Hey Anet Let's have a No Heroes No Henchies Weekend??!

Halmyr

Halmyr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada! eh!

~none~

W/Me

I'd definatly would be interested in seing the results of such a weekend.

Would't care if this append or not. Worst comes to worst, I'l solo farm the whole weekend away

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Yeah that sounds great /signed. Except of course still allow them in the H V H arenas, but, take them out of PVE to promote GROUPING and PUGGGING and all around FAMILY FUN TOGETHERNESS.

From all the bitching and moaning about not being albe to use heroes and henchies everywhere this would be a nice change once inawhile to get people back together again. I think Heroes were bad for the game myself even though I do enjoy their power they just made finding groups and pugs that much harder because more people began to rely on heroes than on each other. So, let's have a No Heroes and No Henchies weekend.

/sign do that and add *100 times a better chance of getting good drops and quaduple greens mess up the currency more oh please anet

*sarcasm

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hey whenever I lead an alliance or two man group and choose every skillbar everything gets completed first time around with no problems. When I try to lead pugs either I dont get enough players, or everyone just has crap skills and get replaced by heroes and hench.

GW is sooooo easy when I get to play it my way. The only thing that makes it hard is pugs and henchmen with 5 skills and no elite, or better yet a useless elite.

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by angryKid
but they also should encourage team play at some points.
This is actually one of the things I don't like about GWEN's mission structure. I know it has a certain enhanced realism to it, but without dedicated mission outposts it does mean it isn't so clear where to gather to do a particular mission.

Pogrim The Crusader

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

[HDK]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
... only if they kick all the retards from the game, too.

Ooops. There goes 99% of the GW population.
That made me laugh, except you forgot to factor in another .9%

Rivix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

D/Mo



had to do it...

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lol Rivix thas pretty good

Blessed Winds

Blessed Winds

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Panda Land. It's wonderful.

PLU (Panda Lovers UNITED)

Me/Mo

It would be funny if they happened to one day updated the game and BAM, all the henchmen are invisible!

It could be just like that build last week where nobody could log on.

ANet: "Whoops."

Revan Bastille

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ebon Hawk

Blood of the Martyr [Hope]

E/Me

Well, you couldn't do about half the missions in NF without at least one hero...

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

An idea in which to force people to play with incompetent idiots? Wow, i couldn't think of a suggestion worse than this.

Captain Herbalife

Captain Herbalife

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Central United States

The Lords of Doom [LOD]

W/Mo

I mean this in the best possible way but, this has to be the most idiotic suggestion I have ever seen anyone make!!!!!

/sooooo not signed

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

Go to DoA or areas that have a dungeon near them (IE: Doomlore Shrine's Cathedral of Flame). I see a lot of people there wanting to group together. And without heros, that makes me rely on PvE monks, which most the time seem a lot worse then Dunkoro or Tahlkora or Ogden Stonehealer.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan Bastille
Well, you couldn't do about half the missions in NF without at least one hero...
You bring up a good point so it should be no HENCHIES for a weekend instead of Heroes and Henchies.

In my country just about everyone gets at least a one WEEK vacation once a year and sick leave. This just would make the game more realistic in that henchies need a vactaion also and it's just for one WEEKEND.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Yeah that sounds great /signed. Except of course still allow them in the H V H arenas, but, take them out of PVE to promote GROUPING and PUGGGING and all around FAMILY FUN TOGETHERNESS...
So you want too alienate atleast 50% of the gaming community who like to play solo and use AI for an entire weekend?

That really is the worst PR idea ever!!!

They wouldnt come back, and you would loose half the games population over night. I couldnt stand being forced to PUG for 48 hours. What about those who want to explore, farm, bounty hunt or just do stuff that doesnt require a PUG?

This would do more harm in just 2 days, then good!

Try to understand that people arent PUGing as a result of their being AI in the game. People dont PUG because a huge % of the community are rude, immature and arrogant. Its not the AI who kill PUGs, its the mentality of the players you PUG with.

I've found my heroes to be more capable then most humans.

If you want to promote PUGs, then try and do a "grow up and treat people with respect" campaign and make people behave in ways that you want to play with then. I can see it now... an entire 2 days of "your not joining my PUG because you wouldnt use the build I told you to".

The fun!!!

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

yeah...it'd really annoy me as i'm a solo player with H/H really.

but i would like to see more groups of humans, maybe a small inscrease of drops for more humans in party...small increase

T. Drake

T. Drake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/Me

We could also name this weekend the "Play-Only-Core-Professions-Except-Mesmer"-Event.

The new professions have still a hard time to find a group.

Exhonour

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

douches

W/E

i agree, people would rather go with henchies/heroes instead of with people, this sucks

bryann380

bryann380

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/

On the Prophecies game box (inside the warrior pic flap), it clearly says "Join with friends or play solo with a band of skillful henchmen".

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

And people say Communism is dead...

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivix


had to do it...

if you don't want heroes, don't buy Nightfall

Mineria

Mineria

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Denmark

Dragonslayers Of The [Mist]

W/Mo

Hmm why not...

/signed

Just because of all the anti posters saying that all players who pug are rude and evil.

Edit:
Just saw this on another site.
Quote:
Developers should be saying, "how can I make grouping so interesting or compelling that players will want to group EVEN THOUGH they can use heroes." They should be forever expanding game mechanics, not limiting them.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

/not signed

I hate going with PUG's and only do so if I have to. At least the heroes and henchies follow you half the time.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

Thread rez = you lose.

Really I don't know why this was closed months ago. Go home.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Yeah that sounds great /signed. Except of course still allow them in the H V H arenas, but, take them out of PVE to promote GROUPING and PUGGGING and all around FAMILY FUN TOGETHERNESS.

From all the bitching and moaning about not being albe to use heroes and henchies everywhere this would be a nice change once inawhile to get people back together again. I think Heroes were bad for the game myself even though I do enjoy their power they just made finding groups and pugs that much harder because more people began to rely on heroes than on each other. So, let's have a No Heroes and No Henchies weekend.
Translation: let's have a "how deserted will GW look in 2 years?" weekend.

UnKn0wN415

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

R/

/not signed

the real problem is trying to group going, too many idiots/immature/know it all/etc players out there...

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

"LFG for mission"
"LFG for mission"
"LFG for mission"

ten minutes later ..... still "LFG for mission"




/not signed

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

So you want a weekend where a lot of people won't play? Like a lot of people have already said before, if heroes were taken out of the game people wouldn't start pugging, they would just quit.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

/signed

stop being scrubs and play with your friends. can't find a group? too bad, suck less.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
/signed

stop being scrubs and play with your friends. can't find a group? too bad, suck less.
It would be nice to be able to find seven friends, who all want to do the same thing, online at once. The "suck less" comment was totally unecessary, and I certainly wouldn't want to team up with anyone that has that attitude. At least heroes and henchies are more civil.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quadruple the Drop rate.

Then it becomes the official Solo Farming day.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
/signed

stop being scrubs and play with your friends. can't find a group? too bad, suck less.
Wait, what? You're bad at the game if your group sucks and won't listen to you? Wow. You must suck GREATLY then, for no one on this FORUM will listen to you.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

E/

Is it me, or do all bad threads start with "Anet," blabla

/notsigned

Torino Cowell

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

the middle of nowhere

The X Viles [ TXV]

R/

/sign

now before you start flaming me and start going "omg noob " i'm gonna explain why

1. peoples reactions , how i'd like to see how stressed some people would get by this

2.get others to play with other people in game . most nowadays just get heroes and hench and run off to do their dungeons /quests etc. now before you all shout " that's because players suck" and"everyone else is a noob" i'm just gonna say GW is an ONLINE game , you should try play with others , it's a great way of meeting new people and who knows , you may actually have alot of fun ,

that's just my opinion , and my guess is i'm about to get flamed for it :P

Nuclfus

Nuclfus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Screw guilds.

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torino Cowell
1. peoples reactions , how i'd like to see how stressed some people would get by this
Because implementing a weekend of irritation just to see how pissed off players will get is obviously in Anet's best interests. Except while you're busy laughing at how funny you think you are, they're off being mature and making a game that they think players will be glad to have paid good money for.

Quote:
2.get others to play with other people in game . most nowadays just get heroes and hench and run off to do their dungeons /quests etc. now before you all shout " that's because players suck" and"everyone else is a noob" i'm just gonna say GW is an ONLINE game , you should try play with others , it's a great way of meeting new people and who knows , you may actually have alot of fun
Any player who thinks other people should be forced to play with him so that he can further his own selfish gain is a noob. There are plenty of people already willing to go with a PUG, I know this because I find them all the time when I'm bored playing H/H. You don't need a weekend like this to get willing human help given you actually bother looking for it, and if you actually cared about the social aspect of the game you would know that. But for all your altruistic talk, people like you don't support the average player so much as laugh about how much fun you get out of frustrating them as your post proves.


/notsigned

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
/signed

stop being scrubs and play with your friends. can't find a group? too bad, suck less.
I never have 7 friends on at the same time, and pugs are weak. And as far as sucking less, it doesnt matter how good you are, if the rest of the party sucks, you will still die, and the party will still fail. Some of us have played for close to or over 2 yrs. We have played with pugs, with henches and with H/H. You know why h/h is prefered? Because if you fail its your fault not the retard warrior in beginers armor "Cause I am saving for 15k" or the monk with shit for healing. I dont mind losing when i screwed up. But when some jack ass puke stained water headed syphlitic retard does it for me, I tend to get pissy and bitch alot.

So, stop being a scrub and stfu.

~the rat~

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ah the joys of thread necromancy, and of the worst idea in the history of the game to boot. On some distant level, though, I wish they WOULD do this, just to show all the "OMG HEROZ RUINED TEH GAME" idiots how empty the game would get without them.

Unfortunately for Anet, I think a signficant percentage of those they chased off for the weekend wouldn't ever come back. I know *I* wouldn't.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
/signed

stop being scrubs and play with your friends. can't find a group? too bad, suck less.
Says the guy that's so hard up for anyone to play with his scrubby ass that he's trying to get AI removed from the game. It's not exactly a good comment on any of the people that supported this idea. If you need AI to be removed from the game to get people to play with you, maybe the problem isn't the AI, it's you.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

/signed

I think it's a great idea. Who cares if they'd be empty, I could go to Lion's Arch district 1 in the english servers all by myself and go..."YEAH! I CLAIM THIS TOWN IN THE NAME OF ME!"

Honestly, I hate heroes and henchmen. I love playing with people more. When heroes were included into the game, I hated t. I still love Guild Wars but I mostly just play PvP. PvE bores the hell out of me because only a few guildies do anything with me. I went on an infusion run for a friend about 10 minutes ago, picked up some random person for free. Made the run way more fun, someone else to talk to.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

If they did this i'd either not play or solo farm the whole time till i could actually play the game i paid for again

Yes NF having heroes is a selling point of the game so this would be taking away why many people bought the game

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
/signed

I think it's a great idea. Who cares if they'd be empty, I could go to Lion's Arch district 1 in the english servers all by myself and go..."YEAH! I CLAIM THIS TOWN IN THE NAME OF ME!"

Honestly, I hate heroes and henchmen. I love playing with people more. When heroes were included into the game, I hated t. I still love Guild Wars but I mostly just play PvP. PvE bores the hell out of me because only a few guildies do anything with me. I went on an infusion run for a friend about 10 minutes ago, picked up some random person for free. Made the run way more fun, someone else to talk to.
How is pugging more fun if pretty much everone is running the retarted obsidian tank?

i mean seriusly how is that fun?

heal the dude tanking
nuke the dudes attacking the dude tanking
pick up the drops the dudes dropped
flee when the dude dont tank for any reason