Who here uses PvX WiKi builds?

Legends

Legends

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

[Merc]

P/Rt

I use it a lot, usually stealing ideas from other peoples builds.

I'm not a very bright person when It comes to creating builds, so PvX Wiki can substitute for me .

edit: king of page 17.

Rhaegor Stormborn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Chicago, Illinois

Mo/E

I do, but I am new so I must rely on the experience of others for now and will determine my own builds later, but I am sure whatever I determine is the best will have already been done by someone who has played 3 years.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legends
I'm not a very bright person when It comes to creating builds, so PvX Wiki can substitute for me .
The PvXwiki people aren't very bright when it comes to creating builds either.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

I use them for ideas mainly to get ideas for how i want to shape a build up, especially if its a class im not really up to scratch on (/eyeballs Monks and Ele's)

Even for classes I know reasonably well I will still open 15-20 build tabs and just read over them incase i see something ive missed . I'm not infallible and its turned up the odd lightbulb moment

Sir Owns Alot EP

Sir Owns Alot EP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

[Town]

P/W

For someone like me who couldn't care less about pondering the tactical interrelationships between skills and the effectiveness of the combinations, PVX is a godsent. Most of my heroes use PVX builds, but my Paragon (they only character I play on) has my own build that would probably be flamed to death if I ever posted it.

Whatever works.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

I probably use something similar to pvx wiki but i personally do not copy/paste template and start using them... i look on there for ideas and tweak to my liking.

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

I don't really visit PvXwiki, but I do see it get brought up alot in Aspenwood/AB.....home of the creative snowflakes.

I have nothing against it, it's a fine starting place for some. People seem to whine the most when they keep getting killed by a good build that happens to be on wiki. I was running a standard Dev hammer bar in FA and some random guy decides that im an "uncreative wiki user". I asked him if he could kindly send me a non-wiki'd hammer build that doesn't suck. Of course he never did but we still had a little chat about wiki and builds in general - just about every good build out there that exists is gonna be on wiki. Even if it's not the exact thing, there's still gonna be some type of variant of it. After a while his tone changed to "you're good but uncreative".....and this was comin from someone using an SF build with some other random skills so it would look "creative" u_u

People that try too hard to be unique end up embarassing themselves. There's nothin wrong with wiki.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
I use it for farming builds mostly but when I see a concept for a good build I usually use it as a base and get rid of the skills I think are crap.

Also for heroes, I'd rather use something on them that someone else has already tested.
Same. But farming section is better at guru...

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Same. But farming section is better at guru...
it can be hit or miss on guru some times.

Yoom Omer

Yoom Omer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Israel

One Life to Live Again [Life]

E/

For my farming build, yes. not for the rest of the builds tho.

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

I use it for Farming ONLY.

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

No.

Because I'm not retarded at coming up with some ideas of my own.

And the most common farms are well known enough that you shouldnt need PVX to help, just ask a friend if your really stuck.

YillyBear

YillyBear

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

A place with stuff

None atm

R/

Yup, I try them, if they don't work I don't use them if they do I do. I mainly use it because I don't have time (due to work schedule) to sit and think of new builds.
*shrug* Guess I'm one of the retards, kinda proud of that in a weird way

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

I look at them, laugh, and move on. Fun for a few laughs every week or so. Most are idiotic, 80% are just plain stupid, 80% of the remaining 20% are mundane and have better variations, and the other 4% are.... well... ok I guess, but a veteran player can still make better builds. There are maybe, and I do mean MAYBE, 3-4 very good builds on PvX, and those are the builds that are the core of GW (Shock Axe, Dom mesmer, HA RC monk, etc) I would say 10-12 of the builds are CORE builds that are the best option to use except in niche situations, but I don't count those as PvX builds. Those are veteran builds that just happen to be posted. 99% of the builds people have come up with that are not core builds on PvX suck so hard, you would think they were Dysons....

The forth fly

The forth fly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

england

Mo/

use it to get farming builds but thats it,just been playing AB looks like people use it alot.do all sins use the same build? seems that way

Monk In The Box

Monk In The Box

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

Deutschland und in mein zimmer

[한국어]

Mo/Me

I use it as a tool to get farming builds and vanquishing builds.

Monkey Slayer

Monkey Slayer

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

I use it. But only to get good builds for my heroes, and when I need to pick up an easy farm build that you could pretty much get anywhere. 90% of the time the builds are crap and are broken in one way or another.

EDIT: And also, I'm still pretty new to the game, and I'm not TOO sure of how skills work, and which skills synergize.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

I do both. Usually the ones i create are similar to ones in pvx. I made a pve earthshaker warrior ages ago and used it a lot, and only after a few months a earthshaker build came out (i use belly smash though )

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

PvXWiki is utter trash these days. At one point their build articles might have made some sense. Now it sees every build has bizarre skill selections and usage notes that have no bearing on the skill bars. And it is infested to the brim with the most puerile trolls.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I just lol at some of the things.

Radiant Insignias? Lolwut?
Some of the builds are extremely atrocious.

Apart from farming, which Guru is already good for, it sees no use other than the lolz from me.

Idiots are funny.

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

I do sometimes when looking for new builds to try, otherwise id get bored and ragequit gw.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

In Soviet Korea, PvXwiki use you!

Coraline Jones

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Modified Soul Society

Mo/R

I use the builds somewhat.

I don't think that it's totally fair to say that the PvX wiki is totally worthless. While it's not the God Build Homepage, some sections are definitely more useful than others. For instance, when I was playing Nightfall, you have to use certain heroes in some missions or quests. I didn't like playing a Dervish so I didn't know any builds or which skills the AI would use right for Melonni. So I looked at the Wiki for hero builds and they do reasonably well when you have nothing else.

sixofone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

P/

It's great for exactly what it is: a resource.

Especially when I was new. Just after I bought NF (my first GW game), I was pretty lost in terms of: what skills should I buy? What skills are good for this profession? And secondary?? Holy moly, what do I even want to try to combine with a Paragon, or Necro?? Checking out the various builds began to illustrate skill synergies and uses.

As a cookie cutter template factory, no. As a learning tool, and a springboard for builds, yes - definitely!

Liam016

Liam016

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England,UK

R/Me

I use PvX wiki sometimes, and when i do get a build of there i tend to change a few of the skills for my own because most of the time the build takes a while to get used to. I also got the triple necro vanq builds off there.

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

have a glance, get some new ideas, and create one

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Never have. I don't believe I've ever even been to the website before (is there a website? I assume it's not a part of guildwiki? See - I fail).

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

I don't believe the "never have" folks - but I try the pvx build and if it's decent in play, I use it, but normally tweak it a little for my play style. The people that say they have never used a pvx build are full of it. All of the proven builds are listed there - are you people saying you don't use good builds?

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

I've never used them. I may have looked to see what is considered "great" and looked at it in my own personal opinion, but never copy and paste. The best builds are the ones you can make yourself and still own everything in sight.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Yeah, but those builds you create are usually same or almost identical to pvx ones.

around

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

I believe there is also the option of pressing b in game to get good builds.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Generally, I look and see if theres one thats "innovative." If there is, I usually change it to make it better for what I'm trying to accomplish.

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

I primarily use the farming builds there, and I look for ideas for PvE non-farming builds and branch off from them

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Same. But farming section is better at guru...
I'm quite aware the guru frming section can be better at times, if you look at my posts you'll see farming section is where I spend most of my time But to be honest theres quite a few phail builds in the guru farming sections, it is quite hit and miss.

lorazcyk

lorazcyk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

guildwiki.org/User:Lorazcyk

Mo/

I used to, and Im glad I did, because believe it or not that's how I learned how to make my own builds...

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

I believe I'm the guy who gets my builds put onto PvX... So... technically PvX uses my builds. The only PvX build I've ever used was the HFFF stuff. It really helped!

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

I use them as starting points (for PvE) then mercilessly edit my own version of it. Or I just outright copy them for when I RA (I'm mainly a PvE person but I enjoy opening a can of whoop-ass in RA occasionally).

Edit:
Quote:
Originally Posted by credit
In Soviet Korea, PvXwiki use you!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ekelon
I believe I'm the guy who gets my builds put onto PvX... So... technically PvX uses my builds. The only PvX build I've ever used was the HFFF stuff. It really helped!
Looks like Ekelon is...Soviet Korean, whatever the hell that means.

Willow O Whisper

Willow O Whisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

Nop haven't got a single pvx build i mostely keep to my own builds... Admitted iv'e snatched my hero setup.. SAB YOU ROCK!!

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

d. Never

Well, I do use "wiki builds", but I don't use wiki to look them up - I simply don't need to. I know all common bars for HA/GvG/AB and I have enough of a brain to make adjustments to those bars based on what I'm expecting to face and/or my own playstyle.

Some scrub in AB calling someone else (or myself) a "wiki noob" makes me /facepalm every time. People seem to not understand that every good bar in the game is already known and available somewhere online, and probably on wiki. If someone else's build is on wiki and yours isn't, you are the noob. Because you're running a bad build and don't realize it.

[/rant]

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper
Nop haven't got a single pvx build i mostely keep to my own builds... Admitted iv'e snatched my hero setup.. SAB YOU ROCK!!
yeah your troll unguent warrior must pwn