for all heroes to be displayed, or at least be able to show which heroes you want on display. Please remove the requirement of needing the upgraded armor in order to show them at all.
Honor - PvE titles please! And I want to be able to show off all of my titles, not just the max ones.
Resilience - I would much rather see my armor than a random sampling of that same kind of armor. Really I'd rather see my armor regardless of whether its 15k/ascended or not...there are many cheaper versions that I prefer over their more expensive counterparts.
Valor - So my Ghial's Staff isn't good enough for this rack? My Dwayna's Grace? *pout* Let me show off what I want to show off please.
Accessibility - It would be nice if there were a variety of access points to the Hall.
Vanessa Dwager
/agree
I want the hall to recognize my Pve titles.
I want the hall to recognize my Pve titles.
snaek
sounds like ppl want more of a "show n tell" than a "trophy case"...
we're here to show hard-earned achievements,
not jus simple possessions that r cool
and anet is pretty lazy and slow wit things
and they do have their hands full wit a lot of things, including gw2
more improvements will come, im sure of it...
jus be patient
/not signed
we're here to show hard-earned achievements,
not jus simple possessions that r cool
and anet is pretty lazy and slow wit things
and they do have their hands full wit a lot of things, including gw2
more improvements will come, im sure of it...
jus be patient
/not signed
arcanemacabre
/signed
Very well said, Silly.
Very well said, Silly.
grrrrrenth
Quote:
Originally posted by Everblight:Without knowing what the specific mechanism/affect this will have for GW2, I agree with much of what was said here.
Additional points:
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2. I fully support decreasing the requirement for the Monument of Honor. I am a roleplayer first and foremost, and as such my character titles mostly reflect the character I am playing (Pathfinder for my ranger, Seeker of Wisdom for my necro, etc.). I should be able to display those accomplishments with pride, not have to break character concept, or not play certain characters at the expense of another just to achieve a certain title.
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4. Lastly, the idea of buying upgrades (Xunlai agent, Priest of Balthazar) for the HoM, and having a hotkey to jump there, is an awesome one, and an improvement that would be most welcome. Also, allow us to post our own "guards" instead of Stonehealer and Vekk at the door...I would be more confident with Goren guarding my stuff.
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Originally posted by Abyss1 But bottom line conclusions have been drawn from a imcomplete preview weekend wait till release + 1 month and see what the status ius then and changes etc and then complain about what is intended how. abyss1 makes a good point. should definately refer back to this thread after a month or so and see what (if anything) needs to be fixed after the release. after everything is said and done though.... /signed
Vitas
Normally, I wouldn't get involved in questioning ANet game design decisions; after all, it is their creation to do with how they will. However...
Originally Posted by Zexion
As it is designed, here is my HoM scenario: 8 different HoM's that are strictly separated and cannot be consolidated in any way. 1.) My Main - Lvl 20 Monk; 1 or 2 minipets and [maybe] a brown bear I've capped. I thought about getting an elite armor, but I don't have a Rit character and don't care to see expensive and time-consuming Elite 15k Monk armor on an Elementalist. 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ 2.) Lvl 20 Paragon; 1 or 2 minipets, a couple hero's I've upgraded, a flamingo I capped when I showed a guildie how to capture a pet, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. Incredibly, this would be my most populated HoM. __________________________________________________ _____ 3.) Lvl 20 Warrior; 1 or 2 minipets, 0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ 4.) Lvl 20 Elementalist; 1 or 2 minipets, 0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ 5.) Lvl 1-5 Elementalist; 1 minipet, 0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ 6.) Lvl 1-5 Dervish; 1 minipet, 0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ 7.) Lvl 1-5 Monk; 1 minipet, 0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ 8.) Lvl 20, Rank 0 PVP Paragon; 1 minipet, (this was created for the NF Preview PVP event and never used again except for storage.) 0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed. __________________________________________________ _____ There should be a creative way to consolidate and add titles and heroes and weapons on an account basis without creating holes or exploits. I've read a couple ideas on these forums that should be workable. In this case I have to humbly submit a: /signed. As the situation now exists, I have no real reason apart from GW2 minipet bonuses (which isn't that important to me) to even bother with the HoM at all. I will only visit my HoM the limited number of times it will take to complete the Gwen/Ogden/Vekk and Scrying Pool quests. I will have no need to ever visit it afterward. EDIT: Just read Zexion's post: Quote: ... So why does ANet decide what a "monument" is?
If a person wants to display, say, Ghial's Staff, to remind him of the first green he farmed, he can't? That is a monument. Something made to forever remind of a deed. ... _Zexion I have to agree to this sentiment: I would love to be able to display all the Tomb Greens I've achieved as a way to memorialize all of the time I've spent training there and my expertise, teamwork and pwnage of the Primeval Tomb of the Kings! -V Vermilion Okeanos
/signed
I want to see HoM pull something like tournament NPC do. One name represent all your characters, and make the customization into that name. Then you shouldn't have problem with people trading away mini, etc to fill up HoM, as it is customized to your account. As for weapons, I am fine with it being character based. But, when I get to GW2, I better not see that I can only receive the bonus one out of 13059807 characters. Hero shrine, I don't mind it being character based that much... but I will ALWAYS welcome an account based there. Armor shrine, I don't mind this being character based neither. However, I want to see MY armor, and not by armor sets. I love my armor mix, and I don't see a reason why I got to be left out with creativity and innovation. But, if Anet end up to not care... I will be sadden but not down. As for title shrine... I think that thing is the biggest bogus there is in HoM.
Zexion
It is a "hall of monuments", not a "hall of epeen".
So why does ANet decide what a "monument" is? If a person wants to display, say, Ghial's Staff, to remind him of the first green he farmed, he can't? That is a monument. Something made to forever remind of a deed. This is merely Titles 2.0 _Zexion
Atlas Ravens
/agree
Make the mini's monument account based without any customization. Keep the rest character based and allow PvE max titles such as Legendary* to be displayed. |
