BMP sell seperate petition.

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Xanthier
Xanthier
Academy Page
#381
I'd quite like to sign it too, for the people who actually had no way to get it previously. It'd be nice if it were a separate purchase.
Jaythen Tyradel
Jaythen Tyradel
Jungle Guide
#382
Sell it in the ingame store? Maybe, but that still leaves people without CC or access to obtain a CC (age, location, desire to have a CC, discrepancies between Currency exchange between countries, are some of these factors).

Sell it in retail stores? They are nice missions, but not worth the cost of selling at a retail store with a box/manual/shelf space.

Re-run the promo again in the future? Good idea, but still the whole CC option. I thought they were working on SMS for an alternate payment now that I think about it.
Shakti
Shakti
Wilds Pathfinder
#383
Dead horse in corner quick, everyone beat it -------------->

This QQ has been going on since the info was released. Can we move on now?
Redvex
Redvex
Wilds Pathfinder
#384
PLEASE READ THIS AND STOP ANY FLAME!!!!!!!!!!
From Gaile Grey

Quote:
On November 11th, 2007, Gaile Gray said:

I am still talking to marketing about this. There will not be a give-away — there is no way to justify that. But making the BMP available via other means may be possible. But those other means might still require a credit card, and for that, I’m sorry, but there are a lot of realities to deal with here, along with frustrating delays in getting more means to pay.
I do want you to know that I strongly believe the Bonus Mission Pack SHOULD be available via other means, especially since we closed the option to purchase the PvP Packs a few weeks ago, meaning that some folks were out of luck (as mentioned above).
In other words there're a lot of possibilities that who don't have bmp can still get (i think from online-shop) but it require credit card and IT WILL BE NOT FREE!!!!!!
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#385
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Originally Posted by Firebaall
uh-huh
Where's the 'bonus' part of this mission pack if you spent all this money just to get it?
Prowlinger
Prowlinger
Lion's Arch Merchant
#386
Well at least just offer it some how... I missed the boat too and am a sad panda...

/SIGNED
/SEALED
/LICKED
/STAMPED
/MAILED
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Egwene Tyr
Ascalonian Squire
#387
/notsigned

everyone had enough time to get this and there was enough information out there how to.
So if you snoozed.. you lost..
Diddy bow
Diddy bow
Furnace Stoker
#388
/on the fence

I knew somthing like this would happen after we saw a-net acctually put some time into it xD, although id like it it wouldnt be fair on those who did it the right way.
Prowlinger
Prowlinger
Lion's Arch Merchant
#389
Well I don't expect it to be free but at least charge $9.99 for it or something ... or rerun the promo again for Christmas...

Not everyone has had the means to buy it in the timeframe given...

Legion Magnus
Legion Magnus
Frost Gate Guardian
#390
My .03 cents on this issue:

I'm ambivalent about owning the BMP. It would have been nice to have since I own all the other GW products, but no biggie to me. Cheers to those who have it, and are enjoying it!

What I do object to, as a consumer, is ANet's foray into what I believe (an opinion) is their attempt to force people to use the Online Store to obtain the BMP. It may be their intended 'shape of things to come.' I chose not to 'acquire' the BMP because I do not want to use the Online Store. True, it is a 'Bonus' item, but it required an online purchase to acquire it.

I barely trust Visa/MasterCard to secure my online transactions, and I don't completely trust well established online e-stores to protect my personal data. You can probably guess my opinion of the PlayNC/Online store, especially with all the issues people have reported about their experiences. Many will have had no issues, I'm sure, but others definitely have reported serious technical concerns. (yes, I understand that Visa (i.e.) is the transaction device but how well does PlayNC protect your data?)

If ANet chooses to (effectively) sell the BMP or future products only via such channels then, so be it, it is their option to do so. It is, however, our choice as consumers whether to support their decision by our purchases, or not.

I truly believe this is the larger issue at work here. I think people should consider whether to support ANet's 'shape of things to come.'

/minor rant off
Firebaall
Firebaall
Krytan Explorer
#391
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Where's the 'bonus' part of this mission pack if you spent all this money just to get it?
Anet very carefully made it clear it wasn't the mission pack that you paid for. It was a reward (a bonus), for spending that $29.00 in there online store. It was a promotion.

i.e.

NOT FOR SALE

This premis is what's in jeopardy if they give in and sell it for cash.

It would be a bit amusing if they did sell if for cash though. Everybody understands it was a device to discourage people from buying GW:EN from retail stores, and maximize profits. There's not much overhead when you don't have to supply material and split $$$ with the merchants. Those merchants would be awfully upset if it was specific to GW:EN.

The confusion that so many seem to have is why it was offically a general $29.00 on "whatever" from the online store. It's also interesting to understand why it was time limited.
Firebaall
Firebaall
Krytan Explorer
#392
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legion Magnus

My .03 cents on this issue:
Finally somebody that reads between the lines, and sees the bigger picture.
z
zerulus
Jungle Guide
#393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redvex
PLEASE READ THIS AND STOP ANY FLAME!!!!!!!!!!
From Gaile Grey



In other words there're a lot of possibilities that who don't have bmp can still get (i think from online-shop) but it require credit card and IT WILL BE NOT FREE!!!!!!
Does that mean I'll be able to purchase divine aura as well? I didn't know about guild wars let alone the collectors edition when it was first released so I did not have any way of obtaining it, but by the logic here I'm obviously entitled to it if I'm willing to pay an additional fee now.
wetsparks
wetsparks
Desert Nomad
#394
i like it how this thread popped back up again after people realized that the weapons were pretty damn good.
Ecomancer
Ecomancer
Frost Gate Guardian
#395
I thought it would be rather interesting to see some figures relating to the bonus pack. Purely from a business standpoint, it would be silly not to market the bonus pack if there are more people who do not have it unlocked, compared to those that do.

Gaile's response about these petitions on the other forum is shocking, dare I say typical. Same old condescending tone, but we are accustome to that by now.
Darksun
Darksun
Jungle Guide
#396
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
Yes they implemented 2 other options one for the UK & 1 for Germany, last I checked Europe was a hell of a lot bigger then those two countries.
So is the planet. If the only thing that will make you happy is accommodating the world, you're gonna have problems with all of life.

If Anet only accommodated their HOME COUNTRY it would be reasonable. Hell some co.s offer things only at conferences, so? There are many European products that are not available to the rest of the world. Japan has the title on cool anime stuff I can't get.. Boo Hoo for me.

It's reasonable, and it's fine.
Prowlinger
Prowlinger
Lion's Arch Merchant
#397
Honestly, from a marketing stand point... it would be financially ignorant to NOT re-run the promo again... If you know that you can GUARANTEE that X # of GW players WANT the promo run again that missed it (by whatever means) ... I WILL buy the minimum to unlock the BMP... that is just simple logic... Why turn away sales when there is STILL demand?

Right now I know I will spend the required $30-$40 to get the BMP free... IF they re-run the promo....

(Yes I missed the initial call for the BMP... enough said.)
Firebaall
Firebaall
Krytan Explorer
#398
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prowlinger
Honestly, from a marketing stand point... it would be financially ignorant to NOT re-run the promo again... If you know that you can GUARANTEE that X # of GW players WANT the promo run again that missed it (by whatever means) ... WILL buy the minimum to unlock the BMP... that is just simple logic... Why turn away sales when there is STILL demand?

Right now I know I will spend the required $30-$40 to get the BMP free... IF they re-run the promo....

(Yes I missed the initial call for the BMP... enough said.)
This isn't what this petiton is asking for. They are asking for Anet to sell it SEPERATE.

If they run the promo again, it would actually support the idea that it wasn't designed specifically for the purpose of siphoning off sales of GW:EN from their retail partners.

But hey, I missed out on the Divine Aura in the CE editions of phophecies. Can I buy those too? They'd make heaps of money off those...

Same thing, really.
X
X-Bomb
Wilds Pathfinder
#399
I thought the whole point was that Anet doesnt SELL additional content, that all upgrades would be free > See Sorrows Furnace. Thats why they offered it as a promotion (most people got eligability by buying GWEN albeit at an additional cost, then buying it through a online retail store such as game or play.com)

If Anet decides to sell it as an extra now then i wouldnt be too happy as i missed out on my GWEN box + paid a little extra in the online shop as well.
Ecomancer
Ecomancer
Frost Gate Guardian
#400
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
So is the planet. If the only thing that will make you happy is accommodating the world, you're gonna have problems with all of life.

If Anet only accommodated their HOME COUNTRY it would be reasonable. Hell some co.s offer things only at conferences, so? There are many European products that are not available to the rest of the world. Japan has the title on cool anime stuff I can't get.. Boo Hoo for me.

It's reasonable, and it's fine.
Products vary from region to region. The reason why some products are not available globally is for that very reason. Japan has very different tastes compared to Europe and the same holds for the Americas.

However, as GW is a global product, it does not have much of a cultural significance.