BMP sell seperate petition.

K3nsei

K3nsei

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

ADS

W/

Whatever guys ... This will be available again in some ways some time later.

Be realistic, it's not just 3 average preorder items or an emote we are talking about, it's 4 missions and 4 complete sets of fully customizable weapons.
One-shot promotional contents are never that detailed.

No way that would be a one-time only offer, simply because that would be too much work for just a promotional stuff, i honestly doubt they would waste development efforts on something like this for just a "promotion".

And Anet got to milk the cash cow you know ...
The promotion that was offered was "get it for free in november if you buy stuff online". Some people took it at face value and wasted money on useless stuff "to be sure" to get it.
But they never said anywhere it would not be available in another form later on. They avoided that question, precisely to create doubts (will it be available again later?) so that people would buy stuff, and also to be able to market it in another form later on.
Heck, the whole promotion buzz might as well be just a way to test the community's reaction to this "product", and see if they can sell it separately.
Well considering people's reactions, they obviously can.

No need to /sign, because there's obviously a plan like this going on.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulkor
/notsigned

Why? We were warned three months in advance.
Like some of you already said, I aso like to have game boxes in my possession when I buy a game. And with the announcement of the BMP I thought: Well, I guess because it's a limited offer, I'll go ahead and buy GWEN through the ingame store. I won't get the box, which I love to have, but I'll some nice missions to compensate.
Now tell me this: If A-Net puts the BMP for sale, my purcharse on the store was useless, and I could have bought the game in a real store so I could get the box. If A-Net puts the BMP on sale, I want my GWEN box.
You were warned. Oh, you did'nt know about the weapons? That's too bad, I guess, but the BMP was announced three months in advance. You should have read the website and stayed informed.

The only ones I really feel sorry for are the ones who could'nt buy from the ingame store for whatever reason. But there were three months people. You could have gotten to figure out how you could buy stuff online.

If BMP comes out seperatly, then, there will be petitions for refunds and whatnot. Who, in their perfect sense would buy 3 character slots that serve no good? I would like the GWEN box, but I sacrificed it over to the BMP. If it sells seperatly, I want a GWEN box.
You are still perfectly able to get the box. I am sure that if you were able to spend for three useless slots in order to get the bonus pack, you can spend some more to get the box.

Look the point is not how long the bonus pack was available for purchase. The fact of the matter is people have valid reasons for not being able to purchase online and as the bonus pack is CONTENT not some visual vanity (divine aura) people should be able to access it. As far as I recall, one cannot use the same credit card to purchase products on other accounts.

Is it really that difficult to understand? All those who are not signing, I ask seriously, does it make you feel superior by saying "You have had plenty time, get over it"?

Let me simplify it this way, if you had to pay for three useless slots in order to get the bonus pack, then this was YOUR CHOICE, those who were unable to get the bonus pack for valid reason, HAD NO CHOICE. They were forced to get the retail and thus miss out on the CONTENT that is exclusive to the bonus pack.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

I am 30 years old and without credit card. Why? well, in my country is not a "must" to have one, people normally pay with cash, check, or debit card (that debit cards don't work in GW store because aren't US dollar currency)

Visa and MasterCard are always trying really hard to make people use credit cards, but can't, lol; this country has the habit (as all latin-american country has) to keep all your money (recent payment) in your pockets for "honor" (cannot find the right word for explain this)

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

/not signed.

Specifically I don't want to see it "sold" separately. It was a promotional incentive for people to use the online store during the run up to the last release before GW2. I do sympathise with people who couldn't get hold of it because of the lack of payment options, and for that reason I wouldn't object to seeing it re-issued as a promotional incentive at some point in the future, and for NCSoft / Anet to sort out some better payment options.

Of course the problem with the above is that there may well not be any more substantial things to buy from the online store. So it's a debateable point. However, I'm not overly keen on seeing GW take the route of selling 'gear' for real-world cash, but as the weapons are unmodded and untradeable....that may not be much of a point anyway. For now though, I'm against "selling" it.


However, for the people who could and and didn't utilise the promotion, and are now up in arms because of all the nice new skins. Frankly, quit yer bitchin', you have no decent reason to complain. Didn't think Anet would make something decent? Oops... guess you were wrong.

Edit: I am curious about one thing - I've seen people saying that they can't use a debit card, I've paid for plenty of things online with mine (including GW:EN when I'd normally buy from a store) and also used it to pay online for charges made in USD (and I'm in the UK) how come this isn't possible elsewhere ?

Redvex

Redvex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

R/

a little OT
Eye of the north is for sure the last expansion for guild wars 1 or no word was say on this argument?

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
I am 30 years old and without credit card. Why? well, in my country is not a "must" to have one, people normally pay with cash, check, or debit card (that debit cards don't work in GW store because aren't US dollar currency)

Visa and MasterCard are always trying really hard to make people use credit cards, but can't, lol; this country has the habit (as all latin-american country has) to keep all your money (recent payment) in your pockets for "honor" (cannot find the right word for explain this)
I can't just go and buy anti-biotics without a prescription even though I was perfectly able to (and did) while abroad. I realize that's the rule where I live and I live with it. It means I have to go through the process of getting a prescription.

You live in a place that you know doesn't throw around credit cards. You live with that. I can move elsewhere if I want anti-biotics without a prescription, just as you can move elsewhere (or get a credit card) if you want a little bitty game bonus pack.

It's not that ANet won't let you buy it. It's that you choose not to buy it because doing so would require you to get a credit card or find a bank that has a labeled debit card. You are the reason you don't have it. Nobody else.

Stick to your guns, credit cards trap a lot of people. Sticking to your guns means doing without as well. It's your choice.

I think too many people have confused ArenaNet/NCSoft with Burger King.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
/not signed.

Edit: I am curious about one thing - I've seen people saying that they can't use a debit card, I've paid for plenty of things online with mine (including the BMP) and also used it to pay online for charges made in USD (and I'm in the UK) how come this isn't possible elsewhere ?
Not all debit cards are recongised by the GW store or for that matter many online stores. Fortunely for the UK, cards like Maestro, Solo and Switch do work.

obastable

obastable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
I think he's just blowing BS.. - the guy you replied to I mean..

http://www.horizonplus.ca/
I like your implication that because it's available in Canada that it's available everywhere.


Very funny!

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecomancer
Not all debit cards are recongised by the GW store or for that matter many online stores. Fortunely for the UK, cards like Maestro, Solo and Switch do work.
I'll take your word for it. Mine's actually a Delta, none of those three. And Delta / Electron cards carry a Visa symbol, so generally work anywhere that accepts Visa. I wouldn't know how non-UK banks issue debit cards, so was curious.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
Frankly, quit yer bitchin', you have no decent reason to complain. Didn't think Anet would make something decent? Oops... guess you were wrong.
After the failure of Factions, many customers (me included) were reluctant to buy any further chapter.
ONLY when we realized that NF was a different story, we purchased. NF was there, available, buyable.

If you want to buy a house, what do you do?
Do you just read the advertisement, watch a picture and immediately spend your money without even visiting it?

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
I can't just go and buy anti-biotics without a prescription even though I was perfectly able to (and did) while abroad. I realize that's the rule where I live and I live with it. It means I have to go through the process of getting a prescription.

You live in a place that you know doesn't throw around credit cards. You live with that. I can move elsewhere if I want anti-biotics without a prescription, just as you can move elsewhere (or get a credit card) if you want a little bitty game bonus pack.

It's not that ANet won't let you buy it. It's that you choose not to buy it because doing so would require you to get a credit card or find a bank that has a labeled debit card. You are the reason you don't have it. Nobody else.

Stick to your guns, credit cards trap a lot of people. Sticking to your guns means doing without as well. It's your choice.

I think too many people have confused ArenaNet/NCSoft with Burger King.
Welcome to 2007. WTF Bank doesn't have a labeled debit card? Seriously, even the poedunk bank by Purdue (PEFCU) has labeled debit cards. I mean, its time to maybe venture outside the town you live in with a population of 12, 5 of which are inbreds. Cmon, that is no excuse. In an era where we can fit 400 TRANSISTORS ON A RED BLOOD CELL, where we can have cars that run on water, where we can create cloaking technology, that you can't get a modern debit card from a centralized chain of banking establishments? People are being idiotic. If your parents believe online shopping risks their security, then I have but one thing to say...


Here, I will give you all my Cell Phone number, encrypted. Good luck
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Call me anytime. I dare you.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

There is always the option of buying a PREPAID Visa or MasterCard, and they are accepted by NC-Soft. Anyone who says that they are not availeble where they live either are to lazy or don't have the money anyway.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
There is always the option of buying a PREPAID Visa or MasterCard, and they are accepted by NC-Soft. Anyone who says that they are not availeble where they live either are to lazy or don't have the money anyway.
Thank you very very much.

"I can't get one!"

What? Do you live under a rock? Here, I give you the wheel and fire. Seriously, go to a mall, they "sell" the Visa giftcards there. GG

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Everyone is missing the point. If Anet sold this in the online shop, it would be FREE MONEY. They don't have to do ANYTHING, except collect free money. It's stupid NOT to put it up for sale...

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
I think too many people have confused ArenaNet/NCSoft with Burger King.
Hmm, they are turning into. I want a mini He-Man toy with my next purchase.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Thank you very very much.

"I can't get one!"

What? Do you live under a rock? Here, I give you the wheel and fire. Seriously, go to a mall, they "sell" the Visa giftcards there. GG
Do you live with the premise that everyone is from the USA?

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Everyone is missing the point. If Anet sold this in the online shop, it would be FREE MONEY. They don't have to do ANYTHING, except collect free money. It's stupid NOT to put it up for sale...
No, because that would backstab all those of us who bought items we don't really use to unlock it (extra character slots, PvP editions, w/e) Unless they charge 30 USD, in which case, everyone will start "OMG ANET ARE MEAN, 30 USD I AM NOT BUYING GW2, THEY ARE NOOBZ" threads all over Riverside. Oh, how fun that would be. Inde would just nuke the server for a few days after that (either that, or rip her eyes out attempting to read the rapid, mouth foaming threads of rage)


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecomancer
Do you live with the premise that everyone is from the USA?
As I understood it, they added European means to pay. I speak mainly for Americans complaining, you Europeans have your own battle to wage there, so I am not even going to get into that. If that be the case, then the Euro servers maybe should have a buying option, but not for the US servers. Not getting the BMP was either by choice or by pure laziness in the case of US people.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
No, because that would backstab all those of us who bought items we don't really use to unlock it (extra character slots, PvP editions, w/e) Unless they charge 30 USD, in which case, everyone will start "OMG ANET ARE MEAN, 30 USD I AM NOT BUYING GW2, THEY ARE NOOBZ" threads all over Riverside. Oh, how fun that would be. Inde would just nuke the server for a few days after that (either that, or rip her eyes out attempting to read the rapid, mouth foaming threads of rage)
The point was to buy EOTN and get that free with it. We all bought EOTN, just not through the shop, as the shop has terrible security. Buying things from the shop just to get the BMP, is the same as just BUYING the BMP.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by obastable
I like your implication that because it's available in Canada that it's available everywhere.


Very funny!
I was under the assumption that Interac was only in Canada. If it's not then I stand corrected. if it is, then you're a troll. Read back through the conversation.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
The point was to buy EOTN and get that free with it. We all bought EOTN, just not through the shop, as the shop has terrible security. Buying things from the shop just to get the BMP, is the same as just BUYING the BMP.
No, it was to reward players (technically) for buying GW:EN through the online store OR PlayNC store. And the PlayNC store is very secure. Oh, and the online shop doesn't have bad security.

Again, here is my cell phone number. Call me, we can discuss this further.
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Selling it for less then 30 USD would be cruel to those who didn't buy GW:EN, but rather bought other junk to add up to it.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Welcome to 2007. WTF Bank doesn't have a labeled debit card? Seriously, even the poedunk bank by Purdue (PEFCU) has labeled debit cards. I mean, its time to maybe venture outside the town you live in with a population of 12, 5 of which are inbreds. Cmon, that is no excuse. In an era where we can fit 400 TRANSISTORS ON A RED BLOOD CELL, where we can have cars that run on water, where we can create cloaking technology, that you can't get a modern debit card from a centralized chain of banking establishments? People are being idiotic. If your parents believe online shopping risks their security, then I have but one thing to say...


Here, I will give you all my Cell Phone number, encrypted. Good luck
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Call me anytime. I dare you.
lol, sorry, I think you are confusing me with the poster I replied to. He was complaining about not having a credit card where he lived. I have many credit cards and a labeled debit card. i used one of them to qualify for the BMP, which I have now. I agree with everything you said. I just think it needs to be directed to the guy I quoted..

:-)

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnaxus
After the failure of Factions, many customers (me included) were reluctant to buy any further chapter.
ONLY when we realized that NF was a different story, we purchased. NF was there, available, buyable.

If you want to buy a house, what do you do?
Do you just read the advertisement, watch a picture and immediately spend your money without even visiting it?
So after seeing that they managed to improve on a campaign based (presumably) on negative customer feedback you then decide not to buy (I use the term "buy" loosely, as it came free if you bought something up to a specific value) something as it will then be a failure? Don't see your logic there, I'm afraid. If you'd put "GW:EN" instead of "Factions" perhaps I would. But you didn't.

Personally, I've never considered factions a failure, I enjoyed it immensely, and still do.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
No, because that would backstab all those of us who bought items we don't really use to unlock it (extra character slots, PvP editions, w/e) Unless they charge 30 USD, in which case, everyone will start "OMG ANET ARE MEAN, 30 USD I AM NOT BUYING GW2, THEY ARE NOOBZ" threads all over Riverside. Oh, how fun that would be. Inde would just nuke the server for a few days after that (either that, or rip her eyes out attempting to read the rapid, mouth foaming threads of rage)
Theres a vast difference between being choosing to get something in the hope of getting something else with it for free (even if it means getting something that is not needed) and not being able to make that choice.

I can choose to travel by first class on an airlines and really I am paying for the comfort that comes with it, however there might be additional features that I may not even use or need (such as laptop charger etc). But then again, everyone has the choice of being able to book first class.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
lol, sorry, I think you are confusing me with the poster I replied to. He was complaining about not having a credit card where he lived. I have many credit cards and a labeled debit card. i used one of them to qualify for the BMP, which I have now. I agree with everything you said. I just think it needs to be directed to the guy I quoted..

:-)
No no, I wasn't directing it at you. As I said "People are retarded", not you. It was a broad generalized statement, although looking back, I could see where you got the idea it was pointed at you, I apologize.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecomancer
Theres a vast difference between being choosing to get something in the hope of getting something else with it for free (even if it means getting something that is not needed) and not being able to make that choice.

I can choose to travel by first class on an airlines and really I am paying for the comfort that comes with it, however there might be additional features that I may not even use or need (such as laptop charger etc). But then again, everyone has the choice of being able to book first class.
Not to rain on your parade or anything, but..... nevermind, pardon me while I vomit thanks to this thread of +7 to retardation. Reading through this thread has caused me to lose more brain cells then binge drinking through college ever could have. Thanks for lowering my IQ and being LAZY. (not directed at you in particular Eco)

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
So after seeing that they managed to improve on a campaign based (presumably) on negative customer feedback you then decide not to buy (I use the term "buy" loosely, as it came free if you bought something up to a specific value) something as it will then be a failure? Don't see your logic there, I'm afraid. If you'd put "GW:EN" instead of "Factions" perhaps I would. But you didn't.

Personally, I've never considered factions a failure, I enjoyed it immensely, and still do.
Well EoTN was for you what Factions was for me (and not only for me).

This doesn't change the concept, every buyer wants to check what he/she is spending money for, unless he/she gives absolutely no value to money or is a complete dumb that buys everything he/she sees.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnaxus
Well EoTN was for you what Factions was for me (and not only for me).

This doesn't change the concept, every buyer wants to check what he/she is spending money for, unless he/she gives absolutely no value to money or is a complete dumb that buys everything he/she sees.
Try using that logic when buying insurance. Watch how fast you kill yourself.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
No no, I wasn't directing it at you. As I said "People are retarded", not you. It was a broad generalized statement, although looking back, I could see where you got the idea it was pointed at you, I apologize.



Not to rain on your parade or anything, but..... nevermind, pardon me while I vomit thanks to this thread of +7 to retardation. Reading through this thread has caused me to lose more brain cells then binge drinking through college ever could have. Thanks for lowering my IQ and being LAZY. (not directed at you in particular Eco)
lol, no worries I knew it wasn't directed at me (unless by mistake). Again you hit the target on the mark and I got a laugh when I realized you were referring to the other people. I figured I would reply though in case someone else decided to chime in...

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Try using that logic when buying insurance. Watch how fast you kill yourself.
Well, I can understand that the pertinence of this example is a direct result of this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Reading through this thread has caused me to lose more brain cells then binge drinking through college ever could have. Thanks for lowering my IQ and being LAZY.

Ecomancer

Ecomancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
No no, I wasn't directing it at you. As I said "People are retarded", not you. It was a broad generalized statement, although looking back, I could see where you got the idea it was pointed at you, I apologize.



Not to rain on your parade or anything, but..... nevermind, pardon me while I vomit thanks to this thread of +7 to retardation. Reading through this thread has caused me to lose more brain cells then binge drinking through college ever could have. Thanks for lowering my IQ and being LAZY. (not directed at you in particular Eco)
If this thread makes you so sick as to vomit please do yourself a favour and don't bother reading or replying, its bad for your health. You wouldn't want to drop out of college due to retardation caused by others and your brain ceasing to function altogether. First time I heard of a thread causing health a health hazard. (nothing personal of course).

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hey Rahja the Thief, not offend, but .. do you know there are a whole world outside USA?

You are up-left in that little country:

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Congratulations Rahja on being the 1000th Retard to post in this thread.

You dont understand what alot of people are saying because your not stupid I know you well enough to know that, your ignorant.

People who bought GW:EN had two choice, online or in store, I prefer instore, its personal choice and why should'nt it be? I'm giving both money to Anet, the store and my goverment which I have no problem with. Then im not allowed access to extra content to a game I've played for a while because I didnt buy it in the way they wanted me too? Theres billions of other situations where you could say 'THATS LIFE' but in the case where theres many loyal customers who can be easily contacted by Anet then its different, especcialy when youve already given them some of your money.
I could of got a credit card to buy extra character slots, why? The main focus of the game now is to complete one character with all titles is it not? Why do I need more than 8 or 9 slots.

I guess your just another person who doesnt read other peoples responses and would rather just come and declare its the new age and everyone should go virtual, I have no problems with walking to the store to buy stuff so why should'nt I get access to extra content?

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecomancer
If this thread makes you so sick as to vomit please do yourself a favour and don't bother reading or replying, its bad for your health. You wouldn't want to drop out of college due to retardation caused by others and if your brain cells are being damaged I would strongly recommend staying away from this thread; wouldn't want to end up mentally retarded for life would we? (nothing personal of course).
Oh, the good news is, I am already out of university. The bad news is, people are just LAZY and can't live with their mistakes, so they want ANET to kiss their boo boos and make it all "rainbow sunshine yeh goodies for the unicorns in the magic meadows" happy for them. You snooze, you lose. There is NO EXCUSE for US citizens to be complaining they couldn't get the BMP.

Security issues, what security issues. Again, call me.
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No Credit Card! Use a debit card noob.

No Debit card! Open a checking account with a bank that has more then 1 location. GG

Too young! Ask mom to take you to the mall and get a prepaid Visa.

Parents are mean and won't let me. Get another relative/friend.

No one will take me! Take the bus.

No public transportation. Go emo young, your screwed (and are probably under 13 anyways, so you shouldn't be playing according to the ESRB)


No excuses except your own. Cheese with your whine? Riverside isn't your pity pot. This is old.


Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121
Congratulations Rahja on being the 1000th Retard to post in this thread.

You dont understand what alot of people are saying because your not stupid I know you well enough to know that, your ignorant.

People who bought GW:EN had two choice, online or in store, I prefer instore, its personal choice and why should'nt it be? I'm giving both money to Anet, the store and my goverment which I have no problem with. Then im not allowed access to extra content to a game I've played for a while because I didnt buy it in the way they wanted me too? Theres billions of other situations where you could say 'THATS LIFE' but in the case where theres many loyal customers who can be easily contacted by Anet then its different, especcialy when youve already given them some of your money.
I could of got a credit card to buy extra character slots, why? The main focus of the game now is to complete one character with all titles is it not? Why do I need more than 8 or 9 slots.

I guess your just another person who doesnt read other peoples responses and would rather just come and declare its the new age and everyone should go virtual, I have no problems with walking to the store to buy stuff so why should'nt I get access to extra content?
I am far from retarded. Care to test my waters? You will drown.

As I stated, I am all for them selling it, for 30 USD. But, oh no! That is too much for so little. Whoops... didn't catch that did you?

@ The WOrld Map above... I said the US people. You euro people should have the option if payment methods that are readily available were not presented to you. That is only fair.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnaxus
Well EoTN was for you what Factions was for me (and not only for me).

This doesn't change the concept, every buyer wants to check what he/she is spending money for, unless he/she gives absolutely no value to money or is a complete dumb that buys everything he/she sees.
Perhaps I didn't make my point clear enough.

Eye of the North wasn't a failure for me at all, far from it.

What I am saying is that you're harking back to a campaign that is what.. 18 months ago? So because you didn't like that one, you're not prepared to buy something up to the value of £17 / 29.99 USD online to get the free BMP , it's too much of a risk, because it might be a failure.

So presumably (and granted I'm making an assumption here) you enjoyed both Nightfall & Eye of the North. If you'd bought the latter in the online store you wouldn't need for the BMP to be sold separately.

Oh and seriously, please don't compare buying a house to buying a game. The difference in price just makes that a ludicrous analogy.

Do I read reviews of games before I buy them? Yes, if I haven't played any of the developers output before. Am I swayed by advertisements? No, because it's all marketing. We're talking here about a product that has had enough output for you to have some sort of idea about what you're going to get. If you chose to believe that it wouldn't be worth the risk based on one release out of four that is over a year old ... well no I don't have any sympathy.

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Hey Rahja the Thief, not offend, but .. do you know there are a whole world outside USA?
yes and you can contact it via the WWW.
like wow, what a concept.

-I bet if I really wanted to, I could find each and every one of these people who claim that they can't get a CC/debit card compatible for anet/ncsoft purchases a way to make payment.

it's amazing how some of these 'adults' have no problem solving skills, and to boot...had 90 days to solve the problem.

Lord Sojar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by flubber
yes and you can contact it via the WWW.
like wow, what a concept.

-I bet if I really wanted to, I could find each and every one of these people who claim that they can't get a CC/debit card compatible for anet/ncsoft purchases.

it's amazing how some of these 'adults' have no problem solving skills, and to boot...had 90 days to solve the problem.
LOL. GG, /winthread.

Oh, and if I didn't make it clear in my edit above.

Personal attacks on my intelligence will only result in me having to raise my intellect level, at which point, you will lose. Don't play that game, keep the personal flames out of this thread. Thanks. This is a logical (albeit uneeded) debate. You making personal stabs at me will only switch on super sarcasm mode. Trust me, you don't want that.

CyberNigma

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Hey Rahja the Thief, not offend, but .. do you know there are a whole world outside USA?

You are up-left in that little country:
I've traveled abroad extensively. I realize there are places that don't have commonly available alternatives. I've been to places where my credit cards were not accepted and didn't even work in some places with ATM machines. The truth is that maybe ArenaNet should not market their products to people in those locales until ArenaNet has a method for them to pay. Ultimately, though, those people still lose out.

Not all countries are created equal. not all locales within countries are created equal. Immigration is constantly active due to those reasons. Admittedly, moving because someone can't get a game bonus pack is a bit absurd, but people have to either accept where they live or change where they live (by changing it or leaving it).

For an online-only promotion, offering in-store cards (or allowing PlayNC game cards to be used on the online store) defeats the purpose as the retailer is still taking their cut. By getting customers to buy directly from the store, they are trying to maximize their cut. If people can't buy from the online store and they see what they are missing, they may very well try whatever they can to have the capability next time something is offered.

The solution is probably a middle-ground, to allow people to use PlayNC game cards (which are found in stores) to apply towards products in the GW store. If you can't even get one of those, then you really are out of luck and need to accept that you're screwed.

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Originally Posted by fenix
Everyone is missing the point. If Anet sold this in the online shop, it would be FREE MONEY. They don't have to do ANYTHING, except collect free money. It's stupid NOT to put it up for sale...
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So far this is the only post I've seen that makes any sense in a 38 page thread littered with virtual fecal matter and flames. Go Fenix!!!

Ecomancer

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Oh, the good news is, I am already out of university. The bad news is, people are just LAZY and can't live with their mistakes, so they want ANET to kiss their boo boos and make it all "rainbow sunshine yeh goodies for the unicorns in the magic meadows" happy for them. You snooze, you lose. There is NO EXCUSE for US citizens to be complaining they couldn't get the BMP.

Security issues, what security issues. Again, call me.
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No Credit Card! Use a debit card noob.

No Debit card! Open a checking account with a bank that has more then 1 location. GG

Too young! Ask mom to take you to the mall and get a prepaid Visa.

Parents are mean and won't let me. Get another relative/friend.

No one will take me! Take the bus.

No public transportation. Go emo young, your screwed (and are probably under 13 anyways, so you shouldn't be playing according to the ESRB)


No excuses except your own. Cheese with your whine? Riverside isn't your pity pot. This is old.
I think the retardation you speak of has also given you verbal diarrhea. Judging by your vehement comments its quite obvious who has caused the retardation and to whom.

I have noticed that a large percentage who disagree with the notion of reintroducing the promotion or selling the bonus pack seperatley, have this violent stance towards those in favour - and not only that, they are the ones who seem to be denigrating the thread at hand and calling for its closure.

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Originally Posted by I MP I
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So far this is the only post I've seen that makes any sense in a 38 page thread littered with virtual fecal matter and flames. Go Fenix!!!
What Fenix failed to mention is that in order to be fair, if they were to sell it, it must be 29USD minimum. And as I have stated, what would that cause riverside to do?

Here is one possibility...




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Originally Posted by Ecomancer
I think the retardation you speak of has also given you verbal diarrhea. Judging by your vehement comments its quite obvious who has caused the retardation and to whom.

I have noticed that a large percentage who disagree with the notion of reintroducing the promotion or selling the bonus pack seperatley, have this violent stance towards those in favour - and not only that, they are the ones who seem to be denigrating the thread at hand and calling for its closure.
So you continue with personal attacks. Fine, so be it.

What you have failed to realize is that, there are MANY options available to we US citizens. I cannot speak for the Europeans in this matter, nor shall I. But any American who plays Guild Wars (and is of age to actually be playing the game) should and IS able to acquire a means to purchase the needed amount in the online store. The fact is, it is purely laziness that has caused these remorseful individuals to post here. Now, they see what they CHOSE to miss out on when they didn't take the 90 days they were given to fulfill the needed purchase amount, and they whine to no end. Well boo hoo. I missed a promotion when I bought my car. My car payment is 920 dollars a month, it could have been 790. I am not crying about it. Live and learn.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

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To all /notsigners

What a pathetic bunch of assholes I discovered, thanks, never realized before it was possible some people actually exist.

Very informative.