Norn Tournament Builds, Tips, Questions [Merged]
Hard Rugsteek
lol, so few sin builds. What about the shadow form build where it is kept up? has anyone used that? i personally believe it would be a killer in the 1v1.
Mynt
Since there are so few sin builds, I'll show mine...
1. (Elite) Palm Strike
2. Critical Strike
3. Twisting Fangs
4. Blinding Powder
5. Shadow Refuge
6. Critical Defenses
7. Critical Eye
8. Critical Agility
Attributes:
11 Dagger Mastery
6+1 Shadow Arts
12+1+3 Critical Strikes
Zealous Daggers help..
Nothing fancy... and pretty straight forward. For the most part this is just to beat Bison. It can be difficult to get to him with this build as enemies like Mhenlo, and Argo and others that can blind will cause you problems.
Beating Bison is also not 100% certain, critical defenses doesnt block 100% of the time, you can get unlucky and get creamed. Irresistible Blow will still hit you... block or not.. so you have to understand that. For using the build it's pretty simple. Before the fight, critical eye, run through the gates, critical agility, critical defenses, charge him. Palm Strike, blinding powder, twisting fangs... Try to keep shadow refuge up whenever possible so when he does hit you're regening. Time your attacks after irresistible blow so youre not knocked down and interupted. You should crit enough to keep critical defenses up at all times which will keep you from being hit by alot of attacks. Just keep repeating the attacks, palm strike twisting fangs, palm strike critical strike. Eventually he'll go down... Proof that it works below.. lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Essa/gw401.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Essa/gw402.jpg
1. (Elite) Palm Strike
2. Critical Strike
3. Twisting Fangs
4. Blinding Powder
5. Shadow Refuge
6. Critical Defenses
7. Critical Eye
8. Critical Agility
Attributes:
11 Dagger Mastery
6+1 Shadow Arts
12+1+3 Critical Strikes
Zealous Daggers help..
Nothing fancy... and pretty straight forward. For the most part this is just to beat Bison. It can be difficult to get to him with this build as enemies like Mhenlo, and Argo and others that can blind will cause you problems.
Beating Bison is also not 100% certain, critical defenses doesnt block 100% of the time, you can get unlucky and get creamed. Irresistible Blow will still hit you... block or not.. so you have to understand that. For using the build it's pretty simple. Before the fight, critical eye, run through the gates, critical agility, critical defenses, charge him. Palm Strike, blinding powder, twisting fangs... Try to keep shadow refuge up whenever possible so when he does hit you're regening. Time your attacks after irresistible blow so youre not knocked down and interupted. You should crit enough to keep critical defenses up at all times which will keep you from being hit by alot of attacks. Just keep repeating the attacks, palm strike twisting fangs, palm strike critical strike. Eventually he'll go down... Proof that it works below.. lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Essa/gw401.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Essa/gw402.jpg
Rolgalthor
I use this build on my necro. I've won enough to get several crowns.
N/P
14 Death (I dont used superiors any more unless MMing)
10 Spear (Spear is req 10)
8 Curses (or whatever you get from the remainder)
1 Barbed Spear
2 Slayers Spear
3 Virulence
4 Necrosis
5 Vile Miasma
6 You Move Like a Dwarf
7 Rend Enchantments
8 Finish Him
- There isnt any need for healing skills since my opponents are dead long before I take alot of damage. It also helps having 610 health. However this health amount means you can only user slayers spear on Bison. (More on that below.)
- When fighting Mhenlo, Alesia, and other regen users, apply all your degen first. Then strip their enchants. When they try to use HB or Mystic Regen. Hit them with YMlaD.
- Be sure to interupt Melonni's Avatar.
- When fighting Bison, its all about skill timing. First and for most do NOT let him hit you (aka run away from him). When fight starts hit him with Slayers and Vile Miasma. He will immediately use the purge signet after going bear. When he tries to purge, interupt with YMlaD then put on Virulence. Since YMlaD recharges in 10 and Purge recharges in 20, you can always interupt his signet and keep him degening if you time it right. Cast Necrosis as you can but remember to him not let him hit you. Reapply Virulence and VM as necessary. Remember to conserve your energy so you can interupt his purge signet. Once he is around 30-40% health hit "Finish Him" and the fight should be over. If not, hit him with another necrosis or two.
N/P
14 Death (I dont used superiors any more unless MMing)
10 Spear (Spear is req 10)
8 Curses (or whatever you get from the remainder)
1 Barbed Spear
2 Slayers Spear
3 Virulence
4 Necrosis
5 Vile Miasma
6 You Move Like a Dwarf
7 Rend Enchantments
8 Finish Him
- There isnt any need for healing skills since my opponents are dead long before I take alot of damage. It also helps having 610 health. However this health amount means you can only user slayers spear on Bison. (More on that below.)
- When fighting Mhenlo, Alesia, and other regen users, apply all your degen first. Then strip their enchants. When they try to use HB or Mystic Regen. Hit them with YMlaD.
- Be sure to interupt Melonni's Avatar.
- When fighting Bison, its all about skill timing. First and for most do NOT let him hit you (aka run away from him). When fight starts hit him with Slayers and Vile Miasma. He will immediately use the purge signet after going bear. When he tries to purge, interupt with YMlaD then put on Virulence. Since YMlaD recharges in 10 and Purge recharges in 20, you can always interupt his signet and keep him degening if you time it right. Cast Necrosis as you can but remember to him not let him hit you. Reapply Virulence and VM as necessary. Remember to conserve your energy so you can interupt his purge signet. Once he is around 30-40% health hit "Finish Him" and the fight should be over. If not, hit him with another necrosis or two.
BlackSephir
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hard Rugsteek
lol, so few sin builds. What about the shadow form build where it is kept up? has anyone used that? i personally believe it would be a killer in the 1v1.
Meh, try this one.
Beguiling Haze [E], Sneak Attack, Wild Strike, Horns of the Ox, Falling Spider, Twisting Fangs, Critical Agility, Way of Perfection.
Kills casters and meele
Beguiling Haze [E], Sneak Attack, Wild Strike, Horns of the Ox, Falling Spider, Twisting Fangs, Critical Agility, Way of Perfection.
Kills casters and meele
flyinhigh
using all spirits and putting them on the second line in the doorway, totally owns everyone. just take "you move like a dwarf" to interupt his bear form and your good to go.
akh
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyinhigh
using all spirits and putting them on the second line in the doorway, totally owns everyone. just take "you move like a dwarf" to interupt his bear form and your good to go.
I didn't even use "you move like a dwarf". Six offensive spirits, painful bond, offering - spawn spirits, pull, hex, /dance 
lakatz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dralspire
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Anguish[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Union[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Displacement[/skill]
Cast Union and Displacement in the waiting area, step up to the line but don't cross it or your enemy comes running. Cast Pain, Wanderlust, Bloodsong, Anguish, Shadowsong (notice those that live longer get cast first), then cross the line, have your enemy come running, cast Painful Bond ... and on to the next level.
I usually placed my entire bunch in the right corner of the doorway, basically right on the front line of the entrance door, it seems to avoid a blind spot. One exception is Razah, if you get him, sprint out, cast Anguish within his range, hex him with Painful Bond and move out of his range.
If you get the heavy ele hitters, step away from your spirits or they get AoEed. I just hexed and kept moving from the left to the right wall and back.
Shadowsong is reasonably important for Bison Man, and in his case, I kept recasting spirits, just in case, plus obviously rehexing.
Last but not least, it's 12/12 Channeling/Communing, so any /Ri will do. Weapon sets are your friend, being able to switch to +15/-1 and back helps.
I printed out all the ranger builds in this thread... and then this build. I went through all the ranger builds... one by one... and mine still got me further than any of them... but I still couldn't beat Magni with mine. So, after they all failed, mine included, I tried this one (above). I summoned all the spirits, watched my energy go back up to 13, hit C+spacebar, then Painful Bond, and before it even finished activating I saw the big green Victory in the window... almost every single time. Some opponents would last a couple seconds longer. Magni, of course, was a bit more of a challenge. But he was really funnier than he was a challenge. I just lured him to spirits if he came toward me, then ran away and summoned another one or two. It was like leading him around by the nose. After a short time of that, I saw the big green Decisive Victory in the window.
Thanks Dralspire.
majikmajikmajik
i run ursan blessing with offensive spirits and painful bond. i set them up in the door area inbetween the 2 lines, then run out a lil, cast hex, then activate ursan and spam the first attack. also help to have heart of the norn for the added health. ( for bison wait until shadowsong hits him, he will use purge signet, then hex him and activate ursan)
btw im ranger
btw im ranger
lakatz
Quote:
Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik
i run ursan blessing with offensive spirits and painful bond. i set them up in the door area inbetween the 2 lines, then run out a lil, cast hex, then activate ursan and spam the first attack. also help to have heart of the norn for the added health. ( for bison wait until shadowsong hits him, he will use purge signet, then hex him and activate ursan)
btw im ranger
Thanks... I'll try that too.
btw im ranger
Thanks... I'll try that too.
Captain Arne Is PRO
fire attunement
nuke
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/dance
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/dance
Hagen Nordheim
Erim Elidor's skill set
[skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]escape[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]dryder's defenses[/skill][skill]lightning reflexes[/skill][skill]whirling defense[/skill]
Expertise 8+1.......................................9
Wilderness Survival 10+1+1....................12
Swordsmanship 12................................12
Just use Sneak Attack instead of Gash to blind Bison and avoid most of his attacks, you will always be with 75% chance to avoid attacks (from the stances), and can apply -7 health degeneration. He dies in about one minute with this build (its the one I use for pve too)
[skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]escape[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]dryder's defenses[/skill][skill]lightning reflexes[/skill][skill]whirling defense[/skill]
Expertise 8+1.......................................9
Wilderness Survival 10+1+1....................12
Swordsmanship 12................................12
Just use Sneak Attack instead of Gash to blind Bison and avoid most of his attacks, you will always be with 75% chance to avoid attacks (from the stances), and can apply -7 health degeneration. He dies in about one minute with this build (its the one I use for pve too)
gmonster2
As a rit i use 16 communing and 13 channeling
Pain vampirism bloodsong anguish shadowsong, painful bond, asura scan(yes 65% more damage comes from your spirit attacks) move like a dwarf(cripple knockdown)...
Lay spirits between the door lines move in and cast painful bond usually 2 volleys from the spirits is a win which takes about 4 seconds.
For bison in the last round hex with pb and asura as he get s close use knockdown and cripple 9 secs he will never touch u and now cant catch u altho hes blinded as well, he will stop to use purge signet so kite and reapply asura(5 secs recharge) , he will be dead in under 10 secs...
As there is no energy managment just lay spirits in order as above longest lasting to least and then wait till u have around 25 energy regenerated b4 tackling the bison...
Pain vampirism bloodsong anguish shadowsong, painful bond, asura scan(yes 65% more damage comes from your spirit attacks) move like a dwarf(cripple knockdown)...
Lay spirits between the door lines move in and cast painful bond usually 2 volleys from the spirits is a win which takes about 4 seconds.
For bison in the last round hex with pb and asura as he get s close use knockdown and cripple 9 secs he will never touch u and now cant catch u altho hes blinded as well, he will stop to use purge signet so kite and reapply asura(5 secs recharge) , he will be dead in under 10 secs...
As there is no energy managment just lay spirits in order as above longest lasting to least and then wait till u have around 25 energy regenerated b4 tackling the bison...
kaheiyeh
The BEST build that is possible with ANY profession, even a Warrior!
The Any/Rt Spirit Spammer Build
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Earthbind[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
(Note: Vampirism is a Sunspear rank skill)
12 Communing
12 Channeling Magic
3 (Your Weapon Attribute)(ie. 3 Axe Mastery for an Axe warrior)
Bring along your usual armor, but bring a +15 energy staff at first to cast down all the spirits in order from LEFT to RIGHT. Cast the spirits between the door gap so it doesn't close on you yet. After casting all, switch to a zealous mod weapon and hack and slash away at your target, only stopping to cast Painful Bond on the enemy.
The Any/Rt Spirit Spammer Build
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Earthbind[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
(Note: Vampirism is a Sunspear rank skill)
12 Communing
12 Channeling Magic
3 (Your Weapon Attribute)(ie. 3 Axe Mastery for an Axe warrior)
Bring along your usual armor, but bring a +15 energy staff at first to cast down all the spirits in order from LEFT to RIGHT. Cast the spirits between the door gap so it doesn't close on you yet. After casting all, switch to a zealous mod weapon and hack and slash away at your target, only stopping to cast Painful Bond on the enemy.
Seren!ty
This is the build I used as a monk primary, smiting is fun ^^
[skill]Spirit Bond[/skill][skill]Spear of Light[/skill][skill]Bane Signet[/skill][skill]Stonesoul Strike[/skill][skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill][skill]Holy Strike[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]
Attributes: 12 (+1+1) Smiting, 12 (+1) Protection Prayers, spare in Divine Favor.
Used this build a couple of rounds and it works great. Only Razah gave me some trouble, second try I just rushed in and started off with SoJ to interrupt his first spirit (Wanderlust), then just spam the rest till he's dead.
Melee opponents: Melee opponents drop fast; just press 1-5 and repeat some skills to drop them.
Casters opponents: Some casters stop casting for a while and engage you by simply wanding you, when they do start your chain and they should drop. Monks are a pain but you can take them down. Other casters will only cast spells (Cynn for example) but they should give you no trouble, just use your skills and keep yourself alive.
Magni was easy, keep prot spirit up and use Spirit Bond when your health drops below 200 (without a deep wound from crushing blow) and use the skills, just don't spam them or you'll run out of energy and get yourself killed.
[skill]Spirit Bond[/skill][skill]Spear of Light[/skill][skill]Bane Signet[/skill][skill]Stonesoul Strike[/skill][skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill][skill]Holy Strike[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]
Attributes: 12 (+1+1) Smiting, 12 (+1) Protection Prayers, spare in Divine Favor.
Used this build a couple of rounds and it works great. Only Razah gave me some trouble, second try I just rushed in and started off with SoJ to interrupt his first spirit (Wanderlust), then just spam the rest till he's dead.
Melee opponents: Melee opponents drop fast; just press 1-5 and repeat some skills to drop them.
Casters opponents: Some casters stop casting for a while and engage you by simply wanding you, when they do start your chain and they should drop. Monks are a pain but you can take them down. Other casters will only cast spells (Cynn for example) but they should give you no trouble, just use your skills and keep yourself alive.
Magni was easy, keep prot spirit up and use Spirit Bond when your health drops below 200 (without a deep wound from crushing blow) and use the skills, just don't spam them or you'll run out of energy and get yourself killed.
Vahn Roi
Danika, Argo, Mehnlo, Zetukah, Xandra.
How the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do you beat these guys with a warrior? Non of the builds here have worked for me.
I don't want to hear "you need practice" I want to hear how all you with you're Grenth's balance builds managed.
Ok, anyone who has beaten this stupid thing got by purely by their own luck. You were obviously fortunate enough to face a string of similar enemies. It's not possible to design a build that is well rounded enough to kill a string of completely different enemies such as I have faced. Anything with a spammable heal beats your typical warrior builds for this hands down. Anything with blind beats you. Anything with weakness beats you. Anything with KD beats you. Seems like all you can do is auto attack against anything that isn't wielding a melee weapon.
What the hell.
How the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do you beat these guys with a warrior? Non of the builds here have worked for me.
I don't want to hear "you need practice" I want to hear how all you with you're Grenth's balance builds managed.
Ok, anyone who has beaten this stupid thing got by purely by their own luck. You were obviously fortunate enough to face a string of similar enemies. It's not possible to design a build that is well rounded enough to kill a string of completely different enemies such as I have faced. Anything with a spammable heal beats your typical warrior builds for this hands down. Anything with blind beats you. Anything with weakness beats you. Anything with KD beats you. Seems like all you can do is auto attack against anything that isn't wielding a melee weapon.
What the hell.
Cherng Butter
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
Ok, anyone who has beaten this stupid thing got by purely by their own luck. You were obviously fortunate enough to face a string of similar enemies. It's not possible to design a build that is well rounded enough to kill a string of completely different enemies such as I have faced. Anything with a spammable heal beats your typical warrior builds for this hands down. Anything with blind beats you. Anything with weakness beats you. Anything with KD beats you. Seems like all you can do is auto attack against anything that isn't wielding a melee weapon.
What the hell. Not true. I've beaten most everything (6 win streaks in a row before stopping forever, I guess) with Sever, Gash, Sun and Moon, Distracting Blow, Heal Sig, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Grenth's Balance.
You can overpower most enemies. I have -40% blind reduction too...interrupt any self heal and you're golden. Spike them before they can heal. Ta da.
What the hell. Not true. I've beaten most everything (6 win streaks in a row before stopping forever, I guess) with Sever, Gash, Sun and Moon, Distracting Blow, Heal Sig, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Grenth's Balance.
You can overpower most enemies. I have -40% blind reduction too...interrupt any self heal and you're golden. Spike them before they can heal. Ta da.
Vahn Roi
I'll give that a try then
h4mx0r
Anyone have a good D/??? build?
I don't really mind Bison, I just want to get past to Kahmu and get him. Any ideas?
I don't really mind Bison, I just want to get past to Kahmu and get him. Any ideas?
Sheriff
I've seen a couple of suggestions for Mesmers (one with Ineptitude, another with Signet of Midnight), but I was wondering how much of a risk would they be on a survivor?
I would like to do this quest with my survivor Mesmer, at least to get Kahmu and Xandra, but would of course prefer to face little to no risk.
Any ideas?
I would like to do this quest with my survivor Mesmer, at least to get Kahmu and Xandra, but would of course prefer to face little to no risk.
Any ideas?
Chthon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheriff
I've seen a couple of suggestions for Mesmers (one with Ineptitude, another with Signet of Midnight), but I was wondering how much of a risk would they be on a survivor?
I would like to do this quest with my survivor Mesmer, at least to get Kahmu and Xandra, but would of course prefer to face little to no risk.
Any ideas? I would not put a survivor into the tourny using anything other than Rt secondary spirit spam.
I would like to do this quest with my survivor Mesmer, at least to get Kahmu and Xandra, but would of course prefer to face little to no risk.
Any ideas? I would not put a survivor into the tourny using anything other than Rt secondary spirit spam.
lakatz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
I would not put a survivor into the tourny using anything other than Rt secondary spirit spam.
There are several */Rit spirit spammer builds posted in this thread. I used Dralspire's for my ranger, and it worked really well. I used a */Rit spirit spammer (slightly different than Dralspire's) against the Glacial Griffon as well.
EDIT: Except don't use the build code he's posted. That only works for a monk/rit. Just add the skills and up communing and channeling and you'll get your own code worth saving for future use.
EDIT: Except don't use the build code he's posted. That only works for a monk/rit. Just add the skills and up communing and channeling and you'll get your own code worth saving for future use.
h4mx0r
Any easy way other than spirit spamming? My Dervish doesn't have wanderlust or most of those other spirits, and is nowhere near the place where you cap wanderlust.
cliffchai76
Quote:
Originally Posted by h4mx0r
Any easy way other than spirit spamming? My Dervish doesn't have wanderlust or most of those other spirits, and is nowhere near the place where you cap wanderlust.
You don't need wanderlust. Equip pain inverter, ursan, and maybe 3 other normal spirits (I think I had Pain, Displacement and one other that deals damage) and you can still get through. I play Derv and have been trying to get a good Derv build with mostly Derv skills for the tourney. But as you can see from this thread, Derv norn tourney builds are hard to find.
Sheriff
I didn't try to beat Magni but I made my objective which was to get Xandra and Kahmu. I ran a Signet of Midnight build pretty similar to the one on the first page. Risk for my survivor was minimal 
Voltar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferret
I had a great rit spirit spammer build until they bloody changed the Arena so that the opponent rushes you instead of waiting to be aggro'd.
You can still setup spirits on the inside of the door before you get far enough in for the door to close. Even though the door closes on the back half of them, they can still shoot. Tha'ts my 'I don't want to work too hard." ranger build (with serpent's quickness).
Racthoh
This has been working quite well.
Kills everything pretty fast (before the assassin poofs in some cases) but I haven't been able to fight Joko with it yet.
Kills everything pretty fast (before the assassin poofs in some cases) but I haven't been able to fight Joko with it yet.
Voltar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
This has been working quite well.
That's awesome, dude. Bear Mode and little sin bro FtW. I ended up going apply poison, summon mursaat and bear mode for club of a thousand whatnot on my ranger.
lennymon
[skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Anguish[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Dissonance[/skill][skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Essence Strike[/skill][skill]Oath Shot[/skill]
Channeling: 12
Communing: 11
Expertise: 6+3+1
Just set up right in the doorway, step in and door closes ON spirits but they can still hit. Painful Bond to pull, oath shot sometime before shadowsong drops for bison and reaply it. Only one who EVER gives any challenge with this is Razah since he will stay put and spam his own. I use essence strike as I keep a bow on for oath shot (keeps me from running out of energy).
Channeling: 12
Communing: 11
Expertise: 6+3+1
Just set up right in the doorway, step in and door closes ON spirits but they can still hit. Painful Bond to pull, oath shot sometime before shadowsong drops for bison and reaply it. Only one who EVER gives any challenge with this is Razah since he will stay put and spam his own. I use essence strike as I keep a bow on for oath shot (keeps me from running out of energy).
Abnaxus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
This has been working quite well.
Kills everything pretty fast (before the assassin poofs in some cases) but I haven't been able to fight Joko with it yet. Which skill do you have in #1?
Thx
Kills everything pretty fast (before the assassin poofs in some cases) but I haven't been able to fight Joko with it yet. Which skill do you have in #1?
Thx
Shiro Katagari
Abnaxus:: It's "Gaze of Contempt" (Factions Necro skill, no linked attribute)
Racthoh
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiro Katagari
Abnaxus:: It's "Gaze of Contempt" (Factions Necro skill, no linked attribute)
And it's strictly just for Mhenlo; Ebon Vanguard Support -> Gaze of Contempt -> fight over.
FyrFytr998
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaheiyeh
The BEST build that is possible with ANY profession, even a Warrior!
The Any/Rt Spirit Spammer Build
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Earthbind[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
(Note: Vampirism is a Sunspear rank skill)
12 Communing
12 Channeling Magic
3 (Your Weapon Attribute)(ie. 3 Axe Mastery for an Axe warrior)
Bring along your usual armor, but bring a +15 energy staff at first to cast down all the spirits in order from LEFT to RIGHT. Cast the spirits between the door gap so it doesn't close on you yet. After casting all, switch to a zealous mod weapon and hack and slash away at your target, only stopping to cast Painful Bond on the enemy. I used this as well for my warrior. I used energy runes on my armor as well as a +15/-1 +30 focus for a rit. Gave my Warrior around 55 energy (A +5E Weapon would be nice too, lol).
Dropped the Spirits in the order above. Cast Painful Bond and went to town. Brutal Weapon is hardly ever used.
I must admit though. There are certain foes that will be game over for Warriors. So as some others have stated, luck of the draw does play a factor with a W/RT, because once Shadowsong dies it's open season.
The Any/Rt Spirit Spammer Build
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Earthbind[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
(Note: Vampirism is a Sunspear rank skill)
12 Communing
12 Channeling Magic
3 (Your Weapon Attribute)(ie. 3 Axe Mastery for an Axe warrior)
Bring along your usual armor, but bring a +15 energy staff at first to cast down all the spirits in order from LEFT to RIGHT. Cast the spirits between the door gap so it doesn't close on you yet. After casting all, switch to a zealous mod weapon and hack and slash away at your target, only stopping to cast Painful Bond on the enemy. I used this as well for my warrior. I used energy runes on my armor as well as a +15/-1 +30 focus for a rit. Gave my Warrior around 55 energy (A +5E Weapon would be nice too, lol).
Dropped the Spirits in the order above. Cast Painful Bond and went to town. Brutal Weapon is hardly ever used.
I must admit though. There are certain foes that will be game over for Warriors. So as some others have stated, luck of the draw does play a factor with a W/RT, because once Shadowsong dies it's open season.
h4mx0r
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaheiyeh
The BEST build that is possible with ANY profession, even a Warrior!
The Any/Rt Spirit Spammer Build
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Earthbind[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
(Note: Vampirism is a Sunspear rank skill)
12 Communing
12 Channeling Magic
3 (Your Weapon Attribute)(ie. 3 Axe Mastery for an Axe warrior)
Bring along your usual armor, but bring a +15 energy staff at first to cast down all the spirits in order from LEFT to RIGHT. Cast the spirits between the door gap so it doesn't close on you yet. After casting all, switch to a zealous mod weapon and hack and slash away at your target, only stopping to cast Painful Bond on the enemy. I used a variant on my temporary D/Rt.
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Dissonance[/skill][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
As you can see, the Avatar of Lyssa compensates for the energy requirement, particularly that of Dissonance.
The Any/Rt Spirit Spammer Build
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Earthbind[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
(Note: Vampirism is a Sunspear rank skill)
12 Communing
12 Channeling Magic
3 (Your Weapon Attribute)(ie. 3 Axe Mastery for an Axe warrior)
Bring along your usual armor, but bring a +15 energy staff at first to cast down all the spirits in order from LEFT to RIGHT. Cast the spirits between the door gap so it doesn't close on you yet. After casting all, switch to a zealous mod weapon and hack and slash away at your target, only stopping to cast Painful Bond on the enemy. I used a variant on my temporary D/Rt.
[skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Dissonance[/skill][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill]
As you can see, the Avatar of Lyssa compensates for the energy requirement, particularly that of Dissonance.
Explodie
[skill]Spirit Burn[/skill][skill]Mighty Was Vorizun[/skill][skill]Wanderlust[/skill][skill]Painful bond[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Vampirism[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Summon Spirits[/skill]
Communication 11
Chaneling 11
And no need for Energy use Mighty Was Vorizun
And then where you start make the spirits and step in the arena and use Summon Spirits
Use Spirit Burn and Painfull Bond on the persons and wait and let the spirits do their work ^^
You can use this build with every class there is ^^
I used to use with a warrior!
Thats my build ^^
(Uhm i hope this build wasnt post XD, because i was to lazy to read back :P )
Communication 11
Chaneling 11
And no need for Energy use Mighty Was Vorizun
And then where you start make the spirits and step in the arena and use Summon Spirits
Use Spirit Burn and Painfull Bond on the persons and wait and let the spirits do their work ^^
You can use this build with every class there is ^^
I used to use with a warrior!
Thats my build ^^
(Uhm i hope this build wasnt post XD, because i was to lazy to read back :P )
Spidey
R/Rt
Energy 31
8 Expertise (4 + 3 + 1)
8 Wilderness (7 + 1)
9 Marksmanship (8 + 1)
10 Communing
10 Channeling
[skill]bloodsong[/skill] [skill]pain[/skill] [skill]shadowsong[/skill] [skill]anguish[/skill] [skill]painful bond[/skill] [skill]poison arrow[/skill] [skill]hunter's shot[/skill] - and "You Move Like a Dwarf!"
Put spirits on top of the 2nd gate tie except when facing Meloni then spread them out. Use poison arrow and hunters shot for degen and "YMLaD!" for knockdown/interrupt and cripple. Palawa Joko with his 2 minions and rubberband lag when trying to kite were my only problems with this build.
I could usually get Magni quickly by casting the 4 spirits in order, using poison arrow, waiting for him to cast purge signet then hitting him with painful bond and posion again. Other times I had to finish him by running around, using degen and keeping him crippled until he degened to death. "YMLaD!" is awesome here as it is a shout and can be used when running, shooting or even when setting a spirit.
Energy 31
8 Expertise (4 + 3 + 1)
8 Wilderness (7 + 1)
9 Marksmanship (8 + 1)
10 Communing
10 Channeling
[skill]bloodsong[/skill] [skill]pain[/skill] [skill]shadowsong[/skill] [skill]anguish[/skill] [skill]painful bond[/skill] [skill]poison arrow[/skill] [skill]hunter's shot[/skill] - and "You Move Like a Dwarf!"
Put spirits on top of the 2nd gate tie except when facing Meloni then spread them out. Use poison arrow and hunters shot for degen and "YMLaD!" for knockdown/interrupt and cripple. Palawa Joko with his 2 minions and rubberband lag when trying to kite were my only problems with this build.
I could usually get Magni quickly by casting the 4 spirits in order, using poison arrow, waiting for him to cast purge signet then hitting him with painful bond and posion again. Other times I had to finish him by running around, using degen and keeping him crippled until he degened to death. "YMLaD!" is awesome here as it is a shout and can be used when running, shooting or even when setting a spirit.
Mirikashitakuari
Is there one that can beat them all for sure?
if so, please post?
if so, please post?
Humanoid
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakatz
I printed out all the ranger builds in this thread... and then this build. I went through all the ranger builds... one by one... and mine still got me further than any of them... but I still couldn't beat Magni with mine. So, after they all failed, mine included, I tried this one (above). I summoned all the spirits, watched my energy go back up to 13, hit C+spacebar, then Painful Bond, and before it even finished activating I saw the big green Victory in the window... almost every single time. Some opponents would last a couple seconds longer. Magni, of course, was a bit more of a challenge. But he was really funnier than he was a challenge. I just lured him to spirits if he came toward me, then ran away and summoned another one or two. It was like leading him around by the nose. After a short time of that, I saw the big green Decisive Victory in the window.
Thanks Dralspire. Your right! I just tried this build with my Ranger, Ele and RT. I had a minor problem with Razah and you need to run out and cast anguish and then pb him. Other than that, it was a cake walk. Excellent build!
Thanks Dralspire. Your right! I just tried this build with my Ranger, Ele and RT. I had a minor problem with Razah and you need to run out and cast anguish and then pb him. Other than that, it was a cake walk. Excellent build!
I SileniuS I
i have used this as monk :
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You can use 2 summons at the same time, sniper vanguard and mursaat(my personal choice, u can ofc go djinn or smth else),then i used a brutal weapon because i looked for a weapon spell that lasts the longest. Weapon spells are awesome cause when u become a bear u lose ench but no weapon spell . And rest are spirits : displacement, life, rejuvenation, recuperation. U really need spirits for Bison only cause others fall in 10-15 secs. 3-4 secs before combat just use mursaat, sniper and brutal, then bear up and thats it. Hope thijs help some1.
GL
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You can use 2 summons at the same time, sniper vanguard and mursaat(my personal choice, u can ofc go djinn or smth else),then i used a brutal weapon because i looked for a weapon spell that lasts the longest. Weapon spells are awesome cause when u become a bear u lose ench but no weapon spell
. And rest are spirits : displacement, life, rejuvenation, recuperation. U really need spirits for Bison only cause others fall in 10-15 secs. 3-4 secs before combat just use mursaat, sniper and brutal, then bear up and thats it. Hope thijs help some1.GL
Valeria
I just tried some Derwish build with ebon dust aura
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too bad i found out that aura of holy might is bugged and stops ebon dust aura from working.
Maybe i would have beaten Bison if it wasen't bugged and my attacks kept him blind.
It doesn't beat all enemys but a lot of them and it should be able to beat bison if i replace aura of holy might.
Another build with Avatar of Lyssa is able outdamage Alesia Devona and most of the others but Bison killed me with that one
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too bad i found out that aura of holy might is bugged and stops ebon dust aura from working.
Maybe i would have beaten Bison if it wasen't bugged and my attacks kept him blind.
It doesn't beat all enemys but a lot of them and it should be able to beat bison if i replace aura of holy might.
Another build with Avatar of Lyssa is able outdamage Alesia Devona and most of the others but Bison killed me with that one
CyrxKel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirikashitakuari
Is there one that can beat them all for sure?
if so, please post? I've beat everyone with this build (with exception of Joko, I've not fought him but have everyone else), of course you have to know what to do for certain ones but it works.
I just used a blood staff w/ eng 5^50, eng 5 and 30hp, it was one I put together.
Spoil Victor
Life Siphon (used it for kiting if I had to run around-against Cynn, to get eng back)
Vampiric Touch
Vampiric Gaze
Vampiric Bite
Awaken the Blood
Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Blood 16
Healing 9
Protection 9
Cast Awaken the Blood first, then SV. When they get low enough to where SV isn't triggering anymore run in and touch them to death. You may have to piddle with it to get it working right since you don't know who you will be facing before him. But once you get to him do Awaken the Blood as usual, followed by LIFE SIPHON. This will work as a cover hex. After he does Bear Form cast SV then Protective Spirit. If you get low cast Healing Breeze and reapply SV when he removes it and keep up Protective Spirit. This worked for me so hope it works for you all as well. Good luck and enjoy!
if so, please post? I've beat everyone with this build (with exception of Joko, I've not fought him but have everyone else), of course you have to know what to do for certain ones but it works.
I just used a blood staff w/ eng 5^50, eng 5 and 30hp, it was one I put together.
Spoil Victor
Life Siphon (used it for kiting if I had to run around-against Cynn, to get eng back)
Vampiric Touch
Vampiric Gaze
Vampiric Bite
Awaken the Blood
Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Blood 16
Healing 9
Protection 9
Cast Awaken the Blood first, then SV. When they get low enough to where SV isn't triggering anymore run in and touch them to death. You may have to piddle with it to get it working right since you don't know who you will be facing before him. But once you get to him do Awaken the Blood as usual, followed by LIFE SIPHON. This will work as a cover hex. After he does Bear Form cast SV then Protective Spirit. If you get low cast Healing Breeze and reapply SV when he removes it and keep up Protective Spirit. This worked for me so hope it works for you all as well. Good luck and enjoy!