BMP sell seperate petition.

and in doing that no player with common sense would EVER participate in there Promotions again.

/notsigned

As stated before, there were months in advance for people to purchase from the online store, and it would be unfair to those who actually paid to get the BMP.

It also doesn't help that many of those who now want the BMP are people who said they just plain didn't want it for whatever reason, they thought it would suck, etc. Now they're the ones crying because they missed out on 4 utterly awesome missions, and tons of new awesome weapon skins to boot. How fair is it for those who actually paid to have what they bought just handed out because some little babies are crying because they thought they would get nothing out of the BMP.

Relax everyone!

I think that everyone will win in the long run (except those people that are never happy). However, you have to think of it from the company’s point of view.

So... Let’s think for a moment about the motivation behind the gaming company.

IMO this was a brilliant marketing ploy. Why?

I believe that Anet’s main motivation is to keep people either busy for a long time or hooked on the idea that they have something to look forward to in GW1 (not talking about GW2 here).

I have been playing this game for a long time now and have a lot of accounts and a huge amount of characters. Thus, I am pretty busy in the game and don’t want GW2 to come out any time soon and this is what they want.

With this promotion, more people bought up some of the campaigns that they didn’t have. Not only does this keep these people busy with a new campaign, but it also sells more copies of the campaigns. Thus, they make more money AND get people to play longer. It actually gives people something else to think about and look forward to and it provides some distraction.

Some people only bought character slots but this still means that these people might stop being bored (assuming that some were) with the game and create new characters – perhaps a LDoA for example because they didn’t have space for such a character before. Busy, busy, busy!

Judging from all the “not signed” people here, I’d say that this promotion got a lot of people to buy additional pieces for the game. Some people may have bought a whole new account because of it. Who knows?

Normally I would sign this because I can’t buy from the online store. My family has always been against credit cards, cutting them up on arrival. I suppose that’s one reason they remained so affluent.

Now my hubbie and I live abroad and having no credit card was no big deal to either of us until we wanted to buy Guild Wars Prophesies. I tried to order too many copies of this game at the online store using various friends’ credit cards (which I had to beg to use) only to get banned from the online store forever because they thought I was some sort of bot person (at least this is the reason I eventually came up with).

At the time, I was clueless as to what a bot was and was completely dumbfounded that they wouldn’t supply me with the games when I was paying good money. I also went to great effort to borrow a credit card to get the games, but they didn’t know that until I wrote support and explained it. This, I must have done really poorly because they didn’t believe me and demanded the last several digits of my friend’s credit card, which I was not allowed to divulge.
So, it turns out that there is no online store for me or my hubbie because he is at the same IP address.

However, on the bright side, I have great faith that Anet will sell this promo pack to the public eventually.

There are several rich story lines here that they probably put a decent amount of work into making. These stories will most likely tie in strongly with GW2. It is probably in their best interest if everyone does see them in the long run. In addition, as displayed here, there is a market for this pack’s release. A lot of people want it and have said that they are willing to pay good money for it,

However, it would be unwise for them to release it right now. First of all, and I’m not sure when the ideal time is here, but people will pay more for a product if they feel a greater anticipation for it.

Secondly, for the people who did buy the extras in order to get the free promo, well, they have a pretty large advantage over the others who didn’t purchase it. Aside from the great stories that they will experience, they get to have access to a multitude of very fancy looking weapons, which will be worth quite a sum on the market for a while. These people deserve a chance to finish the stories and sell the weaponry or just use them in missions and feel status (or whatever). They have an opportunity to have something good that a bunch of others don’t have.

When all of this excitement dies down and sales for such items begin to slow, then we will begin to see the promo pack released in stores. Again, I have no idea when that would be, but hopefully I can order it through the store that I deal with.

As soon as they do release it, all the people who didn’t get the pack earlier, but were really looking forward to it, can finally enjoy it at a fair price. This keeps a steady flow of people constantly involved with Guild Wars, plus the company makes a bunch more money selling these copies.

All in all, I have to hand it to the marketing team for being brilliant with this and with so many other strategies. They have worked hard to keep so many people interested in this game for such a long time in a very competitive market. It is obvious to me that they employ a great deal of behaviorist psychology and are training our buying habits. But so what?

I like Guild Wars and want it to stay alive and well and not go under. There is a real heated debate here that I am sure that they had foreseen. I don't think that this company is here to make people feel cheated or cause any fights. I believe that they are just trying to survive their competitors. I am in support of this and don't mind the strategies that they are using now.

I’ll only sign this if I am wrong and there is no future release date. However, this is not what I would expect from this team.

Miss a promotion you miss the reward

A mate was on holiday during the last days of the promotion and rang me to log on for them and qualify their account.
"Couldn't" is not an excuse. they managed it from an island in the Maldives

/signed because it's such an important part of the game and the universe (would you imagine not giving SF to everyone who had Prophecies?), but it should only be released in the middle of 2008, so that we (who got the promotion) still keep an edge over other people.

the people who /notsigned:

why? Honestly haven't seen one good reason why there shouldn't be an extra opportunity to get the BMP.

Only reason I have seen was: Anet/Gaile said it was a limited offer

we all know Anet changes his mind often .

uhm ... it was free right?

Isn't that obvious? The "haha I have it, you don't" reason. Very human-ish. And pathetic.

well, I guess you're right

hf guys

/signed.

I DO have the BMP, but I can understand the frustration of all those who, for ANY reason, could not have gotten it in time. I see here a lot of reason not to offer it, but I don't see a single GOOD one. I'm sure Anet can come up with the proper way to do it. (like selling it for a high enough price (29$?) to keep those who already got it happy, or rewarding them in some way...)

go ask all the people who did buy slots or unlock packs they had no need and use for... Go ask them if it was free...


Bmp costed me 8€ + a retail a gwen box, manual and dvd i don't have because i decided to apply for the bmp when i was supposed to.
Get this straitht; informations were the same for us all.
Some of us decided to go for the bmp , some didn't , mostly speculating about being able to buy it for cheap upon release.
guess what, u were mistaken. Learn this lesson and act wisely next time.

For the people who seriously had no ways to apply for the bmp... Life is cruel. I would love an iphone myself but i live in europe and i have to wait few months still. I'm not crying at Apple's headquarter doors

If I recall correctly, you had to purchase 30 bucks worth of merchandise from the online store. I don't see how that's free

Wrong I don't even have it. At the time I didn't feel like buying anything in the store to get it. The reason I choose to not sign is because some people would have not made purchases in the store at that time if anet didn't make it perfectly clear it would not be available at a later time.

/not signed

You had your chance, now quit whining.

We purchased something for $30 and got something for the $30. The bmp was a BONUS for buying that $30 worth of something

have I stated I didn't qualify?
Buying gwen was enough to get BMP, no need to buy extra character slots for it.
Just because we have got the BMP, why shouldn't other people get another chance to get it. I really don't care if they released it in 2 weeks for free ..
and what has apple to do with it .. >.<

[Signed] I was having financial issues when it was possible to get the BMP, it is, IMO, unfair to players like me who, because of unpredictable circumstances, were not able to buy it, even though we wanted to.
[/Signed]

/signed

I got the BMP and I have no problem whatsoever with a-net selling it to other people for a reasonable price.

The only reason folks in my position could be upset about this would be if we paid a premium to get EotN via the in-game or NCSoft store over what other people paid bargain hunting at brick-an-mortar stores, in order to qualify, and then a-net turned around and sold the BMP for less than that premium we paid. As long as the BMP costs as much or more than the people who have it now had to pay in the form of marked-up prices at the in-game and NCSoft stores, I'm totally fine with a-net selling the BMP. (I might add that I consider having it now to be a form of value -- If they waited until, say, March, and then started giving the BMP away free to everyone, that wouldn't bother me either.)

Yes, you are right. It is fair to deny you the BMP if you, fully aware of its existence, didn't qualify for it.

/notsigned

I would also like to point out that me not signing this petition has got a lot to do with the terrible attitude from some of the pro-sales people I see in this thread.

So, actually,

I'll /sign

providing that every previous time-limited and exclusive offer in the game would be re-offered for a price in the Online Store.

If hypocrisy would get you paid, some people in this thread would be millionaires.

Btw do any of the "Look at me, i have BMP and you don't, I'm awesome" wan't my BMP key? U could be twice has proud of yourself then.

So it's OK for folks who bought EotN in the GW store to give up the box and its contents for the BMP, but not OK for the folks who bought EotN at a brick-and-mortar establishment for the box and its contents to give up the BMP?

That's a valid point.

As I said before, I spent 36€ on each on my accounts in the online store, to buy things I decided were worth buying, outside the promotion period.

During that specific period, there was NOTHING worth buying in the store, there were no skill packs, and retailers sold EoTN 10€ less than the online shop, despite the fact that the online shop gives cash directly to NC/Anet with no intermediation.


Aware of such poor and not convenient offer, and well aware that nobody with some alive neurons would have bought anything from the online store, they threw in this mission pack, and some customers wasted their money in useless things like additional slots they would never have bought.


The whole thing was designed very badly since the beginning, and despite all previous complains raised at the very announcement, they did their best to disappoint a large part of their customer base.

As a side effects, they created and gave strenght to a minority of morons that now come here and give remarkable proofs of stupidity.


If the promotion was succesful in one thing, it was in promoting idiocy.

I think I might be able to summarize the feeling of anyone who signed that didn't originally buy this.

"I didn't think it was cool at first, so I didn't want to waste my time buying something online. But now it's so awesome that I feel robbed because I turned down a limited offer. MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO US!"

/notsigned

/not signed...you had many months to get this.

end of discussion.
got the pot winner

So let me get this straight.

You bought GWEN at a store, because it was cheaper. Knowing that the BMP is only available at the online store?

Right?

You made your choice if this was the situation.

The BMP was timed with the release of GWEN.

Nobody had GWEN.

BMP was the incentive. GWEN was the product.

Its a well designed promotion.

The problem is the payment options of the store, with technical problems and lack of support for everyone (cant really help that).

But other than that, it was a good promo.

I chose it and i dont regret it. I dont have the box, but i have too many game boxes around here anyway.



Flame on. Flame on. Whoosh~


As you prove?

You are a retard. How does the fact that there are more of them in circulation make the skin bad? If you like the look of the skin, to you, it is a nice skin. The amount of them in circulation means nothing. It is still going to be visually appealing.

Ok, i got tired at page 10....

50 NOT SIGNED and 22 signed. This thread is hugely in favor of people who took advantage of a PROMOTIONAL OFFER.

hell

/not signed again.

I could of got GW:EN cheap at play.com but i bought it for more from the ingame store - Paid for BMP too

There is really no way that you couldn't of used the online store within the dates of the BMP

I think this question boils down to whether you view the BMP as like a festival hat / minipet or as like a mini-expansion.

If you think it's as beneficial as a festival hat / mini-ceratadon, then I would argue not offering it through another means. Those are one-time events that belong to those who chose to participate. Gaile herself has stated several times she thinks event hats should never be re-released.

If you think it's more like a mini-expansion - another Sorrow's Furnace, as Fril said - then I would think Anet should find some way to offer it to others. It's a significant experience that all dedicated Guild Wars players should have.

I personally see it as closer to a mini-expansion. My guess is Anet does, too, and we will see it offered in the store for about $12 in a few months.

I actually find myself oddly disappointed that the skins are so cool and so easy to acquire for those who got the BMP. All I did was order thru the online store, and I was going to do that anyway. All these great weapons make dungeon crawling - something I enjoy - seem a lot less worth the time.

/not signed, ill keep it at Bonus mission pack instead of just Mission Pack, and I do own it and im glad I listened to anets advertising

We explained our reasons in every possible way.

We've financed them too much.
We've begged too much.
NC/Anet don't deserve this.
Actually, they don't deserve anything.

Please everyone recover his/her own dignity and stop this plea to such a **** company that has given a remarkable proof of the consideration they have for their customers.

THX BYE.

You suggesting a dedicated player can't manage to make a purchase for such a "must have" item

It was availible to [/b]everyone[/b], some people took advantage of the offer, others didn't. Re-selling it would be like (as you stated) giving away the 1st year hats this Wintersday, unfair to the people that already have one.

Unneeded rant. You had a chance to get BMP didn't use it, bye

Wow, I've never seen such a huge collection of retards. I especially love the OP:

OMG NOOOEEES!!! BMP PACK HAS LEET WEAP0nZ ME WANT NOW HAX!! ME WILL PAY £40 FOR 4 MISSIONS OMG OMG ORGASM.

Then two posts later:

OMG YOU NOOBIES I DIDNT GET THE BMP COS I R TOO POOR AND YOU GET MONEH OF YUR MOM LOLOLOLZ. SO BECAUSE IM SOOOOOOO POOR I WANT TO PAY £40 FOR 4 MISSIONS THAT WERE FREE IN THE FIRST PLACE LOL! A NUCLEAR BOMB EXPLODED NEXT TO MY HEAD LEAVE ME ALONE YOU NUBZORZ.

They have great consideration.

They gave me 4 missions for free, just for buying GW:EN

im happy. Im customer.


See ya!

I don't even know what the whole fight is about. The Guild Wars official page said (quoted from http://www.guildwars.com/products/extras/missionpack/ ):

"For a limited time, when you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or through the PlayNC Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free!"

Translates to: If you spend that much money during this period of time, you'll get a "Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack" free.
This implies that *else* you may not get it *free*, it doesn't say you won't be able to get it at all, so just sit back, relax and see what'll happen.

What makes me curious though is that they wrote "a Bonus Mission Pack", not "the Bonus Mission Pack". Are they planning to release more?

I agree, anyone else that has the BMP angry?

Also i think Anet should put all the past "holiday" events for perchase in the store, right next to where you buy the BMP.
Its like an event in that you had a limit (a very big limit) on how long you could gain access to it
I realise i'll now get a "but you now have unlimited access to it so its an expansion not an event" responce but there is really really no reason anyone couldn't of made a perchase from the ingame store, within the time limit

(to above post) either that or they no use good grammer

It seems most people who have the BMP believe no one else should have it, while the people who don't have the BMP believe that it should be sold separately. However I have a question for those who don't want it to be sold separately. How does Anet reselling the BMP affect you?

Honestly.

Please tell me.

The weapons and books are auto customized so QQing about more people being able to get the weapons are just dumb. All Anet would be doing would be allowing people to delve deeper into the Guild Wars lore.

Also consider that the petition is to sell the BMP separately. This would probably be at say $10-15. The people who already bought the BMP basically got it for free by buying other things for their account. Buying it seperately would actually mean having to spend money on it. Seems like a fair trade-off if you ask me.

To all of you who are wanting the BMP: To Bad.

I, as your fellow player, am sorry that you could not afford, find a way or otherwise be intelligent about getting and obtaining the Bonus Mission Pack. You had four months to devise a way. FOUR months here, not a week, not a month, but four of them.

Get over your selves, stop trying to bring the rest of us down with you and your 'pity us' party EVERY SINGLE ONE of you have been having who complains!

Not only does it make you look like a complete moron, you make this forum that you are posting on look like you. This forum is a highly intelligent place with smart mods, admins and others looking over it. Stop making them look bad because you can't get what you want!!!

STOP making the rest of us players who enjoy playing this game, reguardless, look like we're a bunch of arses because YOU (as the 'pity us' party-gang) feel the need to!

It's disgusting!!!

Yea thats a great Idea. I missed the first haloween event so can I pay £40 to access it for two days plz?

/Sarcasm

So.... has there actually been any confirmation that it WON'T be sold at a later date?
Because this petition is pointless until an official announcement has been made. I vote /close and stop the whining til something is said.

Btw i got mine so im not whining, just had enough of the QQ'ing.

To be honest i don't see ANY way people could genuinely not be able to qualify for BMP
If it's a case of "I couldn't afford it" why are you NOW willing to pay?

Right, because Anet making extra profit and making there customers happy is a bad thing. But seriously, now not only does that post make you look like a complete moron, you make this forum that you are posting on look like you. This forum is a highly intelligent place with smart mods, admins and others looking over it. Stop making them look bad because you can't get what you want!!!