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30 Nov 2007 at 22:23 - 521

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

The amount of sheer ignorant, immature and completely clueless people on this forum amazes me. The age demographic surely can't be any higher than around 16 on average, for 70% of people on this forum.

and why do u think that? and why do you start to flame a thread which is having a very good discussion?

Lady Raenef

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:24 - 522

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Oh wait, did i just call your bluff because you'd expect these "whiners" to just want new skins? Too bad because i, like others, am actually serious.

And I wouldn't mind. Makes it fair, since those who qualified for the pack to begin with deserve something unique that future customers shouldn't get.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:25 - 523

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

You're trying way too hard to make the people who don't see anything wrong with this seem like spoiled brats, when fact of the matter is the ones being childish here are the ones who are complaining because they didn't get it.

For whatever reason it may be they believe themselves entitled to something that they didn't earn. But just because you wanted to but couldn't, or came in too late to participate doesn't entitle you to it any more than those who are having second thoughts about not purchasing stuff to get it.

We don't always get what we want. Accepting this fact and moving on with your life is more mature than throwing a fit everytime you miss out on something that you want.

You miss the point that Anet should take time to make sure everything they do is suitable to all its client base, a hard task I know and not everyone can be accessed but the majority of them should be able to use additional content.
Your talking about this as if its like life, its not its a completley different situation, if you fail a exam you can say well I paid for the exam and so I should get a bonus so i pass it. In this case I've paid and played this game alot yet because I dont own a credit card Im not able to use additional content? Please tell me you still think thats ok, if you do NEVER start your own business, just go back to working in the supermarket.

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:25 - 524

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

And I wouldn't mind. Makes it fair, since those who qualified for the pack to begin with deserve something unique that future customers shouldn't get.

Spot on. It's just a shame the majority are too wrapped up in their new tengu weapons to actually realise that this would be fair.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:26 - 525

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

It is, but there are those that are not QQ'ing for that reason. I didn't not buy the BMP because i thought it might be crap. But apparently it's completely fair to deny those people the right to enjoy something new as a loyal GW player.

i agree.

put it up for free as a no cost update WITHOUT THE WEAPONS

those who claim it is for the missions and not just a selfish weapons grab will be happy

every body wins as nobody is excluded for inability to get a CC

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Join Date: Jan 2007

30 Nov 2007 at 22:27 - 526

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Too bad because i, like others, am actually serious.

apparently you, like others, are not serious enough, because you didn't meet said criteria(s)

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:27 - 527

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

You miss the point that Anet should take time to make sure everything they do is suitable to all its client base, a hard task I know and not everyone can be accessed but the majority of them should be able to use additional content.
Your talking about this as if its like life, its not its a completley different situation, if you fail a exam you can say well I paid for the exam and so I should get a bonus so i pass it. In this case I've paid and played this game alot yet because I dont own a credit card Im not able to use additional content? Please tell me you still think thats ok, if you do NEVER start your own business, just go back to working in the supermarket.

Clearly ANet have absolutely no idea what they're doing. How have they lasted so long without your impeccable business sense? Go to them quickly! The fate of Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 is in peril without you! This tragedy must be averted and you alone hold the key!

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:28 - 528

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Originally Posted by flubber

apparently you, like others, are not serious enough, because you didn't meet said criteria(s)

Apparently you, like others with the BMP, are completely missing the point, and still being pathetically selfish. Shame really. No need for me to take 1 second to think why i never PUG'ed or tried to avoid the majority of the GW playerbase in any possible way.

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:28 - 529

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

And I wouldn't mind. Makes it fair, since those who qualified for the pack to begin with deserve something unique that future customers shouldn't get.

Actually, I wouldn't mind that at all.

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:29 - 530

/signed, 10$ is fine for me! Imagine 100 ppl buying BMP for 10$ in-store will generate the Anet income 1000$? so why not?

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:29 - 531

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

Clearly ANet have absolutely no idea what they're doing. How have they lasted so long without your impeccable business sense? Go to them quickly! The fate of Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 is in peril without you! This tragedy must be averted and you alone hold the key!

Clearly your crap response means you understand that im right and that you have no way of backing up any of your points.

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:29 - 532

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Spot on. It's just a shame the majority are too wrapped up in their new tengu weapons to actually realise that this would be fair.

Yup i agree with that. The missions should be available to the masses. But the weapons are still like asian minis and pre-order items for people who joined in the said promotions

Redvex

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:30 - 533

I dunno if you are not able to read

From Gaile Grey

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On November 11th, 2007, [B]Gaile Gray[B] said:

I am still talking to marketing about this. There will not be a give-away — there is no way to justify that. But making the BMP available via other means may be possible. But those other means might still require a credit card, and for that, I’m sorry, but there are a lot of realities to deal with here, along with frustrating delays in getting more means to pay.
I do want you to know that I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means, especially since we closed the option to purchase the PvP Packs a few weeks ago, meaning that some folks were out of luck (as mentioned above).

I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means

I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means

I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means

I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means

I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means

Ok he said SHOULD but at least is something

Chris Blackstar

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

United States

30 Nov 2007 at 22:30 - 534

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

You answered that for me. Thank you very much.

EDIT: Oh and, another poster above me ranting about his new skins and how that's all anyone cares about. How typical.

DAN-the-NOOB, your name is a clear answer to me, I bet you just bought the game because it fell in price and feel you should be able to get every single thing ever offerd. And if not, or what ever. How fair would it be for me who bought the GW:EOTN online because I knew I would recieve the BMP to have Anet say we are offering it for sale. I could have bought the box version, I like to collect game boxes.

If they ever offer it for sale, I will sue Anet to keep it off the market, and I know most if not all the other players would join that type of cass action law suit. It may not be fair because some did not have a chance or waited to the last minute as were too late, but that fairness goes both ways. Understand that if you can

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Join Date: Jan 2007

30 Nov 2007 at 22:30 - 535

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Apparently you, like others with the BMP, are completely missing the point, and still being pathetically selfish. Shame really.

and tell me...what is the point?

the one that I said pages back that they should give all the whiners free access to the mishs, but no weaps? lol

yes it is a shame that people never read the whole threads thru.

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:31 - 536

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Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

Yup i agree with that. The missions should be available to the masses. But the weapons are still like asian minis and pre-order items for people who joined in the said promotions

Yep agreed. New skins would seem like a suitable promotion to me. But i don't see why proper additional content should be denied to people - in a game that is in dire need of some new content.

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

DAN-the-NOOB, your name is a clear answer to me

If that's your best counter arguments then i guess i've won.

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I bet you just bought the game because it fell in price and feel you should be able to get every single thing ever offerd.

Nope, try again.

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I could have bought the box version, I like to collect game boxes.

I could have a credit card so that i could make the online store purchase but umm... nope i can't seem to find it anywhere.

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If they ever offer it for sale, I will sue Anet to keep it off the market, and I know most if not all the other players would join that type of cass action law suit.

You will sue them because:

- Things are now fair.
- You actually have an advantage still from the promotion in that you got it for free - or 3 character slots with it for the same price as we would pay.
- You got exclusive new skins if it is to be sold separately without the weapons.

Go you.

Dev121

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Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:32 - 537

Missions Plz.

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:32 - 538

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

DAN-the-NOOB, your name is a clear answer to me, I bet you just bought the game because it fell in price and feel you should be able to get every single thing ever offerd. And if not, or what ever. How fair would it be for me who bought the GW:EOTN online because I knew I would recieve the BMP to have Anet say we are offering it for sale. I could have bought the box version, I like to collect game boxes.

If they ever offer it for sale, I will sue Anet to keep it off the market, and I know most if not all the other players would join that type of cass action law suit. It may not be fair because some did not have a chance or waited to the last minute as were too late, but that fairness goes both ways. Understand that if you can

First off look at the date he joined secondly stop trolling

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:32 - 539

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Clearly your crap response means you understand that im right and that you have no way of backing up any of your point.

By all means, continue to talk about all the many glaring business flaws you see in ANet's practice. Why no one pays attention to ingenius armchair businessmen like yourself is beyond me.

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:33 - 540

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Yep agreed. New skins would seem like a suitable promotion to me. But i don't see why proper additional content should be denied to people - in a game that is in dire need of some new content.

They are real good missions and i really hope anet will make them available

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:33 - 541

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

If they ever offer it for sale, I will sue Anet to keep it off the market, and I know most if not all the other players would join that type of cass action law suit.

Sorry but if you think lots of players are going to sue the company that runs the game they all play over something as petty as this you are a bit mistaken.

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:34 - 542

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

If they ever offer it for sale, I will sue Anet to keep it off the market, and I know most if not all the other players would join that type of cass action law suit. It may not be fair because some did not have a chance or waited to the last minute as were too late, but that fairness goes both ways. Understand that if you can

You're just as bad as the people who want to sue Anet for offering the BMP in the first place!

No one here has any authority over what a company decides to sell or not sell in the future.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but if Anet decides to sell the BMP at a later date, they are free to do so. Your recourse is to quit GW.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:34 - 543

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

By all means, continue to talk about all the many glaring business flaws you see in ANet's practice. Why no one pays attention to ingenius armchair businessmen like yourself is beyond me.

Your replying = Your paying attention. I'm not a master of business, I wouldnt want to run my own business, my dad does and it doesnt appeal to me. It doesnt take a genius to figure out this is bad marketing and if bill gates saw this he'd buy Anet and sell it to china.

Missions Plz. Also crazy diamonds phone number because I think hes got a thing for me.

Midnight Harmony

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

South East England

Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP]

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:34 - 544

I guarantee that 99% of people who want to keep the BMP exclusive and laugh in the face of others are the same people who argued when others wanted the Divine Aura to be available in the store, and are also the people who need to feed their epeen with Chaos Gloves and the like.

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:36 - 545

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Your replying = Your paying attention. I'm not a master of business, I wouldnt want to run my own business, my dad does and it doesnt appeal to me. It doesnt take a genius to figure out this is bad marketing and if bill gates saw this he'd buy Anet and sell it to china.

This is you pretending to have one iota of an idea of how to run an online business.

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Also crazy diamonds phone number because I think hes got a thing for me.

Jenny, I got yo' number, 867-5309

Chris Blackstar

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

United States

30 Nov 2007 at 22:37 - 546

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Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

First off look at the date he joined secondly stop trolling

First off this whole damm thread is one big flame, or a combination of flaming/trolling, second can we please close it, enough already, Anet said NO!!!

Now will they offer it again if you buy merchandice from the store, maybe. But for now NO, so stop asking.

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:37 - 547

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

I guarantee that 99% of people who want to keep the BMP exclusive and laugh in the face of others are the same people who argued when others wanted the Divine Aura to be available in the store, and are also the people who need to feed their epeen with Chaos Gloves and the like.

I have the BMP but dont have the Divine Aura. I accept i missed out on it. Just like some people have to accept they missed out on the BMP( at least the skins because i do hope Anet will bring out the missions since they are ace)

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:38 - 548

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

This is you pretending to have one iota of an idea of how to run an online business.

Bill Gates would give us the bonus mission pack and he wouldnt just ban you all the time. Anet isnt doing well right now and you must be able to see that.

Also wheres the Mods? Im suprised these werent closed ages ago, unless there letting them run their course.

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 22:38 - 549

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

If they ever offer it for sale, I will sue Anet to keep it off the market, and I know most if not all the other players would join that type of cass action law suit. It may not be fair because some did not have a chance or waited to the last minute as were too late, but that fairness goes both ways. Understand that if you can

What would you file, a class action lawsuit claiming emotional distress? Give me a break. There is no fairness, there's nothing to understand. You people are acting as if you missed/acted on some 50% off car sale. You spent $30, congratulations. Spent. It's just a game.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:38 - 550

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

Anet said NO!!!

This is being serious, can you link to that because i for one havent seen it yet. And if its the case then so be it.

Garvey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:38 - 551

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Originally Posted by Lady Raenef

Here's an idea!

LET PEOPLE BUY THE BONUS PACK for $10! However, they get no special skinned weapons. Let's see how people fly with that.

fine with me

/signed

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:39 - 552

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

First off this whole damm thread is one big flame, or a combination of flaming/trolling, second can we please close it, enough already, Anet said NO!!!

Now will they offer it again if you buy merchandice from the store, maybe. But for now NO, so stop asking.

90% of Guru forums are flames.

Prowlinger

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Join Date: May 2005

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:39 - 553

Starting January 1st, 2008 --

Get the BMP or 1 free char slot if you spend $40 in our online store....

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:40 - 554

Sir Andrew Patrick is viewing our thread :P i hope he gives a response^^

Dev121

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:40 - 555

Andrew is viewing this thread, waits for a response. Hopefully a good one.

SNAP>!

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:42 - 556

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

Now will they offer it again if you buy merchandice from the store, maybe. But for now NO, so stop asking.

I motion that we make this the "Make everything available to everyone" thread, because that's the only way ANet will ever be fair to each and every one of us.

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Bill Gates would give us the bonus mission pack and he wouldnt just ban you all the time. Anet isnt doing well right now and you must be able to see that.

Bill Gates is smart enough to let the people who know about the video game industry run his gaming projects. Just because you disagree with ANet's methods doesn't make it wrong or that they are not doing well. Stop playing armchair businessman and pretending that you know anything about their business.

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 22:42 - 557

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Originally Posted by Garvey

fine with me

/signed

Not by me. I only need the new weapons tbh

Sekoria

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Belgium

RoS

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30 Nov 2007 at 22:43 - 558

I got BMP the "regular" way, but that doesn't mean I'm against other people buying it in the online store. However, if they do that, then they should make collector editions ingame boni (plural of bonus for those who wonder) available through the online store.

The problem is that Gaile Gray told us that the collector boni will never be availble on the ingame store, so I suppose that the BMP, which can be seen as "collector" material, will follow that path. That being said, I'm against that way of thinking, but I'm not megalomaniac enough to think that my opinion matters much to anet.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 22:44 - 559

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy diamond

Bill Gates is smart enough to let the people who know about the video game industry run his gaming projects. Just because you disagree with ANet's methods doesn't make it wrong or that they are not doing well. Stop playing armchair businessman and pretending that you know anything about their business.

Bill Gates makes every computer with his bare hands, hes almost as cool as bono. They arent doing well because a community relations manager comes and tell you loads of details doesnt mean its true, if they told you that they had sold 150 million copies would you beleive them? You probably would.

Age

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Mo/

30 Nov 2007 at 22:46 - 560

/notsigned

I didn't buy EoTN from the online store but I did buy it and I really don't see what the difference is any other company would give it you for free if you did either or either.This is just bad business shoddy anyway I wouldn't buy it anyway if it were in stores or in the online store other got theirs for free why should I or you be punished for not buying or supporting the online store.i have supported the online store before the annoucement of the BMP.To me it is free update to those who bought EoTN through the online store and I had to load up 4 mb of while going to LA.