When are we going to be able to Change the appearnce of our characters?

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

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A Cosmeticist as a purchasable guild hall improvement would be nice, as it would
1) allow people to change their characters, and
2) be an incentive for people to join guilds.

eudas

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Yeah, this is NEVER going to happen. Ever.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by Kakumei
And why are so many people opposed to character sex changes? It's not that bizarre, and if you're going to offer character re-customization at all, why on earth would you leave something like that out?
Well, for my part my only real opposition to the idea is that, if you make every character parameter fluid, it sort of renders those initial decisions meaningless. Hair styling is obviously completely reasonable. One can make magical arguments for everything else, of course, but my leaning is to allow people the opportunity to change little details of their character but not totally remake them. Height and gender seem like the most radical changes possible, so those would be the options I'm least enthused by.

But like I said, it's not something I care that much about one way or the other.

Akuma

Akuma

IRC W H O R E

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

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I like to grow hair too

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

You not, best bet is April fools day when they change the sex of your characters (if they even bother to do that considering they are so "busy with GW2.")

noocoo

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

What's the matter to let us change our hair style?

Why will it never happened?

Hair stylist ftw!

Jamison0071

Jamison0071

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Morporkian Mercenaries

N/Me

I'm pretty sure Gaile has not point blanked refused us a hair/face changer, I think the last time it was mentioned that it was the third most requested item and may come to pass in the future.

Source: http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=460491 (sorry for GWincgamers link)

So maybe we will get it around Christmas like we did last year with Reconnects and the Party LFG System.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

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PR never point-blank refuses anything, its bad for the company.

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

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Originally Posted by LethalHands
Don't these types of suggestion/request posts belong in a different forum anyway?
Then PM a mod and request them to move it.

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Originally Posted by Kakumei
And why are so many people opposed to character sex changes? It's not that bizarre, and if you're going to offer character re-customization at all, why on earth would you leave something like that out?
I don't think many people are opposed to it, perhaps a it's just not really that important to them, s'all.
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Originally Posted by Jamison0071
I think the last time this was mentioned it was the third most requested item, and may come to pass in the future.
Mentioned during Gaile's in-game meet&greet? I wonder if that is when player's requests make the most impact.

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Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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Originally Posted by TheDarkOneVK
Yeah and when are we getting the auction house? Or mounts? Or a higher level cap?
Guild Wars 2, welcome to the future

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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I dont get it ... what oh-so-danm-important about making players choices he made during minute 1 written in stone?

Over two and half year of game, it was enough time for players to:

* Get tired of character look and name. Seriously
* Have ones likes and dislikes changed.
* Mature enough to want more mature name or look for character.

Basically, people change, characters should change with them.

Seren!ty

Seren!ty

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

[iDum]

R/E

^ Agreed, that's exactly why I wan't my characters redone without losing the time I put into them... I doubt it will ever happen though

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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I think Anet is just too lazy to implement it. Course ya'll can say what you want but I'm sticking with that. I'd like to be able to change the look of some of my chars.

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

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well you can change hair or have tan in real life..
i've always wanted my tyrian ele to have NIGHTFALL hairstyle
i also want to chage the names of 2 of my charas
but it's not gonna happen cause they just don't want to work on GW1 anymore

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Hell yea, I REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLYYYY want an ingame barber shop... not for my charr as I like the looks of them (apart from one male necro who I made specifically as the ugliest model I could find ). But Id pay 100K just to send Koss to get his stupid affro shaved off and changed to anything else. lol

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

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Originally Posted by Echos arrows
I'm hoping for the NCSoft to add somethign that lets us change the physical appearnce of our characters. i know i am fed up with wanting to change my characters but i dont wanna remake them. im just wondering what other people think about this.
TexMod FTW.

Barbers? Meh. Not fussed personally, but if other folks want to get prissy with their hair then fine by me.
Plastic Surgeons? TexMod it. Seriously. If you hate your face so much then change the texture.

... Gender reassignment surgery?
Lawlz. A-Net already threw that one at us in April... After seeing Chae Soon dressed up in horribly lop-sided female 15k Kurzick and looking like an anorexic bull-dyke.... count me out.

Sadare

Sadare

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Blaze of the Immortals

E/Me

I would love to be able to change my characters hair from time to time. A small fee maybe (3 plat or something), but nothing that will make you have to go farming /grinding.

Face and gender should not be changed, only hair styles and colour.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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D: I would totally pay 100k for the sex change. My titleRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO main char is a MALE warrior. He's only had one set of armor his whole life because male armor is so crappy. If I could make him a her, my guild wouldn't hear me say, "T_T I wish I had made Zeek a girl."

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

I would be happy if we could just dye the hair a different color!

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

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Originally Posted by Kula
I don't think many people are opposed to it, perhaps a it's just not really that important to them, s'all.
Oh, really? I swear I remember reading something somewhere...

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Originally Posted by Government Flu
Because quite obviously, Good Sir Knight should be able to save the world in high heels. No, no, no. If a player needs to change the sex of his/her character, then quite obviously they lack the commitment or foresight to play an RPG. Either that, or they need to take a break, because the day I seriously consider my character's sex should change is the day I need to take a year long vacation from the game.
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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls
Yeah, have to agree.

Hair change, maybe face change = ok. Sex change = no. >.>
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Hair change is the only totally logical and realistic feature. Face change, eh pushing it. Sex change? lol.
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Originally Posted by Kahlindra
And yes... too many trashy television channels= definitely aware that female to male surgery is possible. Shock documentaries ftw. But no... would be too weird for an rpg.
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
I'd vote hair change definitely, face change maybe, gender change probably not.
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Originally Posted by LethalHands
That's pretty sick. I don't want that crap in my Guild Wars. If you feel like bending your gender, just play a character the opposite of what you are in life and role play that way. This is what everyone does right now anyway. I suspect the reason this is even an issue is because people are uncomfortable with their initial choice but don't want to lose their time invested.

That falls somewhere along the lines of player responsibility and LOL. People who pick a pathetic name are in the same boat, you can't change that either. Next time think things over if it matters so much to you.
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
... Gender reassignment surgery?
Lawlz. A-Net already threw that one at us in April... After seeing Chae Soon dressed up in horribly lop-sided female 15k Kurzick and looking like an anorexic bull-dyke.... count me out.
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Originally Posted by Sadare
Face and gender should not be changed, only hair styles and colour.
Hey, looks like a lot of people are opposed to it!

Sadare

Sadare

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Blaze of the Immortals

E/Me

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Originally Posted by iriyabran
well you can change hair or have tan in real life..
i've always wanted my tyrian ele to have NIGHTFALL hairstyle
Thats my thinking, as folks who like myself created their main chars way back when propercies intially came out, there was only a few hair styles/colours you could pick for your class back then. Since release we have had several new addons/campaigns come out, which have offered a lot more choice in hair styles and colourings. These should be made avalible to all folks so as can change thier hair to a diffrent style which was not avalible when the characters where created. Also should work the other way, folks who maybe aquired an earlier campaign after buying say NF and may want to change from Nightfall to a Prophercies/Factions hair style.

Another nice thing would be to be able to select a hair style from any of the classes. As my Ele would love longer hair, and the Deverish has a fantastic hair piece that would suit my Ele

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Hey, looks like a lot of people are opposed to it!
People also said it's possible in real life, and some are for it.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
People also said it's possible in real life, and some are for it.
And?
I expect most of those are PvPers who can just re-roll their characters anyway... and want to get the same feeling from their PvE characters. They want to ditch the char and have a different one without actually losing any of the achievements.
It is a cheap attitude that no RPG needs. Once you've determined your character's look a certain way... and optimised it as best the game is able.... you've made something to identify them by. It is what makes the difference between them being a character or just "a toon"... and completely remaking their appearance abuses that entire purpose.
That is the reason even why I refuse to TexMod my characters' faces.... even if I could make them look better. It is how I identify them.... much as with any person in the real world.

A. Noid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/A

R/E

It's funny,
Even IF GW put this feature in, with the direction they're moving, I figure we'd have to grind for 'tailor points' in order to get anything done.

-ANoid

A. Noid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/A

R/E

@SotiCoto

But people change over time. New hair styles, hair goes gray, new clothes....

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Characters have never been a huge deal to me. If I leave one for a few months the bond is pretty much gone, anyway. It's just an avatar - I'm the real character in my game.

History and titles? Bah! It's a Xunlai box full of stuff and gold, that makes me feel warm inside.

Perhaps in GW2 there could be a visible and unchangable player ID - you'd always know who you're talking to (even more than the current system) and there'd be no petty excuses for not allowing players to alter their characters at will.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by A. Noid
@SotiCoto

But people change over time. New hair styles, hair goes gray, new clothes....
His post seemed to be aimed directly towards changing the face, sex, etc. of the character. Not sure how he felt about hairstylists (which is something I approve of).

A. Noid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/A

R/E

I could see the sex change being objected to, but I think as a whole, any character changes, body style, hair, face, etc are pretty harmless. I liken it to 'growing up/old'.

-ANoid

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

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I really wanna see a PR Rep in here saying either Yay, or Nay to this. At least either quash our hope, or give us something to look forward to.

I'm in favor of the whole works here. Although I probably won't use the sex change npc. But i'll def use the hair, and tanning npc.

Comon Gaile! Yay or nay, please??

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
It is a cheap attitude that no RPG needs. Once you've determined your character's look a certain way... and optimised it as best the game is able.... you've made something to identify them by. It is what makes the difference between them being a character or just "a toon"... and completely remaking their appearance abuses that entire purpose.
Then dont use that feature, DOH. And stop caring how other people you'd propably never meet play game. because in the end all it brings positives: you'd never notice them in pug or in outpost, and it in fact can make people play chars they unfavored because of look/name issue more. Which either fill party with one more guy with 8 above head or one more guy you can pug with.

People making "characters" for serious RP wont use it, otherwise they would kinda fail at that RPing of theirs.

People not attached to chars in sich ... disturbing ... way would propably just take it as convenience, because in the end, all it really would do is to save a lot of time.

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Does it not bother you that you can change secodnary at whim? I.E. someone roleplaying death knight should be pretty angry about fact that pretty much everyone chan change to and from /N secodnary in seconds. Just imagine how much it takes away.

Or complete build? I am sure people rolepalying elementalists as x-maners of various elements should be pissed of about fact that someone can just change element at whim. I've heard about guy who made 4 eles, each for different element despite that. weird, eh. One would think that he would be totally crushed by fact that others can just change builds and not care about his RP mumbojumbo.

Point is, RPing and attachment to char is in your head, not in game features that you can, but dont have to use. Just like changing stuff like secondary is unlikely to change whatever bond you have with them, this aint either.

From my pen and paper roots, it was not unheard that you took GM aside and discussed some change of character background. Others either pretended it was always that way or some in-character thing happened to reveal it. Like the fact that you character used spell to change collor of his eyes ;p and now decided others in party can see hi reall eye color... or, this is pushing it but you get idea.

Imagine that some 15yr old AD&D people simply say "id like my char to be this hot chick" and others say "sure". How depressed must people who take it too seriously must be.

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Btw: lil example of good roleplay:

Gabriella is istani girl, her village was often attacked by corsairs, and she soon learned to hide her feminine features to escape rape. When her 18th birthdays came, she was quite adept at playing male, and when she decided to join sunspears, she had simple choice: either be her girl-self and be looked down to, because equal is not always equal, ans there was always this fear of being harassed or be Gabriell, nondescript guy that attacts no problems and which others men leave alone, choice was simple. Some simple mesemr magic ale rought discuise to pretty good illusion. Several months after being recruited, some serious stuff happened and she had never break, playing guy role pretty much nonstop, she is sick of it and now that she entered stanger portal and ended up north, there is noone around who would be shocked about this relevation and she would be free to be herself again in this new land.

Yawn.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

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ok, not sex change surgery, but what about other kinds :P

Seriously tho, hairstylists would be nice, anything above that would be a bonus

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Originally Posted by dsnesnintendo
never most likely
Sadly, I agree.

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

How about height changer? I made my Ele a few years back and I kind of wish I could make her shorter(she has default height). The other things I don't really care about. I guess hair would be okay. Sex change is just way too weird.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Great Idea for GW 2 but Doubt they will for GW. It would have to be linked to the logon screen select character and have these options Delete, Rename, and Redesign (oh I would be happy with those options)

Government Flu

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

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Female characters shouldn't exist?
How on Earth did you glean a supposedly sexist comment from my original post? My primary character is a female! My jolly little paragraph was all about reinforcing the message that sex changes shouldn't be a part of the lore in Guild Wars or any other RPG with similar themes.

And as for your quip about characters having gender identity issues...you can't save the world if you can't decide whether you should wear your chainmail skirt or chainmail leggings. If you want some kind of bizarre journey into the surreal, I suggest you wait for a single player game of some sort, because it won't happen in online RPGs.

In a world overtly sensitive to everything imaginable, it's just not feasible that ArenaNet could do this whole sex change shebang without offending many, many people. And even if they could, how the hell are you going to explain a sex change operation in a world chock full of technology that peaks at catapults and iron weaponry?

Is is a magical transformation? A Harry Potteresque potion?

I think seeing this in any game without some serious investment in a character's personal life and emotional input would be either laugh or tear worthy. And oh yes, there's always the individual's imagination that can fill in the blanks while you're out mechanically slaying the same creatures in a forest but to be blunt:

That imagination is better spent in the real world.

And that is my final word, and final post, on the subject of this thread.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

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Originally Posted by Government Flu
My jolly little paragraph was all about reinforcing the message that sex changes shouldn't be a part of the lore in Guild Wars or any other RPG with similar themes.
And why not? What makes changing sex such a bizarre proposition?

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And as for your quip about characters having gender identity issues...you can't save the world if you can't decide whether you should wear your chainmail skirt or chainmail leggings.
That's really rather insulting to real people who do suffer from such a disorder--you can live perfectly normal lives even if you know you were born into the wrong body.

Creating--and playing--a character with such a disorder would be a daunting task, to be sure, and it is rather unnecessary a detail for a game such as this, but I don't see why the option to change a character's sex is such a horrible and worthless idea.

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Is is a magical transformation? A Harry Potteresque potion?
Because magic certainly hasn't been established in the game as a plot vehicle already, no, of course not.

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That imagination is better spent in the real world.
Roleplaying can't truly be done in the real world, no matter what any LARPer might tell you, so online is the only place I really get to stretch that particular facet of my imagination.

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And that is my final word, and final post, on the subject of this thread.
Pity, as you seem to generally know what you're talking about.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

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you wont ever except for armor so go figure

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

I'd love to be able to give some of my characters hairstyles from other continents: give my Canthan monk those classic buns from Prophecies, my Canthan ele that big ponytail from Nightfall (and in that cool sea green shade only available to Elonian eles), etc...

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Ever heard of Texmod guys?

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

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Originally Posted by Witchblade
Ever heard of Texmod guys?
Texmod cannot change the mesh. Best you can achieve with it is a different color of hair/skin.