Dishonorable Combatant System = Mega Fail * 10^10

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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#1
The Dishonorable Combatant System (Which will now be referred to as DCS) is a horrible addition to Guild Wars.

The DCS will place a dishonorable hex on you after you receive 10 reports from other players on your account once your PvP match is over. The problem with this system is that Arena Net doesn't check these reports. How do I know this? I was reported multiple times by the the most retarded things and was punished by the dishonorable hex for these things. If Arena Net checks these things then they would obviously notice that I was in fact not doing anything wrong.

Some of the weird things I was reported for:
-Someone claimed Price Of Failure was a retarded skill that serves no purpose. I responded and I quote "Price of Failure is good for shutting down melee characters." Then he/she reports me for verbal abuse.

-I had to answer the door so I typed quick in team chat AFK - UPS At Door, I come back to find I had been reported multiple times. I was gone for a minute tops, I just walked to door, opened it, signed form, close door, walk back to computer.

-My name A was reported for being offensive. I whispered the player asking why and was told that I was elitist and my name makes fun of other players for not being good at game.

I was punished for the above actions. Apparently I did something wrong…. o.O

My problems with the DCS.

1) Arena Net doesn’t check the reports. (I was reported for stupid things and punished)

2) There is a large gray area with the DCS. If someone hasn’t moved for a couple minutes and you report them for leeching and they come back, what happens to you? Do you get in trouble for abusing the report feature? Same thing with the inappropriate name feature. Something you believe is inappropriate might not be inappropriate to someone else.
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#2
Ok..full story, please.

Someone reporting you for this "Price of Failure is good for shutting down melee characters." isn't going to happen.
Brianna
Brianna
Insane & Inhumane
#3
Well, I've seen like 2 people be reported for leeching after they lost connection with the server, I even lost connection for maybe 1-2 minutes, no telling how many reports I got, so yeah, who knows how it will turn out.
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#4
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Ok..full story, please.

Someone reporting you for this "Price of Failure is good for shutting down melee characters." isn't going to happen.
You obviously don't know the people in alliance battles
sky sliverwolf
sky sliverwolf
Ascalonian Squire
#5
Ya i can see alot of ppl abusing the DCS, I was reported for calling someone a "booka" what a joke! This is just another way for punk *** kids to get off. They (anet) need to check these reports out, b4 everyone has marks against them!
Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
#6
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1) Arena Net doesn’t check the reports.
This is not the problem with the DCS, this is a problem with ANet and the players. Send in a support ticket, let them know your side, and if you are lucky, the people who reported you will get the dishonorable points.

IMO we need something like this in place, but like all things it's going to take a little time to work out right.
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#7
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Ok..full story, please.

Someone reporting you for this "Price of Failure is good for shutting down melee characters." isn't going to happen.
Oh, the hate I've gotten over this.

Not only during match, but even afterwards. Apparently, I was the laughing stock of PvP community for bringing this to RA.

But this was long time ago, 1+ years, so perhaps the skill got changed in between, or something. It has its uses, although probably not by itself, but in combination with something else.

All I can say, never underestimate what some people find reason for dispute. Even so - saying: "lol nub, POF is anti-melee" IS NOT reason for /report. You can choose to make a ticket, but not /report.
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#8
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Originally Posted by sky sliverwolf
Ya i can see alot of ppl abusing the DCS, I was reported for calling someone a "booka" what a joke! This is just another way for punk *** kids to get off. They (anet) need to check these reports out, b4 everyone has marks against them!
I agree but A net likes to cut corners and save cash where they can.. =*(
garethporlest18
garethporlest18
Forge Runner
#9
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Ok..full story, please.

Someone reporting you for this "Price of Failure is good for shutting down melee characters." isn't going to happen.
You never play with the community do you? There are soo many people who would QQ about getting beat and report someone for a skill that beat them. There are also sooo many people on your team who wouldn't like a skill and it's their "Lets be a prick day!" and would report you if they felt like it.

GW community is a bunch of QQ and fail so it doesn't surprise me in the least.
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kumiel
Ascalonian Squire
#10
I just had an experience with the system too. I joined an alliance battle and ran up to the gate with the rest of my team. However, there was a /stuck problem of some kind and the server thought i hadn't moved at all and was still on the spawn point. The battle hadn't even started yet and I was chatting with teammates. About 10 seconds before the battle started, the message popped up [my character's name here] has been reported for leeching. About 10 seconds later, a few more messages pop up reporting other people on my team for leeching. I didn't send a single report, but a couple report happy people on the team caused us to have 10/12 players reported for leeching.

I think however that there is something in place for this. I noticed that I wasn't getting faction at the start of the battle when enemies were killed. Somehow however, about halfway through the match, after at least half of our team had already been reported, I started gaining faction again.

Anyways, there needs to be a higher percentage of people required for reporting. Also, I think that it should display who reported what team member and then other team members (not the one that was reported) should be able to send a "false reporting" report which cancels out the original report if there is enough support.
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#11
wtb in-game GameMasters
Bankai
Bankai
Desert Nomad
#12
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Ok..full story, please.

Someone reporting you for this "Price of Failure is good for shutting down melee characters." isn't going to happen.
"Shutting down melee characters" can easily be mis-interpreted by dumb people as "Shutting up melee characters".
Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
#13
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
wtb in-game GameMasters
That'll cost all the GW players $15 a month.
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#14
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Originally Posted by kumiel
I just had an experience with the system too. I joined an alliance battle and ran up to the gate with the rest of my team. However, there was a /stuck problem of some kind and the server thought i hadn't moved at all and was still on the spawn point. The battle hadn't even started yet and I was chatting with teammates. About 10 seconds before the battle started, the message popped up [my character's name here] has been reported for leeching. About 10 seconds later, a few more messages pop up reporting other people on my team for leeching. I didn't send a single report, but a couple report happy people on the team caused us to have 10/12 players reported for leeching.
Well, that happens frequently.

Sometimes, it takes well after the match has began to be able to move. It's quite possible that you never noticed it before if you were with random people, and they hand't alerted you at that specifically.

After moving, you'll get rubberbanded back, sometimes not - but others may see you as standing at the starting point. The longest I've experienced this was 15+ seconds after the match has started.

The only solution or detection of this I could find out was to use mouse walking. If you're stuck on server, clicking elsewhere will not move you.

But yes, this is a quite common bug that had me worried with regard to the system as well.
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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#15
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Originally Posted by garethporlest18
You never play with the community do you? There are soo many people who would QQ about getting beat and report someone for a skill that beat them. There are also sooo many people on your team who wouldn't like a skill and it's their "Lets be a prick day!" and would report you if they felt like it.

GW community is a bunch of QQ and fail so it doesn't surprise me in the least.
AMEN! Speak it brother!


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Originally Posted by kumiel
Anyways, there needs to be a higher percentage of people required for reporting. Also, I think that it should display who reported what team member and then other team members (not the one that was reported) should be able to send a "false reporting" report which cancels out the original report if there is enough support.
This is Anet here... So if it makes sense it probably won't happen or the programmers will claim it is to difficult lol


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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
wtb in-game GameMasters
Anet can't afford that....
t_the_nihilst
t_the_nihilst
Academy Page
#16
Well while I agree with the concept, the result is too flawed to be using at this point. This system is too black and white. It’s not just “Being reported,” GW knows when you’ve left a match early, even if your whole team is dead, you must wait for GW to return you from the arena to the main area.
And yes, I do agree with the concept even though it has completely ruined RA for me.
Me = Self confessed RA leaver D:
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#17
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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst
Well while I agree with the concept, the result is too flawed to be using at this point. This system is too black and white. It’s not just “Being reported,” GW knows when you’ve left a match early, even if your whole team is dead, you must wait for GW to return you from the arena to the main area.
And yes, I do agree with the concept even though it has completely ruined RA for me.
Me = Self confessed RA leaver D:
You could always use /resign
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Chris Blackstar
Banned
#18
I wonder, if someone reports you, and you were doing nothing out of the ordinary that would warrent a report. Can't you just report that person as well for making false reports. Does it tell you who reported you?

If not, you could ask I guess, or just report everyone on your team. 50 reports a day is too many, should be more like 10 reports a day, this way it would cut down on abuse, players would have to only use them when absolutly nessassary.
Gaile Gray
Gaile Gray
ArenaNet
#19
Please give the system a few days and let us hear your positive and constructive feedback. Some of the claims of "I was punished" I know are not true. It's really easy to have a .04 second delay in connecting and figure "The system blocked me!"

Let's get some real feedback, not knee-jerk reactions. Sure, if you get a block on your account, let us know that via the Support system. But please don't post anecdotal comments without having worked with the system, because it's too easy to say "Yeah, and my grandmother was blocked for two weeks for botting, and she doesn't even have a computer!"

(Forgive me, I'm not making light of those who have had problems. But I'm betting my bottom dollar that there are far fewer than some people want you to believe.)
t_the_nihilst
t_the_nihilst
Academy Page
#20
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Originally Posted by Antheus
You could always use /resign

Yes, but in order to do that you're going to have to get the mesmer with healing breeze, the sin with no secondary and no guild, and the W/Mo using mending and "Charge" to resign with you as well, assuming they are aware of the /resign command.