BMP sell seperate petition.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHannum
I don't think you understand the definition of the word "promotion" or even understand what the promotion itself was. The closest they came to promising that the BMP would itself be limited is a line in the fine print, "The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store." However, considering the context of that particular sentence, it is reasonably clear that it's not meant to confer exclusivisity of the content, but rather that you can only obtain the free BMP on the same account you used to buy the in-game store content.
sorry but there is no *context* in that to quibble about

the first part is what will qualify during a specified period of time.

the second part says the very specific details of only accounts that qualify will get it.

no context or extra words to wiggle with.

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How to Qualify

Spend a total of $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or purchase and activate any product worth $29 USD (€26/£17) through the PlayNC online store, between Noon Pacific Time July 5, 2007 and 11:59 PM Pacific Time October 31, 2007.

You can spend the required amount all at once, or over time; your purchases will be tracked and once you meet the requirement, you will qualify to receive the Bonus Mission Pack!



The Details

The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.
only available is clear

exact account that qualifies is clear

there is a lot of wishful thinking going on here.

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
But Gaile made comments afterwards about this promotion and statings of "why would we do such a thing after doing this?" you'll just have to lookup gaile posts to find it. She pretty much put the nail on the head that this was a "one time thing get it now or never get it".
if this is so i guess it's the birth of a new hate
pve vs pvp players will get some new company with bmp vs non-bmp players

Arthas90

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Poland

BB

W/R

/Signed

veterans who have all chapters before this promotion come are disapointed!

sky99

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

/signed. ....................

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

i got my BMP fair and square. /in retrospect, its seems like i bought 4 fun missions and got gwen as bonus.../

still /signed no need to be jackass about this goin on how people should have gotten it in some ill concieved promotiom.

i got it, why should they NOT get it. /edit, duh/

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthas90
/Signed

veterans who have all chapters before this promotion come are disapointed!
What? The promotion came out before you could buy Gwen. Veterans had the option of buying GWEN in the online store to qualify.

You could have just bought 3 character slots anyway.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Ive been thinking more and more that the MISSIONS should be available to ALL players.

But access to the weapons should only be to the ones who purchased in time in the promotional period.

This way....the lore, the content, the missions, the fun stuff, the AWESOME CINEMAS is available for all players.

The weapons would then equate into something like the Pre-order weapons. Exclusive to some, but it doesn't take away from the experience of the quests.

But no....dont sell it Anet. Please dont charge for this.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by jezz
its a real shame we cant get some response from gaile on this..
because this discussion is going no where..
maybe a definitive answer either way would be nice..then we can all move on and enjoy the game.
The silence from Gaile may have different meanings:

A). The BMP gave them the extra money they expected.
People spent money to buy something needed or unneeded, they got it, gg.
In this case they have no interest to make it available again, except maybe in a period in which they will have some shortage of cash to pay salaries or bills, will remember of the BMP and will try to use it to earn something.

B). The BMP wasn't as successful as they expected, the increase in the online store purchases wasn't enough.
In this case, they know they created a monster, split the playerbase, disappointed a large part of long time customers, and all for little or unsufficient financial result.
And now they're thinking what's the best move to recover the situation.


Personally, I tend to believe that A). is the most likely option.
Their belly is full, they have no interest in doing anything else.


That's the biggest problem of the one-time payment games.
Once you paid, they got your money, and you have no system to punish the vendor.
In a pay-to-play game, if you're upset, you simply stop paying, they don't get your money and fire starts to burn under their asses.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
But Gaile made comments afterwards about this promotion and statings of "why would we do such a thing after doing this?" you'll just have to lookup gaile posts to find it. She pretty much put the nail on the head that this was a "one time thing get it now or never get it".
Link? I have heard nothing of this.

Infact, just a few days ago, she stated it was unsure if it'll be available by other means. "No fixed decisions have been made yet". But I believe she said previously that she thinks it should be available to everyone, eventually.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

This should never be sold in the in-game store. Why? It makes zero sense. If you couldn't qualify for the BMP during the four months they shoved the advertisement in our face, how are you magically going to be able to get access to the in-game store now?

Sure, I can almost sympathize with people who couldn't get a hold of a debit card (although, there was many ways around this, and if you couldn't find one, you weren't trying hard enough), but if someone couldn't get a debit card in four months, how the hell is selling the BMP in the in-game store going to help those people? Hmm? Really, I'd love to hear an explanation on this one.

So, now that we've gotten the people who couldn't access the payment methods out of the way, all we are left with is whiners who decided to "save money" instead of buy EotN in the in-game store, or people who just didn't buy EotN or character slots altogether. Well, all I can say to you is: Enjoy saving money, I'll enjoy playing the BMP.

Chik N Nuggets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

calgary, alberta, canada

The Crimson Knighthood [CRIM]

W/

WTF YOU GUYS ARE ....a-holes...


i really want this BMP... but i had no idea an online store existed til about a month ago.. and even then i ont have a credit card....



/signed
/signed
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Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
Link? I have heard nothing of this.

Infact, just a few days ago, she stated it was unsure if it'll be available by other means. "No fixed decisions have been made yet". But I believe she said previously that she thinks it should be available to everyone, eventually.
you are correct there in a dev post i think.

however remember that there is a world of difference between Gaile expressing a personal opinion which this was and passing on an official statement.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chik N Nuggets
WTF YOU GUYS ARE ....a-holes...


i really want this BMP... but i had no idea an online store existed til about a month ago.. and even then i ont have a credit card....



/signed
/signed
/signed
/signed
/signed
/signed
Let me guess, you logged into your characters with your eyes closed? Because the advertisement was screaming at you for four months on the character selection screen. If you had no idea about it, then its your own fault.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Wow, I never realized a this kind of topic could spawn such hate-mongering. Really, some people need to grow up.

A-Net knows people are willing to buy the BMP at the online store, so the only question remains is that will they act up on it. Because one thing's for sure, they won't, can't - nor is it even sensible - to offer the BMP as a free token for all when there are people who, in a sense, paid for it. But again, releasing it as purchaseable content in the store seems sensible to me.

SpaceGh057

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGh057
I think I might be able to summarize the feeling of anyone who signed that didn't originally buy this.

"I didn't think it was cool at first, so I didn't want to waste my time buying something online. But now it's so awesome that I feel robbed because I turned down a limited offer. MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO US!"

/notsigned
I'm going to have to quote myself, and add a bit more of an argument, since no one pays attention here.

This promotion was timed with the release of GW:EN. Both were announced in the online store at the same, prior to release. Many players chose to ignore it, and now complain that they were robbed, because instead of ordering via the online store, they went to a real store. Keep in mind that both of these items were announced at the same time, so, technically speaking, you knew the whole time about the promotion if you knew about GW:EN, or ever logged on Guild Wars.

I'm sorry, I'm sticking with /notsigned, and see my above ideas of the feelings of those who didn't get the BMP.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
A-Net knows people are willing to buy the BMP at the online store, so the only question remains is that will they act up on it.
Why didn't the "people willing to buy the BMP," just buy EotN there in the first place, if they are so willing and able to use the in-game store?
The fact is, there is no reasonable explanation past, "I wanted the box." But when you decided to purchase EotN in a retail store, you knew full well that you were giving up the easiest way to access the BMP. Now that these players have seen the awesome content, they want to filp flop. Too late, sorry.

Shadow Kurd

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

P/

STOP TROLLING ALL AND GET SERIOUS!

/signed

Toriyaki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Phoenix Connection

Me/

Anyone thought about the people who haven't gotten the game before it was released? I got this game only a month ago and I think you had to qualify for it at the end of October...
Just because you already qualified, doesn't mean you have to be selfish and keep acting like it's exclusive to you long-time players...

Anyways, I don't really care if they release it in the in-game store or not. Most of the posts in this thread are just kind of rude...

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

for what its worth - discussion at wiki
http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/U..._the_future.3F

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Why didn't the "people willing to buy the BMP," just buy EotN there in the first place, if they are so willing and able to use the in-game store?
Well, all I can do is speak for myself - I didn't buy it because a) I didn't know what the contents were and b) I don't like purchasing full games online. It's old-fashioned, but I like to have the boxed set and whatever comes with it. I don't fully like the idea that you pay for something and get only virtual goods in exchange. And c), I didn't exactly feel like buying 3 excess character slots or something either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
But when you decided to purchase EotN in a retail store, you knew full well that you were giving up the easiest way to access the BMP.
Well, I can admit this is the case. But I wouldn't be as quick as you to judge that the opportunity is lost forever, since I feel it's a good PR move to sell BMP - and possibly other GW1 content updates too in the future - in the in-game store. But really, if they won't, it's not the end of the world for me. It's just interesting to see how they play this.

SpaceGh057

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
Well, all I can do is speak for myself - I didn't buy it because a) I didn't know what the contents were and b) I don't like purchasing full games online. It's old-fashioned, but I like to have the boxed set and whatever comes with it. I don't fully like the idea that you pay for something and get only virtual goods in exchange. And c), I didn't exactly feel like buying 3 excess character slots or something either.
"I only want to buy something that I know is cool, but now that the promotion is over. I know it's cool... and I want it... I feel robbed."

This may not be the case for you specifically, but I feel like this is the general outlook of those who are /signing.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
STOP TROLLING ALL AND GET SERIOUS!

/signed
Clever, troll-bait argument.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toriyaki
Anyone thought about the people who haven't gotten the game before it was released? I got this game only a month ago and I think you had to qualify for it at the end of October...
Just because you already qualified, doesn't mean you have to be selfish and keep acting like it's exclusive to you long-time players...
Long time? Two months is hardly a longtime commitment. I don't go to Gamestop two weeks after they have a sale on a console and complain that I couldn't buy it because I wasn't a longtime customer of Gamestop. I don't go to a Grocery store 2 days after they have a sale on bananas and scream at the manager for the discount because I hadn't shopped there before. Why should this be any different?

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
Well, all I can do is speak for myself - I didn't buy it because a) I didn't know what the contents were and b) I don't like purchasing full games online. It's old-fashioned, but I like to have the boxed set and whatever comes with it.
I didn't know what the contents were going to be either, but I took the risk. You didn't, but you deserve the same reward? I like having a box too, but if Areanet did start selling the BMP, whether it be in the in-game store or at retail stores, they will only end up hurting their original in-game store customers. Selling it separately would only screw over people who legitimately qualified for it. Sound like something you'd want your company to do?

Would I have bought the game (EotN) from a retail store if I had known they were going to sell the BMP at a later date in the in-game store? You bet your ass I would, regardless of cost. But the promotion was specifically worded saying that purchasing it from the in-game store was the only way to get it.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
Well, all I can do is speak for myself - I didn't buy it because a) I didn't know what the contents were and b) I don't like purchasing full games online. It's old-fashioned, but I like to have the boxed set and whatever comes with it. I don't fully like the idea that you pay for something and get only virtual goods in exchange. And c), I didn't exactly feel like buying 3 excess character slots or something either.
a) It was going to be 4 missions with unique rewards. They SAID THAT.

b) Welcome to the future of gaming. Digital Distribution. Wii's Virtual Console. Xbox360's Live Arcade. Sony's Playstation Store. Steam. Cut out the middleman. Don't feed *mart.

c) A lot of people shared that sentiment.


You may or may not regret not getting it, but its all about the choices you made.

Toriyaki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Phoenix Connection

Me/

Quote:
Long time? Two months is hardly a longtime commitment. I don't go to Gamestop two weeks after they have a sale on a console and complain that I couldn't buy it because I wasn't a longtime customer of Gamestop. I don't go to a Grocery store 2 days after they have a sale on bananas and scream at the manager for the discount because I hadn't shopped there before. Why should this be any different?
Because bananas aren't new? And they always repeat these sales ^^
No need to get worked up.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGh057
"I only want to buy something that I know is cool, but now that the promotion is over. I know it's cool... and I want it... I feel robbed."

This may not be the case for you specifically, but I feel like this is the general outlook of those who are /signing.
They were pretty vague about what we were getting. And considering the recent quality of the products recently, would it have been surprising if all we got were three basic missions, and a couple of reskinned weapons as a reward?

I got GW:EN far cheaper from the place I bought it from, and was unwilling to buy extra character slots just to fulfill a promotion, which could well have ended up being garbage. Is it so offensive to you that other people still want to enjoy it? How will it effect you in anyway if the rest of us eventually get a way to enjoy the same content?

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGh057
"I only want to buy something that I know is cool, but now that the promotion is over. I know it's cool... and I want it... I feel robbed."

This may not be the case for you specifically, but I feel like this is the general outlook of those who are /signing.
I usually do want to know what I'm buying before I buy it, yes.

But on the other hand, I'm waving to A-Net here, saying Hey, I've got money and I want to buy your product, should you offer it for me to purchase. Should they not take it?

Ember010

Ember010

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/

As far as I can see the majority of the /notsigned players are people who have acquired the BMP. Good for you, I'm sure you feel great having supported your local online game shop.

I am a MASSIVE Guild wars fan, If there had been an EotN collectors edition I would most definately have bought it. But there isn't. And seeing as the BMP was announced, what, a day? maybe 1/2 a day? After EotN went live, I would NOT have went down to my local Gaming store and bought Eotn. Even though the reason I did buy it was because I wanted the extras, I wanted the poster, and I wanted to read the book. Want is the word. And I do want the BMP.

My brother, who is by no means as in to guild wars as I am, told me he was going to be lazy and buy EotN in the online store, he did. Later on the BMP was announced, he emailed Anet yesterday I think asking if he qualified, he does.

You don't need your game, you want your game. And ANet provides, so as someone who wants access to the BMP, I'm gonna sign. Make it accessable by some other means, or by purchase. It's fine for everyone who has bought theres and would like it to stay exclusively for them, it's cool to have something that everyone else wants isnt it? Of course you want to keep it that way.

/signed

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGh057
"I only want to buy something that I know is cool, but now that the promotion is over. I know it's cool... and I want it... I feel robbed."

This may not be the case for you specifically, but I feel like this is the general outlook of those who are /signing.
Is it that strange that someone decides to buy = spend real money only when he's convinced that what he's buying is worth it? And wants to check before?

Or do you buy everything, regardless if it's cool, average or crap, because you don't give any value to your money?

Really, some sentences make me think if people still have common sense.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
I didn't know what the contents were going to be either, but I took the risk. You didn't, but you deserve the same reward?
I'm not talking about giving it for free here, you know. If it were up for purchase and I'd bought it, hadn't we both paid the same price for the BMP and deserved it? Only difference is you "taking the risk", but isn't being a better customer an intangible benefit for the exact same money spent?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
You may or may not regret not getting it, but its all about the choices you made.
Again, I never denied this. I just don't see what people with BMP now would lose should it be sold in the store. Is it a case of "I have X, therefore others may not have it" ?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ember010
As far as I can see the majority of the /notsigned players are people who have bought the BMP. Good for you, I'm sure you feel great having supported your local online game shop.
for the last time - the BMP was free,and it was a promotion for the online store,when will people learn this and that life isnt a 1 dimensional hole of 100% success?!

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ember010
I am a MASSIVE Guild wars fan, If there had been an EotN collectors edition I would most definately have bought it. But there isn't. And seeing as the BMP was announced, what, a day? maybe 1/2 a day? After EotN went live, I would NOT have went down to my local Gaming store and bought Eotn.
Correction: It was announced at least 2 months before EotN went live.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

At the end of the day.. @ people with the BMP: how does us being able to buy it negatively affect you?

Let's say it's at $30.

You paid the same price.
You got it earlier.
You had no **SPOILERS**.
You got GW:EN or 3 character slots with it (because that made the BMP free), which we wouldn't.

The only reason you don't want us to have it is the "ul you missed the deadline I HAVE IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH". So yeah.

Get a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing good reason for us not to deserve to buy it seperately, or simply stfu and enjoy the BMP you already have that we are in no way spoiling.

I probably won't buy GW2 simply for this reason: the community is a pile of shit in general.

Thanks and bye.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
I'm not talking about giving it for free here, you know. If it were up for purchase and I'd bought it, hadn't we both paid the same price for the BMP and deserved it? Only difference is you "taking the risk", but isn't being a better customer an intangible benefit for the exact same money spent?
If Areanet sends me a Box and discs, free of charge for buying EotN from the in-game store because I only bought it from the in-game store under the premise that doing so would be the only way to access the BMP, then I would /sign this thread. But they won't, because it costs money. I took the risk by giving up a box, discs, and instructions. Technically, I spent more money than you on the same product.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
At the end of the day.. @ people with the BMP: how does us being able to buy it negatively affect you?
It negatively affects us in two ways:
1. We miss out on the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing EotN box, how could you miss this argument?
2. We missed out on the sales retail stores had almost a week after EotN release.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
You got GW:EN or 3 character slots with it (because that made the BMP free)
No, we didn't get it free. I'll try to explain it from another thread. By having players buy EotN from the in-game store, Areanet saves on distribution costs (which include shipping, packaging, CDs) and the retail stores cut. This ends up being a rather decent chunk of change they "earned" by having players use the in-game store. Instead of giving the players the difference in a form of a discount (which is impossible, due to business negotiations), they kept it, as extra profit.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Hypothetically speaking.

If the BMP sucked, would this thread exist?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
Is it so offensive to you that other people still want to enjoy it? How will it effect you in anyway if the rest of us eventually get a way to enjoy the same content?
how about this for the people that actually want to play the content and not just the obsessed with the weapons?

after say a month or 2 they simoly give it to everybody with the weapons locked out?

you get all the fun content but no weapons

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Well, it's not like EoTN boxed set was anything to write home about...

Like I said, it's up in the air at the moment. I think this is an interesting discussion and a major defining factor considering future strategies with the online store and its function. We will see.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
If BMP sucked, would this thread exist?
I think you know the answer already.

explodemyheart

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Hypothetically speaking.

If the BMP sucked, would this thread exist?
The answer for most of these people would probably be "yes" for the sake of their argument... but in reality, really no.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Let's say it's at $30.

You paid the same price.
Yes,we also did it within the promotion limit.
infact why didnt you go for the BMP and more char slots?
wouldn't that seem more efficient?
Quote:
You got it earlier.
nice - so the huge ammount of time people had and NOW they want it off the online store? for less stuff and not for free? this was to promote people to use the online store.
2 words:weapon skins,and thats why people want it.
Quote:
You got GW:EN or 3 character slots with it (because that made the BMP free), which we wouldn't.
same reason as above.

Quote:
The only reason you don't want us to have it is the "ul you missed the deadline I HAVE IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH". So yeah.
/sigh
the deadline was enough time to get it,same reason as the above reason of that

Quote:
Get a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing good reason for us not to deserve to buy it seperately, or simply stfu and enjoy the BMP you already have that we are in no way spoiling.
reasons have been verified already and gone by countless times

Quote:
I probably won't buy GW2 simply for this reason: the community is a pile of shit in general.
we also dont get the boxing.


Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
If Areanet sends me a Box and discs, free of charge for buying EotN from the in-game store because I only bought it their under the premise that doing so would be the only way to access the BMP, then I would /sign this thread. But they won't, because it costs money. I took the risk by giving up a box, discs, and instructions. Technically, I spent more money than you on the same product.
/agreed

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
how about this for the people that actually want to play the content and not just the obsessed with the weapons?

after say a month or 2 they simoly give it to everybody with the weapons locked out?

you get all the fun content but no weapons
Ya...

is this thread about the missions

or

the shiny weapons

what is it?

Anybody who signed this, would you take it for free if it had no weapons?