BMP sell seperate petition.

No. You know what thread would exist? One full of whiners that they wanted a refund, and that their "risk" didn't pay off. Utterly pathetic.

yes but the subject would have been we told you stupids it would suck and look how much money i saved

Of course no. No one wants to spend real money for crap.

There would be a thread like "A.net got 30 of my hard earned bucks for 3 useless character slots and gave me this crap".

But this, again, this is common sense. That is largely lost in our world.

Okay I'll change that then, people who have acquired the BMP. I didn't mean Bought because I know fine rightly that it's not purchased. I mean these are people who have access to the BMP

Why didn't i go for the online store way?

- I have no credit card / debit card.
- I somehow missed the fact that buying GW:EN enabled me for a free mission pack.
- I never trust buying offline (especially as Paypal isn't an option).

No i don't want it from the online store unless they make payment options better.

Well i've tried explaining i don't want it for the weapon skins, but the fact you don't understand that is the clear reason why you're on my ignore list. Maybe use your brain (i know it's hard) to figure this thread was made WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before any new skins came out.

No. Your reasons are "verified" by more idiotic selfish retards saying "i have it so i don't want you to have it". That doesn't make your reasons valid.

*sigh* I think i've said enough times i'd PAY for the BMP WITHOUT weapon skins.

For the hundredth time: No. It wasn't.

- Depending on where you live, this isn't an excuse. And considering there few places that don't have access to pre-paid debit cards you could most likely even purchase online via the aforementioned Paypal, I'll assume you don't live there.
- Now its Areanets fault you didn't read the fine print?
- Now its Areanets fault don't trust the internet? Welcome to the 2000's.

It wasn't displayed in the client until a day or so after EotN went live.

I've posted my opinion, and stated whether I would sign or not sign, but I really cant be bothered to sit and defend myself in this thread, which is pretty much BMP Players Vs Non BMP Players. =]

Are you 100% sure? Because I distinctly remember wondering how the hell I was going to qualify for the BMP before EotN went live in the store. And I don't go digging for Areanet's promotions unless they are on the login-screen.

Now it's your fault for putting words in my mouth? Where did i blame anet for the 2 latter of my reasons to not purchase it?

4 missions content for a game that according to most, is dieing, and needs content, outweighs a crummy box and disc 90% of people don't give a shit about. But you fail to see that.. because you have the BMP.

no it wouldn't. the only reason people are crying about it now is because it turned out to be as cool as it is. I think that people need to reexamine the definitions of limited time offer and promotional package. This is the same as asking for a re-release of the CE's for the chapters. You missed out, for whatever reason. Another thread has adequately covered why there is no excuse for anyone to not have gotten it if they wanted it, pre-paid credit cards, a payment option for euro folks who use pin based systems etc. Everyone had the same opportunity to meet the requirements to get the pack and now that opportunity has passed. /notsigned

Then how are 'you didn't know EotN would qualify you for the BMP' and 'I'm scared of the internet' reasons you didn't go to Areanet's Online store?

Here, I'll try to rephrase the post for you: If you didn't read the fine print on the promotion, why should Areanet cater to you days after the promotion goes live? Because that is what you are asking for, isn't it?

then why are you even posting here?

then why not make a thread on that?


yes - but also it was noted that there WILL be rewards,and in the form of weapon skins is an obvious remark - most probably thought it will be a reskin.
Also - i though im on your ignore list because i have an incredibly huge urge to be talkative in whisp and have an habit of having a "running commentary"
also because i "seem" to be offensive when you do something wrong.


and the other people who havn't got it seeming to say "we missed the BMP for several reasons although we fail at validity even more than the guys who got it" hmmmm...


me want packet of GW:EN too.
but me dont get.
me QQ?

also - watch the greatness of this gift decrease.
just.watch.

Yep i totally agree. More new content is the same as a collector's edition dance. A new dance would spark more life into this game and prevent a bit of boredom in the same way more content would.

Um because i want the BMP? Gogo brainwave.

Or you could use the search function to see there already is one?

Gee, you kinda ran out of counter arguments quickly and then try to gain a sympathy vote by posting your issues in an un-related thread. You were /ignored because you're a silly, immature annoying 13 yr old. It's no wonder i expected this kind of view from you as someone with the BMP.

Show me the quote containing those words. Better yet as you were replying to me, quote myself saying those words.

Me try to reason, but you fail to understand. There is no reasoning with immature children, that is why i won't bother. I'll just counter argue.

Pretty Certain. I'm from Europe and when EotN went live at Midnight? Pacific time? It was 8am My time, so I'm pretty sure it appeared later in the day or a day or so later. And I'm with you, I don't go looking for the promotions which is why I bought EotN in a store.

Bumping one of the nicest idea on this thread. Please read it. It can make everyone happy on both sides of the argument, couldn't it?

GG lyra_song.

Therefore this is definitely an appreciation thread to BMP

Not exactly sure when it appeared on the character selection screen, but I'm certain it was before August 31st (EotN Live date). If anyone could clarify, it would be appreciated. Again, I didn't go digging for the promotion when it was first announced, but I know I was wondering what I was going to buy to qualify for it at least a week before EotN was released.

I still wouldn't have my box for buying EotN in the in-game store only under the premise that doing so was the only way to access the BMP. still /notsigned.

um because you just said you want it although you dont like creditcard functions?

or just put in the URL for the lazys?
then baffle them more with a /point /laugh like i would expect from you anyway?

then why did you bring the "youre on my ignore" situation into this if you know im "silly,immature annoying 13 yr old"?
you just dragged yourself into that one - so then you blame me for it?
also false assumptions fail

done and done


o sry im immature,but playing a game for fun was now bad for you or something?
i would gladly agree to this if they also put in CHunterX's idea
(we get packaging,you get BMP)
and you say you won't bother - well you just did = wtf??
btw - anyone can be immature in life,as to my little bolded correction
and adding immaturity to a game adds fun in it for some people,or comedy or whatever.


ignore list is ftw for some people and you used it simply because i have my own problems

It would make some of us non-whiners who want te BMP, happy. But not the other side. They refuse to believe this, turn a blind eye and continue to believe all we want is the weapon skins they got. Unbelievable isn't it? Expected though, from the GW community.

Or i can't use it, because i don't have a credit card? There's a difference.

I cba to go find the link? Why? Because i'm not interested in making a thread concerning that. But i remember there was one, in which Gaile posted saying she will look into more online store payment options. If you care, go find it.. and stop being lazy. Kthx.

I didn't post a life story. I simply stated that you being on my ignore list backs up my point that imo, you're an idiot.

Lol wut? Find the post, give the link and quotation, showing me saying "we missed the BMP for several reasons although we fail at validity even more than the guys who got it". Go, find it. Please.

Wait wait! People with the BMP, taunting those without it, being selfish in their reasons to deny us that.. only really liking the BMP for it's weapon skins.. are playing the game for fun? Ok thanks! I get it now!!

I'm not reasoning as i did with I D E L E T E D I. I'm just counter argueing, because your statements are just so flawed.

Ok so you're a person, not a child? You're still immature though. As are the majority in this thread that are against the OP because they're scared we might ya know.. get the same weapon skins as them *GASP*.

Thanks.

I posted a proper thread in SARDELAC where petitions and ideas belong.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10226904

How is that any different from the rest of us completely missing out on content? No matter what they do, a large number of people are going to be unhappy. This is pretty much a no win situation for Anet.

But when it comes down to it, you have something, you don't want others to have. I don't see why it should bother you so much that they put it up on the store in a few months for $10-20. You guys will have still had it much earlier. And bottom line, I think everyone can agree that Guild Wars needs the new content to keep it going.

And you totally missed the point of that. The CE's, like the BMP, were limited time offers let me break that down for you with our good friend Mister Freaking Dictionary.

Hmm seems to me that limited means that it is confined to a certain span of time. That means after said span of time has elapsed it is gone, kaput, no more.

Now I ask you what prevented you from meeting those requirements? No credit or debit card? I must see about a billion commercials on TV advertising pre-paid debit and credit cards. In fact they sell them at my local Walgreens. Live in Europe perhaps where they have a pin based system? Pinpas offers cards and the PlayNC store added the PaySafe option for them. No money? I hardly see how that is Arena Net's problem.That seems to be more of a problem of your employment or budgeting skills. Worried about online fraud? It's called looking for the https before a website, little lock at the bottom that indicates SSL encryption which is safe and an industry standard. My point is you, like everyone else had the same fair chance to get the BMP. You, either because you were too lazy or too inept to find a method to purchase it, did not meet those requirements. I hardly see how Arena Net should be obligated to accommodate your personal problems. If it had been an issue with a malfunction in the store or if they had not made adequate attempts to allow multiple payment options to be used then maybe I could see the point. Whether or not the BMP adds extra playability is not the issue. You could have gotten the content. You made the choice through inaction to deprive yourself of the BMP and now you have to live with that decision.

All of you need to chill out. First off, you complaining over here is NOT going to get you anywhere anyways. This is a fan site, nothing more, although Gaile Gray occasionally comes here to view some of our threads. If you actually want to try to get the BMP, go straight to the source!

I admit, its not fair that we get these extravagant skinned weapons. But I doubt ANYONE who bought the BMP knew it would have weapons this nice. Maybe some greens that would only sell for 1-5k, not much.

You were given a very good amount of time to achieve the BMP. 2 months! Plus it was released with GW:EN, which qualified you to buy it. What if you had another few months? given a year? I think you would still be complaining.. True a lot of "loyal" gamers didn't get this. But i think they had the ability to get the BMP and simply procrastinated and was sidetracked to the very end.

To the kids and non credit card holders, who i think this applies mostly to. I sympathize with you. But i remind you i am not a credit-card holder, and i am simply a "kid", 16 to be exact. I got the BMP by working for it. Besides, how did any of you get this in the first place? Either you bought it or your parents bought it. I fail to see how you couldn't just ask them again, or possibly get cash from working for them and give them the cash and let you buy the BMP via credit card. Although it definitely was hard for me, i really wanted this BMP.

I remember a thread before the deadline that talked about how to buy from the online store without a credit card, and i remember seeing someone talking about a type of "giftcard" or something that could transfer value and purchase the BMP successfully.

Even if they do put this out to buy seperately, its probably goign to be via online store, you guys still need the credit card.

My main point? Stop arguing and email anet if enough ppl complain they might be nice enough to give it to you, but don't be suprised if you never get it

decided to look round for this:P
but this seems more logical - so people who didnt go for the reward gets the missions at least but not the weapons.
the weapons are now the main "mewant" for alot of people,but for those who arent greedy and want the fun of the mission this idea is approved for me

EDIT:but....also to the non-credit card holders who are classed as a child...you can get bank cards that dont tax you in certain banks and that is how i got my BMP.

Comparing a special dance, to brand new missions, is very different. The emotes are there as something a little special for those that paid more for the game. It has little to no effect on those that don't have it, and if they gave it away to everyone, it would be very pointless.

But missions, and new weapon skills are completely different, and considering how hard they clearly worked on this new stuff, I'd find it very hard to believe they won't give it away again in another form. Just because it WAS giving away in a limited promotion, doesn't mean the same thing can't be giving away again in another way.

No need to get silly. My point is that the CE limited offer was a shitty frigging DANCE. Not a whole load of new content. Geez...

Although just 2 minutes ago you were classifying all the people without the BMP as only wanting weapon skins. *sigh*

Another who fails to look at the thread date. Good job.

No, but you can get a MASTER CARD from PAYPAL if you really really can't get one from anywhere else, and don't tell me you live somewhere where you can't get PAYPAL.

No but it sets an unfortunate precedent if they do. The bottom line is everyone ,regardless of age, or geographical location, had the same opportunity to qualify for the BMP if they wanted it so badly. They declined to do so and now that they see the new skins they cry. In fact I would wager if I go far enough back into the threads some of these same people that that are whining now were probably talking about how lame the BMP would be and that they wouldn't be buying it. Arena Net should not cater to the faults of their consumers.

it was all over the place including right here . and many more steadly after this

I don't "have something I don't want others to have." I have something I traded my box, discs, and booklets for. I'd be 100% fine with the sale of the BMP in the in-game store, if it meant I got my box. Why should I be screwed out of the box? Because I actually listened to the promotion? What kind of image would that give Areanet? "Please qualify for our promotions, but if you do, be prepared to lose physical items while everyone else will have access to the same thing a week later!"
And having it earlier is meaningless, items were non-tradable.

Actually it was four months, but I'm splitting hairs, apparently.

Preorders came with content: Weapons. And yet you don't see players asking for those again.

My point stands though that if you wanted it so badly you had the opportunity to get it while the offer was valid. You declined. Why should Arena Net have to cater to your bad decision?

not everyone...
some people dont go greed,you know that?
people are different.

As has been very evident, even before the mission pack was announced, this is not true. Many people in certain countries have had no way to qualify for the BMP.

And again, I don't see why it's such a big deal. Many people didn't want to bother getting the bonus mission pack, because they did a poor job explaining what we would be getting. Yes, you can throw out the argument "your loss", but I was unwilling to buy three worthless character slots for content that could have very likely been bad. Does that make me stupid, for not wanting to take the risk? And equally, if Anet do decide to make the content available in some other way thats YOUR LOSS. You chose to get the content then, and that way. I chose to wait and see if they'll run it again, when I know what I'm getting.

Kthnx.

Where isn't Paypal accessible? China perhaps... but I'd like some countries names, please.

Why the hell should I suffer a loss for qualifying for a promotion? Fail logic is fail.

My statement stands that i failed to realise buying GW:EN qualified me for a one-time opportunity to get brand new content. Whether i was stupid or not is irrelevant. I didn't notice there was just one way to get the BMP. So it's not like i optionally declined the offer.

But yet whilst replying to me you refused to read this:

and just crapped on with your own view that everyone wanted new weapon skins.

Paypal was not an option of payment for the BMP.

Oh really? and what countries were those might I ask? Please enlighten me.

No whether you were stupid or not is entirely relevant to the discussion at hand. What you want is for Arena Net to make up for your oversight. The key word is your. A company is under no obligation and indeed should not make up for you mistakes. It sets a precedent for corporate baby sitting that is a fast road to a bad time.

READ, for once:
SERIOUSLY, I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT COUNTRIES CAN'T ACCESS PAYPAL. ENLIGHTEN ME.

A:maybe i did - maybe i just couldn't be bothered at first to search for lyra's post searching through 40 pages because at first i thought it would be absolutely useless posts?
being lazy and idol is kinda ftw when things in RL swing your way


also - i though you said you didnt have access to the online store anyway and wont trust it to start.

Go back and read some of those topics, I know many people were unable to purchase anything from the story. But I myself am not one of them, and personally never paid much attention to those topics.

So you agree with me. You're suffering because other people would be able to enjoy your content? As has been pointed out, Gaile has made it clear that it's undecided weather this content would eventually be released in some other way. I chose to wait. You didn't. As I pointed out earlier, I'm not overly fussed if I get this content or not, but it would be nice. And I don't see why those of us who didn't get it first, should completely miss out.

Take a look at this
A non-european / american player didn't even get to access the BMP he's qualified for. Mistake on anet's part or not, i believe there would be some countries who didn't have the chance to buy it.

YES BECAUSE CLEARLY EVERY RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOER ON THIS PLANET KNEW THEY COULD GET THIS PAYPAL MASTER CARD!

No actually. Anet just wants to bang on with GW2 and forget about this game. They then turn round and decide to make some new content. And.. omigosh, they put effort into it! But it's too much to ask to make this content available to everyone for whatever reason?